they’re going to do china (and dara renee) dirty i fear :( disney used them for promotion, but it’s assumed they won’t have many scenes. china confirmed on live her scenes are minor.. i feel bad for her because she expressed promoting was uncomfortable for her in the first place (bc grief maybe)
Oh, how I feel the same, Anon.
I don't even blame China for feeling uncomfortable. I don't care what anyone says, she deserves a break, to be left alone and not bashed anymore by certain people.
I wouldn't even be surprised if Disney did do them dirty. Disappointed, but definitely not surprised.
Given the supposed plot of the film, Uma doesn't even have to be involved, but given that she is a very popular character (possibly the most popular) and Disney knows that, she was going to be written in to drawn in fans to watch the film. They're banking on that. At most, they're gonna have an Uma cameo. Which would suck because if they really want to please the fans, give my girl a whole musical sequence, give her half the time of the movie.
Let's be honest, without Uma, without China's amazing performance as Uma, the franchise would not be that big of a succession.
That's not to say everyone else didn't do that great of a job or their characters aren't as good as her. But let's just be real here.
Uma is a big hit. Almost everyone has her a favorite character. If that wasn't true, Disney wouldn't be using her for the next film. (If you somehow don't like Uma, I don't trust you, just saying. Don't care to hear the reasons why.)
And oh, I have thoughts for Dara, too!
Disney already done her dirty by giving her a role that practically doesn't make sense.
From my understanding, wasn't Dara first casted to be Chloe Charming? A princess?!
Even though the film is now called "Rise of Red", we know Chloe has a big part. But why isn't Dara playing her? Why isn't this black girl who is amazingly talented playing a princess who has a big role? Why did they cast Dara to play Ulyanna, Ursula's sister (who never has been mentioned before they just made her up for the movie when URSULA ALREADY HAS A SISTER, but I forgot! The series is supposedly ignoring sequels of the animated films) and a villain who most likely has a minor role in this film?
To me, it's just Disney's way "catering to representation but not wanting to cater too much". "You're in the movie. Be happy with that."
Note how when they cast black women and girls as characters in Descendants. They're all villainous, antagonistic in some way. Celia was someone who didn't have an "antagonistic" role really, granted because she is a child, but they advertised her as such and she did something bad, throwing the ember in water. (Which honestly, I chuckled at. I say let Celia have that because she was lied to. Have a great relationship with her dad and she was lied to. Shaking my head.)
Watch, they're gonna have Brandy's Cinderella be some neglectful mother or something. Or some bratty teen during their high school years. Hope I'm wrong about that.
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my unpopular descendants opinions All three movies
These are my opinions not facts and like stated above they’re unpopular there’s a chance your favorite character might be came for or a scene you felt strongly about, I strongly disagreed with. I’m not stating really obvious things either like: Ben shouldn’t have been crowned King at 16.
* Jane got off lightly. She was just as much of a bitch to the Vks as Audrey was but she’s generally the one forgiven.
I think Jane is fake, she’s on whoever is the winning team’s side EX: If Ben decided to date any other AK and Mal or Audrey she would’ve be friended them and ditched everybody else
Family day was overdramatic and you could definitely tell that they C4 were teenagers with their decision making
They had ONE bad day in Auradon after for the most part, being treated well and even becoming popular to the point they were questioning their decision
But ONE bad day and they decide to go through with taking over Auradon and it’s not like anybody was lying on them.
Sorry Queen Leah is another thing but Chad wasn’t lying about anything and for them to know he wasn’t and sit and get offended was dumb
They came over to Auradon with Bad intentions and got to roam around freely and took advantage of it
Mal did steal Audrey's Boyfriend by drugging him, Jay was stealing, Evie was gold digging.
Evie shouldn’t have put her hand in his face if she didn’t want him to push it out of his face.
Because like I said above he wasn’t wrong, Evie didn’t really care too much about Chad as a person she was interested in the fact that he was a Prince.
Was it Prince behavior no? But was he 100% dead wrong no?
Audrey was really the one who started that fight at Family day too
Ben’s whole VK plan was messy when you take into account Leah’s reaction at family day.
The OG heroes should’ve at least been informed that their respective villains children were coming over so they were aware and a situation like Leah wouldn’t happen.
I mean Leah treats her own granddaughter like shit depending on who’s she is dating so she definitely wasn’t going to treat Mal any better but let’s say her reaction at family day was out of pure trauma.
It could’ve been avoided if she was informed and didn’t actually end up standing next to her enemy's daughter.
Ben’s whole plan was dumb and messy.
Giving the VKs restrictions isn’t the same as punishing them for their parent’s crimes
Realistically speaking they were on the Isle taught solely by their villain parents and other villains so it would’ve been sense to ease into giving them trust.
Because looked how that turned out they tried to take over Auradon and their king got drugged all because they didn’t want the VKs to think they were being punished for their parent’s crimes.
I think the VKs not getting any punishment for changing their minutes at the last minute was BS. Especially if these are the same people mad Audrey got off too.
The vks had ample time to change their minds, were considering dropping the plan and when they got in their feelings decided to go through with it.
They had everything to gain staying in Auradon and the only thing they lost was their abusive controlling parents
But they very much got rewarded for changing their mind on bad behavior last minute and it shows throughout the other movies.
That’s why they were so comfortable going in out of the isle without permission especially with the king unprotected.
Because they knew no matter what happened at the end of the day nothing would really happen to them because they had the king’s favor.
Evie was kind of a dick to me when she assumed Uma was going to destroy Auradon and that’s why she wanted the wand. I don’t completely not understand her thinking because She kidnapped Ben to get to the wand.
But no Uma had to have wanted to hurt somebody and not her wanting to get herself and any other kid off the Isle after they 4 of you unfairly got picked.
That’s another thing, it was dumb to pick the 4 ‘worst’ kids because how does that look to the other kids who might’ve wanted a better life.
The one’s who terrorize us here get to be the first ones to get the better things in life and later on we basically have to apply to even leave but also ass kiss the four of them to even get a chance.
Uma stans do acknowledge that she was wrong for spelling Ben but it’s often lighten/ brushed over.
We have to acknowledge the fact that Ben would’ve talked to Uma if she just attempted to after she jumped through the Barrier.
He wouldn’t have thrown her right back in he would’ve spoke to and defended her if she tried but she didn’t she went straight to the love spell
Lonnie is just as fake as Jane is when it comes to homie hopping.
She went fuck Ben and I stand with you Mal real quick for somebody who was supposed to have a sibling like relationship with him
Audrey turning villain was no surprise and I feel especially like the adults should hold themselves accountable more.
My opinion on this matter is biased, especially when comparing to how I’m digging into the VKs above but I’ll say because their actions are excused in canon and largely forgive in the fandom.
At the end of the day I know Audrey had other options than going rogue and she was wrong for that period.
But as fucked up as it sounds I don’t think she would’ve ever done that if it weren’t for her circumstances.
She would’ve lived a responsible life, spending her days cheerleading, and preparing for royal duties.
But instead not only did her relationship fall apart she was shunned.
Jane, Lonnie and everybody else stopped talking to her and favored Mal to the point where people were ignoring her when she spoke and asking why she showed up to Jane’s birthday party.
So of course in her mind Dating Ben/ Being next in line for Queen= being treated like a human.
Because all of these people ignoring her were kissing her ass when she was with Ben
Girl had depression and flunked in school and had to take summer school because it was fucking her up.
continuously she was straight up ignored whenever she said something because she wasn’t seen as anything to be worried about
Straight up insulted by adults she probably looked up to (Belle)
And when people (her grandma) did speak to her it was to tear her down and degrade her.
So she became a threat and something they can’t straight up ignore anymore.
Ideally I’d like for that to happen by her thriving and living her best life but she had to choose evil.
That whole let’s get along bs Evie was doing the entire movie was a waste of time.
If Mal decided Uma and her crew were enemies, Evie and the other 2 yes Men would’ve turned on Uma and did as Mal said.
So she shouldn’t be surprised nobody wanted to be kumbaya with them
Nobody forced or pressured Mal to close the barrier
A large part of it was her not wanting anybody to find out her daddy was Hades.
She straight up says she did it for them (the c4) and the lives they had there
Auradon being safe or any of the VKs were not her priority when she made the decision.
Ben’s little “so have I” irked me because if anybody should’ve been talked to her in three years it should’ve been you
Him thinking she was fine because she rebounded with chad is one thing but literally watching her not only fade from his life but Auradon period and being MIA after being together all the time and had no clue???
Guess he was too busy dealing with Mal’s bs
Headcanon Mal still has him spelled.
Hades little speech was bullshit, he earned his punishment and so did all of his fellow villains
Compared to him Audrey was literally a ticking time bomb everybody ignored because they didn’t care and they fucked around and found out.
and not only that the daughter he was standing in front of saying this played a big part in it so you might want to shut up.
Mal did what she did out of malice, I refused to believe her “I didn’t mean to” bs when it comes to Audrey because Audrey’s name stayed in her mouth whenever she was talking shit.
Audrey was correct in not getting a punishment not because her actions were a result of the adults failing to notice her depression and other kids contributing to it but simply because nobody else did
C4 weren’t punished in D1 Mal was never punished for her fuck shit, Uma and her friends weren’t given formal punishments from what I understand (especially with it being a known fact Uma spelled Ben for her own gain unlike Mal’s lying ass saying she did it for love. She was wanted to be captured though I believe)
So why should Audrey out of everybody be the only who got a formal punishment, I think not
Audrey being kumbaya with them at the end was too soon, she should’ve left Auradon, healed and never spoke to them again.
Because like I said she was at first a ticking time bomb and now that she exploded everybody wants to be civil now?
She needed new friends a new life everything.
Uma too, she shouldn’t have to be friends with Mal either
C4 forgiving Mal for her decision to shut the barrier down was not their place in my opinion.
Of course you’ll forgive her because it really isn’t doing anything to you having it shut down especially Evie she got the kid she wanted off of there
This wasnt about them this was about the kids who didnt even have the choice nor would they be aware of it, had Mal went through it
It wasn’t about C4 and their hurt feelings about Mal lying
Do I even need to say them taking down the barrier was dumb?
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when you're feeling up to it. can we get the ros reactions when they find out that it was a mosquito bite? [especially want to see if j, kai, and travis understand the meaning of 'eating crow'. and uma deserves a hug. statler too! wanda the queen of handling things calmly, a champ.]
AAA ofc! Part 1
Jade/Jean- “... Ah.” J pauses awkwardly. Their eyes narrow, anchored in that one spot on your neck. “You should— No, I’m not explaining why I was mad. Just— C’mere, I’m worried about that. Let me take care of it, okay?”
Uma- they pale almost instantly, shuddering, paranoid as they look around with a grimace. “[Name]—” they say, deadly serious, “I’m not fucking stepping foot in your house unless you kill that monster.”
Statler- “I already... Knew that?” Statler winces, “Okay— I thought it was a love bite.” And then they apologize. Profusely, and they apologize some more. “I really don’t know how to fix that, though... No— [Name] don’t you date scratch it.”
Wanda- “Oh my God. That’s actually really scary,” she shudders a little. Unlike Uma, Wanda isn’t terrified of bugs, though that doesn’t mean she remotely likes them. “You’re gonna find this funny, though! You see— I thought that bite was a hickey and was kinda flipping my shit over here!”
Kai- “Whaaaat? No fucking way,” Kai snorts, laughs—you swear you see them flush—they they cradle your face, twist it so they get a better view of the mosquito bite, and they laugh harder.
Travis- “What kind of mosquito even does that? It—” Travis huffs, flushes, he avoids your gaze like it’s a pest (luckily gets mad at something that isn’t you) “Is it fucking Australian or what?”
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