#well her and firestar

[glittergoats]

Brambleclaw and Squirrelstar, Thunderclan royalty

#warrior cats #wc #brambleclaw #bramblestar #squirrelflight #squirrelstar #a starless clan #human wc #my art #updates to their designs i drew like a month ago #they're in their 60s now #bramble's hair went completely white after the ashfur situation resolved itself #he continues to shave his beard since he thinks it makes him look like tigerstar (ashfur did not shave during his time in brambles body) #squilf looks amazing of course #the necklace she's wearing is the one on my leafpool design which she started wearing after her passing #i wanna do a fullbody design eventually bc i think she'd wear firestars coat as well

[marsbotz]

*reading any warriors content ever* wheres firestar.

#sorry repost lol i added the text #warrior cats #warriors #firestar #firestar wc #doodlez #originla tags -> #UGHHHHHH. i love him #do u ever think abt him. ever #im on arc 2. im miserable #forever thinking abt fireheart losing so much of his trust during the whole bluestar breakdown thing. #thinking abt cinderpelt comparing him to bluestar in her final days. #thinking abt prophecies and destinies and starclan and losing hope. #well. i canntot draw all that out yet LOL im still learning how to draw kitties. but i can sure doodle him. #hope you like my designnnn smiles. basic but i think hes cute #artsbotz

[yuridovewing]

this is such a normal book series that doesnt have any weird trends whatsoever

#finally a xenophobic spark moment i actually disagree with btw #but even now im like. well alderheart was being a lil bitch about this long before her so. #as that one person a while back said it WOULD be interesting if spark was an anti firestar who went against everything he stood for #and even looked down on cats like him. but ik thats not what the writers care about. #avos liveread

[perenlop]

anyways the brightheart graphic novel was…. ok. the cloudbright moments carried it. the backhanded attempts at justifying the ableism are uncomfortable and drag it down.

what confused me was like… the lack of the dog pack trauma? like its there, the opening and nightmare scenario show it, but theyre very short and dont really connect to the conflict besides “uhh tigerstar caused the attack, this guy breathed next to tigerstar, he might have his evil germs….. doing such sins like. taking food….. how horrible” like brightheart had half her faced ripped off and was given a cruel name by her former LEADER out of spite for something she wasnt involved in nor was her fault. she was near death and subjected to strange backhanded behavior from her peers. her best friend died extremely violently in front of her!!! she gets like one line about being afraid of her daughter growing up in this harsh world and. not much else?

idk if we were gonna get a brightheart centric story then i would have wanted it to focus on all that, maybe elaborate more on her fears for whitekit and also being paranoid of motherhood in general given what shes been through and what she may experience, instead of this weird narrative about “how useful she can be despite having only one eye”

#i will give the gn writers and artist this. theyre at least really good at character moments #im assuming theyre limited on scale and events bc this period has been covered a lot #and the editing team has a chokehold on what theyre able to do #bc aside from the writing and ableism the characters themselves feel nice. i like how brightheart was characterized #cloudtails more ehhh for me in this if only bc he was like ‘’no…. firestar may run off….. and become a housecat…. the horrors #but that wasnt too much of the book and otherwise hes brighthearts yesman which is nice #what i wont give them though is how brightheart looks. cmon man make the scar bigger. half her face was ripped off #i always imagined that part of her lip was gone #and the ear was straight up gone and shes probably somewhat deaf in it as well #designs that just have the flesh around the eye gone is like boooooooooooo #echoed voice #also give her more scars in general! she survived a dog attack she was mauled she was half dead #im sure it was done to be like ‘’oh its not scary to look at’’ but that just makes me more annoyed bc thats not something to tone down

[ryeheart]

Hollyleaf! She really should’ve been leader

#trying out something more stylized :) #also using a new program so it came out a bit pixalated and I couldn’t figure out how to make it transparent #so for now I’m gonna have backgrounds lol #she’s one of my favorite characters for sure #I tried giving her the same fingerless glove style markings my scourge has as well as firestars swoopy hair #she’s also chunky like Leafpool but also very bulky and muscular #at least that’s what I tried to get across lol #hollyleaf #po3 #warriors #warriors fanart #warriors art #warrior cats #thunderclan #I like to think firestar saw her and thought of scourge #oh yeah and the three berry pattern thing on her flank is supposed to represent her jay and lion #with the tunnel also symbolizing that she is not part of The Three #I also like the theory that she was supposed to be part of the three but something happened #maybe even that she broke the prophecy herself on purpose #and half her nose being black half being pink showing she’s half clan in a symbolic way too

[arolesbianism]

I was abt to be like hey guys here's the clangen sprites for the main characters of spiraling upwards ^-^ but luckily I caught myself before I accidentally dropped some Massive spoilers by doing so lol. Anyways take Whimsygoose, Pumpkin, and Daisystar instead because they're so cutsies <3

#rat rambles #spiraling upwards #warriors posting #idc if pumpkin has nothing going on except having a wife I Will make her relevant to the plot somehow mark my word #ok ok tbf whimsygoose and pumpkin will likely have similar levels of relevance since theyre both murtlepaw's clanmates #and both get a lil boost since I like them lol #well whimsygoose is the deputy's mate so it's not like he has no reason to come up #daisystar is very much relevant tho even if his screentime is probably going to be a lil limited #mostly because of ~plot reasons~ #aka he gets real fucking paranoid over the course of the plot #oh also fun fact whimsygoose is deaf! guy who's always been loud looses ability to tell hes loud thousands found dead #and pumpkin is a lesbian and also my best friend and thats all that truly matters <3 #oh unrelated but one of whimsygoose and thistlepeaks's kids ended up named fireice so thats fun #he is another guy who doesnt matter to the plot but I like him anyways he's silly #oh also daisystar is also gay he has a husband 👍 #alas not all of the leaders are gay firestar (previously firenip) is alas probably straight #I wanna believe she could be bi or pan but thatd just make me feel more bad for blazebelly girlie was so in love with her #conestar is a lesbian tho and honeystar is. a weird one. #like she technically has a mate kind of but its more of a. coping mechanism for them both than anything? #long story short the clans first medic died a couple moons ago and his medic husband silentfleck and honeystar took it poorly #he was both of their closest friend and neither knew what to do with themselves afterwards #their current relationship is a mix of a rebound and a qpr sort of #theyre depression buddies who constantly worry eachother but know that if they vocalized this the other would mention their worries #andneither of them want to be confronted with their downward spiral directly so they just normalize it for themselves and eachother instead #so this is my long way of saying I have no idea what honeystar's sexuality is Ive thought abt it and I don't know what I wanna do with that #like Im leaning towards aro cause of my aro bias but I almost kinda wanna make her demiro or even pan #it doesn't rly matter to the main story tho so I've been not thinking abt it too hard for now #oh also speaking of aro characters I should mention murtlepaw's name is mispelled on purpose #as a kit murtle met a cat with a nickname and was like I want one of those and then made one up #so they just took turtle and replaced the t to combine it and their deadname

[rainsnap]

I love how in Sky you have Sunbeam and Nightheart just chilling, stealing fair food, dealing with simple issues like "oh no, my clan doesn't appreciate my horrible attitude" or "my best friend and crush got together and now everyone is pitying me + my mother's past trauma is causing her to hate my brother's girlfriend"

and Frostpaw is over there just Dying. Just casually falling apart with things like "I saw my mom be torn apart and now I have to pick someone else to be leader and walk them down this very same path and experience the trauma again every single time" and "I, a literal child, am being pressured into picking a new leader because I apparently have the skills to talk to dead cats and Oh No I don't think I can actually????" I get the theme for each of them is being isolated in their own clans but Boy Howdy is one of these things not like the others!

#warrior cat spoilers #sky spoilers #nightheart #sunbeam #frostpaw #Also I hate that Nightheart and Sunbeam are love interests please stop this #Nightheart is a Child still and also an idiot #Sunbeam deserves way better than that guy and I hope the two break up once Sunbeam sees what a horrible cat Nightheart is #and I guess well Nightheart isn't horrible he has his points but like? the point is dumb and made up by the authors for drama #literally all the cats are related to Firestar somehow they should have had Jayfeather be like #"oh yeah I had this whole prophecy of being related to that guy #and it got my sister killed and my heart broken by allowing me to time travel and fall in love with cat #don't worry tho I made her become a nun so it was all fair I guess #being related to Firestar sure is hard ain't it? Oh wait #you don't have a horrible prophecy about you and just hate woman? yeah that's a you problem

[dogwise]

why should Lionblaze should get to pass off Russetfur’s death as “accidental” when he attacked her knowing full well he couldn’t lose any battle?

#I get he was trying to protect firestar #but still #and then the fact that they were say #well russetfur was too old to be in battle anyway it’s her own fault #hmm #wc #reading night whispers

[maraschinotopped]

what if there was a comic that was, on the surface, a very poorly written and made warrior cats comic about one-note characters that leaned heavily into tropes (wc and general ones) all drawn in ms paint, but around 50-60 pages the narrative is shifted wildly off course as instead of the main character meeting the love interest at their first gathering, they instead fuck off and befriend a background cat who was never supposed to fully exist instead. this causes a domino effect of things to happen- like characters forming different relationships than what were planned and personalities developing differently. more and more drastic measures are made by 'starclan' to course correct- until one of their messengers misinterprets their sign and messes up things permanently, causing the two to be aware that none of their world is actually real. though there were plenty of signs beforehand- it was just that one last thing that confirmed it for good.

would that be fucked up or what?

#[cherry on top] #[cats everywhere] #does that synopsis make sense? im hoping it makes sense. hopefully. hm. #anyways. i remembered an idea i got back in dec 2021 and kicked out this in an hour or two #not even into wc that much anymore! i just like developing concepts lol #third image is a bunch of character concepts cus in the original idea doc i only developed goldenpaw and spotpaw #from left to right: #icicleclaw- the tigerclaw replacement lol. was supposed to be the big baddie of the story #overshadowed later by literally all the bullshit that happens which i think is funny #jaggedpaw- brother of goldenpaw and the stereotypical bully. would eventually stand up 4 golden in the climax methinks. #n/a- the 'greystripe' to goldenpaw. starts drifting away from goldenpaw after a bit. #eventually betrays him due to 'starclan's wishes + orders and to follow her mentor (yellowhaze) #streamheart- the love interest. starts developing an actual personality after she doesnt meet goldenpaw lol #peltstar- the leader of the clan spotpaw is in (the mainly irrelevant clan in the story) #flamestar- leader of goldenpaws clan. obvs just a firestar ripoff!!! hes just a nice guy ig. #nearly has a heart attack later in the story due to. things that happen. #darkpaw- son of evil leader in the evil clan equiv. possibly temp. exiled + given the scar to 'toughen him up' #i had the idea of them and streamheart being besties in his exile... #yellowhaze- yellowfang adjacent. is the one who misinterprets the sign. #well technically he didnt misinterpret it at first. he just jumped to the wrong conclusion after goldenpaw jumped in. #theres something wrong with him <3 failboy medicine cat. #also addendum. i dont actually plan on like. actually doing this comic. #it WOULD be cool to do but like. im an idea guy not an actual product guy. T.T'' #dont have a long enough attention span or will to go through with a whole comic. unfortunately.

[stellar-jay]

testing clipstudio paint with everybodys favorite wayward nun

#id like to imagine her face is all jake (and firestar) #she just works so well for this soft style #sweet baby kitty eyes that could make you agree happily to any medical procedure. if you say so leafpool i trust u #also GODDAMN CSP BRUSHES ARE ***NICE*** #warrior cats #warriors #leafpool #wc art #wc designs

[neofelis----nebulosa]

i know ive said wc isnt really a main interest for me but something I am very disproportionately angry about and think about often is how much of a waste of a prefix sparkpelt is. like spark was a great prefix and they just used the most generic suffix in the series with it. there was so much potential and they just threw it away.

#sparkfire is objectively really cool but i get that they might not want to go that direction bc its kinda on the nose with the whole... #...firestar clone thing #like i can see how it might be taking it too far #but sparkstorm after sandstorm would be really cool #like a huge eruption of sparks spitting out from a fire #really cool imagery that would suit her well (i think i havent read a lot of the books with her in it) #other cool ideas are sparkblaze sparkbreeze sparkeye (like the expression spark in her eyes idk it could work i think) #sparkflame sparkflight sparkhaze sparkheart sparkmist sparkscratch sparkshine sparksky sparksplash sparkstrike sparkwind #yeah i just went down the line of suffixes on the warrior cats wiki and picked out the ones i thought would work #but yeah

[nyarthru]

the recent warrior ship survey has reminded me of the existence of swiftpaw/brightheart and how most of the fandom doesn't know that they are. cousins. Which only further reminds me of how if you don't keep up with these complicated family trees, shipping is a dangerous hobby in the warriors community

#does anyone remember when mothpool was deemed an incestous ship bc of like sandstorm's parents #but bc if that is true that meant that bramblesquirrel was incest as well so the erins retconned it #so they could still have their hashtag power couple #but now fernsong/ivypool is a thing and its like. wasn't there a prophecy about her SISTER being related to firestar? #and thats firestar's great grandson? hmmmmmm..... #for a series aimed at children there seems to be a bit of unaddressed incest going on here.... #then I have to be reminded of people who genuinely ship harestar/crowfeather and don't even get me started on that #what I'm saying here is that I'm a little hater #that and like I think middle schoolers can handle seeing incestous relationships but #that it should very clearly paint that as being wrong. and warriors tends to forget who's related to who. especially in thunderclan #like 3/4s of that clan is related to firestar lmao #incest mention #my posts #though harestar/crowfeather doesn't really apply to the incest thing I just hate that ship for a *different* reason

[lightningwaters]

#dawnflower #riverclan #starclan #she's another one that makes me really angry it's not explained why she becomes an elder at like 5 years old when her mom (mosspelt). #is still alive and became an elder long after dawnflower had died #literally her birth #life and death all happened within firestar's life yet she became an elder??? #it's just kinda infuriating if they legit forgot how old she was just to shove her in with the elders. #while her mom's still kicking #like if it was bc she was severely injured or had become disabled in some way that made working too difficult sure. her being an elder's ok #but that's not explained so 🤷‍♀️ #I absolutely hate how far down the eye on the left is and I'm screaming bc it looks horrible #her eyes are supposed to be droopy but not too far down the face #oh well at least she's a super background character

[yuridovewing]

Remember when people would make fun of Russetfur’s death and get angry at ShadowClan for being horrified and upset at Lionblaze for killing her, saying “lol she was old anyways, its not that big of a deal, they’re so annoying for hating Lionblaze, she shouldn’t have even been fighting.” Even though ThunderClan provoked that battle on ShadowClan’s own land and she’s the deputy so naturally everyone’s gonna be outraged and upset at him and ThunderClan

That was weird.

#also weird when people still acknowledge that wasnt shadowclans fault but instead deflect it onto ivypaw? #who is literally being manipulated in that scene #‘’but it was an accident and she was trying to kill firestar!!’’ that doesnt make it ok or make shadowclan stupid #in a similar boat people hating dawnpelt and considering her a shrill harpy bitch for blaming jayfeather and calling for his exile #over flametails death bc she thought he killed him. like a bunch of videos making fun of her and saying she was an annoying bitch #when like. the girls brother DIED she’s literally grieving him and lbr jayfeather DID look suspicious even if it wasnt his fault #it was still flametails own fault imo but grief blinds you and makes you see things differently #and it also makes you angry! not everyone grieves by crying a bit #also most ppl ignore that flametail himself blamed jayfeather and he tried to kill him over it #but dawnpelt is worse bc uhhhhhhhhhhh. uh. well shes a bitch and uh-

[canon-notcanon-warriorcats]

you know that vision leafpool got of brambles surrounding the camp and she took it as meaning that brambleclaw should be deputy because he'd protect the clan

first of all, shout out to leafpool for being very mature and assuming the most positive outcome about that vision even though she fucking hated brambleclaw (rightfully)

but also what if she was wrong, what if she interpreted the sign wrong, what if the vision meant brambleclaw, like brambles, would ensnare, strangle, and cause HARM to thunderclan, not protect it

bramblestar's leadership has literally caused more harm than good to ANYONE in thunderclan (as well as outside of thunderclan, literally all of the clans (except skyclan i guess?), as well as the sisters have SUFFERED because of bramblestar being thunderclan's leader

and not to mention the individual cats who've suffered the most from him being leader, like him using his power to literally ABUSE squirrelflight, as well as his decisions actively causing leafpool's death, as well as the death of moonlight, killing a harmless group's leader and leaving three newborn kits as orphans, and ALMOST killing squirrelflight

not to mention brambleclaw literally had to STOP AND THINK about whether or not he should save firestar from the foxtrap like what the fuck man, and maybe if he hadn't literally hesitated firestar wouldn't have lost that life and then at the great battle firestar would have survived

what if starclan WAS sending a warning, and specifically sent it to leafpool because she was already suspicious of brambleclaw, but because she was still so young and less experienced, because she was so kindhearted and wanted to see the good in everyone, she WANTED her sister's mate to be a good person, a good leader, and was such a positive person, she thought, she wanted, she HOPED that it was a sign from starclan that brambles would protect her clan, her sister, her family

but it wasn't

#warrior cats #leafpool #bramblestar #i love leafpool #she was nothing but a sweet and kind and positive girl #who wanted to see the best in everyone #i mean she fell in love with crowfeather i feel like that's proof enough lmao

[everybody-loves-purdy]

Tawnypelt should have had the arc Brambleclaw had in TNP. She had all the correct set up while he didn’t.

Bramblepaw outright rejected his father, Tawnypaw did not, she even joined his clan, it stands to reason that she would be more easily swayed by his spirit.

Tawnypelt had several cats actively doubting her loyalty in TNP, even saying things to her face, Brambleclaw did not.

It just feels the TNP Brambleclaw arc would have been a more natural progression of Tawnypelt’s character arc than his.

Also if Tawnypelt was faced with killing Blackstar then maybe the fact that Blackstar is a recent war criminal could play into her hesitancy to save him as well as ambition.

While Brambleclaw’s hesitancy is just purely driven by ambition, and it feels especially cold given the closeness he and Firestar had come to have at this point. Meanwhile Tawnypelt and Blackstar’s relationship was rocky in TNP.

#Tawnypelt #brambleclaw