do y'all have any firstprince/rwrb fic pet peeves? something (even small) that makes you nope out of a fic immediately? i don't mean bad writing/mistakes but an actual plot point/headcanon made canon that you cannot stand? please tell me i'm nosy
PS. this is not a post made to shit on anybody's fics, i'm just curious so don't be mean
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henry found and ate two (2) dead things today
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Margaret of Anjou’s visit to Coventry [in 1456], which was part of her dower and that of her son, Edward of Lancaster, was much more elaborate. It essentially reasserted Lancastrian power. The presence of Henry and the infant Edward was recognised in the pageantry. The ceremonial route between the Bablake gate and the commercial centre was short, skirting the area controlled by the cathedral priory, but it made up for its brevity with no fewer than fourteen pageants. Since Coventry had an established cycle of mystery plays, there were presumably enough local resources and experience to mount an impressive display; but one John Wetherby was summoned from Leicester to compose verses and stage the scenes. As at Margaret’s coronation the iconography was elaborate, though it built upon earlier developments.
Starting at Bablake gate, next to the Trinity Guild church of St. Michael, Bablake, the party was welcomed with a Tree of Jesse, set up on the gate itself, with the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah explaining the symbolism. Outside St. Michael’s church the party was greeted by Edward the Confessor and St. John the Evangelist; and proceeding to Smithford Street, they found on the conduit the four Cardinal Virtues—Righteousness (Justice?), Prudence, Temperance, and Fortitude. In Cross Cheaping wine flowed freely, as in London, and angels stood on the cross, censing Margaret as she passed. Beyond the cross was pitched a series of pageants, each displaying one of the Nine Worthies, who offered to serve Margaret. Finally, the queen was shown a pageant of her patron saint, Margaret, slaying the dragon [which 'turned out to be strictly an intercessor on the queen's behalf', as Helen Maurer points out].
The meanings here are complex and have been variously interpreted. An initial reading of the programme found a message of messianic kingship: the Jesse tree equating royal genealogy with that of Christ had been used at the welcome for Henry VI on his return from Paris in 1432. A more recent, feminist view is that the symbolism is essentially Marian, and to be associated with Margaret both as queen and mother of the heir rather than Henry himself. The theme is shared sovereignty, with Margaret equal to her husband and son. Ideal kingship was symbolised by the presence of Edward the Confessor, but Margaret was the person to whom the speeches were specifically addressed and she, not Henry, was seen as the saviour of the house of Lancaster. This reading tips the balance too far the other way: the tableau of Edward the Confessor and St. John was a direct reference to the legend of the Ring and the Pilgrim, one of Henry III’s favourite stories, which was illustrated in Westminster Abbey, several of his houses, and in manuscript. It symbolised royal largesse, and its message at Coventry would certainly have encompassed the reigning king. Again, the presence of allegorical figures, first used for Henry, seems to acknowledge his presence. Yet, while the message of the Coventry pageants was directed at contemporary events it emphasised Margaret’s motherhood and duties as queen; and it was expressed as a traditional spiritual journey from the Old Testament, via the incarnation represented by the cross, to the final triumph over evil, with the help of the Virgin, allegory, and the Worthies. The only true thematic innovation was the commentary by the prophets.
[...] The messages of the pageants firmly reminded the royal women of their place as mothers and mediators, honoured but subordinate. Yet, if passive, these young women were not without significance. It is clear from the pageantry of 1392 and 1426 in London and 1456 in Coventry that when a crisis needed to be resolved, the queen (or regent’s wife) was accorded extra recognition. Her duty as mediator—or the good aspect of a misdirected man—suddenly became more than a pious wish. At Coventry, Margaret of Anjou was even presented as the rock upon which the monarchy rested. [However,] a crisis had to be sensed in order to provoke such emphasis [...]."
-Nicola Coldstream, "Roles of Women in Late Medieval Civic Pageantry," "Reassessing the Roles of Women as 'Makers' of Medieval Art and Culture"
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henry 🤝 zack
hanging out with an eccentric inventor that exclusively wears coveralls
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“Warwick launched his final bid at kingmaking, this time in alliance with Margaret of Anjou to restore Henry VI. He and Clarence landed in Devon while the King was in Yorkshire. Elizabeth (Woodville)’s initial reaction was to prepare for a siege in the Tower of London where she had already retired in expectation of the imminent birth of another child. But on 1 October news reached the capital that the King was preparing to set sail from Bishop’s Lynn, abandoning his kingdom. With no hope of imminent rescue, Elizabeth moved swiftly into the Sanctuary of Westminster Abbey with her mother and her daughters. She sent Abbot Thomas Millyng to advise the Mayor and Aldermen that she was surrendering the Tower, and consequently Henry VI, into their custody.
- J.L Laynesmith, “Elizabeth Woodville: The Knight’s Widow” in “Later Plantagenet and Wars of the Roses Consorts” / “The Last Medieval Queens, English Queenship 1445-1503″
"Elizabeth (Woodville) at first fortified the Tower of London against the approaching Lancastrians, but then decided instead to hand over custody of the Tower to the mayor and aldermen of London while she went into sanctuary at Westminster Abbey. It was a move which not only protected her daughters, who were with her, but also saved London from attack, which perhaps explains some of the praise she later received. The author of 'The Historic of the Arrival of Edward IV, who claimed to have witnessed much of what he recorded, stressed
the right great trowble, sorow, and hevines, whiche [the queen] sustayned with all manar pacience that belonged to eny creature, and as constantly as hathe bene sene at any tyme any of so highe estate to endure; in the whiche season natheles she had browght into this worldc, to the Kyngs grcatystc joy, a fayrc son.
...When Edward (IV) arrived, there was a scene of family bliss, in which the queen's vulnerability and domesticity could be contrasted with his heroism. The king was thus presented in an unusually human guise, which might appeal to readers familiar with such partings themselves throughout the civil wars:
The king comfortid the quene, and other ladyes ckc; His swete babis ful tendurly he did kys; The yonge prynce he behelde, and in his armys did bere. Thus his bale turnyd hym to blis.
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If only Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon counted in Catholic eyes, does this mean Mary wouldn't theoretically consider any of his other wives 'real' stepmothers, as such? If she did, how would she rationalise defying the Pope's will, whilst upholding the papal authority to sanction the marriage of her parents?
She probably never did, based on the wording of that Act in question. Her attitude towards papal authority during her own reign was...contradictory in other ways, however.
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Currently turning over an idea for another RBEI!Bob fic in my head
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One of the strangest critiques I see over The Dark Descent is that it made everyone straight and...I don't have the original novel for comparison, but I'm not certain that ANYONE in that book (except for MAYBE Judge Frankenstein) was straight
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Keeping this one image near and dear to my heart
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DSAF characters as Phones
including like i think all the human characters except the health inspector, but excluding all the phoneheads
I kept most of them non-era specific!
Jack - Nokia 3310
Look. Nokia 3310 is indestructible, and so is Jack with the way he comes back. Y'get it.
Dave - SPECIFICALLY a phone receiver
this is specifically bc of navy-leader's phone art. actually i think he made jack a nokia too??? im not sure but like making dave a fucking phone receiver and the cable his neck. my god. you don't want to know how much it brainrotted me
Henry - Antique wall telephone
partially picked bc of splatoon but also i think it really fits Henry. Also like i guess he deserves a cool-lookin phone (he doesn't but it still fits)
Dee - Princess telephone
Admittingly, I didn't have any other phones I can think of that could fit her vibes except garfield phone. cat lady moments. Other than that, the princess telephone was another retro telephone brand that i dont really see a lot. can't find a nice striped one though
Matt - Flip Phone (no specific model)
No specific reasoning to this tbh i jsut like matt and thought i'd give him flip phone. But also wouldn't you want to close his face on him? stop that man from talking? Now you can!
Jimbo - Brick Cell Phone
I'm not caught up on ANY jimbo lore tbh but i think brick cell phones fit his vibe. originally i was gonna give him the ghostbuster cell phone bc like yknow. shadow jimbo (still don't know shit about him)
Ronaldo - Vintage Pizza Inn Landline Telephone Novelty Pizza Man Phone
also not entirely caught on his lore but like he's a funny pizza dude who may or may not cook with human flesh! he derves a funny pizza dude phone!
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i will simply by virtue of who i am read aromanticism into things, but mash really does make it astonishingly easy for me
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@trapton asked: ❝ you can't help yourself, can you? Hah wrong blog again but will to henry ❞ ( "you can't. . ." prompts )
The words were almost swallowed by another hungry kiss. Almost, if Will hadn't managed to strike Henry just right. Eyes searched, then averted, although he never left the space. His grip at Will's waist remained. It was too early for this, not even time to open for the day. Really, they were barely in the door before Henry had been stifling the urge. And, for all he knew, William had noticed right then. It wouldn't have surprised him to be read like a magazine by his business partner.
"No different than you." His voice was steady, if breathless, gaze returned even as it dipped beneath Will's own. Nose, mouth, jaw, the column of his throat. It was the easy response—throw it back at him. Don't admit that he had been thinking of Will since closing the day prior, driving himself crazy with visions behind his eyelids. Definitely don't admit there were nights he was near sleepless with it. Pretend he doesn't already have some inkling of it to save himself the embarrassment.
"If I'm wrong, you can go," said even as his hand reached up and slid into his hair. Tangled. Twisted. Pulled. Dragged him back down into another messy, open-mouthed kiss. As humiliating as Henry's own neediness might be, there was some comfort in knowing it wasn't one-sided.
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episode review i am never going to recover from this
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#even though every source you can find on Henry V basically ends with#'say what you want about the guy but he REALLY loved his siblings'
not me just reading Michael Hicks tearing Henry IV and V a new one for not marrying off John and Humphrey earlier and claiming it led to the failure of the Lancastrian dynasty. thisisfine.gif
...but Hal wasn't married either? And they probably didn't get married for the same reason (busy with the war and on shaky ground when it came to eligibility for marriage)? Like I absolutely see the criticism when it comes to Henry IV because really they shouldn't have even gotten to Hal's reign unmarried, but... there were reasons for it. They all basically married the only logical options they had, because as far as I'm aware no one else was really lining up to ally themselves with them. Plus we don't have a good idea for when Humphrey's children were born, because of the whole mess with Antigone's birth date not making sense for when she had her first child, so that could also have been a factor.
The lack of legitimate heirs absolutely did screw them over, because yeah, would have been really helpful to have someone between Henry and Richard of York when the time came. But of course, considering Humphrey's grandson was a Yorkist we don't necessarily know if it would have turned out in the Lancaster's favor or if we'd just have had more people making claims.
Seriously, of all criticisms about Hal, he went for that one?
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mild spoilers in tags but i'm just mad i don't write any actual security bre.ach muses now and i think i need to change that fuck
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