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alagaesia-headcanons · 6 months
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I will always be so sad and angry that Eragon never recognized how horribly the elves treated him and that no one else helped protect him from it either. Oromis is so insidiously and inexcusably cruel to him and Eragon truly deserved the chance to escape that and see the damage he caused, and also to then beat Oromis into a bloody pulp. And Glaedr too, honestly. He's mostly gone unscathed in my past rants, largely because at least his personality isn't so insufferable, but he ain't shit either. He's fully complicit in all of Oromis's vile abuse, and adds to it himself in certain places. They more than earn Eragon's ire, but they all constantly belittle him and insist that they inherently know better than him about everything, and poor Eragon believes them, so he doesn't fight back. No!!! Every misgiving you have about them is true, and not only should you stand your ground, but you should also start maiming them!!!!!
Oromis's mannerisms are respectful, kind, and gentle, but they in no way indicate his actual feelings. It just serves as a guise, while their actions demonstrate that both he and Glaedr don't have a single shred of respect for Eragon. They don't trust him, they don't put faith in him, they don't care about his wellbeing, and they have so much contempt for him. And they do all that while they take everything from Eragon, demanding he sacrifice himself constantly, and not always just in the interest of beating the Empire! In some cases it's solely an expression of their resentment of him or a way to cut away at the parts of him they don't like.
And Eragon gives them everything, so earnestly and generously. Then they give him jack shit. They only give him whatever suits their intention to use him as a weapon, and even in that, they pick and choose things to withhold according to their disdain for him. Contempt is all he gets in return for his trust and loyalty.
And it makes me sad how Saphira isn't there for him in this. In her defense, she's very young and they harm her also by prioritizing her utility to them over anything else, which she sadly does not recognize either. But beyond that, the elves and Oromis and Glaedr specifically treat her far, far better than they treat Eragon. She's in no way responsible for their actions, but there are places where she enables the abuse. Most often through overlooking it, but sometimes when Eragon rightfully balks at their mistreatment, then turns to Saphira for her input, she tells him, "I trust them and I think you should be deferring to them."
Eragon is so earnest and compassionate and he deserves care, both in the form of other people caring about his wellbeing, and also through the chance for him to learn how he can and should care for himself. Yet at the end of the series, he's so conditioned to accept manipulation and abuse and I just want my poor boy to have a chance to rest and HEAL 😭
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bloodyrosemisaki · 3 months
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Been doing a re-read of the Inheritance Cycle and gems like this just *chef's kiss*
I couldn't stop laughing at this!
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nailsinmywall · 1 year
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eragon (inheritance cycle) ⚔️
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yourlocaldragondealer · 10 months
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TIC signatures
I was bored
Eragon:
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he learned how to write when he was fifteen. You cant convince me he wouldnt take the easy route and write in capital letters. Also i think hed really care about legibility.
Nasuada:
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She also wants to make it legible and Ajihad always made her write in cursive so she still does that a little. Nothing too fancy tho bc she has to write it multiple times a day and doesnt want to bother
Arya:
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Shes a lefty and ill die on that hill. She also doesnt rly care too much about it but likes the swing she can do with the A bc she cant do it in elvish. (This got a little ugly, i had to write it like seven times before it looked good)
Murtagh:
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Totally the person to practice his signature. Writes really straight and with tall letters. Cares more about the Look than legibility but its legible enough. Really doesnt like signing contracts anymore tho, for… obvious reasons.
Brom:
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Illegible except for the first letter. No fucks left, not after a century of this. The tired parent signing their kids test without even taking a look at the grade (eragon failed grammar again).
Oromis:
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Knows how to write in human/dwarfen letters but is unused to it. Tries his best anyways and it actually looks really good. Very round letters, smears his i dots
Galby:
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Used to be very fancy about it but is getting a little lazy. Still dramatic enough for the big lines in the t and the x tho.
Bonus: Angela
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Doesnt like giving signatures (it wastes her time bc no one knows her real name and she definitely wont reveal it for something this boring so the signature will be worthless anyways) but if someone makes her she’s going to waste her their time like theyre wasting hers and take an eternity drawing flourishes around it. Probably even more than i did. Normally only gives strange warnings or hexes the parchment or something tho bc she just doesnt like it.
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laurikarauchscat · 7 months
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I am not "missing the point" of the character.
I know it's there. I acknowledged it ages ago. It's beautiful.
What I'm doing right now is shamelessly mutating it to suit my own needs.
Because I can.
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glbtrx · 10 months
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All of this is so difficult because everyone wants to eat, but no one wants to be eaten. - Saphira Bjartskular, Inheritance
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Do not become so attached to any one belief that you cannot see past it to another possibility. - Brom, Brisingr
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If you don’t make a few enemies every now and then, you’re a coward! - Angela the Herbalist, Inheritance
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Sometimes it's harder to follow than to lead. - Nasuada, Brisingr
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My mind is the only sanctuary that has not been stolen from me. Men have tried to breach it before, but I've learned to defend it vigorously, for I am only safe with my innermost thoughts. - Murtagh Morzansson, Eldest
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The greatest enemy is the one who has nothing to lose. - Eragon Shadeslayer
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A good compromise leaves everyone angry. - Ajihad, Eldest
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Books are my friends, my companions. They make me laugh and cry and gives a meaning to my life. - Jeod Longshanks
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The monsters of the mind are far worse than those that actually exist. - Arya Dröttningu, Brisingr
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No one is innocent. Everyone is guilty of something. - Galbatorix, Inheritance
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History provides us with numerous examples of people who were convinced that they were doing the right thing and committed terrible crimes because of it. - Oromis, Eldest
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The trick is to find happiness in the brief gaps between disasters. - Roran Stronghammer, Brisingr
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If I may be arrogant enough to offer advice, I’ve found that it’s essential for my sanity to allocate a certain portion of the day for my own interests. - King Orrin
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While two may share two, and one of two is certainly one, one might be two. - Blagden, Eldest
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Never ask an elf for help; they might decide you're better off dead, eh? - Orik
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rhearedrising · 2 months
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It makes absolutely no sense to me that with all the wards and magic around Naegling, Oromis’ sword, there wouldn’t be a spell to make sure it stayed close to Oromis’ body?? Especially when the whole point was for it to store energy and protections that Oromis himself couldn’t because of his neurological disorder…did the question of whether Oromis would drop his sword during a seizure never ever occur to anyone?! I don’t believe it. I don’t believe it! They would have had some sort of protection for it. The fact that the sword just DROPS when he needs it most should not be allowed!!! sorry but I don’t believe you!!!!
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lords-of-the-empire · 7 months
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This kind of dialogue is how I imagine people lying to, or rather deceiving, one another in the Ancient Language. A criminal lack of this kind of doublespeak in elvish politics tbh.
Explanation: Palpatine had a world bombarded from orbit to destroy a bunch of cloning facilities to replace the clone soldiers with other troops, but the ships got filmed doing it. This is him turning the tables and getting what he wants. How it'd work in the Ancient Language:
"I am deeply troubled by this recent revelation." statement of fact, he's troubled it got leaked rather than by it's existence though.
"My gratitude to Senator (however you spell it) for exposing a rogue element within our ranks." he's happy she and her allies outed themselves.
"Many lives have been lost. But I assure you, Admiral Rampart will face the consequences for his treachery. However, he did not act alone." statement of fact, statement of fact, statement of fact.
"The fact that the clones under his command so blindly follow orders, inflicting such carnage without hesitation, gives me pause." possibly why he wanted to get rid of them in the first place, and otherwise he might have just been surprised by how effective the indoctrination (and in that canon, brain-chips) was.
"Perhaps... it is time for a change." perhaps, then again, perhaps not :)
I imagine this is how Galbatorix convinced the Forsworn to side with him as well; pick out people seething over real or imagined slights and go Palpatine them. It's also what I expected from how people hyped up the elves as these masters of wordplay in book 1 and early book 2.
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bilboscanoes · 3 months
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not to be dramatic but NOTHING in the past year has made me cry as much as oromis' passing. okay wait i lied sad boy passing might still win but i mean it when i say that it was written and overall executed PERFECTLY and glaedr's pain alone was enough to make me cry for at least ten long minutes and im still sitting here, tears in my eyes, unable to finish the last ten pages of the damn book because. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MOVE ON.
and yes in a way brom's death was more meaningful and yes ive cried because of it but when he died we didnt yet fully know his full role in the series so i at least was not able to grieve him as much as he "deserved" immediately when he died. as weve found out what he reslly meanr ive cried a lot but with oromis' death we already know all there is to know about this dude (at least i think so) and glaedr's pain and the setting and everything- i just cant stop the tears it is so moving.
brom also didnt leave a lonely dragon after him since he had already lost his love, in fact BOTH his loves, so even though the whole community was left to miss him he ultimately got to leave the sorrow of living without your soulmates whereas oromis left glaedr to suffer this sorrow.
but all in all id like to thank christopher paolini for executing his passing so perfectly. even though the reading experience was cruel (and i have yet to find out what really happens to glaedr) i havent read a scene of someones passing this fulfilling like. ever. and im a boromir girlie. i felt as every word filled my body one after another and how my body took the shape oromis' and glaedr's pain as its own. and it was terribly sad but so beautiful and fulfilling. admittedly its a little peculiar to call the loss of someone and the HUGE hole he left in all our hearts fulfilling but in the end that is what it was, for me at least. it took over my existence, thats how touching it was.
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overlordmorzan · 9 months
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Modern reincarnation Oromis having a hot vinyasa yoga studio!
But also having classes focused on accessible yoga, working with people with injuries and disabilities. Yoga is for everyone.
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alagaesia-headcanons · 4 months
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you know, we have only Oromis words to tell how was Morzan when he was a kid, how can we be sure that he doesn't' exaggerate? Morzan was a rebellious kid, who could be rude and maybe cruel? A lot of kids can be cruels, it's doesn't mean they're fully bad from the start. I just think that Morzan had need of a parental figure who would correct his attitude and would CARE for him, because it what Oromis should have been: a teacher AND a parental figure since the kid was 10 when he took him.
YES THIS I 100% agree with you!! Forgive me for the very long rant I’m about to go on because I have many thoughts about Morzan that I’ve wanted to get down for a long while now. I find it super interesting to interpret that he wasn’t entirely malicious or irredeemable from the outset.
I really, REALLY don’t like the old order of Riders. From all the things we learn about them, they had a seriously objectionable system. The way they took human kids when they were 10 years old and then left them to the discretion of people like Oromis is brazen evidence of that. I’m really intrigued by the possibility that at least one of the Forsworn joined Galbatorix to dismantle the Riders out of a genuine aversion to their abuse and a desire to put an end to it and build something better, not just from a personal lust for power.
Given the way Galbatorix talks to Oromis and Nasuada, I think he would have presented his intentions that way to distract from his real deranged vengefulness. It would have fascinating implications for any of the Forsworn to have truly fallen for that, and then as the consequences of their actions fully unfold and Galbatorix becomes an even worse tyrant, for that Forsworn to burn with regret and resentment and hatred towards him. It would make for such an interesting dynamic during the Empire’s reign. I just want one disloyal Forsworn who hates Galbatorix because they feel tricked and used, it’d be cool!!!
Admittedly, Morzan is the only one of the Forsworn we have any background for at all, so it doesn’t mean much to say he’s the best fit, but the backstory we do have can potentially line up with that role very well. Morzan was very young when he met Galbatorix, and thus inexperienced and impressionable. He spent more time with him and would have been exposed to a lot more of his manipulation. And I think he would have reason to be predisposed against the Riders before they met, a resentment Galbatorix could have fueled for his own benefit.
I’ve made it no secret how much I loathe Oromis. Tbh the fact that Morzan spent years training under him is a huge reason why I’m able to sympathize with him lmao. I would also start killing people. That man could have never given the necessary care and tolerance and emotional support to a ten year old, but it seems like the new Riders were entrusted entirely to their mentors. We see how horribly Oromis mistreats Eragon and how that affects him even when he’s sixteen- his callous neglect inflicted on ten year old children is a disaster waiting to happen, especially if any of those kids weren’t well cared for to begin with.
Also, this is slightly pedantic, but when Oromis is talking about Morzan, he specifically says that he “grew so proud and cruel,” which implies that this issue was less significant or not there at all when he first took Morzan. His harmful behaviors apparently developed over time which should be addressed and cared for by whoever’s raising him. Oromis is the only one in a position to raise him and he still turns a blind eye to Morzan.
In my headcanons, Morzan grew up impoverished and neglected. He doesn’t know what fair and caring treatment looks like and so he also can’t identify Oromis’s abuse, but its impact is compounding on an already present wound. Morzan is starving to make something of himself because no one has acknowledged and loved him for who he already is, which makes for a horribly volatile mixture with Oromis’s penchant for demanding his students prove themselves against an arbitrary and merciless standard. Morzan’s susceptibility to Oromis’s pressure makes him viciously desperate to prove himself, intensely competitive, and highly reactive to disapproval. It creates a perception of inadequacy that bleeds into everything Morzan does.
When he’s unpressured and at ease, Morzan’s nature is actually quite reserved, slow, passive, and methodical, but he is so, so easily incensed. Because he’s so fixated on proving himself, he assumes everyone initially holds a very low opinion of him and that’s what necessitates he fight for approval. He just can’t fathom receiving acceptance, respect, or care without proving he deserves it, and so he’s perpetually clawing for more. And falling short feels so devastating because he’s never been shown his worth beyond people’s expectations.
To me, that’s why he ends up attached to someone like Brom, who idolizes and defers to him. For Morzan, it would feel like his endless efforts to prove himself have actually proven something. Because he thinks he has to earn love, Brom’s affection would also feed into Morzan’s ego, providing a long desired vindication. The fact that Oromis trains both of them makes their relationship so much worse. I feel like his relatively positive relationship with Brom could have balanced out and helped Morzan adjust with time, but there’s an unfortunate competitive aspect at play. As Morzan scrambles for Oromis’s approval, now Brom is also being trained and the differences between them present another metric that could make Morzan seem lesser. So he puts Brom down and fights against him for their master’s care and validation like they’re limited commodities.
I think, over time, Morzan comes to recognize elements of Oromis’s abuse. He simply doesn’t have the energy to constantly struggle for his approval forever, and as that starts to run dry, it reveals some things. He resents that Oromis belittles his struggles and only values efforts that yield the results he wants, so he stops putting in the effort. If Morzan still doesn’t matter to him after trying so hard, why should he keep trying? He hates that Oromis can never give a true justification for the standards he demands they reach, and he starts ignoring them. He despises how he lies when says he cares for him and wants the best for him, because he prioritized his utility to the Riders over his well being in every moment since they met.
So, when he meets Galbatorix, Morzan is bitterly resentful and disillusioned. He joins him out of desire for revenge on Oromis and to tear down the system that abandoned him to his abuse. I do believe Morzan genuinely loved Brom in a certain way, despite his mistreatment, and he starts trying to incite him against Oromis not solely because of his own vindictiveness but also out of concern for Brom. As Galbatorix’s plans start to move, Morzan balks and begins seriously doubting him, even more so as the scope of slaughter unfolds, but he swallows his misgivings and stays determined to recruit Brom to the winning side. When one of the Forsworn kills the first Saphira despite Morzan’s insistence they be spared, he’s vehemently outraged. I think of Galbatorix’s disinterest in his uproar as the turning point in Morzan’s loyalty to him. As the Empire takes form, that disloyalty solidifies and Morzan hates Galbatorix for being even more cruel, manipulative, and uncaring than the people he wanted revenge on. Galbatorix tolerates it because forcing his vengeful resentment into subservience gratifies his sadistic impulse.
Now all of this is well within the realm of extrapolation and interpretation- none of these details directly suggest this version of Morzan’s character and motivations. They give the potential, but not real support, and they can just as easily be seen in any number of different ways. However, there is one single thing that actually grounds this in canon, which is that Morzan was a name-slave from very early on. When Eragon is telling Murtagh about the chance to change his true name and challenges his hesitation, Murtagh says, “[Galbatorix] has been creating name-slaves for over a hundred years, ever since he recruited our father.”
This detail fascinates me. There is the possibility that it’s a lie, but I can’t imagine Murtagh would make it up considering how much distaste he expresses towards his father. And I don’t think it would make sense for Galbatorix to lie to Murtagh about it either. If he didn’t actually have control over Morzan’s name then, claiming he did would discredit that real loyalty Morzan would have had to feel for him and his cause to do everything of his own free will. I think it’s the truth. Galbatorix learned Morzan’s true name more than a hundred years ago, before the fall, when he recruited him- which, to me, feels like before Morzan even helped him steal Shruikan’s egg.
Morzan either knew his true name already or Galbatorix went through his mind to find out, and the latter seems far more likely. Given the way Morzan’s described: young, arrogant, weak minded- I highly doubt he knew and the way Murtagh brings this up implies Galbatorix’s skill at uncovering names. Morzan either felt so loyal to Galbatorix at that point that he willingly let him in his mind, he was coerced into agreeing to it, or Galbatorix did it by force.
This still doesn’t mean Morzan wanted to dismantle the broken parts of the Riders instead of fully destroying them and that Galbatorix manipulated him into starting a war he found appalling- but it makes that idea much more feasible. If Morzan did realize Galbatorix’s intentions weren’t what he said and that he didn’t want to take things so far, he couldn’t back out. Any reluctance or disagreement would have been overridden and things would unfold exactly how they did.
I think Morzan was wounded and angry and starving for true respect and care that lured him to Galbatorix, and the precarious pride he clung to made him look away from the severity of Galbatorix’s actions. Then he realized his desperation was preyed upon only when it was far too late.
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archangelsunited · 1 year
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modern-inheritance · 3 months
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Getting Snippy
Someone's sleep deprived, pissed off, looking for a distraction, and just witnessed Eragon go through two seizures during blades training. Gee, I wonder who that could be!
(not Brom, he's at the bottom of a bottle somewhere because he's having his own undisclosed issues that we will indeed one day go over but it is not this day.)
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“I want to help with finding a cure for Eragon’s seizures.”
If she hadn’t known them for her entire life Arya would have missed it. Something flickered across Oromis’s face. Glaedr’s deep breaths hitched for millisecond. 
Disbelief colored her voice. “You’re not even looking for one, are you?”
The ancient Rider placed his pen down and stifled the sigh that was building in his throat. “Their training is taking more time away from–”
“Oromis, what the FUCK!” Arya slammed her hands down on the table. How! How could they be so selfish! How could they stand there and watch Eragon, a kid, barely old enough to fucking drink, suffer through that day after day, destroying himself for them. For a war he didn’t choose. Watch Saphira try to protect him, fail every time, blame herself. 
Oromis’ grey eyes flashed with thunderclouds, his voice sharp in warning. “You forget yourself, Dröttningu.”
The younger elf shoved off the table at the use of her inherited title and flicked her hand in a very old, very recognizable elvish gesture of insult. Her words came in a snapped, exasperated snarl. “Oh, BITE ME!” 
Oromis’ eyebrows shot up. Glaedr’s building growl was interrupted by a choked snort before it started again.
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magicandmundane · 1 year
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Oromis and Glaedr, teaching Eragon and Saphira about combat: You know, fighting another dragon and Rider is really dangerous, so be very careful. 
Oromis and Glaedr, fighting Murtagh and Thorn: *air horn noises* Get fucked!
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reddeaddevil · 5 months
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“Love can be a terrible curse, Eragon. It can make you overlook even the largest flaws in a person's behavior.” ~ Oromis
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glbtrx · 9 months
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Galbatorix, trying to make Oromis join the Empire: I have changed, Oromis. Of the fire that burned in me only the ashes remain; I did terrible things when I was young, but now I bitterly regret them and-
Galbatorix: PFFT- I can't even say it with a straight face-
Oromis: fuck you
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