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[finnlongman]

POV: You're making a PowerPoint presentation for a paper about 15th-17th century Ulster Cycle tales

#cu chulainn #help help they're eclipsing all the lenited consonants again #irish #gaeilge #anyway early modern irish was a mistake

[mxrtified777]

rabbit doll thing and demon (?) are in love, more at 7

#my art #oc #oc art #adonis saint #mortis leniter #I REDESIGNED THEM #theyre a cryptid now #ask me about their relationship i love them #i should. give them a ship name. maybe. #cryptid #creepy cute #pastel goth

[saurons-pr-department]

#mairon #sauron #melkor #morgoth #gaeilge #not me agonising over whether i should include lenition in morgoth #i feel like this is once again a niche joke

[trans-cuchulainn]

fun fact about me: i don't actually know how to pronounce my own name

#in some early modern texts the d is lenited #and if you go medieval with a dh you get th but if you go modern you get y #and I don't include the lenition in my spelling and I'm not sure if it's even implied #i don't know what century my name is from. is the main problem. #and i pretty much only use it online / in text-based contexts so this doesn't come up much #is it nay-duh. nay-thuh. nay-yuh. are we even pronouncing the final e or is it nayth. fuck if i know!!!

[ly0nstea]

Irish grammar spotlight - séimhiú or lenition

The séimhiú (shay-voo) is the process of adding an 'h' between the first and second letter of a word, for example, the word mála (maw-la) (bag) would become mhála (vaw-la).

The séimhiú softens the start of the word, as above it turns m into a v sound.

Only some letters take a séimhiú, a, e, i, o, u, h, j, l, n, r, v, and s (though s has some exceptions) are all exempt from séimhiu.

This means the letters b, c, d, f, g, m, p, t, and occasionally, s.

The séimhiú aspirates the consonant, which means that while saying the consonant you exhale a puff of air, similar to how the 'h' is pronounced in english words like house, essentially you combine the consonant with 'h' sounds.

Approximately, the consonants go from:

buh > vuh, kuh > khuh, duh > yuh, fuh > wuh, guh > ghuh , muh > wuh/vuh, puh > fuh, tuh > huh, suh > huh. (Note pronunciations may vary between dialects.)

So when do you use a séimhiú?

Well, a séimhiú is always used after the first and second person possessive pronouns, as well as the masculine third person (note this is the way irish diffrentiates 'a' into his or her so the séimhiú here is quite important) This makes mála go to mo/do/a mhála (my/your/his bag)

A séimhiú is used after the 'vocative a', the vocative a is essentially a call to get someones attention, for instance, the sentence 'Hey Séan!' would turn to 'A Shéain' (note, in the vocative you also put an i before the last letter)

When conjugating the past and conditional tenses you add a séimhiú (with some exceptions)

When using 'an' (meaning the) before a feminine noun you add a séimhiú to the noun such as fuinneog to an fhuinneog

When listing a number of items 1 through 6, i.e. one boat is aon bháid, six boats are sé bháid.

After certain prepositions, such as ar (on/in/at/for), do (to/for), de(of/like), sa, faoi (under), ó (from), and roimh (before), as well as preverb modifiers like ba and má (if)

Most negatives (words after ní, níor, nár) take a séimhiú

Proper nouns are lenited when indicating ownership, e.g gúna Chaoimhe (Caoimhe's dress)

When compounding words, all words except from the first are lenited. (e.g. bangharda)

There are other cases but these should cover just about every case. This amy seem like a lot but it really isn't a massive deal, play it by ear. Worst comes to worst, feel it out! If it feels like it should take a séimhiú, throw one in, no ones going to kill you for it.

(here and here are some other good explanations for when to use a séimhiú)

#séimhiú #lenition #irish #gaeilge #gaeilgóir #irish language #grammar #language #linguistics

[sadpurpleblood]

well. that turned out surprisingly simple. almost too simple... Oh well those are just the active indicatives anyway. if thingsll turn out WAY too simple for me ill probably manage to find some ways to improve it if i tried.

#conlang #conlanging #linguistics #turns out i dont need any declensions because the lenition is THAT strong that i had to use predictable forms #oh well

[tragedykery]

I love going completely overboard with worldbuilding as soon as I get an idea for an au. will this be mentioned in the fic? probably not. am I doing it anyway? of course

#elli rambles #I blame theo for giving me the idea (it’s a pj.o lot.r au) #anyway. who wants to hear how I’ve constructed annabeth & rachel’s names in elvish so I can reasonably explain why I ‘translated’ their #names like that? #that’s too bad I’m telling you anyway #annabeth’s name can be constructed completely. quenya ‘anna’ meaning ‘gift’ + sindarin ‘peth’ (+ lenition -> ‘beth’) meaning ‘word’ #I could have her be a poet of a writer of some kind to explain the name #I could also go with Q ‘enne’ instead of ‘anna’ meaning ‘thought/purpose’ which rather fits her I think #for rachel it’s harder bc the /tʃ/ doesn’t exist in either quenya or sindarin #but the sequence ‘ty’ (/tj/) does (in quenya) which is similar enough #so I went with Q ‘ré’ meaning ‘day’ + Q ‘tyel’ meaning ‘end’ #it could be an epessë (elvish given (nick)name) given to her by annabeth referencing dusk/sunset #technically I /could/ just make her have an undisclosed westron or adûnaic name but where’s the fun in that #also the reason between the changing of vowels is that the e & é are pronounced /ɛ/ & /ɛː/ and /ɛ/ & /eː/ in sindarin & quenya respectively #which is closer to the ‘a’ in their english names than /ɑ/ or /a/ #I am aware I’m being a massive nerd about this. in my defence I Am in fact a massive nerd

[spynorth]

i learned Gaeilge for Killian ... are yall ready to watch me learn Russian for this dude.

#not that i think he would ever truly speak it. #i think if you take in elizaveta and the time in prison .. it probably harbors a few oof memories. #so like does it come in handy for things? of course. #is he going to casually throw it out to people? no. #and by Gaeilge for killian ... i mean i literally learned it. #I can speak/write/translate fluently lmao. #some stuff i'm still brushing up on bc lenition and ellipsis can be a bit hard to remember sometimes but !!

[passengerpigeons]

I know anglos talk about how sentence construction in gaeilge is weird but tbh what gets me is that the masculine possessive adjective triggers lenition. But if it starts with a vowel it's no longer lenition and instead the feminine possessive adjective appends an h to the following word. Like

A húll agus a úll - her apple and his apple

But

A mhairteoil agus a mhairteoil - his beef and her beef

#i looooooooove lenition and eclipsis (<- trepanning self with milkshake straw)

[darkwood-hollows]

so one of my beta readers, and a close writing buddy and podcaster, offered to record them reading my manuscript out loud so i could get another perspective on the writing and although I do read my stuff out loud myself, having it in ~podcast voice~ makes it very real for one, but not me quickly and sheepishly creating a pronunciation guide because of all the scottish gaelic names. like i'm. so. sorry.

#writblr #writeblr #literally sg pronunciation is so second nature to me it didn't even cross my mind #until my poor beta was fumbling with weird lenition lmao #whoops.

[thebrutalballadoffangusklot]

will never get over the fucking editing/voice work on lucifer’s anger

#I WAS TO LENITENT #YOUR EMOTIONS DONT DISTRACT YOU #THEY RULE YOU

[mxrtified777]

take some oc warmup nonsense

id say that id like to answer questions about them but i dont know how much i remember about the backstories i came up with fhdhbfjsk

#my art #oc art #fuck what do i use to tag my ocs with #angel papillion #lillian valentine #doux #mortis leniter #adonis saint #I REMEMBERED THEIR NAMES

[happi-speech]

#not much free info online about lenition but this was cool to review #lenition #article #my speech #linguistics

[trans-cuchulainn]

sorry for asking but google isn't helping and it's not in your about. how is néide pronounced?

lmao idfk, it depends what dialect of Irish you speak and what century you're currently in

most people seem to go for something like "nay-djuh" but Other Pronunciations Are Available

#it really depends if you're treating the D as lenited or not #because sometimes in modern spellings it is neidhe #and that is a whole other kettle of fish #answered #invisible-goats