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battybiologist · 6 months
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Playing the Original Trilogy Ace Attorney games back to back, it really struck me as early as 2-2 how much Franziska is very bad at the whole "Demon Prosecutor" schtick
What made Edgeworth so tough isn't just how he would run logic circles around you, but also because he shut down every line of inquiry that was not directly related to the case and substantiated with hard evidence. His one weakness was that he still followed the due proceedings of court and the Judge's rulings without a fuss. And, you know, that he still had morals
Manfred von Karma is on a whole other level. He's even more ruthless than Edgeworth, but he's also so intimidating that he essentially takes over as judge in the beginning, and his moral compass was surgically removed because it hurt his shoulder.
But Franziska, while she also controls the social dynamics of the court, lets so much shit fly that Edgeworth would not. If he was the prosecutor, he would have needed hard evidence that Pearl was in the Winding Path, and he definitely wouldn't have let him badger Ini about the sports car she drove all those years ago.
Hell, Edgeworth's most common dirty tactic in the first game is concluding a cross-examination before you can squeeze the info out of the witness. And just in 2-2, Franziska lets, and sometimes forces, the cross-examinations to continue, even when said cross-examination reveals she was concealing evidence.
Even Winston Payne, the jobber prosecutor par excellence, is more ruthless than her IIRC, as in he tried to conclude a trial early before Phoenix could finish his reasoning, whereas the Judge literally tried to declare Maya guilty and Franziska objected
You could interpret this behaviour in many ways. In fact, Phoenix even gives us his own: he thinks she's being arrogant, à la "hit me with your best shot". It would track, as she's been pretty arrogant up until now, but I think it's a little shallow.
My own interpretation goes a little deeper into Franziska's character: We know Franziska has been raised by Manfred "my card PIN is 0001 because I'm number 1" von Karma to believe perfection is the ultimate goal. She HATES lying witnesses, but is perfectly fine with "preparing" testimonies. She's the most volatile and youngest prosecutor to date. Lastly, she felt pressure to live up to the von Karma name all her life, but when her father died, she was more concerned with Edgeworth's presumed death than it
My conclusion: Franziska's truest desire pre-character development is to win fair and square, but because she associates her father with victory, she forces herself to emulate him and tries to play dirty. All of her Manfred-like tactics are done outside of court, where she would be able to think it over, letting her conditioning kick in. But in the thick of legal battle, especially facing Phoenix Wright, who thrives on hectic trials, she would let her heart decide what to do.
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deadguydeathmatch · 1 year
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Dead Guy Death Match Round 4 Poll: 3
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okayish-dependent · 3 months
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Abusive and exploitative relationships really are such a huge theme in this game, aren't they? So many of the culprits were exploiting or abusing others before they became murders...Redd White with his blackmailing company, Morgan Fey with her daughter, Dee Vasquez using her subordinate, Dahlia Hawthorne fucking over so many people...
There really is something to be said about how the culprits in these cases might never have become culprits at all had thier bad behavior not gone unchecked for such a long time.
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gasstationclown · 1 year
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every time that phoenix asserts in a case that there couldve been another person at the crime scene than just the victim and the defendant i think about in apollo justices first case where phoenix does the same and kristoph says smth like "maybe a forth? or a fifth?"
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stacks-of-stags · 10 months
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stop framing prosecutors for murder challenge
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violexides · 2 years
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HI HI HI OMG YOU FINISHED THE ACE ATTORNEY TRILOGY FUCK YEAHHHH THAT GAME IS ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT EVER!!!!!!! TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS!!!! WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE CASES? WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE WRIGHTWORTH MOMENT? WHO ARE YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTERS? THOUGHTS ON BISEXUAL DISASTER INCREDIBLY LOVABLE MAIN CHARACTER PHOENIX WRIGHT?
HEY LOG okay i have to answer quick cos i got somewhere to be in 10 min BUT!!! bro i was so excited to see that u were watching AA too like!!!! we nearly finished it in the same time area that's crazy :o
OKAY YEAH YEHA YEAH OKAY!!!!!!! FAVE CASES obviously all the last cases bc AA slays with ending the games on such a cool note, i'm also pretty fond of turnabout:reunion WHICH DOES NOT GET THE REP IT DESERVES!!!! Such a huge fan of turnabout reunion fr i think it's so fascinating it's such a mindfuck and it's so COOL!!!!
FAVE WRIGHTWORTH MOMENTS my friend you wound me by making me pick... the part in the last case where Edgeworth says "I leave the rest in your capable hands... partner" which is what Iris had told him but also the usage of partner is so important to me, it's a term of endearment but it also describes the way that him and Wright are, that the two of them have this companionship and have been in each other's lives for that long that of course they're partners, maybe not lovers yet maybe not boyfriends but partners is a term that fits so right. also that parallel with iris was super cool. other moments I liked was Edgeworth realizing the work it takes to be a defense attorney and the toll it must have on Phoenix, and also just the urgency when he found out Phoenix was injured. ur honor they're friends <3 and also in love. yk
FAVE CHARACTERS okay i'm excluding the main crew bc that goes without saying but. I love Lana Skye, Adrian Andrews, Desirée Delite, Godot, and Iris! I really connect with Lana Skye for a LOT of reasons, Adrian is just.... my girlfriend and i also relate to her LOL. Desirée is such a fun character and just makes me happy. Godot made me burst into tears several times yesterday so one could say i'm a fan. and i think Iris is just... a fascinating fascinating character
MASSIVE FAN OF PHOENIX WRIGHT: BISEXUAL DISASTER!!! Talked to my sibling abt this but phoenix wright is such a good protagonist like. he's both relatable but also distinctive and also capable but also not perfect and i think that's what makes him so endearing and so easy to get in the mindset of. he loves his friends and believes so deeply in everyone and he's sarcastic but also an idealist and he just. he's reckless and caring and smart and he's so important to me <3
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starlyte-writes · 2 years
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I’m sorry I will not recover from that last post who the FUCK is shipping TOW MATER with FATHER KILLING PIECE OF SHIT MANFRED VON KARMA-
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oodlyenough · 1 month
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average twitter exchange
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kiashieart · 3 months
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"Sorry I took so long"
[ post prison diego: I don't think he went to Mia's grave when he was Godot, i think he probably didn't believe he deserved to when he woke up. after so many years he'll finally be ready :) ]
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distanttraceofbeauty · 5 months
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"phoenix's type is accused murderers" "phoenix's type is people he thinks he can fix/save" wrong. phoenix's type is this
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chibigaia-art · 28 days
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comic I made for the 7 year gap zine! leftover sale is ongoing :>
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drakkonyan · 1 month
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i like thinking im funny
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deadguydeathmatch · 1 year
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Dead Guy Death Match Round 3 Poll: 6
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ema-sahdmadhi · 8 days
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"It seems you've had quite a life..." - Ema Skye, 6-5 Day 1 Investigation
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songthursh · 7 months
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Also a sunflower, because @stupidlynx have amazing songs for these two ///
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californianedgeworth · 9 months
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everyday they get closer to figuring it out on their own
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