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twc-thoughts-you-didnt-ask-for · 1 year

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i just wanted to get your response on this cuz you always give good reflections tehe. but so im very positive this is the most unpopular twc opinion, but unless i’m romancing them; i dont really like N much at all.

its not that they’ve done anything wrong per se… i think its just more that i dont feel that connected to them as a friend much, partly due to how invasive and morally righteous they can be(a bit of a statement i know). i especially disliked them coming to the detectives room in the demo and telling them how meaningful they are to the team like that. i def get that they meant it in a nice way, but i’d feel incredibly uncomfortable with it, especially considering i don’t like them that much. anyways🧎‍♀️ yolo

I can understand that, N can’t win them all lol

I can definitely understand the morally righteous thing, I have my own struggles on that with N specifically with the Rebecca situation, but it does all come from a good place at the end of the day.

I think that N showing up no matter the route, even in their own route, before breakfast is pretty interesting and one of the few times we see a private interaction that disregards who your BFF is but I totally get why it happens. N puts humanity on a pedestal and is grateful in every route for the humanity and life the detective breathes into UB and that’s really only something the detective gets told if N is the bestie or RO so this was the way that every detective gets to know that N values them.

#twc book 3 demo #twc book 3 spoilers #twc book 3 demo spoilers

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0-jloves-0-blog · 1 year

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Mishka pls be careful telling me this. You know im delusional and already 100% believe that UB is in love with the detective no matter what route you're on. This just feeds more into my delusion.

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seraphinitegames · 1 year

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Don't know if this has been asked, but when the detective successfully punches sin, all the RO (of course beyond the shock) are thinking that's hot right? Probably the funniest moment in the demo,imho. If I was the detective, I'd probably look at my hand and say "Did I just do that?"

It was mostly just more relief, hehe! :D

I'm actually writing the LI's point of view to this exact moment as Unseen Scenes on Patreon, and it's really exciting to be able to show just what they're thinking in that moment!

But yeah, mostly relief that the MC is okay...and being impressed!

Thank you so much for the ask! :)

#the wayhaven chronicles #asks #sin #twc sin #twc book 3 spoilers #twc book 3 demo #twc book 3 #patreon

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nabulsi · 2 years

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. . . it's almost easy for him to forget about it all. To deny the existence of everything so small down below.

What a wonderful way it would be to live once again.

Free.

-- The Wayhaven Chronicles: Book 3 by @seraphinitegames

#i said I'd make a moodboard and I did #its not as great as i wanted but i kinda got tired and so this is the best i got for now #twc sin #twc #the wayhaven chronicles #twc moodboard #paptalk #twc book 3 spoilers #twc book 3 demo

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pffpth · 1 year

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Usually charlotte is a Smart Person, but just once i decided to give her a stupid impulsive decision with the first set of trappers, and i did not feel disappointed

You ever see a man get Shockingly Upset by you getting hurt :^)

#the wayhaven chronicles #the wayhaven chronicles book 3 #twc 3 #twc m #twc mason #post the first trapper fight so just beyond the demo spoilers #i'm feeling something So Normal about how the romances evolved in this book

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wayhavenots · 1 year

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hi have this totally unnecessary ramble about Avery's Book 3 "canon" journey

BFF: I have a save with Farah as Avery's best friend and one with Morgan as her best friend and in my mind both are canon lol. (This is irrelevant but in my most recent full playthrough, there were a couple of choices that had Nate or Morgan saying "You sound like Adam," so while Adam is nowhere near Avery's best friend, they are so very similar.)

Tina/Verda/neither: Initially Avery was on the nobody-knows route, but after playing through all of them...I feel like Avery getting the cold shoulder from one of the few people she's let in as a friend would really shape the, uh, Avery straight-up not having a good time vibe that I'm going for. Abandonment issues activate. Then the dinner with Verda truly feels like something high stakes for her.

Research/Combat: Avery's state of mind right after the Trapper/Annunaki thing is very "Oh so a fun new power, nice nice nice, I don't recognize myself anymore, sweet," so while I like the research scene more (the picnic! and the reveal about soul bonds which did not lead to a conversation about soulmates the way i was hoping but I digress)...I think she decides to work on her combat, in case she has any other secret physical abilities hiding that she needs to know about.

Bobby/Douglas: oof it's just so delicious for Nate to introduce himself to Bobby Marks and to tell him he's heard so many things ("All good I assume." "Not really.") and then to tell Avery that he would treat her better than Bobby during the research scene and then for Bobby to wish she didn't hate him...but also I liked the idea of an N-mancer having to deal with that Douglas decision and later (my headcanon) asking Nate if they did the right thing. That's all to say, each is equally canon in my mind. And she feels pretty conflicted both ways 🙃

Rebecca: Part of Avery's character is thinking she's not emotionally driven when actually she's incredibly emotionally-driven. (My favorite brand of arospec character.) She doesn't team up with Rebecca because, above all the resentment, she doesn't want her to get hurt. She wants to be closer...but knows in her heart that they never will be, because the fundamental issue between them isn't the secrets or the lies... it's Rook and the hole he left, which Rebecca is unwilling to fill, it's the fact that Avery wasn't what Rebecca wanted...and on some level Avery gets it.

Relationship Trigger: Of course there are several opportunities for Avery to stop resisting the call of the relationship with Nate, but I think she waits until the end of the book.

And it's not because she's finally fallen in love or because she's convinced that it's a good idea or opened up her heart... It's because she's terrified of everything that's happened to her, to the people around her, terrified of losing everyone (including Nate but also including Tina and Verda and Douglas and Bobby and Rebecca and UB), hates that her choices have consequences, she just wanted to look at stars, etc.

And it would make Nate so happy (in contrast to everyone she's made so miserable or put in danger), he's in love with her, what's wrong with her that she doesn't feel the same way, etc.

My initial plan going into Book 3 was that Nate and Avery would discuss the overprotectiveness/"I won't let you" comment, they would reach some kind of mutual understanding, and Avery would see that he doesn't underestimate her...and that didn't happen. But as it stands... The overprotectiveness/"I won't let you" was frustrating to her, but I don't think it sincerely bothers her in the end because, as much as she feels underestimated, she's having a hard time knowing how to, like, estimate herself.

(Also I know the narration is very adamant that the detective essentially feels the same way and is just holding back for no reason (actually there is somewhere where I think it says the very reasonable thing that the detective doesn't actually know that much about N). But!! I am indeed projecting some arospecness onto Avery instead!! or at least some escapist and people-pleasing tendencies that will make her really perfect for Nate when she really does start to feel the same way, which she will, eventually, just not yet.)

#avery lin #twc book 3 #twc b3 spoilers #i imagine it's going to be even harder to project this emotional journey onto avery by book 4 demo time and i'll have to rethink it all #but idk the tl dr is that ofc avery is not having a good time so she didn't make that decision for good reasons #i refuse to commit to avery being demiromantic but

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leirsulien-archive · 2 years

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it's so funny how angsty A is about the blood drinking thing in the demo meanwhile alex doesn't really give a shit and liv is all "ahaha *twirls hair* what if you used my neck as a juice box 👀😳"

#once again absolute clown shoes #like it wouldnt even be a thing if they didnt make it one #pearlsandrambles #t: text #twc book 3 spoilers #twc spoilers #twc book 3 demo

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0-jloves-0-blog · 1 year

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Knowing rebecca her ass probably lying about everything under the sun. Her name probably not even rebecca. She'd tell the detective that the sky is green if she could.

"I felt like it wasn't an important statement to know😁" and the important statement in question is her lying about when the detective's actual birthday is.

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sevlawless · 1 year

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okay so the n route has been bothering me ever since i played it and i needed to air my frustrations out as a way to cope i suppose

for reference my main detective who i use for n is felicity, but sometimes i also use arabella to test out some options i wouldn't normally pick and just to see how the romance works with a detective that isn't exactly that compatible with n. so when i first played, i used felicity and then later on when i was doing a deep dive into the romance and the plot, i was using arabella just to see if certain things held up yk! and lord how i wish it did LMFAO

just a little disclaimer that this is all just my opinion and i'm willing to listen to other points of view about this! and i do not mean any of what i say as a dig or to be hateful toward n, they are my favorite li in twc and the fact that i love their romance and their character so much is probably most if not all of the reason why their route in book 3 was so weird to me, and why i make the critiques that i do.

under the cut because this is a doozy and also book 3 spoilers

first of all the main thing in the demo chapters is that n gets mad if you try and fight the trappers bc they are so scared of losing you and like i GUESS i get it but this is literally our life now you're just gonna have to get used to it. and this wouldn't have even been an big issue for me if it was properly addressed! when i played using arabella i tried being mad, i tried staying mad, and it kept getting swept under the rug by the plot. like are we seriously not going to talk about this??? at all?????? and it seems very ooc for n NOT to say anything about it when you get a moment alone because why would they not address it, ESPECIALLY if your mc was still upset over it. AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE IN A RELATIONSHIP LIKE- these things need to be discussed in order to grow as a couple and there needs to be healthy communication or else this is not going to work. like you're telling me we were living with unit bravo for WEEKS and this shit just never got brought up again?

this also ties into my next gripe- n's backstory. so, if you snooped in the demo they won't tell you anything, which okay. mc shouldn't have done that, sure, but n doesn't even give a reason as to why they're upset by that. obviously you can be like "well i think anyone would be upset if you delved into their past without their knowledge or permission" but YOU ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS PERSON WHY IS THERE NO COMMUNICATION OF FEELINGS. i would have appreciated that scene a hell of a lot more if n sat you down and was like "i'm upset that you did this, here's why," but all they do is get sad and then that's it. when i played as arabella i had her snoop AND get upset over the argument during the trapper fight, and n said something along the lines of "i know sometimes we regret doing things" as a reference to snooping AND the argument which??? just does NOT hold up at all and had me irritated as hell.

if you didn't snoop in the demo, n takes you to their room and shows you a picture of their family and talks about them and how his brother joined the navy and didn't come back (their brother was killed by vampires) and that's why they decided to join the navy, as a way to try and figure out what actually happened. this scene started off great, but it's cut short way too quickly because n drops the photo and the frame breaks. and then they basically just shoo you out. there's really not any option to comfort them, and the option that is there is not good enough. and it's not that n had to tell us EVERYTHING in that one scene, but it's more so the fact that it NEVER gets brought up again. your mc can't take a moment to bring it up and n sure as hell doesn't say anything else about it. which is so ?????? im sorry you supposedly love this person (im saying this for both mc and n) and yet neither of you address it again??? it makes no sense at all.

onto the research/combat scene… i've done the combat scene once so i can't really speak on that as much as the research one so. most of the research scene is fine aside from the fact if you're not in a relationship (which i did for one playthrough with felicity) n brings up bobby if you dated them which felt so bizarre but anyways. the option to realize you love n… i would love this IF the option where you tell n you love them actually mattered. LMFAO if you tell n you love them they literally just stare at you and then the sex scene pops up. like are you kidding me??? n would not just leave you hanging like that even if it was just to say that they don't feel that way yet. and the sex scene itself is… fine i suppose but it doesn't feel as intimate as it should be. there's little to no dialogue and it just feels so weird to read. like why would neither of you be saying anything?? not to mention the fact that you're literally OUTSIDE of the warehouse where any of ub could see you at any point it just feels wrong to have sex at that point at least in my opinion. and the talk after feels so short and weird i feel like both the detective and n would have more to say. and that moment is quickly brushed away by the plot.

i guess the next plot line is whether u told tina or verda or nobody about the supernatural. going into book 3 this was probably what i looked forward to the most and ofc it barely delivered. i liked seeing tina and n interact but that quickly turned sour for me, not because tina started rightfully bringing up how much mc has been through, but because n really does not do anything with that pov being voiced to them, which is so fucking ooc it pains me. when they go to talk to mc after their conversation there's no discussion just "i wanted to see you" okay but WHY did you? i would have taken a li pov of what tina relayed to them literally anything! and it's just another thing that gets swept under the rug because of the stupid ass plot.

another thing about the dinner that gets lost in the plot of book 3: tina/verda bringing up your li possibly drinking your blood and mc can react a number of different ways and i wish it had been talked about more than just in that moment 😭

the only scene that i genuinely enjoyed in all of n's route was after that building caves in on mc and you're back at the warehouse traumatized and bruised and defeated. n runs you a bath and if you pick that option helps you out of your clothes and then helps you settle into bed. i wish there had been more discussion of anything in that scene but mc was so out of it i was okay with no talking. and then redacted petname <3 the other thing i was most looking forward to! one thing i did dislike about this scene though was that we didn't really get a glimpse on how n was feeling yk usually mishka offers the li's pov on a scene and not having that made that moment not feel as rounded out.

the pool scene… first of all why did n get this one. like it would have made sense for m, hell even a! and again the scene felt so shallow and then the option to have sex. you're telling me your first time with n can be on a fucking pool table???? that is so not their vibe AT ALL and it feels so weird to even have that there. it was unnecessary as well as the other opportunity to have sex and i feel like mishka just put them in there as like fan service when who (in my opinion) genuinely wants this if they romance n and have them as their main route. i had hoped the first time n and mc have the opportunity to have sex it would be a more intimate setting because that's more fitting for them and my nate mc, felicity. but nope! and then the scene gets cut short because n has to go on patrol??? and again the sex scene itself … neither of them feel personable it's like a "one size fits all" type of approach and that just does not work if this is supposed to be interactive fiction where we create a personality for our mc's that cannot fit this specific mold mishka wants to put everyone in.

being invited to what might as well just be a fucking slave trade (i have many thoughts about this auction plotline as well but for now im discussing n's route) had me so confused because why would mishka even do that and then n's comment about the stationary? i need you to be fucking for real. the scene before you leave for the mission with n just felt so weird like we get it n is protective of mc but at this point it just felt like a hinderance which sucks because one of the things i love most about n is their deep care for mc and they just sounded like a broken record and it annoyed me so bad.

after all that, the scene when you come back and n is in tears confessing their love for mc i wanted to enjoy it i really did and i just could not upon replaying because it feels so unbelievably hollow. we have not discussed anything pertaining our relationship and when there are things that need to be discussed they are so underwhelming it's hard to even care. there are a handful of things n and mc both need to work on in order for this relationship to work and the fact that they're not being addressed makes it difficult for me to enjoy anything about this route. you can't even tell n you love them back for fuck's sake like hello.

a theme that i did not think was going to be as prominent as it was in this book but n contemplating mc turning into a vampire and AGAIN there wasn't ever really a discussion about this between mc and n and i feel like this will come to a head as the books progress but i don't think it fit into book 3 considering so many other things were being thrown at us.

all in all i truly desperately wanted to enjoy book 3 and enjoy being with n but i cannot when there are so many things ignored, sidelined, or just completely forgotten in order to push the plot forward.

#n sewell #twc book 3 #twc book 3 spoilers #again this is in no way an attack on n i love them sm it's embarrassing at times #i just wanted better for their route and for this book and it sucks bc these are such minor tweaks in the grand scheme of things -#but when they pile up like this it becomes hard to ignore and just feels like the amount of discrepancies is overwhelming #it has been a horrible couple of days being natesewell . LMFAO #anyway if u made it this far thanks for reading <3 #i seriously was debating even making this post as well but my brain needed to do SOMETHING like #ugh .#twc is such a comfort to me and so is n it's just hard to not take this so hard #and i know that probably sounds ridiculous to say since this is literally just fiction #but yea !#feel free to send me asks/dms abt this i would love to discuss this more

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brother-genitivi · 1 year

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AHHHHH WAYHAVEN BRAINWORMS COMING BACK IN FULL FORCE

I'm seeing my bff tomorrow and we are reading book 3 together <3 we've made a pact not to read a single word without each other skdjdjfkd I've avoided spoilers thus far so we're going into it blind apart from the public demo before release teehee

She's an A romancer and I'm an M romancer AKSJFKS I get the feeling we're gonna go THROUGH it

I'll be using the tags 'twc book 3 spoilers' and 'twc spoilers' if u want to block them :)

#leo's stuff #twc

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anxietytwist · 2 years

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I really love these 2 responses the Detective can give A about why they (in their own words) appear like a "drowned-rat":

#twc #twc book 3 demo #twc book 3 #spoilers #twc spoiler #twc spoilers #the Wayhaven Chronicles #Wayhaven Chronicles #spoiler #the wayhaven chronicles book 3 #screenshot #IF #interactive fiction #if: the wayhaven chronicles #the wayhaven chronicles IF

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nabulsi · 2 years

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update!

On the situation with the transphobic line in the TWC book 3 demo.

Check here for more info on that:

I was looking through the book 3 demo again, and while Mishka has not made any announcements of this, I noticed that the line was completely removed from that part of chapter 5. So Mishka has heard us and acted on the feedback.

Again, Mishka has not announced anything so there might be further changes and she might make an official announcement of that, but I wanted to make a note of the good news! Especially for the anon who came to me in the first place -- that is your influence, anon 💖

I'll show what was changed below the cut:

Again this is from the Ava Route, but the Nat and Farah route are similar. Only the Morgan line was removed, and Nat now refers to Farah only.

"What?" I ask, swivelling around and letting out a long breath at the figure bounding our way. "Hey, look. It's your competition, Ava," Farah mumbles so as I almost can't hear, nudging the commanding agent with an elbow. Ava barely bites back a growl at her through gritted teeth. Nat sighs. "Be nice to the young lad, Farah." I stand from my place in order to cut Douglas off before he reaches the vampires.

I noticed one line was changed for the Morgan route specifically, as she now makes a different comment, and Nat gives a different reaction. You can see it here:

"Hey, look. It's your competition, Morgan," Farah comments while throwing a grin over to her. Morgan lifts a brow. "I'm pissed you think that is competition for me." "'That' is a person, Morgan," Nat reprimands. "Be nice."

#twc #the wayhaven chronicles #twc critical #twc book 3 spoilers #twc book 3 demo

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