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#the timeline of events is a bit fucked up but idk i thought this was funny
audhd-nightwing · 11 months
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okay but like
miguel’s situation was entirely different from miles’ and like every other spider’s
bro found a different universe and took the place of the (dead) version of himself ?? and so like it makes sense that that universe got destroyed because That’s Not Supposed To Happen bro, you don’t get to fuck with the space time continuum like that
it was entirely miguel’s own fault for going to and staying in another universe
for pavitr, miles, gwen, etc. all the “canon events” that “have to happen”- where does that come from? because it is sure as hell not what happened to miguel
not to mention miles was right when he said the reason pavitr’s universe was being destroyed was because of Spot, not because he changed some supposed “fixed event” in the timeline
(plus we see pavitr later on in the movie and it seems like everything is fine? i’m not entirely sure but i don’t think he would be there if his entire universe was just destroyed yk)
maybe i’m oversimplifying this but idk i just don’t get how miguel goes from purposefully living in a different universe and it eventually being destroyed (because you were never meant to be there in the first place dumbass) to him creating some weird “algorithm” of events that are “supposed to happen”
like miles said, what proof is there? because miguel’s thing is an entirely different situation to a spider-person losing (or not losing) someone close to them. i’m sure we’ll see in the 3rd movie that once Spot is dealt with, pavitr’s universe will be fine and that will be that basis for proving the algorithm is bullshit
ALSO, i don’t believe that blond peter wouldn’t have died if miles got bit. like miles was not the reason peter died, he barely affected that fight. if miles hadn’t been bit there would probably end up being NO spider-man in that universe, having it end up like Earth-42 (where the spider is from)
anyway idk if any of this makes sense but yeah these are my thoughts on across the spiderverse
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ourflagmeansgayrights · 7 months
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ofmd s2e3 rewatch where i pause to jot down my thoughts and other random shit
squeezing this one in riiiiight before the next two eps drop lol. anyway these posts are about me processing these episodes and if you want to read them then that's cool too. but fair warning this is gonna be a fucking mess.
s2e1, s2e2, s2e3, s2e4, s2e5, s2e6, s2e7, s2e8
show opens on zheng leading a raid and INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. this might be the first time we've seen a raid where like. the background music is kinda moody. and what's odd is that it has like the same level of comedically over-the-top violence and characters just having a casual conversation as like, the e5 cold open. but there's sad piano and strings doing tremolo in the background. i have no idea what this means.
god. zheng is so fucking hot.
i love olu's "no, no, sorry, bruv." and the FACE HE MAKES AFTER!!! so good
olu's a feminist
ZHENG IS SO FUCKING HOT
~champers?~ stede you are such a dork. i need to pinch ur cheeks.
yeah fuck the english!!
zheng saying "everyone's cracking down on the little guy" makes me wonder if the show is gonna do anything abt how the end of the golden age of piracy was like. a year off. which i only know from reading a few fics where the authors incorporated that into the plot. and there was the one trailer where we see zheng in jackie's bar while stede's giving everyone a speech so yknow what that might be where all this is going. big pirate battle at the end of the season, right?
another thing ive been wondering abt tho is just how much is this show gonna completely fuck with history. because like. is zheng yi sao gonna conquer the fucking caribbean. are we just going completely off the rails re: historical accuracy and inventing entire major historical events?? like crocs and pinocchio and pirates from different historical periods all existing at the same time and in the same place is one thing but if the characters like. overthrow england. then ofmd just straight-up exists in an alternate timeline at that point.
stede "the gentleman pirate kills with kindness" bonnet being so impressed with zheng is so cute to me tho
fhsjkgdhfushl oh my god when zheng snaps her fingers and stede hurries to refill drinks the other captain guy grins and flashes finger guns at stede and this is SO fucking funny to me
zheng being like "noooo it's stupid teehee" tucking her hair behind her ears ALSO very funny to me
whose job was it to make the letter N out of caviar for the title card in this episode bc it looks fantastic. got little serifs and everything
stede taking his towel duties VERY seriously and just. dropping them on zheng's desk for no reason. even olu is like "stede what the fuck are you doing"
obsessed with the running gag of stede being like "i always say that!" and other characters being like "no you fucking dont"
stede having zero impulse control and seeing the abacus and just being like "hey what the hell is this thing" and shaking it around. me too, king.
i wont lie tho part of me wonders if stede like. going overboard with towel duty and messing shit up is on purpose. like is he playing dumb so zheng lets her guard down just in case he needs her to think he's completely helpless?? bc at the end of the episode he does get one over on her and i assume it's partly bc she underestimated him. or am i just reading too much into it lol.
but idk it's weird that olu's like "ok stede zheng is busy" and stede's just like "im gonna shake this thing now teehee"
WAIT ALSO backtracking a bit. why were stede and olu shadowing zheng at the beginning of the episode. i mean olu i get, it's bc she has a crush on him (who can blame her) but what's the in-universe justification for zheng being like "yeah alright white boy u can come too"
stede's gay little run out of the room. GO GET YOUR MAN!!!!
awww the crew all look so sad at how messed up the ship is :( THAT'S THEIR HOME!!!
I KNEW THE GNOSSIENNE NO. 5 WAS GONNA KILL ME WHEN IT SHOWED UP IN S2 BUT THIS WAS TOO FUCKING MUCH. THE WAY IT TRAILS OFF AND WE JUST HEAR THE WIND ECHOING. FUCKINGGGGG CLAWING AT MY EYES
i love that there's knife stuck in the painting guy's dick. stupid gags like that never get old. also if that was izzy it's extra funny like what the fuck did he even do that for
also have we ever actually seen the outside of the door to stede's cabin like this before??? we saw those dutch guys get chased down this hallway but idk about. the door.
the crew is too busy feasting on raw bird like they're extras in a zombie film to hear stede calling for ed. love that.
the two people that the camera focuses on individually are jim and izzy. makes sense bc these are the characters who i think are gonna have the most important shit going on re: the fact that they all tried to kill ed.
stede's painfully awkward smile after "um... hi." i mean honestly tho what the fuck else do you say to walking in on this
oh shit jim was totally about to tell stede what happened tho. and then archie interrupted with "oh shit, you're stede?????"
this must be so fucking funny from archie's perspective tho. must've heard so much abt this guy and now she finally gets to meet the main character of the story she stumbled into about a third of the way through. and he's kinda just some blond guy.
stede sounds so defensive too tho when archie's like "i thought you'd be taller, charismatic, muscly" bc god that's exactly what he thinks he should be. i mean ok stede is charismatic in a very unique way but his whole e1 fantasy of having a beard and being all macho and badass was just putting all his insecurities on blast. and now archie is like "this is the guy blackbeard was so fucked up over?? really????"
shoutout to archie saying "got tired" when theyre all saying ed retired
also why was wee john in this shot. like not even just in the shot he's just sitting RIGHT behind stede listening to the whole thing. he doesn't have a single line.
stede rolling his eyes and ignoring izzy is so good. yes king dont take the bait
oh ok wee john was there so that we can see frenchie go over to him and give him a fist bump in the background while stede walks away to stare off into the distance
eddie on tha beach
piggie!
cave! remember when we were all like "CAVE KISS???? ARE THEY GONNA KISS IN THE CAVE??????" it would be funny if this is it for the cave. just off in the distance for one shot. cant actually tell if this is the cave they were posting pictures of last fall tho and idrc enough to try and figure it out
pig's name is ruthie. ed why did your subconscious name the pig ruthie.
why did ed's subconscious make hornigold tell him "open up for the cargo ship" ed your daddy issues are fucking insane
hornigold fully like rubs ed's chest for a second there. kinda a weird choice there.
"last time i saw you, you said you were gonna flay my skin and feed it back to me" man what is it with these pirates and forced autocannibalism, huh? i think getting flayed would hurt more but skin's probably easier to eat than toes so idk which i'd prefer. no i dont know why im pondering this either
smthng abt how this is ed hallucinating this whole bit where hornigold pinches his nose and force-feeds him soup is so funny to me. it's a metaphor for ed dragging himself kicking and screaming to therapy.
frenchie telling fang to stfu scjgdfchjxgk
fucking incredible line delivery from joel fry through the whole "it's quite hot, im burnin up here! should we go and get some coolin' bevvies?" bit. love it.
uhh line break
also bro auntie is dead-on about the guilt. i dont blame the crew at all for what they did but this + the whole bird-eating sequence bro. they all liked ed. they cared abt him. other than archie, they all knew him as a pretty cool person. like BRO im gonna have to make another post abt this but the trauma of like, someone you liked becoming so suicidal that he puts you in increasingly miserable situations hoping you'll snap and kill him and he keeps escalating it until you have no choice but to kill him for your own safety. but you know he was a funny and chill person before this. and you know he only did this bc he wanted to die. dude this shit is fucking heavy.
anyway cut to jimolu lol
bro what IS going on in towels. i love how stede just passes around towels for smelling. is this something people have done literally ever or is this just so we can have chloroform towels at the end of the episode
sorry i know in the last post i was sort of squinting at the bit where olu forgot how to pronounce china but the was he mispronounces eucalyptus is just so satisfying to hear i cant even be mad abt it
awwwwgh u can tell jim was scared to tell olu abt kissing archie
lmaoooo when jim says "i saw her boobs" olu's head WHIPS around and he's like "oh??" all wide-eyed dbhjgkhdfyjsk
naw im sorry this is cute. this is a cute tealoranges scene. yes it's jim telling olu abt how they hooked up with someone else but bro i LOVE relationships with this kind of comfortable discussion abt sex and abt relationships in general. i mean there's a lot more for them to talk about still but in a worse show this wouldve been a whole screaming match. instead we got jim saying "you're kinda the best friend i tell everything to" and joking about boobs and UGH. it's so cute!!!!
it's also so fucking funny tho. "i saw her boobs" "oh?? okay, nice" "both of them" "nope, too much" WHY IS THAT WHERE HE DRAWS THE LINE HFKHSGJKFKKJFHK
also when did jim see archie's boobs tho. like ok realistically they've seen each other in varying stages of undress just bc it's not that big of a ship and there's only so much privacy. but the funnier answer is that after ed kicked them out of the secret room and a few minutes later a gunshot went off (who did the rest of the crew think pulled the trigger, i wonder) and they think izzy's dead probably. and then jim and archie decided this was a good time to hook up.
wait i forgot abt the nebulous amount of time between the mutiny and stede walking in on them all eating a dead bird. who fucking knows how much time that was tho. but they could've hooked up then i guess
GNOSSIENNE NO. 5 PART 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO. IM SOBBING.
the song gets to play out more in this scene and ohhhh baby i missed this piano piece. also stede looks more annoyed than upset. he's just casually yoinking things out of the wall. and then he sees the ones on the ceiling and is like "really, ed?"
i think i said this in the tags of a gifset but izzy says "don't cry, bonnet" when stede's back is to him and i just think it's funny bc stede literally wasnt crying. he just looked kinda pissed off. izzy continues to not understand ed or stede even a little bit.
also i love how the music changes by just playing a minor chord and then there's like a spooky echo and then. no more background music.
i just realized izzy's crutch is literally just a mop he's holding upside down. this is funny to me for some reason
"he was a wild dog and we dealt with him like one" izzy hands racism moments
why does izzy even lie about this. why does he say "no i could never do that" when literally he did. he looked right at ed's face as jim hit it with a fucking cannonball. like. what fucking purpose does lying about this even serve. in what way does that benefit izzy. idgi
also ive heard that apparently ppl think he did this to spare stede or something but 1. why would he not want to specifically torture stede as much as possible 2. this is literally not sparing stede bc stede would spend the rest of his life scouring the entire caribbean hoping to find the island where they dropped ed.
RANDOM fucking idea tho but what if they did maroon him but it was on the island from 1x02. that wouldve been great for ed probably. get therapy from the old guy. have some coconut rum drink. chill out. oh well instead they shoved ed into a secret closet and left him there to die from a traumatic head injury.
hornigold calling ed "bro" was such a dead giveaway for me that this was a dream sequence or whatever. like from trailers and stuff i had already figured that this guy was hornigold and that he was probably a ghost or something but i think i mightve been questioning it a little bit at this point. but yeah anyway ed says "bro" and while obviously we dont know exactly what hornigold was like, he didnt sound like the kind of guy to say "bro"
i do love how hornigold's like "you worried you're insane?" and ed's just like "yeah a little bit!"
hornighost: you gotta move on or blow your brains out. or... we can make some soup. ed: yeah let's do soup.
wait stede told zheng that they marooned ed. and then zheng is like "well it's at least mutiny-adjacent" like no im pretty sure that's literally just a regular mutiny
bro rubio qian is so good at making faces
i love how ed's like "you ever thought about selling these shoes?" like who the fuck is hornigold going to sell them to. where does ed think they are.
OUGH RETURN OF ED'S HAIR ALL UP IN A BUN!!!!
ough... return of ed's trauma :(
ughughghuhguhughughgffffff every time i hear ed's voice in the bathtub scene i want to cryyyyy SOMEONE HUG THIS MAN I SWEAR TO GOD
also hornigold's mouth definitely moves in this shot where ed climbs off his body lol
hnnng... ed arm
oughuhgu and a strand of the wig came out of the bun WHY IS HE SO PRETTYYYYYYYYY
i cant believe for months i had my fingers crossed for the "person A thinks person B is dead" trope with ed hearing about the fuckery but instead i got it THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AAAAAAAAAAAHH
yo is hornigold wearing like. a flag. idk why i just noticed this but there's like a giant metal rung with rope tied through it holding his whole robe-ish situation together. is that a flag
very random thought but i love how tv shows just cut back and forth btwn plots and one plot might basically be one conversation but every time we cut back theyre in a different setting and we dont see how they got there. like the cut from stede walking in on the crew eating a bird to all of them back on zheng's ship eating soup. and now we went from ed yelling "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON" at hornighost's hut and now they're on a beach talking abt what the fuck is going on. why did they go there. who knows. doesnt matter.
ed is so fucking stressed abt being in the gravy basket. poor man is nervously playing with the big stick and trying so hard not to lose his cool.
damn he threw that stick really far tho. good arm.
im sorry but it's SO fucking funny how zheng is trying to seduce olu in this scene and she's like "whats the status of your boatmance is it... ongoing?" *unsheathes sword* like girl that's not seduction that's a full-on threat. i mean it's still hot dgmw but it's unclear what exactly you're going for here
YES STEDEY-BOY
loving the jaunty little escape music
archie and jim holding haaands
stede: you always say you have perfect aim black pete: ive never said that roach: you always say that lucius, throwing his beloved boyfriend under the bus: you said it today
buttons is so fucking loud fhjkhgyejkthfjkhg. ngl i relate tho
obsessed with the noise button makes when he slides across to the Revenge
and they use tea towels to slide over!! god stede really made the most out of his time in towels
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LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE how olu is the one sitting on the desk with his legs dangling and kicking during this makeout session
also obsessed with how theoretically olu could've seduced zheng out of killing the crew and it's possible that none of this was necessary
wait i literally just realized that they stole the wheel not just so that zheng couldn't follow them but bc the Revenge didnt have one lol
ugh ed's tits look so good what the hell
ed in his head instantly associates the phrase "calico jack" with someone going "WHOOHOO" at the top of their lungs
oughu FUCK i did not fucking realize this but ed is taking hornigold's presence here as confirmation that he's not loveable. earlier hornighost said "you're afraid you're unlovable" but then when he's on the cliff and he's like "you brought me here because you hate yourself" ed is like "im not loveable." ohhhhhh fuck
and then hornigold is like "and you're afraid to do anything about it. but im not" and then throws the rock off the cliff. this is the shittiest part of ed's brain calling him a pussy for not killing himself and telling him he deserves to die. fuuuuuuuuck me.
oh boy okay. ed got yanked off the cliff. stede is heading into the secret room. idk if i even have anything to say about the mermaid sequence like i cant believe this shit is real. fuck. this is a fever dream. they really just... wrote this. filmed it. put rhys darby in a fish tail. FUCK
ok the two things i have to say about this. first: the fucking flashback montage in this sequence makes me stop breathing like every single fucking time. secondly: when theyre face-to-face in ed's mermaid fantasy there's a split second where ed sort of jolts forward a tiny tiny tiny half of an inch. and i have no idea if it's intentional. but it makes me think of how in the "you wear fine things well" scene ed TOTALLY STEPS IN THINKING STEDE'S ABOUT TO KISS HIM.
WRITTEN BY ALYSSA LANE AND ALEX SHERMAN. SHOUTOUT TO THOSE GUYS.
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glowingmin · 3 months
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analyzing the adjuration ravio board
ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS SIT DOWN SHUT UP WE'RE GOING OFF 4 CUPS OF WATER AND A MIGRAINE BUT WE ARE GOING TO COPE
i unfortunately have an abysmal zoom so i've Enhanced the writing for bits I couldn't quite read but anyways LETS GET INTO IT. WITNESS THE ANALYSIS FROM AN IDIOT WHO BASICALLY ONLY KNOWS THE LORE OF FOUR SWORDS.
@not-freyja hi i hope you like this insane loveletter to adjuration (idk how else to. share it. yay)
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alright starting off with the timeline and all the looping fuckeries (motherfucker got more arrows than an ikea checkout lane)
time is scratched out and replaced with sapling. because of the war of eras? nickname yipee?
the music notes linking time to wind must refer to how the song of time sent time back and left that timeline w/o the hero's spirit
the triforce linking legend to time has to mean something but my minimal zelda lore knowledge is leaving me to die. ik its the downfall timeline, so is it a reference to how the triforce got Fucked Up by pig man? did it get messed up??? never actually played cards meaning to learn /reference
there's so many scribblies around hyrule (i love the hearts on the 'i's its adorable). hyrule found the book and thats why he gets loops?
[ hi revision glowmin here. had a thought: what if there's multiple timelines that branch out from when rulie first used the book. what if the first visit wasn't legend. how many fractured timelines could that one event have caused ]
from chapter 49: “So this entire situation is Rulie’s fault?” Twilight’s side moves as he talks and Hyrule leans away from him, falling into Wind instead." haha no don't dump all the fault on hyrule you're so sexy aha /reference
'dink does something fucky' has me cackling. is wild's existence caused by dink? three question marks, 3 parts of the triforce, mmmm that is cooking?? or could just be irony
that line also points to rulie again so i Think this has something to do with. the blood curse. that i only know about from fanfiction.
ALSO THE LINE CONNECTING RULIE TO WARS!! IS SCRATCHED OUT!! (also from chapter 49: "Dead, lightning bug,” Ravio soothes. “He’s dead, you killed him.”)
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who's dink is it anyways
the line about four's shadow has me. okay listen i don't remember the chapter but i KNOW there was a line abt the yiga talking about a small town forge. is that four's home from minish cap.
bc back when they met ravio the first (? i forgor) time, ravio told four to remind him about some dark magic (??) book. i thought this would be to revive shadow. is it. is it to revive red instead??
i am not okay abt red death
okay back to the flowchart: shit they haven't been to skyloft yet. i did not realize that until now
'palace' you mean the fucking TONGS FOUR SWORD PALACE??
the line drawn to the underlined dark link beneath time: 'hylia said "mouth of the river". i think this could either be time or sky. time bc he breaks the timeline into 3, sky bc he literally got cursed for being too cool
rulie: i am going to fucking SCREAM. the line from cia to rulie has 'why' written next to it and that's what i wanna know!! 'not safe' is in a fucking box!! underlined question marks!! ravio bbg please.
oh and 3 x's but idk if thats more triforce analogy or just. there to be There
recycled ganon had me cackle. inconsistent dates tho,,, is that like. linking up to why they're going in reverse in wild's time? bc twilight is the direct predecessor iirc???
wind: i cannot read what it says next to dead. looks like,,, 'masko' maybe? evidence of there being a dark: i have not beaten wind waker yet but I HAVE got the master sword. is the time lock shenanigan at the bottom of the ocean dink's fault or the master sword's fault.
i know like 2 things from hyrule warriors: traitors are cringe and cia apparently is creepy. thats probs why talking about dark versions of him is 'personal'. i wonder what 'safe' means in this context; safe to visit? safe to rule out? shaking ravio like a paper bag.
wild drives ravio to apple juice alcoholism more at 11. it is personal is underlined. is it wild's dark? rulie's dark? why are they going backwards? are they going to show up in wild's hyrule for when he DIES because they're going backwards? bro what is up with kyle.
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the visits lets fucking go
WHY IS 8 VISIT BLANK. HOLUP
revision glowmin again. We’re not at visit 9. I have no clue why I thought we were there. Migraines are shit.
visits 2 and 3 being about shadow and red. dont look at me i'm crying | visits 2 and 3 are in the same order both for ravio and the links. hmmmmm that's Odd
RAVIO LEARNING WHO RED IS AND THEN NEXT VISIT HE'S FUCKING DEAD. HE GOES TO WAR AND THEN HE'S FUCKING DEADDDDD
visit 6 'got em' what did you get ravio. huh?? you silly merchant man what did you get??? it certainly wasn't bitches
this is the part of the lore board that i actually fucking. bro the circles this is running me through is insane. like how do i even analyze this its making my headache die so we're just gonna spitball.
it. kind of goes in reverse? not really but kinda?? visit 9 is first for all the links, but last for ravio. is this linked to wild's visits being in reverse?
if it ends at 9 i'm gonna throw a sock at my wall
for visit 5 on ravio's side it looks like it says pregnant. ik it doesn't but i cannot make out what it is
[ revision glowmin here again. its research. why did i think it said pregnant. that has literally nothing to do with the fic. ]
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crying begins because i can barely ready any of this so bear with me here (BEAR WITH ME!!)
the first like. act of the fic summarized in 1 easy (/s /lh) flowchart. they see the what? rooms? runes? ruins? rains? god i'm illiterate
starting panic for the Dark. singular. i forgor how/if they figured out it was just one.
ravio crossing out where wild should be in the timeline is sending me. i think he's got shit from all 3 timelines in his hyrule (yadda yadda A GAME THEORY) so that would explain why they all just cross each other out.
'wind said shit' that's a good observation. is this as in he said STUFF or as in he cursed and actually said the shit word. important distinction. maybe Wind says something in the war of eras??
the question mark between cia and rulie. is that dink. whats up with the question marks after hyrule. does that imply that it fucking disappears at some point?? or do they just not know
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the part where i think ravio's mental state went wewewewewewewwoowowwowow
'evil god hylia?' the Potential though. i don't think its gonna happen but man that'd be a twist. how do you stop the reincarnation of your lover's soul: fucking kill all of them
'evil blink' is that. vaati?? nvm it says evil link i'm illiterate again oopsies!! now we know how ravio came up with dink. cooked
'inconsistent travel more than one person in control' yeah fucking kohga is in on this. drag him ravio
'resurrected monsters by blood curse/blessing' is this related to hyrule's blood curse. i don't think dink wants to revive ganon so what does he need the blood for. is he wanting to ascend to godhood?? vague sputtering sounds
one timeline makes sense when we hear abt why ravio didn't tell everyone about red's death. still sad but that line paired with 'so we keep going forward [...] no counting on do-overs [...] one step at a time [...] together [...] or not at all' really hits home.
this took 3 hours but yeah i'm Normal about this
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vioisgoinginsane · 1 year
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I did not wake up to rio's route announced. I am gonna make onw last pre route rant so buckle up
[Know what? Fuck it I'm summoning the Rio haters I need someone else's input on this cuz i am like. Obviously biased and wearing rose coloured glasses @vivifucksthevillian @violettduchess ]
Cuz something occurred to me
The Fundamental...underlying dynamic of Rio and Emma's relationship changes depending on if you're in his route or not.
Like I've been mad about the lack of rio before but now I've realised some of it is because of that fundamental aspect.
All the way back when i first opened the app and read the prologue, Emma says "I've accepted that true love is something I'll never have for myself" (or smt like that) and the very next thing I see is Rio. And He brought me food he made and is offering to watch the store so I can go look at stuff around the town and if you're me you think "???? BITCH THE FUCK YOU WAITING FOR??? HE'S RIGHT THERE! HOW'S HE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?" and then i learn about the amnesia and I'm like "oh.red flag. Understandable."
Now. The way that that line's meaning specifically changes in Hindsight depending on if you're in Rio's route or not is that in Rio's route, It's a mutual crush with both of them holding back. (They literally give each other special made chocolate on Valentine's day but no they are not dating or anything) in other routes, it's Rio having a one sided crush.
I only remember reading one translation of one early scene in Rio's route that also makes clear this distinction and makes it clear that Emma also has intrusive crush thoughts about Rio.
I'm talking about that time they were drinking tea and catching each other staring and Emma thinking to herself that Rio's pretty and then catching herself like "but I'm NOT falling in love or anything"
I cannot recall any of this nuance in someone else route event or main. But the again there aren't... A lot of other characters I would rush to play the event route of.
I feel like this does a bit of a disservice to Rio's character because it's ONE thing when it's him having an required crush and Emma's like "i just like him as a friend" and ANOTHER when she's like "i might have a little crush but I. Literally don't know anything about where he's from and it's been 3 years and nothing's happened, he's always looking after me but he doesn't really open up to me and I don't wanna possibly ruin our friendship so should I jist get over it?"
And idk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ᵐᵃʸᵇᵉ she felt like that at some point in other timelines but got over it by the point where the story starts but she doesn't in rio's cuz it's ♥*♡∞:。.。t r u e l o v e 。.。:∞♡*♥
But we never get an indication EITHER way. Like like they hanged out together on valentines and christmas for 3 years I do not remember them mentioning in other events if that still HAS happened or not. (Someone please comfirm or deny this) Their interactions are mostly kept on surface level except for a look Rio gives here and there and Emma's like "i have literally never seen that look on your face before what the fuck does that mean" which I guess... Makes sense... The prologue has to be a neutral zone, and her character changes slightly depending on who's route you're in cuz cybird has learned to think about what kinda woman the suitor would fall for AND what kinda woman would fall for each suitor (gestures to the literally masterpiece that is Clavis' route) and also there's info they keep close to the chest and save it for the route. If they added more hints like that they'd run the risk of making MC unreletable cuz.... *chuckles* instead of having me go "where's rio?" "IT'S NOT EVEN HIS ROUTE" you'd have others go "Here's Rio" "IT'S NOT EVEN HIS ROUTE" (as if Chev's route doesn't have moments that is literally like "Here's Clavis" "IT'S NOT EVEN HIS ROUTE") and " yeah no that wouldn't be me. I wouldn't have a crush on Rio cuz I hate him/i only see him as a friend.
BUT I STILL FEEL LIKE IT HURTS RIO'S IMAGE AND IT PISSES ME OFF SORRY IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIM BUT-
*slaps table* It makes him come off as more pushy than he actually is. Like yeah he's a simp and a deredere bUT-
in Rio's Christmas event, which is in his POV, Nokto literally points out how despite how obviously whipped he is for Emma and how he says he loves her all the time he hasn't REALLY made a proper move on her. He hasn't tried his luck. He had Emma almost all to himself for 3 YEARS AND DID NOTHING (mood tho). Rio contemplates to himself how he cannot remember anything from before met Emma but he gets this very bad feeling that if he ever gets his memory back he will ne torn away from her and. It would be unfair to her.
These occasions, that are supposed to be for lovers, are also when he thinks about how one day Emma will have a lover and she will spending this time with him and he will lose her. Like. That's just. An inevitability to him. (Abandonment issues is a bitch)
RIO NEVER SHOOTS HIS SHOT. NOT REALLY. *blantantly ignores silvio's route cuz idk wtf went down there* He always eventually backs down and lets her be with whoever Emma choses! He's more okay with some of the suitors than others ( "i cannot be mad at Prince Yves, he's a nice guy" vs *strained angry smile* "You're telling me King Chevalier has not contacted you for a whole week since you've been to see him and confess your undying love-" *he gives his blessing after Chev does his grand gesture*)
HE FEELS GUILT OVER THE SLIGHTEST COURTING GESTURE HE DOES LIKE "i have no right to push my feelings onto her like that"
And here's the real kicker, EMMA INVITED HIM TO SPEND CHRISTMAS WITH HIM. These, and others, are things that Emma has done to befriend him and make him feel welcomed in a foreign land, where he had no family or memories. That's all after she literally saved his life despite being a complete stranger. No wonder he's whipped.
BUT HE NEVER SHOOTS HIS SHOT cuz he's afraid of losing even the friendship he already has. He doesn't go "here are my feelings. You are my whole world and I love" CUZ HE THINKS THOSE WOULD BE A BURDEN
and I have to sit here like. Who hurt you? I want names. He's literally like a puppy who got abandomed in the street and now he has abandomed issues. It extends to how he only wants her to see his good side too as if being anything other than happy go lucky and helpful is a crime
AND IDK GUYS IF I LIKE. HAD A BEST FRIEND THAT I HANGED OUT WITH ON CHRISTMAS AND SUCH I FEEL LIKE I WOULD. NOT JUST FORGET ABOUT THEM ONCE I HAVE A BF. I KNOW EMMA CAN GET TUNNER VISION BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE I'M NOT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH HERE. WE DON'T EVEN GET A "I'm finally spending christmas/valentines with someone other than Rio"
I can only hope that it can occur to Rio to take a "well. She would have fallen for me if it was meant to be" view but idk man... I feel like crying for him...
Oh and Rio's route is literally the only one where i don't get to complain "but it's kinda unrealistic. I definitely would never fall in love with someone in one month" cuz actually. Taking 3 years to get a crush on someone sounds painfully realistic to me.....
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Jaehaera has a disability for narrative purposes, because GRRM needs to quickly explain away why the greens somehow stop demanding that Andal inheritance law be respected. Aegon III had to be king, so he's making his way backwards to fit his ending.
This gets even weirder when you realize that there's ANOTHER case of a young Targaryen girl getting passed over for the iron throne because of a disability - Vaella, who needed to get passed over because Aegon V was the one who is supposed to be King. Her claim is "immediately" dismissed despite the fact that she's the only child of the King's eldest son, presumably because of both her gender and her disability.
In fact, there's a... Weirdly significant number of Targaryen girls who are described as "simple-minded," or otherwise appear to be coded as intellectually disabled: Gael, Jaehaera, Vaella, and potentially Daella as well. Daella dies of childbirth at 18, Gael drowns herself at 19 after being "seduced and abandoned by a traveling singer," and giving birth to a stillborn baby, Jaehaera dies at 10, either by suicide or murder, and while we don't know what happens to Vaella, the fact that she's never mentioned at all after that event means either she lived an unremarkable ignored life and then died before present times, or that she died young. That's a weird amount of "simple-minded" Targaryen girls who die young. Idk if this pattern means anything, but I've noticed it before and it sticks out to me.
(while I do want Jaehaera in the show to have a character and not just be portrayed as an "simple-minded" little girl, I do hope they keep her as autistic. I think there's plenty of room to give her a ton of depth without simply erasing her neurodivergence and I really want the showrunners to realize that potential.)
Anonymous asked: not talked enough about how Jaehaera witnessed her twin's death. y'know the brother who grew up healthy and fit unlike herself. the brother who had a little too much of everything: toes, fingers. now he's down a whole head! I also believe Alicent was already planning their marriage when they were still kids lol. bedside reading time with granny Ali and she pulls out the tales of Jaehaerys and Alyssane again 🙄🙄 we get it grandma! tbh not so sure about the detailed timeline, but I thought it interesting that Jaehaera died shortly after ser Willis Fell (her larys-assigned KG) died from fever. like that was her guy! whom she had all for herself and now he's gone away commanding the KG, and now he's gone away for good. I'm probably one of the few who loves all 3 of Aegon III's little girl wives (tho Daenaera ranks lowest). I really felt for Myrielle and thought the whole doll-bit so needlessly cruel from Aegon III? his random af decision to marry Daenaera? he said fuck it we ball.
Anonymous asked: This fandom is so disgustingly ableist and no surprise here when many team green members have disabilities. And the show's treatment of disabilities is questionable to say the least. I have questions for GRRM too........
I received these additional asks about Jaehaera and was meaning to answer them, but I got distracted.
I want to clarify the fact that IMO the problem isn't if Jaehaera had a disability or was autistic/neurodivergent, the problem is that the author chose to incapacitate her so much that she is/would be incapable of taking care of herself. She is described as having some kind of mental setback ("she is eight going on four"), weeps inconsolably when she is corrected, wets her bed every night, doesn't laugh, has to be drugged to sit still at her own wedding. I cannot imagine how she could consent to a marriage or to marital relations in the future, with the whole trouble of child-birthing and rearing.
And what is the point of all this, I have to ask? Because this is very much not Jaehaera's story. It's not about how Westeros is so ill-equipped to handle mentally impaired individuals. In fact, the narrative doesn't know how to get rid of her quicker. After fighting a bloody civil war over Andal Law, the greens conveniently decide to disregard all that and don't push for her claim (that's how disabled she is). Everyone who could conceivably be on her side is quickly killed - her father, her grandmother, Ser Willis Fell. The new 15-year-old Lord Lyonel Hightower suddenly can't raise another army for the greens because he is too busy fucking Lady Sam. (?!) Jaehaera dies a horrible, graphic death, lingering in tremendous pain for half an hour. Couldn't she have received at least the mercy of a quick death?
This is why I see her being incapacitated for narrative purpose. All of this happens in favour of Daemon's freaking children - it's like they all had to band together to help erase Jaehaera from the annals (three of them at least). There is no reason for all of them to survive, considering how FB has no issue with inventing random events just to get rid of characters. Yet they do. Of course Aegon III becomes king at Jaehaera's expense, of course his brother Viserys II also gets to become king at some point, because why not? Daemon should get to have two kingly sons, not one, as a treat. Baela and Rhaena get this stupid gotcha moment at the Maiden's Day Ball when they bring their six-year-old cousin Daenaera to replace Jaehaera as Queen, as if that's some sort of triumph and not inappropriate AF.
This is why I dislike the introduction of characters like Daenaera and Myrielle - because they're been intentionally placed there to replace a traumatized and damaged little girl with a trauma-free, suitable, lovable consort. Don't get me wrong, these two girls don't get a chance at their own story either, they exist only to replace Jaehaera and to please Aegon III.
I also deeply dislike and do not understand why there are so many "simple-minded" Targaryen princesses - Daella and Gael have particularly awful stories. Vaella's story is just a repeat of Jaehaera's, but with less awfulness and violence. What's the point? Get some interviewer grill these questions into GRRM ASAP.
So, I do hope that they change this in the show somehow to make it less awful. I would not want Jaehaera reduced to an invalid, her claim passed over, and I would not want her to die. Of course, if she lives, then I would have to contend with her being the mother of Aegon III's senseless children, so, honestly, I don't know which is worse.
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unsleepingtales · 5 months
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Burrow’s End episode 8
Two minutes in and I’ve lost the plot this is delightful
I’m gonna be totally honest gang I am exhausted and distracted tonight so we’ll see how this goes
Let’s hear it for the muas btw. Knocking it out of the park every single time
We’ve skipped hat and gone straight to miter.
Oh yeah the hat chant was fun
SHES PUTTING ON THE POPES HAT
Siobhan I love you
Unsleeping city shirt!
She’s so chill about it lmao
Tula’s heart is still beating???
The name of their cop show 😭
My body is composed of tubes :)
What has happened to your family indeed
Erika <3
Oh goddamn okay
What
Revenant Tula confirmed! Fascinating
Oh I thought that was gonna be a comedic beat and then it Was Not
Oh is this a thing Geoffrey cast on her???
Wait when she said ‘the winter we had lost dad’ did she mean Kenji or Geoffrey?
This does not feel like the whole truth.
Jasper looks SO devastated
You cannot really blame them
Oh that’s some thoughts that sound a lot like suicidal ideation
Yeah just checked the warnings! Glad they put the warning in for it.
Oh Geoffrey info!
Avaaaa
DAMN
She has needed to snap for so long
Oh Rashawn 💜💜
We are EIGHTEEN minutes in Jesus Christ
Let’s hear it for ttrpg safety tools! And players that communicate with one another!
MeatWolf merch when
It is NOT kosher
God what is with GMs and the word viscera.
Bennet!
I mean you could have said like. Explain or something but go off
Oh nooooo
I’m very not alive :)
Ok good thank you
Good lord
Hello???
“Since we got here” you’ve been here One day but ok
No? That’s not at all what was said?
It really does seem like a magical hat
That seems like a good call yeah
How did we get here things were SO tense like two minutes ago
GIRL
That was NOT subtle
Thorn is so fucking creased 😭
If Bennet turns out evil I will cry
Guys maybe chill. You just got off the topic of the killing.
What point are you trying to make??
You cannot try to pull the ‘we’re new’ card right now
That makes me want to Die in My Body
What’s the DC on democracy?
Thorn cleric level??? Is that new or was that there last ep and I missed it??
Is this just a normal thing that happens??
If you didn’t want me to fuck it up you wouldn’t have had such a whimsical redwall-ass name I am DEAD
Yeah no it’s the accent and the whimsical name it has nothing to do with jwc’s Astronomical talent or storytelling ability
He’s reluctant but he is still a cult leader cmon now
Jesus
OH ok
That was wild few seconds
How is he rolling so well now?
What
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Awwwwww
The DEEPEST betrayal from her husband
She’s already dead man
Nuclear radiation did that sweetheart.
What
How do they have guns
Horrifying!
MeatWolf Merch When
They’re coppers now? Maybe don’t? Idk idk idk
Just a thought!
Erika <3
No yeah sometimes you do just need the shit kicked out of you
So… are they gonna tell Bennet that they put spies in the police force
I saw that eye twitch
Gotta nudge the homies
That was such a muppet face Brennan just pulled
What a lovely moment actually
The name bit keeps getting me-
Oppenheimer 😭
Warby Parker is Not that affordable lmaoooo zennioptical.com forever
We’re getting so many sponsors this week
was that just a fritos bit sweetie or did you wanna do something in character I’m dead
Maybe it’s the week I’m having but the jokes are hitting harder this week
The sass
We’re roughhousing :)
After this season I’m gonna try and make an actual timeline of events
Oh god that was just this morning
Aww Erika’s face
That is so purely sweet
Oh they’re GONE
augh
Psychic damage in real life
The energy is wild rn
Lotta strong feelings
Okay here we go
He’s hot though.
Sabotage??? Like by stoats sabotage?
He’d already been exposed to the radiation
Oh my god
Five??
Oh that’s not gonna haunt me at ALL
SHE’LL BE BACK
What the fuck is happening Aabria. Aabria what.
Phoebe?
God I wish I knew more about this specific section of history so I could know what’s in historical context and what’s Burrow’s End lore
God radiation is so fucked up
The shadow puppet show! We found the light and began the world
Ooh I just noticed the gm screen changed and you can see inside now that’s so cool
An egg threat!
I’m
I’m gonna lose it I think
I need to have an in depth understanding of things please
I would like to know what is going on :) I am stressed and confused :)
Plot twist they’re all vegetarian now
Oh my god Aabria you’re brilliant
I am terrified!
Ok it’s 2 am I’m going to sleep and hopefully I don’t have nightmares about stoats I will be back to rewatch and re-freak out tomorrow!
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spectrum-color · 11 months
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Do you think it’s possible for the realm of the elderlings to be adapted for a tv show or movie ( I think between the two it could most likely be a tv if it ever were to be) idk with all these book adaptations being announced we probably aren’t too far away. Who would your preferred cast be for an adaptation? Would you like HBO, Netflix, Amazon or Apple to produce it or anyone else ?
I love you anon whoever you are because this is a topic I have many takes on!
So first off, I have mixed feelings about how RotE would work in live action.
Pros:
-We could get out of Fitz’s POV a bit and get more of what other characters are up to. This would give us a way better perspective on the political situation in the 6D, the Red Ship Wars/persecution of the Old Blood/tensions between Regal and Verity/various other plotlines that could be really compelling if we get more characters perspective. We could see different sides to the characters too. Like it would be so interesting to see Regal when he’s around useful people keeping the mask intact, or how the Fool and Shrewd interact with each other, or more about Chade and Kettricken struggling over who is really in charge of Dutifuls regency.
-The characters are all so human and complex they would be juicy opportunity for actors. Imagine someone getting the chance to play Burrich and dial up the queer subtext with his “our Wit is shameful and you need to crush it like I did” to 100, or getting to see Patience lament how Fitz pushes her away despite her best efforts to be a mother to him. We could have some truly amazing early season GoT level scenes of actors crushing it in scenes where they do nothing but talk to someone. It could pick up the mantle of intelligent fantasy for adults that was so badly dropped by GoT in later seasons.
-The Fool would be SUPER well received by 2023 audiences I think. Queer, non-binary (that would almost certainly be more explicitly stated in any modern adaptation,) a snarker on the powerful and friend of the downtrodden and crusader for a better world. I also think Fitzloved would be played up a lot.
Cons:
-Losing Fitz’s POV. This is a double edged sword. If we can’t hear his thoughts, he comes off as way less sympathetic. Things like the quarrel or the Nettle situation or his neglect of Bee would make him seem like such a dick if we aren’t hearing his thoughts and realizing how fucked up he is. The series is heavily reliant on internal narration.
-The Wit and the Skill would be really hard to portray in a visual way. They are both basically telepathy, with the Skill eventually expanding to healing as the plot requires it. The magic in general isn’t super suited to a visual format outside of the Elderlings.
-Weaving in the events of Liveship Traders and RWC would be difficult, but the story would need to basically be rewritten entirely to not include them. They run into timeline that prevent them from all being blended together like Netflix does with the Shadow and Bone show; like Amber is mutually exclusive to the Fool/Lord Golden and Kelsingra can’t happen until after everything goes down in Bingtown.
Who would I like to make it?
HBO for sure; they have a proven track record of being able to do prestigious fantasy in a way other streamers don’t. Netflix would absolutely murder it (the only reason Sandman was good was because Neil Gaiman was extremely involved.)
Dream casting?
I would prefer unknowns and stage actors for the most part. Makes it easier to see them as the characters. That said, I have a perfect Fitz and the Fool: D’Pharaoh Woon-A-Tai and Hunter Schaefer
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mandatory commentary on a1-p5
when it comes to vara we know she absorbed anthonys personality and nemories but the degree of this is never addressed, so theres no knowing how much "anthony" is vara, that makes it a little vague to analyze her words bcuz we dont know if its "her" talking or her anthony parts (then again the distinction might not matter). the introject-coded nature of the relationship did not go unnoticed
so in this chapter vara does say she only sees jacques once a year, which means that annotations are usually p rare (especially assuming its not the same marginal that gets annotated every year, so maybe marginals only get routine annotations after several years). one thing she mentions is conspiring against media, which might give more clues to the nature of jacques and anthonys relationship, at least i think what vara meant is that she has memories of jacques and anthony conspiring against media
for anthony this makes sense if he had visions that influenced his actions seeking jacques out and involving him in his plans might be self fulfilled prophecies. idk what jacques would have gotten out of this tho, and his denial that this happened can mean vara is just intentionally riling him up
ofc on that vein, varas purpose is involving the marginals existence so i wonder if her trying to get in the way of meja is like her own way of trying to protect media from smthg she knows abt jacques, but that she can only express in an anthony-ish way. idk. rly vara is so mean in a way designed to annoy ppl the sincerity of her words is hard to think abt
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this is smthng very 🤨, so we know bread gets the star toy from the alt timeline, which has nothing to do w/ curator. i understand jacques would have no way of knowing the specific events bread saw and bread probably didnt contest it either bcuz most likely she doesnt know who these ppl r shef have no way of knowing theres an inconsistency. but it does open up the question of why the alt timeline (or maybe a memory of it?) is in curators memories anyway 🤨
the "main" part of the update imo is media and vara talking. first thing i noticed is that media is definitely meaner when jacques isnt around. not only by his impatient demeanor around vara, but even in his open admission to he finds other marginals disgusting. ofc, this may not be exclusive to media (vara seems to suggest, marginals looking down on each other for dying in ways deemed not as "noble" is common) but still, its different from the more proper and affectionate media we see around jacques.
... That is not reflective of my Sense of Ethics, and I would never want to "torture" the Object of my veneration.
media consistently expresses his affection for jacques w/o jacques watching, first by talking about him positively in the radio, and now w/ this. i mean it was obvious he likes jacques ofc but it does point to his feelings being genuine instead of an act he only puts up around jacques
ofc varas answer does strongly imply that media might genuinely care for jacques bit that he still wants to torture him lol. i think the only mystery here is whether his thoughts of harming jacques r intrusive or a sadistic feeling he tries to surpress
the rest of their convo also shows vara and media r so interconnected they r practically "the same person" and interestingly they both refer to themselves as the creator of the other. probs related to the recursion theme that they simultaneously are each others creator and creation, and expands on their relationship from i1 where it looked more like vara was "only" a creation
(also, that reminds me too, i1 vara might be a "pure" vara w/o absorbed judges, and we can see how much more formal she is than anthony-vara)
[ Yikes, no need to get so testy. It's not my fault your AUTOMATICALLY CENSORED BY PROFANITY FILTER boyfriend would rather choke on a dead human's dick. Maybe you just don't fuck as good, Bendy. ]
its canon ur honor. jacthony fucked
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alright so this is just straight up fucked idk what it means.
the link leads to a story that is likely marys backstory, where shes described as an artist whose job was to make works of art that replace the missing. things going "missing" is described as smthng very surreal, where it looks like spacetime becomes distorted? most likely has smthng to do w/ the apocalypse, especially if curator died by "architectural thinning" the architecture beign the "rules" of how things exist then thinning might look like things going "missing" because the rules of their existence gradually disappeared.
ofc whats rly ??? here is media as the herald of the apocalypse. like 🤨🤨🤨 idek what to make of that but its worth noting too that the radio was the last form of media in curators world too
the song choice is... smthng. rpp music taste is eclectic asf /pos
the lyrics given r a translation of the song, as a tagalog speaker theyre pretty much accurate, the english lyrics just seem to have more words but i think lots of changes had to be made to fit the rhythm bcuz tagalog words r longer than english ones. heres my literal translation of the lyrics for reference:
the wind has a song, conducting, whistling
its whispering to me, going backwards, chasing
and if you join in the tune, you can't even sing it
maybe it really is a crazy melody, this song inside my head
the wind has a poem, shouting, humming
the same tempo as the stars blinking, dancing, rolling
but if the heart tries to join, you can't catch the tone
maybe this really is how to love, singing like an insane person
spinning, circling, feelings that can't be placed
my heart is flying with the song i have (x2)
what is this thats happened to me? stuttering, stuttering (idk nauutal and nabubulol just mean the same thing)
forcing myself to sing but my tongues in knots
but if the mind tries to join, you really just cant catch it
maybe this really is the love that i forced into turning into a song
(rest of the lyrics just repeat)
ive said this before but i rly like how rpp writes translyrics bcuz of how well they both rhyme and fit in the rhythm, and in this case its also a rly good translation overall that conveys the same idea. its actually impressive how even the words in the middle of the lines rhyme imo
anyway, one thing i noticed, gui actually pointed out b4 that pavlovian love was formatted like a "performance", w/ the intro of characters and then a song, at least its definitely distinct from anything in breadavota b4 i1-p5rd
and if this is meant to be the beginning of a "manual annotation" then that might imply that whatever sar did to bien was an annotation or smthng annotation-like
thoughts 2 think
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𝐦𝐚𝐣𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐚 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐨𝐭. asked by @sidxras & @nihlkahn ♡
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𝟎𝟎.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐨𝐥 :  what are your muse’s thoughts on new beginnings ? does it frighten them or  excite them ?
there is no new beginnings . the world is trapped in a cycle & will always circle back to the same events in different fonts . dawn believes in anew beginnings & has hope for brighter futures but ray is too caught in the reality that the pain the kingdom goes through every few decades will happen again & again so them moving to a different part of hyrule for ' new beginnings ' or when war ends ⸻ it's just a waiting period for the next painful part of the cycle . neither excitement nor fear ... just waiting .
𝟎𝟏.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐧  :   how does your muse feel about fate ? do they believe they can change their own destiny ?
hates it ! hates it so much . he wants to drag the gods from their heaven & snap their necks with his bare hands . the cycle is fated to happen due to the curse of the gods & he wants to see it broken . a few times he's taught about getting the triforce himself to shatter the cycle so that he can finally be free but so far has failed each time . i do have a small webcomic / fanfic idea where ray does make a whole plan to trap the three triforce bearers in a painted world so he can get the triforce & finally free the world but idk ! for his own destiny ... he isn't sure he has one ? he simply operates on what he is good at : fighting & killing .
𝟎𝟓.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐢𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐭  :    what are your muse’s morals / ethics ? do they follow their moral code strictly ?
moral code is ... difficult to pin down when ray's own ideals shift through the timeline . from the beginning up until OOT he is a die hard lover of hyrule & will do anything to protect it & its people . hurt no innocents . slay monsters & always uphold the rule of the royal family with pride . then the civil war begins to shatter his mindset of ' hyrule is good ' . he shakes it off but downfall , he loses it mind & hates the kingdom of hyrule & vows to destroy everything . child era he continues to keep his love for the kingdom but is growing tired of the cycle & begins to wonder if the kingdom will ever be happy but remains a loyalist . adult era is tricky . is a bit of a mix . he refuses to leave as the kingdom drowns but grows resentful of new hyrule ⸻ believing it to be a bastard version of the kingdom he loves . still a loyalist but a bitter one who spits in the face of progress. then BOTW happens & all timelines reconnect & ray has memories of all three eras & .... he has no more morals . he kills what he wants , joins the army just so he can fight & talks down to the royal crown when he can get away with it . truly a man with nothing left . beyond the cycle : he upholds honor in fights , refusing to fight someone not on even ground ( they must have a weapon , they cannot be hurt already as that's unfair to them , 1v1 is possible ) . through most timelines he doesnt hurt kids & tries his best to be kind to them . ( ww is on sight with link & tetra tho he gonna fuck 'em kids up ) & for the most part he doesn't break the law ... a lot . yeah he kills ppl but usually someone who deserves to die like an abuser or p/edo . last he tries not to eat people , opting for rats or wild animals .
𝟎𝟕.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐭  :    how much does your muse care about winning ? are they a sore loser ?
o yeah he loves to gambling / card games & yells " YOU CHEATED " when he loses lol . bit of a sore loser unless he playing with kids then he'll grumble under his breath & reward the kid for winning . during fights he doesn't care so much about winning but it being a good battle that makes him feel something passionately for once in his life .
𝟏𝟏.  𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐞  :  does your muse find it easy to be impartial in emotional situations ?
he isn't a very emotional person , outwardly anyway . he has feelings & that muddy decisions but as a general / captain / queen he is able to put his feelings aside to do that is best for the many over the few . some may see his choices to be heartless but he understands some situations require pain or bloodshed to protect the greater good . that being said .... he does lose his cool during the downfall timeline & attempts to bring back ganon himself in a fit of rage @ god . but that was after thousands of years of pain & suffering . so he got a big buffer of what bullshit you can toss at him before he loses it & makes rash choices .
𝟏𝟑.  𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡  : is there anything in your muse’s life that they should be letting go of ?
girl calm down about the cycle pls just live ur life . the anger he feels towards his father / maker . their relationship is backwards to him . a loving father turned into an abusive master when for lamatar , he learned from the horrible treatment he gave ayrin/ray during the ancient battle & tried to be the best father he could be -- unaware he fulfills the prophecy of ayrin becoming ray . ray blames him for everything bad in his life & that is only partially true ? lamatar loved him greatly but its ray who continues to throw himself at wars over & over again , reliving his trauma instead of allowing himself to heal & grow past it . not saying ray should forgive lamatar or invite him back into his life but to finally allow that wound to close .
𝟏𝟕.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫  :    what does your muse take inner comfort in knowing ? what guides your muse ?
great question !! i'm not sure he even knows what guides him ?? for a good part of the timeline where he is a loyalist he takes comfort in the fact he can help protect the people of hyrule . but has stated above that love dies as the timeline goes on ... beyond hyrule ray is simply the idea of ' survive ' . no matter what , ray will remain even when nothing else stands ... ray will be there . he does take comfort in his long list of past lovers . it reminds him that he is loveable even when he reject the idea he is something worthy of love . they remind him of better moments of his life , times when he was able to at least pretend to live a normal life where he got married ( & in some verses have kids ) . ray has a collection of items from these lovers that he keeps with him .
𝟐𝟏.  𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝  : is there one thing in life that your muse must accomplish ? what will they do when they complete that goal ?
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no idea again !!! maybe its kill god !!! get the triforce ?? who knows !!! problem with ray is that he just kinda exists to suffer this cycle !!!! my man is just surviving .
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rsmrymnt-tea · 2 years
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Thats so funny because I only dont care for lesson 16 and the lessons around it because i felt the resolution was a bit rushed in terms of everyone just suddenly being lovey dovey with MC cuz theyre descended of lilith. I would love to hear your thoughts on this when you get the chance!
honestly i WISH i were apathetic about lesson 16... but as a person being apathetic about something is impossible (sadly... it would bring me so much more peace if i could just not care) and so i do have a lot of thoughts about lesson 16? like bestie you've just unlocked a long long rant that's gonna be hidden under the cut
because it is just sooo absurd to me that that was somehow the best idea that the writers came up with, and the execution ended being so rushed and poorly written that it managed to make so many people think that the brothers only love mc and/or only started being open with mc about how much they adore them because of the lilith reveal. it's very much not like that at all (i have arguments for every single one of them tbh) but the way lesson 16 was written + some of the handling of some of the brothers' relationship to mc before that definitely makes more than understandable to me that people would think so.
so like, firstly i think that yeah, the resolution is so rushed and weirdly written. i think at the end of lesson 16, belphie should not be so immediately buddy-buddy with mc and there should've been dialogue from ALL the brothers that they're glad that MC is fine and isn't actually dead. the mammon favoritism from the writers kills me here—levi and beel should've said something about being worried to death and i won't take any other opinion on it! they've been close to mc and have had pacts with them for much longer than asmo and satan!! i can't even agree that asmo and satan wouldn't have been concerned because they were definitely worried when mc was sent back in time (as shown in lesson 12), and that is just a few hours away from the events of lesson 16.
not to mention, just a few hours before (technically after, but never got the chance to happen in the new timeline) they were called family—there is just no way that none of them are greatly relieved that mc is fine (because those feelings are there even if they're never said), and it's not enough that they're showing it through coddling them during that stupid scene where diavolo drops that 'there must be so much they've wanted to do for lilith' line.
in fact that line is another major issue i have with lesson 16—why did the writers think it was a good idea have that said? it just adds more to the 'oh they only love mc bc they're related to lilith' thing, and in a game where y'know, the goal is to kiss and fuck these guys, it's very weird and off putting.
(inb4 someone brings up that mc wouldn't have any blood relation to lilith and the brothers + it's been millennia (probably; but parts of canon imply that it's been like, just 200 years ago) since then so it's fine. idk but my inclination to fuck someone who drop super low if i thought/knew they associate me with being related to their sister, and it's also a little weird if they're thinking of their sister when they're with me—which isn't the case at all because the brothers very much love you outside of your lilith relation, but the handling of lesson 16 really makes it seem like youre now someone to project their affections for their long dead sister on sdgjkg especially with belphie being the only one to openly say that he doesn't like you purely bc you're related to lilith and that weird scene where lucifer's reminded of holding hands with his sister while he's holding hands with you at a carnival? such a baffling thing to make him say, writers. whatever blush i'd have would immediately drain from my face.)
i also think it's a fault of the writers that there is very, very little clear romantic attraction from the brothers to mc before the revelation. as far as i know, only mammon's been anything transparent + there's hints from lucifer and satan in lesson 12; i personally wouldnt count the time everyone was stuck in an otome because theyre were obligated to do all that or else they wouldnt be leaving the game and it was clear that they're all just saying those words to literally get points. they all make fun of mammon for having a crush on mc which sends the message that none of them are interested. while there is a huge, huge timeskip of what's apparently 10 whole months between the end of lesson 18 and the start of lesson 19, the fact that we don't get to see that development of feelings makes it feel even more like the revelation had something to do with the rest of the brothers catching feelings :/
then there's like, all the other issues i have with lesson 16 which have honestly become inspiration for dola's vitriol towards diavolo. it makes it so that all the of the heartwarming moments that mc experiences with the brothers never happened. all those little one-on-ones with the brothers when mc come back to the HoL with beel after belphie's arrested? never happened. all of them working together to get lucifer out so they can actually talk? never happened. and neither did that talk where lucifer himself tells everyone what really happened to lilith or why he's so loyal to diavolo, or the moment where mc is called family? erased. lucifer proving to diavolo and all his brothers that he cares more about his family than his eternal obedience to the prince? absolutely did not happened and is replaced by diavolo rubbing it in lucifer's face that he shouldn't have ever doubted him in the first place or some shit during lesson 16.
it's why i think mc should be so much more upset than they were during lesson 16. i get that the writers wont do that because ~blank slate~ (not saying cant bc lbr they lock you into choices and emotions you dont agree with ALL the time) but it leaves a sour and bitter taste in my mouth that after losing all of that, mc is just okay with everything. everything returns to almost normal, and we're actually in charge of making sure it goes completely back to normal! we have to help belphie bond with his brothers again!! great.
most frustrating somehow, all the things i come up with in trying to justify why that stupid lesson played out like it did feels like copium lmaooo especially since it feels like there's not really any payoff to diavolo ensuring that the only reality that exists is one where lucifer never openly opposed him in front of his brothers >.>;; it's such a weird lesson with such a weird conclusion, and an aftermath that i sped through because i could not get into the idea of my mc being so willing to help belphie bond with his brothers again so fast. i think with all the magical bullshit that they can make the brothers and diavolo pull bc OM has no rules to their magic, they couldve easily had mc come back from their mission to report that te door opened with their touch. then through some magical ritual of some sort, they go and investigate and find that lilith's spirit is just there and was the final sibling that enabled the door to open, and then diavolo channels enough magic through some obscure spell or device to get her to talk to them and belphie or whatever—literally there's so many ways that that lesson could've gone.
instead we have like... whatever the fuck that lesson is and i hate it lol
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vagueiish · 3 months
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….so. like. how do you break someone of the notion that he’s only worth something if he’s useful to people when he’s the player character in an rpg? (this is about bg3 and my current tav)
it’s fun bc it gives an in-character reason to be a completionist, but from a writing perspective? while trying to keep things in line with how my actual gameplay goes? this belief is super reinforced over and over again. esp since there’s no real built in way to be useless. failure is technically an option, but my guy has been rather lucky on the major dice rolls. i suppose i could just throw up my hands and let his actual development come post-game. because i do have some ideas for that. but it’d be nice to have some development happen during the events of the game
…and this is getting a bit longer than i intended so…
maybe i could purposely fail a dice roll during a super important quest or something and see how he copes with the aftermath, but like. idk. he already accidentally destroyed the whole crèche, but that was less him being useless and still loved and more a ‘stop being a dipshit, think before you act’ moment. and it happened organically, which is nice. i don’t want to necessarily force anything, but at the same time, i’m almost gonna have to if i want some change to occur in the game timeline, right? put on my god pants and divinely intervene and all for the sake of character growth
i have this idea that maybe something happens late game where he’s out of commission for a while and needs to be taken care of by the squad. which he absolutely hates because he fully expects them to resent him for it and hate him and so forth, but no. he’s spent the whole journey taking care of them, now it’s their turns to have his back. but then idk how exactly to put him out of commission for a while in a way that doesn’t kill him or something because, d&d universe, magic healing, it’s not like they’d let him stay injured like that. especially since he’s at ‘exceptional’ with all the homies by the end. and also it can’t be something super long because, y’know, mother brain is trying to break free and all that…
or. oh. maybe they see him struggling. the weight of everything is finally to the point that he can no longer smile and wave off concern and redirect any such conversation convincingly. everyone collectively decides he needs a break, so they force him to sit this one out, lmao. and he’s fucking miserable, spending a good portion of the time thinking they’ve deemed him useless and it’s only a matter of time before they get rid of him completely. and it’s double bad, actually, because once he stops moving, The Anxiety asserts itself and The Thoughts start nagging at him and he starts to spiral even further. and instead of opening up, he sets off on his own to take care of a quest or whatever and ends up getting Fucked Up and he needs to be taken care of anyway, but this time with a nice side-helping of lovingly getting chewed out by his companions….
idk. maybe i’m looking in the wrong direction? or maybe i’m thinking too much about it. it’s not necessary to have a character arc to play the game. but, by gum, i fuckin wanna figure this shit out. as a writing brain exercise
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arolesbianism · 9 months
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Epic dst age hcs and thoughts under the cut (skipping ppl with canon or basically canon ages (and also other ppl I don't feel like talking abt))
Maxwell: I'm starting with him since he's kind of my age compass so to speak, but of course he's on the older end of the cast. I imagine he's somewhere in his 60s, but he could also be in his mid to late fifties in my minds eye. I personally tend to lean towards early 60s though, like 62 probably?
Wolfgang: having been a full adult (hopefully anyways gmdjdnsh) during our pre Maxwell being Maxwell era, we can assume he's also on the older end of the cast, but perhaps not quite as old, or maybe even older if you believe in yourself. I tend to view him as like 58, but he could rly range anywhere from 40s-60s to me, but technically speaking he rly could be younger, especially taking into account that we don't know when he entered the constant, as that evidently can functionally pause a characters aging with the outside world as seen with Wendy. I definitely wouldn't go below 30 though, he ain't that young
Wx-78: this fucker. This fucker. It all felt so clean after their rework animation, but noooo we had to have a notably young Wagstaff at an event that fucks with the timeline of everything, so now I. Don't fucking know. I'm so scared klei please don't take early 60s Wx hc away from me Im begging y'all-
Wickerbottom: very clearly intended to be the eldest of the cast, I think it's safe to say she's like mid 60s at the absolute youngest. To me she's probably somewhere in her late 70s, but she could easily be much older. Tbh rn klei could pull anything out of their ass in regards to Wickerbottom they could say she's somehow 200 years old and we'd kind of just have to accept it as another unexplained fucked up Wickerbottom thing, they probably won't but itd be funny if they did. Just sequence of historical events with Wickerbottom standing in the background. She's like 79 idk.
Woodie: dude he could be like any age and I'd probably believe it. I personally tend to see him as late 30s, but I rly could see him ranging from late 20s to late 50s, and there's Nothing pointing in any specific age so idk. He can be 38 ig.
Wes: sigh. I don't fucking know. Somewhere in his 20s most likely. I don't like trying to pin down his age in my hcs nothing ever feels quite right to me </3
Wigfrid: this might be a bit older than most probably imagine her, but I've always seen her as a bit on the older end. Not like, Old old, but like somewhere in her late 30s to mid 40s probably? Mayyyybe early to mid 30s. Idk, I know she's an actress so having a successful career is more associated with younger age as opposed to older, but she's always given me big like. Star of a movie franchise that defines the first decade or so of her career in a way that sets her up for failure for the rest of it. Either way, I just cannot see her as being any younger than 30 personally.
Winona: now she's a bit of a tricky one. On the one hand, it should be easy to have a hc age for her since I have one for Charlie. On the other hand, I feel the need to think real hard abt what the age gap between the two is in my minds eye. It's hard because I can't in good faith go over 4 years, but I don't know how to narrow it from there. But with the 4 year limit, I think thatd put her in her late 30s early 40s ish in my hcs? I've been saying that a lot huh djdbrjdv
Warly: look me in my eyes. He's 50 at the youngest. He's like 65. Just trust me bro.
Wanda: nope
Wheeler: we have like no real info on her but she gives me early to mid 30s vibes? So like relatively young but still an established adult.
Walani: despite looking quite young, based on her dialogue it rly does sound like she's been around for longer than like freshly 20. I'm leaning towards early 30s, but I could also see her as late 20s or maybeeee mid 20s if we wanna stretch a lil bit.
Wagstaff: again, I genuinely don't fucking know how old hes supposed to be at this point and Im scared. But he's like 60 smth in my minds eye, around the same age as Wx
And it's 2 am so just imagine I said smth really insightful at the end here and now I shall pass the fuck out ✌
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sega-saturn-arcade · 1 year
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look having a nice memory with apollo and accepting scars n shit was. really really nice until i realized
fuck, dual destinies events happened. so i’ve thought about the events before the initial memory and trying to figure out how the hell they work. the timeline is fucked because of this bro idk whats going on
which leads me to believe that whatever happened was different, and the blast scars got apollo and NOT some falling debree, but then who the fuck saved Juniper Woods??
i know where i was during this, i was on tour and i remember calling apollo every now and then when i could. i don’t think i heard of this until a bit later ans like either my ass rushed over to japanafornia as fast as i could or i literally just didn’t know because EVERYONE was busy. i would say it was probably i didnt know until later
i know me and apollo were dating before this event. i know clay was still alive even after all of this. so either my canon had a REALLY fucked up vers of dual destinies or . that was just a weirdly out of place memory that happened to . be in dual destinies
slamming my head against a wall i know im probably gonna have to buy and play dual destinies to figure this out. oh the things i do for kinning
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felicityphoenix5 · 1 year
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I have. No Goddamn Idea what the otterverse is so uhhhh,,,,,, infodump me? /nf
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you have given me the greatest gift ever i am vibrating rn sasdfghjhgfdsadfghj
i could take the easy way out and link you to some posts explaining this wacky gay story, but i have been rotating this in my mind constantly for the past three (THREE??? GOD .) months so i am not goign to do that (here and here they are if u want tho)
SO. The Otterverse is a semi-ongoing improv roleplay story that began as a funny little bit over on @lifesteal-headcanons and then somehow spiralled into....... all of this. ("all of this" including but not limited to; lesbians, hamilton quotes, tma references, more lesbians, ✨trauma✨, the apocalypse, even more gay people [everyone in this is queer in someway], tragic backstories and much, much more)
it is currently on its third and probably final (unless we do some spin-offs 👀) season. Season One (Aug 27ish to Sept 5ish) featured me as c!Felix, an immortal phoenix avian, Divorce Anon (aka Divorce and/or Divanon, played by @wallace-marte) a sort of human who kidnapped c!felix and was the antagonist of that season, and c!Paci (played by @pacificseaotter) an otter hybrid(?) and the resident cheater chaos creator. (there were other characters, but we were the main ones)
Season One was (IMO) the best one so far but I digress. It ended with death and grief and unhappy endings for the characters, as well as shock and general "wtf was that week of our lives man" from the actors.
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Season Two came barely two days after the first one, and timeline-wise takes place about six months after the events of s1. I wasn't as involved with the beginning of s2, but the apocalypse Happened somehow. no idea How or Why but there's cosmic horrors goin to wendys and blood rain now. a day in the life ig .
I brought back c!felix for s2, and I think I was the only returning character? wisp (@wisp-exe) might've brought back theirs too idk. anyways, the cast basically tripled in size, mostly because of Captain "otterverse georg" @wlttebane playing a whopping 7 different characters. (shoutout to captain fr he slayed hard with that)
Wallace expanded its lore with three new characters, all connected back to Divanon. (Marri, Leon K [not shown] and Carmin). Mist (paci) created a new character, c!Otter.
Stickynote (played by @cats-thoughts) also joined, after making some absolutely banger fanart for s1 (also shoutout to cat its art is so sadfghjklkjh /vpos)
(and here is where you might want to read that first post i linked, as mist summed up this season more concisely than i ever could. zyr really amazing like that <3)
S2 ended in the same way as the first, with death, pain and destruction, a cruel imitation of the past. funny how that happens /silly.
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and now season three....... ahhh......
s3, due to being in the unfortunate position of starting just when all the actors are Properly Starting School, has been ongoing for about two months now sdfghjklkjhgfds.
not much has happened yet, but I got to work on my flirting skills /silly (they still suck ass [hah.] but yknow) and tensions are on the rise.... so stay tuned for more (when will the "more" arrive? fuck if i know my best bet is christmas break)
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if this seems vague on the actual details, thats cuz it is. i didnt really want to spoil it for you if you did somehow end up reading it in order (which reminds me i need to start archiving the otterverse again... anghd) so lemme know if you have any follow up questions :DD
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rebelquilled · 2 years
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...when xayah is purified, i wonder what showing back up at school after like... years ( timeline still fucks with me but the bio says years so ).  i’m sure most of the school thought she and rakan might have just.  moved?  and only a handful of the guardians know she and rakan were part of ahri’s team and died.  like lux never once mentions knowing xayah, rakan, and neeko’s names in the short stories so it’s clear that the newer guardians are a bit mixed on the knowledge.
i’m sure ahri’s new teammates are at least like.  semi aware.  maybe even knew xayah, rakan, and neeko before they vanished and the new ones joined ahri’s team ( even though syndra isn’t new?  or janna... so i’m sure they might know ).
....the timeline is forever going to haunt me.
anyways.  ignoring that i bet just.  xayah returning and not rakan ( and i’m assuming neeko came back even earlier ??? ) just.  sparks lots of stories.  and whispers and staring.  and it burns xayah’s guilt and hurt more.  and she so clearly is fighting that based off the super quick clips in the newest event teaser where she’s sitting alone in a classroom crying over one of his feathers...  and that really brief line from senna that implied sera and the other new new team are like?  kind of aware??  idk it’s phrased almost like they don’t know if xayah was actually corrupted or she just gives a weird vibe.
i’m just.
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me trying to figure this out in my head.
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EDCUSE ME WANNA PLAY A GAME ??? HELLO WHAT ??? NAH WHEN YEONJU KNOCKED HER OUT I KNEW HE WASNT THE KILLER CUZ THINGS WERENT ADDING UP. HE WAS THERE ALL THE FREAKING TIME, MY SUSPECT'S WERE BEOMGYU AND TAEHYUN BUT AT ONE POINT I WAS LIKE STOP ITS HIM ITS FUCKING HIM. THAT WAS SO GOOD I ENJOYED IT AND IS IT BAD I WANT MORE ? THO I WANNA KNOE HOW HE KILLED WOOYOUNG AND RYUJIN THO ? MAYBE I DO WANT A TIMELINE HOW HE MANAGED THAT. my theories i feel like HE GOT STABBED IN THE FIRST PART WAS KILLING THEM BOTH AND ALSO I FEEL LIKE IF YN DIDNT WALK IN HE MIGHTVHAVE KILLED BEOMGYU ? HE WOULD BE THE FIRST VICTIM IDK THOUGHTS. I havent watched scream iv yet maybe i shoulf now after this... also i was THINKING THE BOTH OF THEM (as in yeonjun and beomgyu) JUST WITNESSED YN AND TAEHYUN DO IT, WHILE THEY FIGHT TO SURVIVE BUT WHEN IT SAID THEY WERE KONCKED OUT I WAS RELIEVED. I WANNA KNOW IF YN LIVES OR NOT. jk no pressure i loved the ending it was GOOD AND I BELIEVE ITS GOOD CONSIDERING ITS HORROR/THRILLER . AS SOMEONE WHO LIKE THRILLER / HORROR ALOT THE ENDING SURELY DOES THE FIC JUSTICE BUT THO YN PLS I HOPE YOU SURVIVE. I HAVE RWAD IT LIKE THIRCE CUZ IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HE KILLED THEM OR STAB them ++ this fic game me major cant you see me mv vibes
HELLO AKLVAHDGFKLGJH i kid you not this ask got buried beneath all the chaos BAD. because i remember seeing this and being like ??? WHEN did this get sent in ?!?! you’d think it’d be impossible to miss a paragraph like this but,, its me we’re talking about unfortunately.
(full response under the cut!)
🤭🤭🤭 i will say that i was indeed trying to mess with the readers a bit when i threw that yeonjun scene in… like i knew it didn’t make sense given how the timeline went but idk. i like sneaking in a silly plot twist ! (i think it’d be insane if i did make yeonjun the killer. like how tf would that have worked)
im sure you’ve probably seen them already, (😭) but i’ve provided things in other asks like a timeline and insight on certain aspects of the story (huening and yeji, the reveal scene) and even a small ramble on what i think happened after the story ended :3 
NOW THE BEOMGYU THING… ooooh…. while beomgyu wasn’t a target (which is discussed in the ask where i talk about what happens after the fic ends) i think it definitely would’ve added an interesting new aspect to taehyun and mc’s relationship… it really make me think and wonder haha
im gonna be honest, scream iv was…. not for me…! not bc it was too gory or scary or whatever (the sfx was actually kinda cool to see aklaghd) but idk… the story was just kinda on the eh side for me. but this is also coming from a bitch who had never seen any of the scream franchise movies so,,, take that as you will. (i literally watched videos about the scream timeline to get a better understanding of the franchise and the tropes LMAO) 
i willlllll say that ive gotten requests about wpag for my 2k event (good and bad endings) so you’ll definitely be seeing more of them in the future!! but im so happy to hear that you think i did the thriller/horror genre justice omg, i always get a bit nervous when writing fics like these 😭😭but thank you again for your feedback ! <3333
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