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#i dont even have a good justification for this these were just spare thoughts left over from the other onion headline post
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ruffiorocks · 5 years
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Lena Luthor is justified keeping some Harun El and here is why! (Long post, but important)
Sooo i’ve been thinking about how Lena kept some Harun El, and if/when Supergirl finds out she kept some she will no doubt be pissed and probably jump down the ‘Lena you are bad’ route once more. Like she is want to do when the whole world doesn't inform her when they are intending to sneeze!
So the gang need some Harun El (black kryptonite) to fight and defeat Reign. Winn and Lena discover some on a meteor and Kara and Mon El travel to retrieve it. 
They discover that the meteor is actual the remains of Argo City and Kara discovers her mother is still alive. 
Alura informs Kara that Argo City is being powered by what little Harun El they have,it protects them and sustains life there all thanks to Kara’s father. 
Alura gets Kara an audience with the High Council so she can ask them to give her some Harun El to help with the Reign issue. This is Kara’s speech, pay attention because the wording will be important! 
“There are people on Earth who work every day to solve the mistakes of Krypton's past. People who are trying to make Earth fairer. Or just better. These people dedicate their lives to this work, and some have even given their lives to it. This planet, these... these people, they took me in. An alien immigrant from a world they knew nothing about. A world whose legacy threatened their way of life, and their safety, again and again and again. And now they deserve it in kind, because their very existence is threatened by this Worldkiller of Kryptonian making. My mother tells me Argo City has changed, that it has learned from the mistakes of Krypton's past. So I beg you. Give us the gift of Harun-El. We don't need very much. And this bit of charity, it will save Earth.’
So, Kara is giving a whole speech on why she needs the Harun El, she even lists why its important. But im going to assume the ‘people’ she is referring to include herself and the DEO. BUT do you know who else these statements refer to? Even if that wasn't what Kara meant? LENA! 
‘People who are trying to make Earth fairer or just better’ - Lena spends her life doing this! Lena will later talk about leveling the playing field, protecting people etc.Curing cancer and other things. Remember when she made that portal with Rhea? All she saw was a way to help people, to get emergency food and medicine to third world countries etc. 
‘A world whose legacy threatened their way of life, and their safety, again and again and again. And now they deserve it in kind, because their very existence is threatened by this Worldkiller of Kryptonian making’ - Kara is acknowledging here that Kryptonians have attacked several times, but also other aliens have to. Here Kara is actually justifying why Lena will later want to give people Superpowers, why she most likely is going to take the government contract. Kara is at Argo city begging for help because SHE alone can’t defend the planet from Reign. She is in need of help to do it. This is just proof that Kara and the rest of the DEO/Legion simply arent enough to defend Earth. A fact that Lena probably sees to, since she is called in enough to come and help when the DEO are dumb founded and lost! 
‘Give us the gift of Harun-El. We don't need very much. And this bit of charity, it will save Earth.’ - Here Kara is talking about the Reign issue obviously, BUT these words also fit why Lena decided to keep some. To first off cure cancer and other ailments, but then to help humans stand up to aliens. The latter part was an accident Lena didn't originally plan, it was something she discovered. 
Now, this is the response Kara gets at first, but then you know she gets some:
Jul-Us : ‘Well said, Kara Zor-El. But my concern is for those of us you left behind. I'm afraid we cannot spare the Harun-El’.
I find this statement to be very noteworthy! ‘we cannot spare the Harun El’ so that means (as we all know anyway) that Argo only has a small amount. That means that the Kryptonians haven't discovered a way to recreate it.  
BUT! Do you know who does figure out how to make artificial Harun El? LENA! Kara asks her to make more so her mother can take it back to Argo City and continue to sustain the population there. Lena just did something that the enlightened and decades ahead of Earth science Kryptonians were unable to do. 
Im reminded of something Mon El said when he first came into the show and was arguing with Kara. 
‘High and mighty Krypton, enlightened Krypton’ - Well, not so enlightened anymore huh? Lena Luthor is canonically smarter that what is left of the Kryptonian race put together!! 
So, they defeat Reign! (yay!) Then as Winn is saying his farewells Lena comes over and gives the case of Harun El to Alura and the recipe to make more, who respond with this. Now this is important! 
‘With this Harun El Argo will survive, though i hate to depend on it. So many things that we dont know about it, its uses, its powers its dangers, im so glad none of it will be left on Earth’. 
Right, now Lena looks visibly awkward at this and we know why. But this speech of Alura’s is really important in the sense that is not justifiable. Its really only there to make the audience see that Lena isnt supposed to have any. Why is this a dumb statement? Im glad you asked! 
. Yay Argo will survive now! But apparently Earth that has soooo many problems including environmental, diseases , food shortages, climate change, animal and plant extinction, lack of clean water. Anything you can think of, no, Earth has no business having this element that could potentially fix these issues over time, with study. It may even have to adapt to the aliens that now inhabit it but that goes over Alura’s head. 
. So many things that they dont know about it. Well no YOU dont, because you weren't even smart enough as a surviving race of people to even recreate the stuff! 
. Just because something is unknown and potentially dangerous doesn't mean it shouldn't be studied. We wouldn't have SCIENCE otherwise. This from a woman whose husband was one of Kryptons greatest scientists and is honored on Argo City. 
. ‘im so glad none of it will be left on Earth’ why? Where is your justification for this statement? Lena just did something NONE of your people could do and now you will all survive or years to come. But apparently Earth, with all its issues doesn't deserve the same treatment. Lena doesn't deserve to use the thing she just figured out how to make and knows could possibly cure cancer etc. THIS IS DUMB and SELFISH! Alura is so glad that Earth will be prevented from having something that could possible save their planet, but its OK for hers to be saved. 
. Kara by the way is just nodding her head and agreeing. She gave an entire speech back on Argo about the dangers Earth faces. But here, now that her main issue is gone, apparently the rest of Earths issues are irrelevant? Or is it  because anything a Kryptonian says has to be taken as law just because? Kara i might add was going to be a scientist to! But shes seems to have forgotten that little detail of her life? 
So to sum up. Kara gave a magnificent speech justifying why Earth needed Harun El, while unknowingly backing up everything that Lena is doing to justify having Harun El. Something that i am sure Kara (or rather the writers) will conveniently forget ever happened if and when Kara finds out what Lena is doing. Lets face it, she probably will because James doesn't approve of Lena’s choices, he’s no longer dating her and he’s so far up Kara and Clarks’s arses he probably wont be able to resist telling Kara. 
Lena, just saved the lives of an entire city of Kryptonians. I mean literary the only surviving ones beside Kara and Clark. Lena is just single handedly ensured the survival of Kara's race. She even gave them the recipe, they can now mass produce it and study it etc. Something that Alura and Kara dont think humans have the right to do?
Lena figured out how to make artificial Haren El in just a few days and while on the clock and while facing a World Killer intent on ripping out her spleen! Something that an entire race of so called superior Kryptonains full of scientists were unable to do in a few decades! 
Lena THE SCIENTIST kept some of the Harun El, because duh! She made it, she’s seen what it can do, she a bloody scientific Scientists dont see things that could possibly cure the worlds issues and be like ‘meh’. That does not a good scientist make! 
Lena’s intent was to cure cancer etc. She discovered she could basically give humans super powers. Now in this dangerous time in national city that is not unjustified. Lena believe it or not, if she takes the government contract will be the one working inside of the law, while Kara a vigilante that was told to stand down will be working outside of it! Interesting! 
Sorry that  was so long, but it was important not to leave things out. Thoughts? 
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“One hour to go until I find out if people are actually keeping me, or if they're all just being assholes and wanting to blindside me.” - jev
HOH: Brianna NOMINEES: Jev & Kiki POV: Nathan FINAL NOMINEES: Jev & Kiki EVICTED: Kiki (4-0)
JEV
I feel this could be the end for me this week, considering I named Brianna as renom last week and she has nominated me previously it's not looking good for me. However, last week after naming her renom, I did send her screenshots from Nathan of him throwing her and Aria under the bus to me just incase she stayed, so I purposefully threw him under the bus for this exact reason and I'm just hoping the move will pay off and there's even a slight chance she'll nominate him and keep me off the block. I'm also hoping she'll recognise that I didn't consider her as one of my initial noms and only named her as replacement because I was put into a shitty predicament last week by Nathan and his veto win, but who knows. I'm extremely proud of the game I've played but it'd suck to leave at F7 after getting this far.
BRIANNA
https://youtu.be/z8bOEMq9gh8
ARIA
So....its been a bit huh,...sorry about that yall pls just take this anaylsis of everyone left k thanks <3
NATHAN
Looking at the whole of his game this man has been targeted since prejury yet his social connections and physical prowess has kept him safe this long- typically this would lend itself to a very strong underdog story but at the same time his attitude this game has been very rocky as he's threatened to quit or just give up multiple times before which may decrease the amount of respect the jury has for him. At this moment in time he can be categorized as a big player due to his numerous fights which could gain jury respect because it does show that he wants to play but im unsure if its enough. In terms of social connections he presents himself as having limited connections with others as he doesnt talk with kiki or jev but has a mutual understanding between him and joshua as they are both big threats/targets leading them to want to keep each other safe. This does bring up complications when trying to eliminate joshua from this game but thats for another analysis. He's constantly threatened the status quo of the house and if it wasn't for his attitude (and maybe the lack of connections to people like kiki and jev) he could be a shoe-in to win. It should also be considered that he has constant correspondence with emma and somewhat of a connections with bri. It should also be highlighted that hes very good at mending bridges considering hes working with someone he previously attempted to nominate (brianna) and had a fight with (joshua) Honestly he's playing a great game and the bitterness visible from kiki/jev does not reflect the jury- its more likely that he can beat me at the end. 
Leaving: f3/4/
Threat: Big/Physical
Winning Chance: 4/5
KIKI
So most players still left in the game perceive kiki to just be coasting along and honestly their win chances are minimal. I think their social game has been slacking as well as they're typically very hesitant to be honest with their game thoughts so they've failed to secure the connections that they need to get them to the end of this game. Their view on the game is also very confusing as they pretended to not know sides to me and no matter what the truth was it was a very bad look on their part. Also on a more personal note they showed that they're willing to snap as seen yesterday in bri's dms and in the live competition channel. In terms of this vote I have hardly any connection to them and if they won hoh next week i know that i would not be safe unlike jev who i've formed a more honest relationship with. I am slightly worried that im taking out someone with no win chance but my first priority will always be house dynamics and to appease the bb gods, they need to leave.
Leaving: f7
Threat: None, likeability
Winning chance: 1/5
JOSHUA
Literally just hand the kid the winning title and pots at this point his control over the game is incredible. He has deals and connections with EVERY single person in this game and I truly feel like he can make the end if we dont take him out here but I can't control nathan at this point. I think he's formed connections to me and nathan through all of us being "big threats" while he has connections to Jev/Emma/Kiki as they were all on the original side and he's somehow escaped the block on someones hoh who he previously put up...this guy is unstoppable wtf. However the entire game IS aware of his skill and its very likely that he gets taken out soon because of this unless he goes on a comp run. I also find it very likely that the jury is rooting for him as he remained respectful with every evictee and had justifications for every eviction beyond just house dynamics and his game has been straighforward with his noms and bold with his connections. Im unsure of how exactly to get rid of him but I believe he thinks we're close (f2 tingz) and I find it unlikely he takes me out although i think hes notices that ive been a bit more closed off this week which is worrying for future endeavors.
Leaving: f6/f5
Threat: Big/Phyiscal/Social
Winning Chance: 5/5!!!!
JEV
Out of everyone left I find it very difficult to think of how Jev is playing, I think he's either playing the most straight forward game I've ever seen or his game has a lot of hidden depths. I mean how I view his game as another player is that he came into this game very unconnected but managed to wiggle his way into stable sides and form good connections where they've kept him safe when possible. Once he gained a side he stuck to it and just played an overall loyal game minus the yelling at nathan when he lied to him. I dont think the jury is very bitter at him but I also don't believe that they're super high on him in comparison to people like joshua. In terms of our own connection I think I might be higher on his trust list due to me being very proactive about using veto on him and voting to keep him- i dont think ill be in danger if he wins hoh but nathan sure will :nicolequeen: There is a chance he can beat me at the end just due to not fucking over all of the jury but the chance we make f2 is very small, he represents the utr social player that joshua might be scared of winning 
Leaving: f6/f5
Threat: Balance/Middle
Winning Chance: 4/5
EMMA
Emma's game is very interesting because its similar to kiki in the fact that she's been coasting or just sticking to her side but she's aware of her flawed gameplay and wants to do better and make moves. However the end is closing end and I doubt she has the time to really make a move although she has been very smart about how she presents herself to others this entire game showing high sense of strategy. I think we're fairly close in a personal and game sense (unless shes just buttering me up for the slaughter as her own big move) so I would love to take her very far in this game. Im unsure of how the jury view her at this point in time but i cant imagine it being very high at this time unless shes manipulating things behind the scenes. At the end shes probably one of the only people I can beat because the jury might want a "big" player to win so she's def an ideal f2 choice at THIS time.
Leaving: f3/f2
Threat: Strategic
Winning Chance: 2/5
BRIANNA
First off I love her so much personally she's seriously the kindest person I've met and i absolutely adore her but also her game has been fairly impressive so far. Her actions have been the catalyst for sides to form and big moves being made- however i can say that I had a hand in a series of these moves but received no blowback (or recognition) for them yet and I'm unsure how the jury will view us as a duo or who can lay claim to the moves made. I think some of the jury may be bitter such as Josh c and Nick but at the same time she'll have fans such as joey and jacob so its a very mixed bad and I think we'll be trying for the same votes which is worrying. She's also fairly good at comps and socializing putting her on a similar stage as nathan and joshua although for some reason she never gets the credit :/ Im unsure whether I want her at the end or not but there is a possibility ill cut her...
Leaving: ???
Threat: Social/Comp
Winning: ???
And i think i dont stand a chance tbh, my jury management has been ass but im gonna do my best <3 also sorry if this was mean fsabhfds
JEV
So Brianna has let me know that she is more than likely going to put me up as one of her initial nominees, meaning I've had to plead my case to her and severely downplay my game thus far in the hopes that she'll hear me out and by some miracle will spare me from the block this week, I'll insert the plea I sent to her at the end of this DR. I just hope she realises that there are bigger fish to fry cough Nathan cough and maybe even Joshua, although I respect him as an ally too much to even consider throwing his name out to Brianna like that. Worst comes to worst I'll just have to gun super hard for veto and take myself down, then work out the play from there if one of the other hot girls are put up in my place, but I hope Brianna isn't dumb and recognises that there isn't a drop of loyalty inside of Nathan and that she'd be stupid to keep him around another week.
JEV
So I asked Joshua if he'd save me if he won the veto, and he straight up said he'd use it on Kiki because he'd "feel bad" since he used it on me the last time me and Kiki were on the block together. It's made me feel kinda shitty because it's kinda solidifying to me that he considers me at least 3rd in our alliance, and that he and Kiki are quite likely a duo together. I have to try my hardest for this veto because I for sure leave over Kiki or the renom.
JEV
So... there is a chance, albeit a slim chance, that Nathan may use the power of veto on me. I've tried to butter him up by playing up to his kind of wildcard playstyle by saying that nobody would see it coming and it'd be the gag to end all gags, but who knows what he might do. He said he's considering it and will keep me in the loop just so I know what to expect. If I stay on the block, I know I hopefully have Aria & Emma's votes to keep me on lock, which means I'd only have to convince Joshua or Nathan to keep me, OR sway Brianna to keep me in the event of a tie, which I think is the most unlikely of the 3. Prior to tonights veto, I would've thought I'd have Joshua's vote to stay, but now I think its clear that Kiki/Joshua are a duo and Me/Emma are a duo, so I don't think I'd be able to sway him to save me unfortunately. However the rest of this week plays out, I have a lot of ass kissing to do which I hate but hopefully I can work a miracle
JEV
So... considering Nathan has promised safety to me this week I didn't quite expect him to go off on me like that in his veto speech but... I'm just gonna take the high road and not even acknowledge the video in house chat, as much as it sucks I just have to let Kiki run their mouth so hopefully people remain inclined to keep them around over me.
JEV
One hour to go until I find out if people are actually keeping me, or if they're all just being assholes and wanting to blindside me. As it stands, it should be 4-0 since all four of them have promised me their vote, but I'm lowkey suspicious about Nathan and Joshua, there's just something in the back of my mind telling me to be wary, I hope I'm just overthinking though
HOST WEEKLY CAST ASSESSMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29822U0WqVk&list=PLFEwPPy8j010XXwntq80VSU0qLNTNpSIN&index=11&t=0s
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