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spurgie-cousin · 11 months
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ok my mom understandably had to go to bed (very late here in her time zone, and it's even an hour later in the one I'm used to) but I'm a mental masochist so I will trudge on until I can't physically watch Shiny Happy People anymore (and I'm just going to edit my comments instead of reblog bc so far there's really not a lot most of us aren't aware of):
- firstly, I knew Deanna was raised Christian but I didn't know she was raised VERY conservative Christian. Per Deanna, this is the reason Amy was allowed so much freedom; she didn't want to limit her as a female in any of the ways she was
- going off of that, I can see how that foundation would open Jim Bob up to a religion that is so insanely misogynistic
- I know it's a thing all of us who've been around a while have known, but it's all but explicitly said that the Duggar kids had any steal of rebellious beat out of them. By Michelle, regardless of what she sounds like.
- I can't help but wonder if this is the reason Michelle sticks so closely to this faith, even after all that's happened. Even as her own children have expressed how abusive their upbringing was. Leaving the ideology means admitting you were an abuser and not an educator.
- Jill felt like she lied in the Megyn Kelly interview. She didn't want to do it and said she wouldn't have without her parents urging, and she felt obligated to protect her family. She didn't want to do this interview, but didn't trust anyone else to tell the truth which, given her upbringing, I totally get.
- the interviews with other ex-IBLP kids are just as fascinating to listen to as Jill's (if not more bc a lot of them WANT to be there). Tia Levings in particular is so incredibly brave and wonderful, please follow her your preferred platform ❤️
- Mike Huckabee is an accomplice to abuse and ped*philia at best
- I know Derick can be insufferable but I promise he's worth listening to in this doc, at least so far (I'm halfway through episode 3). And he's a very serious Jill advocate, which I feel like all the Duggar girls need so badly.
- Jill didn't want anyone at her birth because SHE DIDN'T WANT TOO GO THROUGH WHAT ANNA WENT THROUGH. She agreed to a diary cam at most.
- For that work they did during their babies birth, the Dillards requested not a full paycheck, but a small health insurance renumeration fee from TLC, who asked them to do this work. TLC informed then that they had already paid all sums to Jim Bob.
- Jill has never received any amount of payment from TLC for all the time and work she had given them. Neither had Derick.
- this is probably a NO DUH for us around here, but here is a short list of IBLP/ATI approved lives of training, especially for minors who are doing work for free for other members of the organization (i believe the Bates kids are included in some of the pictures accompanyingthis part):
1. CoNSTrUCTioN!!!
2. Cosmetology (women only of course)
3. Ministry
4. Business?
5. Healthcare consultant
6. ALERT counselor
Secular college courses so not apply to accreditation in these fields
- other ex-IBLP members confirm that children were trained in construction trades and child labor was used gratuitously in the organization, for anything from repairs, to setting up conferences, to building actual buildings. And it was all, of course, free.
- ALERT confirmed as a purposeful paramilitary organization
- am ex-IBLP woman who was sent to ALERT states that they took tampons away from her, as they were a form of purity violation (she says they said she had purposefully taken her own virginity by using them).
- a woman raised in IBLP recounts a story at a conference in Oklahoma City where her roommate almost slit her throat with a knife over being a 'glutton'. Essentially, a teenage girl almost killed herself over not being thin enough to be 'godly'.
- David Green, the CEO of Hobby Lobby, is STILL IBLP's biggest donor. Don't fucking shop there!!!!
- a purposefully sanitized version of Bill Gothard's teachings have been and might still be used in elementary schools, prisons, police and military units as a way of indoctrinating those in attendance to be more open to absolute authority.
- All of the kids besides Jill & Derick might've very well signed a very lengthy contract that extends at least a decade. The Dillards didn't, and have received extreme yet Christian-flavored threats over it???
- The Dillards were using a food bank even after they asked Jim Bob for the most basic payment for their services to the show
- Jill, Derick, and others all agree tha Journey To The Heart was a vetting mechanism for Gothard's abuse victims
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countingandsnarkingon · 11 months
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Do you think Jim Bob and Michelle would have thrown their support behind any of the other kids if they were the ones who caused big scandals and led to the family tv show being cancelled not once but twice?
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warmhappycat · 1 year
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Is it finally happening!?
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uwudonoodle · 3 months
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skellybonesandtrees · 10 months
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redneck-phd · 11 months
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Shiny Happy People Podcast
I’m happy to share that my spouse, Andrew, myself and our friend Jeff are hosting a podcast review of each episode of the new Prime Duggar documentary Shiny Happy People. The documentary was released on Amazon Friday, June 2, 2023, and is a four-part series looking into not only the Duggar family, but the underlying theology of their show and the influence of conservative, Christian leaders such…
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fundieinfoplace · 4 days
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Info!!!!
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Confirmation on baby boy Duggar's name Ezra and Baby Swanson 10's name is Dallas.
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fundieshaderoom · 3 months
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Mama Hilary Criticizes the Insurance Plan Jinger is Advertising (Under her IG Post)
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transvampireboyfriend · 7 months
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while I do appreciate survivors owning their stories when exposing the abuse that takes place in cults, I really wish the mainstream media around it spent more time focusing on how they got out and how they found light and love in the outside world and how it was hard as fuck too. I wish they spent less time rehashing the abuse and more time in the repercussions of that abuse and how they live with trauma.
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reduxskullduggerry · 11 months
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just watched shiny happy people and it was an ok docuseries overall (if you don't know it's a documentary about the duggar family and fundamentalism/IBLP/Bill Gothard more generally), but as with other documentaries in this style, it often heavily covers the aspects of misogyny, patriarchy, and abuse (which are very important to cover!), but really only minimally focuses (if at all) on the depth to which Christian fundamentalism is at its core about advancing white supremacy and white supremacist goals. Like they spend an episode talking about how the purpose of families having as many children as possible is to push them into conservative leadership (with the ultimate goal of creating Christian theocracy), but they only focus on how they want to pass like anti-abortion stuff not their assuredly racist positions otherwise. Like focusing solely on the narratives and abuse of white women (and some white men) from the perspective of these people means that you only hear their limited perspective on the situation. Which means they've grown enough to understand how this religion/cult/sect oppressed them but not anyone different from them. non-white people are almost entirely absent from the series outside of when white people go/have gone on mission trips and the documentary makers never confront the people who they interviewed who've gone on mission trips about the neocolonialism they're engaging in through these trips. Even from the perspective of you've spent your whole life hearing this narrative of Christianity that you know is fucked up and terrible for you, but then you think you've unlearned all of this enough to go give christian teachings to others without perpetuating these same narratives?? Like one (professor?) guy mentions racism all of once and it's like?? I also feel like the documentary makers in spite of how political this documentary is fail to address the politics of those they are interviewing. They interview several people close to the duggar family/are in the duggar family who are like still very conservative and present their narrative uncritically. anyway in conclusion, documentaries on institutions like iblp and the catholic church etc often focus solely on the oppression faced by white women and children in that institution without examining the larger context of white supremacy and racism that kind of patriachy is based in and they should change that
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spurgie-cousin · 28 days
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wtffundiefamilies · 7 months
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It just occurred to me, that JimBob was apparently always going on about how Sweet Jilly Muffin was the most like Michelle of all the girls.
But when Michelle was asked which of her kids was most like her, her answer was always Joy-Anna, and later on, Johannah.
Makes you wonder if JimBob has ever had a foot in reality.
Personally from show footage alone I'd think Jessa is the most like Michelle...but then Michelle has never seemed "sweet" to me. (And that's no insult.)
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thefundiemuseum · 2 months
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JD + Abbie are in California for a helicopter expo (did you know those exist? I didn't), so they're hanging out with the Vuolos.
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I notice Abbie is now taking pics that don't show the kids' faces.
Also, I am tickled by the Easter dress in their CostCo cart because I have a daughter the same age as Grace, and I have 100% bought an Easter dress from CostCo. Those dresses are hella cute, and my husband has to redirect me whenever we pass the hangers of tiny people clothes.
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gxlden-angels · 10 months
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Love when fundamentalist christians call other fundamentalist christians a cult like I can accept telling children they'll go to hell if they don't hug the parent that spanked them and smile, but I draw the line at suggesting barcodes contain the mark of the beast
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watching Shiny Happy People and geez louise this is NOT an excuse for the duggars but there is a crapton of subtle implication being wielded by these doc producers
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fundieinfoplace · 8 months
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Breaking News: Baby Beckett is Baby Justus!
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Sadly Paul's mom died but we've been given a name to Joseph and Kendra's 4th Baby.
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