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#if thats not peak gay idk what is
aredpenny · 7 months
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Creating a magic system where a person's powers are the manifestation of what's in their heart, and then having your female main character unlock her powers because a girl calling out to her is what lights her "flames of courage"? The subtext could not be gayer.
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cherrirui-official · 19 days
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Me (eldritch forest creature) rizzing you (mud cowboy) up with my forest dweller swag (it's working)
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just watched Taboo (Gohatto) that anon here was talkin bout and i get legal rights to talk about it on this blog because takeshi kitano (hirose) plays hijikata in the movie
#snap chats#LIKE THE ENTIRE TIME I JUST KEPT THINKING 'wait he looks really familiar'#lo and behold thats so funny#anyway What Did I Think Of The Movie#it was hilarious the shinsengumi are fucking SCRAMBLING because of this pretty boy#hijikata looking at everyone like 'kondo are you in love with him ??? SOJI are YOU in love with him?? INOUE??????'#everyone but himself smh he only got eyes for one man but we been knew#okita was peak with the Top Ten Homophobia moments i cant#bro said 'oh no i hate gay people but i love a good story'#AND THE WAY HE WAS LIKE 'hijikata you're gay for kondo tho arent you like you always get pissed when people talk to him'#ENOUGH the shinsengumi is full of homosexuals#yamazaki was prob my fave bro in this movie idk why. maybe its cause i also thought he was real handsome but dont look at me#oh but the Actual movie i should talk about right#i just felt bad for kano the whole time#like people keep lusting after him and he's just like 'please leave me be'#the whole time hiji suspects him and tashiro to be lovers but like#we don't get to see kano's feelings on the matter aside from him pulling a knife on tashiro after he tries to sleep with him#it feels like kano's feelings are pushed to the side the whole time actually#the only time we actually see him earnestly say he loves someone is about yamazaki#and of course yamazaki doesnt reciprocate- whole movie tbh is just the shinsengumi trying to get kano to Not Be Gay#but like he's not even doing anything it's the men around him that keep trying to make a move on bro#tho the film DOESS say takeda courted him for a bit ?? but the deets on that are vague- tho kano at least laughs about it so#im scratching my head about the ending of the movie too- i cant decide if okita kills kano or what#hijikata cutting down the cherry blossom tree makes me believe that's what happened but idk#ALSO i dont think they want him to be Not Gay because of strict homophobia but because.well it's causing a problem#not STRICTLY cause hes gay but its cause men are killing each other over him- Allegedly it aint confirmed if kano killed yuzawa or not#but SOMEONE tried to kill yamazaki so.#it was an ight movie tho i wasnt mad bout watchin it. if you're gonna watch it warnings for SA/dubious consent and casual homophobia
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my desire to see the other routes vs my desire to replay cf over and over and over and over a
#crimson flower you are my only one#my favorite s supports are there. ok.#im so sorry im a little fucked up and think jeritza's support is peak romance#LISTEN. OK.#WHEN YOUR OPTIONS ARE EITHER ONE OF YOUR STUDENTS. OR THE FUCKED UP TEACHER GUY.#IM GOING FOR THE FUCKED UP TEACHER GUY#idk maybe its just me turning 18 or whatever but i.. no longer like most student/byleth s supports#i have exceptions but thats mostly characters like. hubert. who were adults from the start and didnt really care#edelgard depends on you! a LOT! and it makes me uncomfortable!!!#not bashing on ships i know what franchise im playing#im just. more comfy with jeritza?#also. i have like 50k words of zenoswol in my google docs i do in fact have a type#they shouldve made catherine & shamir wlw options. and manuela. why do all the female teachers have wlw energy#like alois i can believe is a golden retriever straight wife guy#jeritza is an option for mbyleth so thats just canon#seteth is in the same camp as solas from dragon age to me. like. i just feel it.#i just KNOW ok. dont question me.#linhardt & yuri shouldve been actually gay i dont careeeeee#like either make all your characters bisexual or give us homosexuals you cant. have all straight options & a couple for both#cf is just. the gsa route. you get nearly all mlm/wlw options in that route#you just have to recruit mercedes & cope with not marrying rhea but. why would you want to#and recruit yuri but idk i feel like everyone who owns the dlc recruits the ashen wolves anyway#like even if you dont use them#i never use anna and yet ive recruited her every single time. do i know why? no!#catherine & shamir in cf is heartbreaking. btw.#like in the final map i had shamir attack catherine and it gave me flashbacks to ferdinand in azure moon#tldr cf has hubert & jeritza and i love them too much to leave them behind
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chainreh · 2 years
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finished Nirvana initiative Feeling Oh So Normal
#nirvana initiative spoilers#tbh i was kinda right that this game didn't feel as mind fucky overall as the first game#mostly bc i kinda guessed some of the twists i suppose#like the identity of the masked woman and tearer and stuff#but that doesnt mean it was bad ofc i had a blast and was still surprised by a lot of things#also imo he's peaked with mindfucky stuff with the 999 plot twist . that still makes me lose my mind to this day#also im glad this game had a lotta 999 stuff thats my favourite in the ze escape series ncjdjcjdjx#shoma is still my favourite new character<3 but mizuki is my fav too ofc#also (me after finishing ryuki's route) is ryuki gay?#theyre like really vague about it and then at the end were like him and Tama are in love btw<3 weird bc thats like his eye but ok#like maybe the confession of love was platonic im all for telling ur friends you love them#but tama constantly made gay jokes about him 😭also we have a very Intimate relationship#what what does that even mean they didnt explain it#whatever ill never get answers#anyway i really enjoyed it and would recommend it to anyone who needs their brain melting/enjoys a good murder mystery#idk if i like it more. i think i like the characters more in this one but ill need to sit on it a while to say overall#also ni definitely wasnt as gorey as the first game. you never get to see the cut half of the corpses#also the somniuns were a lot easier. also a bit more hand holdly at times#but i think thats probably bc people complained about the solutions being random or whatever#i actually really appreciated the randomness bc it was actually pretty cool especially on how trauma patients process things#but also i appreciate not having to repeat the somniums a billion times😭#i still have nightmares about boss saito's somnium 😭i had to look up a guide for it in the end#anyway. ive added far too many tags. its 5am goodnight
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yonpote · 3 months
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ok heres how i split up the dnp eras (loosely based on dan's timeline in his interview w anthony)
2009-2011: the Sillies era :3 dan refered to it as being a dumb teen just posting cuz he was bored, which is like, thats what all of youtube culture was at this time. they met and like fell in love or whatever you know the lore dont you. phil moved from his parents home to his first apartment in manchester, and dan technically moved to uni but really he moved into phil's apartment to take advantage of his washing machine and ps1 and. yknow. other stuff. they officially moved in together in 2011 yippee hooray, the phanchester apartment holds a special place in my heart
2012-2013: THE SHIFT. they started getting Serious about youtube as a career, doing more stuff w the radio, superamazingproject started in 2011 but THE SHIFT is very easy to observe when you compare the first season of sap to the last season. ALSO. they were NOT A DOUBLE ACT AND NOT GAY 🙄. it could also be called the No Homo era lmao idk this is when a lot of shitty things were happening wrt leaked information, harassment of their families, and just generally becoming more in the spotlight especially while still in the closet being a horrible experience. but also, they moved to london and got cool opportunities with radio stuff and were starting to actually make a living on this shit.
2014-2016: Peak Dan And Phil™ Era. at the height of their popularity. they realized oh shit, we ARE a double act and not only does everyone enjoy us best as a double act, WE enjoy working together. tabinof, tatinof, dapgo, still doing the radio every month up until they start touring, 7 second challenge app, gamingmas, what the hell DIDNT they do during this time period (what they didnt do was uhh take care of themselves and not overwork and not blur their work and personal lives so much to the point where they felt like the whole apartment was a film set.)
2017-2018: Gay Softlaunch Era (aka post-baking aka glass closet) the baby steps toward authenticity, moved to the double apartment to separate work and life, ii's whole theme, dan talking abt depression, phil getting the quiff, both of them being gay as hell in every way other than saying it explicitly. important things of note: TRUTH BOMBS dropped, Interactive Introverts happened, still uploading gaming vids and honestly by the end you could feel their fatigue. and then they hiatused dapg.
2019-2022: ok these four years each feel like whole eras in themselves, but also theres an overarching theme. THE GAY ERA.
2019: im gonna futher split this year in half. first half- dad left to buy milk so other dad is taking care of us. rough six months for dannies im sure. important phil thing of note- he changed his film set from his "bedroom" to a fairly basic but cute shelf backdrop. honestly prob didnt wanna keep pretending that was his bedroom considering.... second half- DAN AND PHIL GAY. dan uploads his magnum opus. phil comes out via tweet. they go to japan and its really gay and it's The Trip to japan for them like yes they first went in 2015 and again in 2023, but Japhan 2.0 Was The One. what does this mean? proposal? anniversary? idk exactly but it was gay as hell dude and theyve talked about that trip with such love in their hearts.
2020: Phandemic (sorry that was bad) but also where tf is dan again? even with the big C-word happening, it was business as usual for phil, regular vids but make em gayer, caught a pigeon nbd, and end of the year introduces the Stereo app show Phil and Phriends where he's had chats with pj, louise, his brother, seth everman?????, and finally. dan reappears. they reveal that they bought and FULLY PLANNED a house together and are ready to move!
2021: they don't move house for another like six months! basically their house was (and is??) still being worked on AND they were in lockdown AND turns out at the end of last year, they were kicked from their Life apartment and were now living in the Work apartment so you can imagine what all of this can do to their psyche and lowkey they were getting sick of each other like it wasnt just bordering on phivorce it was nearly Phurder. Phidow. but to fill the time so that DOESNT happen, my favorite fucking thing ever happens: Lockdown Lads (and all the other names). the first taste of what a dnp podcast would sound like, with the added bonus of chaotic listener interaction. oh yeah also dan wrote a mental health guide book whatever (IM KIDDING I REALLY LIKE YWGTTN I WROTE LIKE TWO REVIEWS ON IT NOW) and they finally become Homosexual Homeowners. theres quite a bit more dnp content this year, dan being on phils channel a bit more, the phodcasts, dan's gay and not proud special.... oh yeah and hometown showdown i guess AND TEXT VIDEO 2!!! my favorite and my namesake!!!!!!!
2022: Prophecy Year..... but they didnt get married. dan returns with another longass video to say: hey i hate being a youtuber and also youtube majorly fucked me over. but also fuck that im gonna do a weird talk show and ALSO GO ON TOUR WITH THIS APOCALYPSE THEME! phil actually... slows down this year. more dan uploads than phil somehow??? but also Dan Is Leaving me is posted and i go completely insane and become the deranged individual you see today. WHICH FINALLY LEADS US TOOOOOO
2023-present: The Unhinged Era. dan's tour was a huge Emotional success for him but uh not without its hiccups due to management and all that and i think he and phil finally realize. Fuck It Who Cares. dan flies back to england FROM AUSTRALIA to make sure he can be with his future ex-husband on his birthday. CAKE HEART EMOJI. YELLOW PLAID SHACKET. they go on a gamer date and post a picture of playing footsies in a cab. THE PHUDE HAPPENS. they go to japan again and while this one will never be The One it was still a well earned holiday this time with bryony! and they took a bunch of very cute film camera pictures.... THIS IS ALL JUST THE FIRST HALF OF 2023 BTW. in phil news, he talks about going to therapy and figuring out how to manage his anxiety!!!! he changes his hair again!! he hires an editor, phan is his otp, he teases about the gaming channel a couple of times but so many of us already dropped any hope of that returning- OH WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?!!!? HUH!??!? they returned, and more chaotic than ever before. the gayness upped to the max, the Weirdness on full speed, the Horniness at Very Scary Levels Oh God Stop Talking About Dogging, phil can swear uncensored now???? and this energy has continued into today...
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also wrt to that privilege on tumblr post i also feel like ppl here r collecting marginalized identities like pokemon cards 2 use as gotchas in unrelated arguments. like i think that as a jewish person i have a final say abt my relationship 2 judaism n antisemitism and my experiences w them, and gentiles shouldnt speak over me abt what its like to experience antisemitism, what is or isnt antisemitic, what is or isnt jewish or abt relationships w judaism. but i wont like. see a post abt media literacy or what the fucking ever n go like 'um actually im jewish' or 'um actually im autistic' or whatever right. lyke i think theres a big difference between 'you, an outsider, dont get to talk over my experiences w judaism/antisemitism' and 'im jewish so everything i say about judaism. scratch that, about everything, is objectively correct and true bc im opwessed' bc ppl on here literally do that. like i saw someone reply 'op is literally black n trans' to a comment abt a discussion that was neither abt blackness nor transness? n like i get how these identities change how u experience 4 example class struggle or misogyny but saying 'ummm im literally trans' abt someone calling u a misogynist is so ??? girl. i read an article which i generally didnt agree w but he talked about how conversations in progressive spaces shifted from centering around substance to centering about identity, even in academy, where if someone is considered oppressed they are objectively correct in everything they say. which i think i agree w bc i see it in progressive circles online a LAWT. like i wouldnt defend my paper on idk. mens gendered roles in ancient greece by going 'ummm im literally gay???' which isnt far from how these lot act, at least online
also i think 'i hate straight/cis/white/etc. ppl pay me' isnt activism even tho thats what ppl on tumblr love acting like is peak praxis. its not activism. its not even a substitute 4 a personality.
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windypuddle · 1 year
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enstars headcanons
ok im going in order but i dont have headcanons for a few characters for sure. so. whatever on we go . just saying in advance these are mostly gender and Autism
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eichi tenshouin: look i cant say anythinf about this guy hes already canonically terminally ill and gay. like what do you want me to do
wataru hibiki: genderfluid. whatever gender fits the performance. shes the moment hes the star theyre the epitome of an actor
tori: boy you are so gnc. princess but not a girl you know
yuzuru: has definitely had impulse thoughts about dying his hair and having a scene phase at 3 am
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hokuto: bigender. sooooo queer . also autistic
mao: um ritsu braided his hair sometimes when they were younger
ryuseitai:
chiaki: trans guy i have many feelings about this but he leans into the hero thing because its gender affirming. also autism
kanata: no gender only blublublub. likes wearing long skirts. filipino. has like 1 million fish earrings. also autism
tetora: TRANSMASC ‼️💥💪
midori: transfem... also autistic.. she is so important
shinobu: Autism Autism Autism. bonus the detachment from gender that sometimes comes with the autism but he hasnt really thought about it. hes just some guy
alkaloid:
hiiro: transmasc autistic i will die on this hill
aira: my lovely mutuals have convinced me with blasian aira its canon to me now. white french? no. cowards happyele are cowards i tell you. theres such a vast portion of the francophone world that is not white . also transmasc
mayoi: scaredgirl weirdboy core. whatever gender is easier at the moment. she likes being pretty
tatsumi: ok yknow what. fuck it. aroace tatsumi
eden:
nagisa: so much autism. nonbinary guy. religious trauma
ibara: lesbian. not going to elaborate bc thats not my problem ibara is just a lesbian
hiyori: hes just gay idk what to tell you. cisboy gay who is so annoying. when people complain about "gay isn't a personality trait" theyre complaining about him. also chubby
jun: also gay but fans love him for being normal about it. one of his main motivations for working out is being able to princess carry hiyori. hes so polite usually its insane but with eden he doesnt care because he loves them so hes a bit of a bitch
valkyrie:
shu: god is a woman and her name is shu itsuki. transfem and autistic i will Also die on this hill.
mika: transmasc and autistic
2wink:
hinata: men liker but dont ask me about her gender idk
yuuta: i see those slipups in twin peaks girl u are transfem nonbinary i think
crazy:b:
rinne: bigender [wild cheering] also demi aka down bad for niki specifically
niki: tboy swag but hes not really bothered too much about medically transitioning. arospec i think
himeru: Sooooo nonbinary. so so so nonbinary. i like to hc afab nonbinary himeru and mainly got top surgery to more easily pass as kaname but like gahdamn of course you have blue hair and pronouns (they/it/no pronouns)
kohaku: tboy swag . the gender in crazy:b is off the charts
Undead:
rei: 1 million genderqueer and SO gay. has all the problems of an older sister but also the hotness that comes with issues u know.
kaoru: ok. bear with me. aussie. also transfem... like what do you mean you hate men and only hang out with girls. definitely arospec
koga: AUTISM!! weirdgirl to autism boy wonder transmasc swag pipeline
adonis: also autism. he can be gnc. as a treat
akatsuki:
keito: come on man we all know youre gay and insufferable about it
kuro: he should get to have piercings i think
souma: autism boy wonder. while you were busy learning social cues he was studying the blade. also applies to gender norms
ra*bits:
nazuna: boy there is something gender going on with you. weirdboy or maybe a gender cis people have never heard of.
tomoya: That Is The Normalest Girl I've Ever Seen
mitsuru: autism
hajime: girl what is your gender. hes like the narrator of the arch nemesis cynthia post. so poor they cant afford a gender
knights:
tsukasa: autistic and please please please let him be chubby. staring at happyele with my biggest saddest eyes Please let tsukasa be chubby. while you're at it can he wear a skirt. please
leo: ok i give a lot of characters autism because i have autism and i get it but i think leo has adhd
izumi: agender. any pronouns. idk what to tell you he said in next door that he doesnt care about gender only beauty
arashi: only normal one in knights. i love aranee she should get 1 million hours to stress bake if she wants to
ritsu: ah i understand why vampires are gay. occasionally a girl if its funny
switch:
natsume: Diversity win!! the angry witch is transmasc!!! neurodivergent but i think its funnier if i dont specify.
tsumugi: new gender unlocked its pathetic wifeguy. hes every spirit in the fields of punishment and he does it willingly for natsume
sora: wahoo autism ^_^ yippee!!
madara: is cowboy a gender?
feel free to reblog and throw in ur own headcanons i love hearing other fans hcs it is so awesome!!
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hi cas!!
im gonna rant at you for a bit if you dont mind :)
Im a minor that lives in a super tight night, close minded community. Super religious, super homophobic transphobic ect. Seeing as im a teenage girl whose questioning their gender and is definitely attracted to women thats kinda problematic lols. Honestly idek how to explain the situation without a bunch of details, but basically, theres a fifty-fifty chance of me being sent to conversion therapy or just cut off from any internet access (and i mean ANY. i have a flip phone for fucks sake.)if my fam finds out im queer, i have no support system outside of some internet friends who know nothing about my situation, and within the next few years(so like once i turn 20ish, thats in like 4 years but whatever) my family is going to expect me to get married to a man and start popping out babies asap. Btw thats whats expected of me in this community, marriage under the age of 25, have like as many kids as physically possible and god forbid higher education. And im not okay with that . Ffs i want to go to college, major in fine arts, meet a person i like and fall desperately in love or maybe not just have a bunch of close platonic relationships i want cats and a dog and a cute studio in a big city where i can dye my hair whatever color i want aand get an obsene amount of piercings, i want to wear pants!! I just want to live. Without expectations or limits or people who love me hating everything they dont know about me. Is that truly so much to ask for?
And im incredibly dramatic cuz i literally have the dream life. My family loves me, my parents are upper middle class, theyve never hurt me before(besides for all the anti everything rants haha) i literally have a full sized bed, which for some reason i see as the peak of being spoiled idk why. I go to school, not even public, a private religious school that prob costs thousands of dollars, i have friends(who are all part of this community btw and id bet my entire savings that most of them think gay is only a word that ppl use to mean happy lol) close ones even!! I have adorable neices and nephews(my 3 sisters all were married by the age of 20, so i have 11 niecesand nephews while my oldest sister is 31) im living the dream life. But i hate it and i have no way out. No hope of college to get on my feet and find someway out, no people that'll help me fucking run away or some bullshit like that, hell ive considered it and then felt like shit, cuz what am i even running from? Im probably attracted to men it wont kill me to marry one. And i like kids, i wouldnt mind having any either. But.... i dont want to be trapped anymore. Cuz ill be honest thats what i am.if some one asked me to run away with them rn i would, no hesitation.
God im a mess😭😭 anyway this was me ranting in my notes app, im just apologizing for dumping this on a complete stranger(we're moots actually!!) albeit a very kind one :) i dont know what im looking for, but ill take whatever your comfortable giving ig.
I love and appreciate you<333
And hey this has been oddly cathartic so lmk if its okay for me to do this again sometime :))
"im living the dream life. But i hate it and i have no way out."
Hon, you're not living the dream life...there's a difference between financial privilege and being happy, you know? It's pretty clear that this isn't what you want.
I'm not sure if you're asking for my advice here, or if you just want to vent. But I care about you, and if you want me to research some things to try to help you, I'm more than willing to (that way it's not on your search history.) Just say the word!
Until then, you are ALWAYS allowed to vent to me.
I'm naming you venting anon in case you write again!
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azelle-intermisson · 1 year
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Echo vn review
i have finally finished echo as my second ever visual novel after adastra. i really loved this vn and it was a super interesting read. for anyone who hasn't read it if a furry horror vn with very human feeling characters peaks your interest then i would 100% recommend echo its a really good story with some really strong characters that i enjoyed thoroughly. in this review im gonna be going through all the main cast and some of the side cast so its gonna be a kinda long post where i just gush about parts of each route i really liked but there will be titles before each section if you want to see what i have to say about one character in particular for whatever reason.
this review is all my opinion and is not going to be exhaustive so i will end up missing some things (mainly because i did not take notes while reading and forgot a lot oops). so if there is something i missed you wanna hear my opinion on ask :). also this is my first time writing something like this so lmk if there are things i can do better if i end up doing this again.
SPOILERS FOR THE WHOLE GAME AFTER THE READ MORE
before i fully dive into the review i wanna go over some of the external factors that have influenced how i view this vn. during flynn's route i was the most sick ive ever been in my whole life and im pretty sure i missed out on some vital details because of the brain fog during that sickness. i am not well versed at all in vns the only other vn i have played is adastra, however i am familiar with romance tropes so even though i feel like i missed out on some cool moments simply because i haven't played many vns i did not miss out entirely. also about halfway through my playthrough i learned that there is kinda an order you are supposed to read the routes in which is:  Carl > Leo > TJ > Flynn > Jenna, i ended up reading it in this order: TJ > Leo > Flynn > Jenna > Carl. i don't really know how much this ended up changing how i view the story but thats how i did it. i also made chase gay i don't really know what that ended up affecting since i played all the routes as gay chase and whenever i got something i considered a "bad ending" i would reset to my last decision and do something different. the last thing that might have some sway on how i feel is how sweet the community has been to me so far, i don't usually get myself involved with a community before i finish something but this time was different since i was making fan art and everyone was super nice <3
Visuals/Music
I really loved the music and artwork for this game. i feel like the music did such a good job of creating an atmosphere whether it was chilling in the diner with jenna and tj or getting kidnapped by brian it always did an amazing job at really putting me in the shoes of the characters. i adored all of the fully rendered drawings throughout the game i love the colors i love everything about it. of all of them i think the one below is my favorite i just love how serene it looks.
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this was my favorite track i feel like it does such a good job of capturing the tone of the whole game so well or the one that plays whenever they are just chilling idk what its called and i can't find it for the life of me it is driving me crazy.
Misc
there are a few things i couldn't quite fit into any of the next sections so i wanted to put them here. i really loved every character in this game i feel like the reason why i loved them all was because of how human they felt. whenever someone did something i didn't agree with i always defaulted to sympathizing with them because of how human they felt to me. also after writing this i have realized my ranking of each of the routes is just how much leo is involved with each of them i guess i just really love the guy.
Prologue
this part of the game is a little less fresh in my mind since i only read through it once on my first playthrough but from what i remember it did a really good job of establishing the setting and getting me interested in the lore of these characters. the first river scene was such an amazing moment i love how the route split happens in a way that makes you choose between emotionally comforting someone or going after who you want to romance. my only issue with it was that i did not realize that this was a route split in my first playthrough and ended up picking tj since he seemed the most affected by flynn and i was really worried about him even though the character i really wanted to romance was leo. even though i did not realize it was a game with so many diverging paths at first i still think the prologue was really good and got me very invested in the lore of echo.
MAIN CAST
Chase
i walked into this game not really expecting to care for chase too much since i kinda didn't like marco in adastra and i was expecting him to be more of the same type of guy but i was pleasantly surprised. i hate it so much when player inserts are just blank slates so im very glad that chase is an actual character who interacts with the world and people around him. he never had any moments where i was frustrated with him and wished he had said something different(aside from the ending of tj's route) and for the most part he reacted the way i think i would in his situation so i really liked him in all of the routes.
TJ
in retrospect i really like tj's route for how subversive it is as a romance with tj not reciprocating chases feelings and how nasty chase's jealousy felt. while playing it i kept waiting for leo to show up and whenever chase would try and romantically pursue him i would get kinda sad because i wanted to hangout with big wolf man. however i feel like this gave me a really interesting perspective on this route since before chase even kissed tj i never expected them to actually get together since it didn't feel like tj was all that interesting to me. this made chase's jealousy over julian feel even more scary than it already was and that final confrontation at the lake with flynn horrifying. i loved how the horror aspects where handled in this route and how subtle a lot of it was in comparison to other routes. chase drowning flynn and the description of it is one of the most haunting things from this game for me. overall i thought tj's route was pretty good even if i spent the whole thing wanting to hangout with leo because i was dumb and didn't know i had gotten to the route split. its in 4th place in order of my favorite routes in this game.
Leo
leo's route is my favorite i love him so much. i love how you get the bad ending of his route for trying to stay with him. his route was also my first time seeing the hysteria in full swing so that was a crazy twist. every single scene with brian made me feel so anxious i never really knew what to expect from him. i loved how his unhealthy obsession with chase was treated with the weight that it really deserved. the way he reacts to kudzu and chase's relationship not only feels like a natural progression of his character but also adds so much to the horror of his route since his jealousy often ends up causing serious harm. it was so sad to see him unravel and act the way he does during the hysteria because i really wanted to see him be happy and somehow move on from chase. the final scene of the "good" ending gave me what i wanted in the most evil way possible. i had wanted him to move on so bad that i had forgotten how brutal moving on can actually be. leo ends up losing the person he is closest to in the worst way possible i say this with love though it made me cry real hard. and the implication that he is planning on staying in echo is too just heartbreaking. i could go on forever about all the things i love about leo's character but i don't want this section to be too long so i will end it here and say leo is my favorite of the main cast and he has my favorite route of this whole game.
Flynn
i feel super conflicted on flynn's route, it does so many things so well but the ending left me feeling weird. i wanna talk about the things i liked first, which is most of the route. aside from leo he was the character i was most interested from the prologue mainly because i could tell that he wasn't just going to be a one-note mean guy and i thought he had a ton of potential for a really interesting story and i was right . i really enjoyed how his mean demeanor was written the times when he decided to be nice never felt out of character, like the way he helps carl with his interview and really wants his friend to do well and when things don't turn out well he still supports carl but does it in such a flynn way i just loved it so much. flynn and chase's relationship during this route stressed me out the most out of all of the routes mainly because of how they hid it from leo i really wanted chase to just talk to leo about everything but i can understand why he was avoiding it so much. i really loved the reveal of chase killing sydney and how flynn reacts to it. the way everything in that scene plays out was just amazing i can't be mad at either side of the it since i can understand why jenna and leo don't want to believe that their childhood friend killed someone but i can also understand flynn's immediate reaction to this and wanting to lash out at chase. the sydney flashback really got to me everything about it felt so real to me and flynn trying to take a big brother role for sydney and try and protect him from seeing the corpse anymore was so heartbreaking. my favorite part of this route was when you get the perspective of flynn rather than chase it was not something i was expecting in the slightest and i was so happy to be able to see some of his thought process when he does stuff. i really liked the hysteria portion of his route but im a little iffy on the ending. on one hand i like it for the story the fact that flynn dies kinda makes sense to me i just really wished he had lived and we had gotten to see a healed flynn who now knows the truth of what happened fully, even though i know this vn doesn't like giving out easy solutions. overall flynn's route is really good i just wish it had ended differently i would put it at 3rd place in my ranking of the routes in this game.
Jenna
i almost adore jenna's route as much as leo's. i really like her personality and aside from leo she is my favorite character. learning that she likes manga and watching anime with her was such a fun little moment that i thought was cute. it really surprised me when carl went missing in this route i was kinda expecting his birthday to play out the same in every route but i this was a really good plotline. i liked that this route forced jenna and flynn to interact more since the tension they have is always so fun to read. i loved the side characters in this route micha was my favorite out of all of them(even though i think jeremy is really cute). i want to give micha his own section in this review but to put it shortly his relationship with leo made me super happy. i really liked the tension between jenna and leo it was such a good conflict that i enjoyed reading. the whole fake cheating prank was such a gut wrenching scene that i was honestly having a hard time getting through. i liked the section where they are kidnapped by brian more in this route than in leo's mainly because brian getting rocked by the ghost thing was really satisfying. the implication that carl was tortured the same way chase was for multiple days is unfathomable to me. leo and chase being sewn together made me feel sick because anything remotely body horror related gets me and micha having to sever that tie was really cool foreshadowing for leo and micha's whole thing. the whole van section was also really incredible and seeing leo start to move on from chase warmed my heart in an otherwise very intense route. i liked heather she is such an intresting character to me since i really want to sympathize with her because its clear she has a lot of unresolved trauma but she was also an asshole to jenna and tried to flood all of echo. i really loved her trying to flood the town it is such a crazy plot point but i still really loved it and jenna having to put aside how shitty heather was to her to talk her down was a really good moment. the dinner scene after everything also felt very satisfying and it was good to see micha be apart of the group for a bit his interactions with everyone made me smile. i really liked jenna's route all around it is my 2nd favorite and was a super fun read.
Carl
i really liked carl's route i relate to a lot of his struggles and even though there where less scenes that scared me it was still really good. this was the last route i played so i was feeling kinda melancholic while reading since echo had become my nightly routine for about 3 weeks and i was really loving the characters and story. i liked how much lighter(in comparison to the other routes) of a tone carl's route took staying over at his big haunted mansion is such a silly concept on paper but it ends up playing out super well. i thought raven was a silly guy even if he didn't really add or remove much from this route and he helped keep jenna somewhat in check so that was nice. the escape room stuff was so interesting to go through. i found myself feeling scared that they may not actually make it out or they would end up killing each other. my favorite scene from this route was the hanging tree stuff. i had such a vivd picture of everything happening and it was really hard to watch jenna and carl to do things that i know they wouldn't. this route also had a ton of echo lore so i kinda wish i had played it first since i feel like i missed out in other route because i was trying to piece together things that are revealed in carl's route. i really liked the james hendricks and john begay stuff . even though carl's route is my 5th favorite by no means do i think it's bad.
Side Characters
i'm not going to only talk about the ones that really stood out to me and in a much shorter way than the main cast (other than micha)
Micha
micha is my favorite of the whole side cast and i really adored him and leo's relationship that i interpreted as romantic during the last bit of jenna's route. at first i didn't really like him and thought he was kinda an asshole. as the plot kept going i kept getting more and more attached to him since he was still an asshole but he was working with the main group. normally i don't like characters like him but i feel like he was written in such a realistic way that i found it hard to stay mad at him. i really loved him and leo's relationship their connection felt so real and i think they could be soooooo good for each other. the van scene was so incredible the way the player and chase have to fill in the blanks as leo and micha talk about what happened between the two of them really immersed me in the story .leo feeling guilt over never reaching out to micha after he was disowned was such an interesting thing i never really expected leo to want to help someone who was a bully to his friends but i still feel like it makes sense for leo to feel this way since he just wants to protect people. i think its really sweet that leo ends up leaning on micha more after the van scene. also the scene in the dinner at the end of jenna was really sweet i loved seeing micha being added to their group dynamic and i wish i got even more. in conclusion leo and micha should kiss and live happily ever after <3.
Brian and Clint
i don't have a lot to say about these guys other than the fact that they are horrifying antagonists. before i saw brian fight i was under the assumption that if leo is present then we are probably safe but brian ends up breaking that sense of safety in such a horrifying way. i like that even though clint isn't physically strong the fact that he has the strongest character following his orders made him so intimidating
Jeremy
i wanna give him a big kiss even tho he is mean
Janice
i really liked janice in tj's route. i love the fact that we never get a clear answer for why she needed chase and tj to be digging holes. i almost want to trust that she isn't killing people but she clearly has a few screws loose.
Closing Thoughts
i really loved this furry visual novel and its really human feeling characters. i had way more to say about it than i thought and the more i write the more i love the story and the more i want to say but this is already such a long post. i liked adastra more but i don't really feel like it is a fair comparison because if i hadn't played adastra this account would not exist and i prob would not be drawing at all but maybe if i had played echo first it would have done that to me since it still is really good. this was super fun to write even tho i know some of it might not make any sense lol because this is just kinda stream of conscious. i might end up doing this with other things i read/watch since it also gives me an actual reason to take notes when i read/watch things. also i wanna say thank you to the community on here i haven't been involved with fandom spaces for a really long time and im still not very involved with this one but you guys have been super nice and i wanna continue making art and talking about this game :)
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noodlerock56 · 4 months
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*real quotes from modern day feminists after I told them I was SA'd by a woman*
"Still women are more likely to be SA'd so thats why its talked about more, and when a man is SA'd its usually by ANOTHER MAN"
"Lol no one cares"
"Are you sure you're not lying just to prove your dumb point?"
"Only 9% of SA victims are men though..."
(after I described what happened) "well its not as bad as what women go through with men"
*basically the same as someone describing their experience with depression and someone jumps in and starts screaming about starving children in poverty because they have it worse, even though starving children barely had anything to do with the depressed persons experience*
"no feminist is making fun of you, its mostly other men who make fun of SA victims"
"cry incel" (how can I be an incel when I'm gay lol)
"you're just using your bad experience as an excuse to hate women, I don't even think you actually were SA'd and are just spewing BS to make yourself look more sympathetic"
"you cant blame all women though 🥺" (I know but why do feminist women blame all men 90% of the time?)
"this is peak misogyny" (all I said was that I was critical of feminism due to how feminists have reacted to my SA experience, never once have I said I hated all women lol)
I’m sorry you were SA’d and i hope your life is better now. The road to recovery is a long and bumpy one, but i can tell you from experience that once you reach it, it gets a hell of a lot better.
As far as the feminists’ reaction to your story, it’s sadly very common for them to downplay male victimization. Idk if you’ve heard of this story before, but back in the 1970s, feminist Erin Pizzey realized, after talking to female victims, that most domestic violence cases were mutual and tried to open up an abuse shelter for men. A whole army of feminists shut down the shelter and harassed Erin for 15 years, threatening to beat her up (or worse) for her “misogynistic crime”.
I told one radfem i was sexually harassed by a guy and abused by my ex-girlfriend, but i’d gotten over it and didn’t hate them for it. you can probably guess which one the radfem totally ignored and which one she shamed me for.
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slowjamastan · 1 year
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What do you think of sufin and what are your squicks when reading a fic about nordics?
kissing you on the lips im going to rant so much
SuFin is my everything
theyre my bread and butter and toast and jam and all the other things on top idk powdered sugar etc. changed my LIFE that my middle school yaoibait fandom straight up got told by word of god himself that One Guy (who is normal fr this wasn't one of the ones who is always naked or sm) was madly unequivocably and eternally in love with That Other Guy. this was such a big deal for me and still is lbr
SuFin is peak they are my bella and edward this is my thenotebook. AND they are canonically not together and over the years ive seen a pattern of fans who are either familiar with actual swedish-finnish relations or doing research into them concluding over and over that finland would not seriously go for sweden, outside of AUs or jsut bending canon bc they really want them together (valid.......)
i love when fin is holding grudges or uncomfortable with the implications of seriously pursuing a relationship with his former (current, culturally?) oppressor so they try to keep it casual and Fail Severely, OR, my #1 favorite dynamic, Finland is fully a straight man who is like "soz but we can be friends bro lmao" and calls sweden homophobic slurs behind his back (but no one else is allowed to but him, obviously). (this is for my personal funnyvalue and ive rarely rareeeeely seen this. im right tho.)
other than that last thing basically i think its very good if they Are mutually in love but logistics and politics and realism and everything keeps them apart or maybe just closeted about it. but they have shared custody of the dog and the kids etc and have couple fights that are more serious than most but are the most steady and happiest couple on the planet overall. soulmates Real. i love sufin its good in every flavor really ummmmmmmmmmm except hyperukefied finland
thats a good lead in to part 2 of this question actually
Nordic Fic Squicks / please stop doing this, im gonna read it anyway, but still
th's k'nd' typ'ng st'le...... y'kn'w wh't ' m''n
denmark and sweden r always angry and trying to beat each other up... we read the same comic, right? theyre buddies now cmonnn
the dynamic that's like DenNor, SuFin, and Iceland is alone 4evr
WHEN THE DENNOR + SUFIN GROUP DYNAMIC UKEFIES NOR AND FIN UNTIL THEYRE BASICALLY UWU GORLS... stop imposing hetero dynamics on gay ships i will Kill You. at least do it to everyone equally...
somewhat related, my ideal nordic five dynamic is Everyone Is A Divorced Dad and iceland is making fun of them on TikTok. second best dynamic is SuFin real, then Den + Nor are amicably divorced and iceland is their shared custody grown child making fun of them on TikTok
^iceland would not use tiktok he is a euphoric intellectual freak
when they make just norway a girl for no reason. babe, no one even draws nyo!norway that well...you're just projecting your desire to be fought over by hot buff men onto this poor dude. stop making me see this. you fucks have been doing this for over a decade.
ignoring history in canonverse. when ur writing modern present-day anything they have all known each other for like, ever. why would they act like they've just met..??? im not asking for tons of research, just awareness of who these characters are, like, at all
please just write the puffin out. no one rly likes him i prommy
scandinavian trio being Weird and Tense around each other in modern day. i disagree SO much, these guys would be hilarious
not realizing that smack halfway between nor and ice's birthdays is (give or take a few days) denmarks constitution day... himaruya......
overreliance on stereotypes. this is a general hetalia complaint
can we talk about the human names ive been dying to complain about the human names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just a little bit ill keep it to a minimum
tino isnt a feasible finnish name berwald isnt a good swedish name a lot of the common popular other ones get misspelled or just sound bad, and u cant just give them christian names for their early lives im sooooo serious give them old norse names pre-baptization pleaaaassseeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
somewhere deep in my #post tag i ranted ab my old name timeline for each of them but ive changed my mind a few times since then
for finland im a Timo truther and i have been forever
sweden is such a björn but also i like when his name at least starts with ber- .... but yall r so right when u said bjorn he does deserve that
im also a norway changes his name every few years truther. i think its funny and that he would do that
denmark is a magnus, period, formerly a magni, and this is my hill to die on
iceland makes me insane i change my name hc for him every so often but i have a few first and lasties for him for make me HOUUUGH like SoS turned me on to hrafnsson as a surname which makes me go insane now. im also a changes his name frequently truther for this guy but in a more nuanced way than nor does it
ran out of things to complain about but more will hit me later im sure, thank u for coming to another aphws ted talk by andy. MWAH
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menalez · 8 months
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"idk why would anyone argue that bisexuals can/should call themselves anything other than bisexual when it harms everyone??"
that's not what I was arguing. I'm saying it's stupid we have to pretend OSA oppressors that live 99%+ straight peak hetero lives are in any way the victims they paint themselves because of identity. who gives a fuck about their identity when their material reality is that they are a privileged oppressor group that mostly promotes homophobia and misogyny. opening it up to identity lets them paint themselves as the poor ultimate victims they always want to be.
and you can't prove they experience homophobia that abuse could be anything and probably just misogyny. maybe the bi victim complex makes them report abuse more than het women or maybe they report because they think they can go to women temporarily. desisapphic has good post on this.
the statistic isn't "99%+" and you know it.
bisexuals are at high risk of domestic violence, far higher than any other sexuality. just because they gain some privilege for passing as straight when in heterosexual relationships, does not mean that they somehow do not face any level of homophobic violence from individuals that know that they are same sex attracted.
if the abuse is probably just misogyny then how come bi men also face high rates of domestic violence, higher than straight and gay men?
"maybe the bi victim complex makes them report abuse more than het women" thats just victim blaming. you're more or less saying that if someone is bisexual, they're probably lying about their abuse.
"or maybe they report because they think they can go to women temporarily" this is just a bizarre theory. they report facing abuse on anonymous surveys "because they think they can go to women temporarily"? again, this strange explanation does not even acknowledge that bisexual men also face high rates of domestic violence. both bisexual men & women face high rates of domestic violence, overwhelmingly at the hands of their heterosexual partners. idk why you think it'll somehow serve gay people to ignore this and pretend heterosexuals don't abuse same-sex attracted people.
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theelderscrotes · 1 year
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hold on i got the full gowr cosplay guide so now i gotta go insane over odin too
-i love the subtle theme of Performative Comfort he conveys. his overcoat is slightly frayed in that well-worn favorite coat kind of way, his overall fit is modest but refined to denote his station above everyone else - just not Too Above Them, despite his placement on the hierarchy. everything feels deliberate in the way that it could be a costume. it leads back to his character themes of being a control freak - being a tyrant doesn't necessarily make you in control the way being a benevolent dictator might.
-i turned into a 1930s salivating cartoon wolf the moment i saw the overhead angle showing off his widows peak.
-his head/neck ink implies he shaved himself bald at some point to do it so now i just idly wonder when that was. after losing his eye maybe? idk but man what a good look.
-looking back, ive designed so many characters that have sleeves that show off the forearms only. odin really does just feel like Bait for Me Specifically (even if his tatts, while hot, are a bitch to deal with)
-Professional Boot-Liker Verdict: hmmm yes this is acceptable. however odin can wear the most godawful of crocs and i'd still want him to step on me. sorry.
-WHY does he have those lil wrapped bits in his hair... what is the purpose here. why are there only two in asymmetrical placements, this makes no sense to me.
-i didnt catch the rope theming at first so its really interesting seeing this pointed out. i am thinking my gay little thoughts of odin shibari as we speak.
-oh he loves his ravens so much and bases so much of his look on them, thats so cute ;_;!
-the deliberate pointing out w/ the commentary that odin has very sparingly decorated himself with aesir designs and iconography while heimdall has smothered himself with it is so fascinating. yeah you fuckin would groom exactly one son into the perfect little aesirpilled asgardian nationalist so you can seem 'impartial' or whatever the fuck
god he is so hot in such a way that feels like an attack on me specifically. he could break my heart, ruin my life and murder my loved ones and i'd still beg for but a crumb of pussy
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rotisseries · 8 months
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anyway. liam says "you made your point" and then. takes a breath and looks away from the mirror and theo says "and you didnt kill him. thats progress." and liam is so . ough hes so skeptical of theo. hes like "why do you keep trying to save me? you think it'll make scott forget about everything you did? and he'll just let you into the pack?" didnt he tell you he doesnt care about being in the pack anymore. and just wants to help. or at least inferred that last part by the way he keeps sticking around you? also cinematography popped off w this scene. the camera angle shows liam on the left and theo on the right and theres space between them and you can see beams of sunlight peaking over the lockers. shining between them. gay idk. (byler changed the way i look at scenes😭😭) and then liam steps closer like "scotts never gonna trust you." "you might wanna remember what scotts goal has been all along." and theres a very pointed but brief pause. "keep people alive." AND GABE FOR SOME FUCKING REASON SPEAKS UP LIKE "he should try harder" BRO WHAT. CRAZY FOR A GUY THAT ALMOST GOT KILLED IN A SCHOOL LOCKER ROOM IDK . liam turns around to look down at him and theo tilts his head at gabe . and liam goes "what are you talking about?" and gabe starts to get up and hes like 😮"....you dont know do you?" liam looks at theo and theo looks back and steps closer to him and asks gabe "Know what?" gabe looks between them and chokes , like he doesnt say anything . theo looks quickly at liam then brushes past him and PICKS GABE UP AND SLAMS HIS HEAD BACK ON THE MIRROR. wayyyy harder than liam did. and gabe goes "ABOUT THE OTHER BODIES." and liam is like "what other bodies" does not care whatsoever what theo is doing rn lmaooo. theo looks at liam like what the fuckkkkk. 
theo is liam's scary dog now just fully
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syscoursehell · 2 years
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Please stop trying to medicalise autism, we as a movement have been trying to fight against this shit for literal DECADES. Disability and neurodivergence are not inherently tied to suffering. All we are saying by ‘neurodivergency can be non-disordered’ is that by definition, something that does not cause you ‘clinically significant impairment or distress’ is not a ‘disorder’. Being disordered isn’t inherently worse than being non-disordered, but treating autism (or any other neurodivergency) as inherently disordered makes our very existence something that needs to be ‘cured’. Your blog reads like a fucking Auti$m $peaks ad. If a disorder was anything that differed from the ‘norm’, we’d be back to medicalising gay and trans people.
read my other posts. i'm sure if you typed all of this, you have either not read what i'm saying, or do not care.
autism is a disorder, but why the hell are you treating it like thats a bad thing? and i definitely do not think you have an inkling of an idea of what the neurodiversity movement and autism rights movement have been fighting for.
the "clinically significant distress" can apply to symptoms such as meltdowns and shutdowns and sensory overloads. idk about you but those are pretty distressing.
anyways the idea that a disorder is something needing a cure is ableist rhetoric you need to unlearn real quick, cause that's not even close to what i'm saying. i never implied autism is something we're "suffering from", in fact my posts all say otherwise. if you're gonna send some long bullshit ask you should have at least read the posts i've been making instead of whatever the fuck you think this is. implying any of this is A$ rhetoric when i quite literally have been making post after post talking about how "yeah autism is a disorder, why do people see the word 'disorder' and conflate it with being damned to pain and suffering" is willful ignorance.
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