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alexiethymia · 4 years

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five and his siblings

or me back to my overanalyzing bs or five as a convenient mouthpiece for why I love the other siblings through their dynamic. If you expect this to be coherent, HA! anyway, moving on.

five and luther: I need them to be twins like in the comic so bad. See in the beginning, you could contrast them as luther being the most loyal (to their Father) and Five possibly being the most rebellious. Dutiful son vs. li’l sh*t. The most lawful good and moral vs. lawful neutral amoral. But see Five is as loyal as Luther, only it’s towards their family and not Reginald (and that’s also interesting to me, if Five considers ‘Dad’ and ‘Mom’ part of the ‘family’ he’s desperate to save. Hard to say for sure since we don’t really get interactions with him and ‘Mom’. Meanwhile, he refers to Pogo as a family friend).

And then that contrast between the first two episodes of Season 1 and Season 2. In S1, Luther just wants to help Five. and Five doesn’t want him to (understandably because he’s still reeling from the trauma), while in S2 it’s Five asking for help from Luther and Luther refusing. You also have Luther learning how to ‘fight dirty’.

But see, it matters that Luther is the one Five eventually turns to first after Diego was a bust. And eventually, Luther proves worthy of that trust. Luther is also the one he asks for help when he’s facing his paradox psychosis. I like that trustworthiness and steadiness that is Luther, and how Luther was the assigned leader, but Five somehow becomes their figurative leader in gathering everyone together and getting things done.

five and diego: They’re always such a fun duo. I think it’s because Diego is probably the second most like Five. I’ve said it before, but I think they’re the tsunderes of the family, the most outwardly hostile and snarky, and yet the most violently overprotective of the others. I like how they now have the Commission in common, and despite it being the end of the world, they make a competition out of it!

It was hilariously hypocritical for Five to say that the Commission wouldn’t hire Diego because he has an ‘obstinate nature’ when HE IS EXACTLY LIKE THAT. Despite all their similarities, they’re still foils in that Diego is a social extrovert while Five is a murderous introvert. I mean you can see that in the way they solved problems at the Commission. Five plotted and blew stuff up. Diego joined the Resistance and ended up making up a secret handshake in less than an hour? Arguably, as much as I love Five, Diego’s way was more effective.

This trio is also pretty fun. Like Klaus said, because of their competitive and aggressive personalities, they have to bro it out a couple of times. I like to think that Five is harsher with the both of them as compared to the rest of their siblings (he’s obviously softer on Vanya, and he seems softer with Klaus too) because he considers them his equals as protectors of the family.

five and allison: I’ve mentioned my favorite five and allison moments already in a previous post, but honestly we were robbed in s2! Well, I guess it’s a hint that the ONLY time anything went smoothly in S2 was when Five picked up Allison, and by extension Klaus. Ugh, we got the mopey lovesick trio with Luther, Diego, and Vanya. Why couldn’t we get interactions with the other trio? That would’ve been so much fun, I think.

Anyway, although this is only head canon, I think the only other sibling Five considers as a competent adult would be Allison. If they partnered up, with their combined smarts, they could get so much done!

five and klaus: They’re seemingly the most different. Klaus is the most open with everything, and Five is just this closed armadillo. Klaus is sexy trash and Five is the man with the plan. But that scene between them in Season 1 Episode 2 was just brilliant. They’re both guile heroes, and Klaus is creative in a way Five can sometimes appreciate. We know Five can smile, like his murder smiles, and even sincerely because of his family members, but, and despite it being an acting failure once, I like how Klaus can genuinely make him laugh, even when he’s trying not to.

More than that, Klaus said it best, the both of them are addicts. I think Klaus is becoming more well-adjusted lately. I actually think when they finally evade the apocalypse for good and things are back to normal, Klaus is the best person to help Five live a normal life.

In the original script, Five said Vanya and Klaus were the only ones among the siblings he trusted. I really wanted to know why. I mean he still says he trusts Vanya in the show and goes to Klaus after Vanya for assistance with his scheme at Meditech, but I wonder what was behind the choice to have Five say he trusted Klaus, the family’s ‘basket case’, over the other seemingly more ‘responsible’ members.

five and ben: We have even less interactions with Five and Ben, than with Five and Allison. That is a travesty that has to be remedied in s3. Again, the hints we have are intriguing, like how Five calls Ben’s name after Vanya’s in the apocalypse, and how he was the only one to ask Klaus if Ben came back with them in their time travel.

five and vanya: I need a whole separate post about these two because they just give me too much feels. I will say this though. I just find it so interesting how two seemingly polar opposites could end up such good friends (based on the hints we’ve been given) - the rebellious and brilliant one with the ordinary wallflower - but then I realized, they probably got along so well because of how alike they are.

Besides being arguably the most powerful in their family, and being introverts to boot, based on what we saw of Vanya’s history, she was probably the most rebellious among the Hargreeves children and not Five. I just really love their dynamic in both s1 and s2.

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