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jupitersdoll · 7 months
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Astro Observations #2
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If you’re having issues with choosing a career path, look to your Sun! The sign, house, and planet that your Sun rules over can tell you where you shine best. Your sun is also something that you gradually grow into throughout your life. Ex: Sun in 4H would be best taking over a family business or learning a trade from a close family member. 4H Sun Julia Roberts’ parents ran a small theatre teaching local children how to act and she grew up to be an actress herself.
The moon is the fastest moving body in your natal chart and therefore rules over things that you may have fleeting feelings about. Scorpio and Capricorn moon placements can be difficult to deal with because these signs need time and extreme situations to let go and get over something. This resistance to emotional change can cause them to either be avoidant or they hyperfocus on things that cause them to feel specific emotions.
Aries placements, especially Sun and Mars, may find themselves being bored with their day to day life because they know exactly what they have to do to have a successful day. This knowledge pushes them to be more rebellious so they have something to fix. They go towards the unknown and situations of chaos to challenge themselves make things more orderly. This is why they are often to the first to do something specific successfully.
Gemini Moon and Venus natives don’t really fall in love very often, not out of boredom but because of high standards of their partners. When they do fall in love, it’s because the person caters to all their senses so they’re constantly stimulated. When they do find their person, they may be on and off with them because there are times when that person doesn’t constantly fulfill them so they take breaks and come back when that person prepared to do so.
Virgo placements are known for being perfectionists but often fall in love with people who others may not find desirable or worthy. This is because they have a 7H in Pisces. The Neptune like influence makes them have rose colored glasses in their love life. They also love the idea of having something/someone that triggers the perfectionist tendencies within them. People often trust the Virgo placement’s judgement because the results speak for themselves - until they see their partner and they question, “what are they doing with them?”
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sensualnoiree · 3 months
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astro notes: jupiter through the houses pt.2
Symbolizing wisdom, luck, and spiritual growth, Jupiter guides us through journeys of abundance and higher learning. As it rules Sagittarius and Pisces, and co-rules Pisces with Neptune, its reach extends to philosophical pursuits, foreign travel, and spiritual exploration. From its exaltation in Cancer to its debilitation in Capricorn, Jupiter's placement illuminates our beliefs, aspirations, and sense of justice. Throughout this exploration of Jupiter's journey through the houses, we unravel its transformative power and guiding light, embracing its blessings of prosperity, abundance, and divine guidance.
Jupiter in the 4th House:
With Jupiter gracing your fourth house of home and family, you are blessed with a deep sense of emotional fulfillment and inner stability. Your home is a source of comfort and sanctuary, providing you with a strong foundation from which to navigate the challenges of life.
Your emotional resilience and stability make you a pillar of strength for your loved ones, and you may find that you are able to offer wise counsel and support during times of difficulty. Your relationship with your mother is particularly close and nurturing, and you may find that she plays a significant role in shaping your values and beliefs.
Family gatherings and traditions hold special significance for you, and you may take great pleasure in creating a warm and welcoming environment for those you hold dear. You have a deep appreciation for the importance of roots and heritage, and you may find that you are drawn to explore your ancestry or preserve family traditions for future generations.
However, it's important to guard against the tendency to become too attached to the past or overly protective of your emotional boundaries. With Jupiter's influence here, there may be a temptation to cling to familiar patterns or resist change, even when it is necessary for growth and evolution. Remember to embrace the opportunities for expansion and growth that come from stepping outside of your comfort zone.
Overall, Jupiter in the fourth house blesses you with emotional security, familial bonds, and a deep connection to your roots. Embrace the blessings of home and family, and use them as a source of strength and inspiration as you navigate the journey of life.
Jupiter in the 5th House:
With Jupiter gracing your fifth house of creativity and self-expression, you possess a boundless imagination and a zest for life that is truly infectious. Your creative talents are vast and varied, and you may find that you excel in artistic pursuits such as music, theater, or writing.
Your love life is characterized by passion and romance, and you may find that you attract partners who share your love of adventure and excitement. Your children, if you have them, are a source of joy and inspiration, and you may take great pleasure in nurturing their talents and encouraging their dreams.
Creativity and self-expression are central to your sense of identity, and you may find that you are drawn to activities that allow you to express yourself authentically and freely. Whether through artistic endeavors or playful pursuits, you have a natural gift for infusing joy and positivity into everything you do.
However, it's important to guard against the tendency to overindulge in pleasure or become overly attached to external validation. With Jupiter's influence here, there may be a temptation to seek validation and approval from others, rather than finding fulfillment from within. Remember to cultivate a sense of self-worth that is independent of external recognition, and focus on expressing yourself authentically from the heart.
Overall, Jupiter in the fifth house blesses you with creativity, romance, and joyous self-expression. Embrace the blessings of love and creativity, and use them to infuse every aspect of your life with passion, vitality, and purpose.
Jupiter in the 6th House:
With Jupiter gracing your sixth house of health and service, you are blessed with a deep sense of compassion and a desire to make a positive difference in the world. Your work ethic is strong, and you may find fulfillment in roles that allow you to serve others or contribute to the greater good.
Your health tends to be robust, and you may possess a natural talent for healing and holistic living. Whether through physical fitness, dietary choices, or spiritual practices, you have a deep appreciation for the importance of maintaining balance and well-being in all areas of your life.
Your generosity knows no bounds, and you may find that you are constantly seeking opportunities to lend a helping hand or support those in need. Your compassionate nature and strong sense of social responsibility make you a valuable asset to your community, and you may find fulfillment in roles that allow you to advocate for justice and equality.
However, it's important to guard against the tendency to become overly self-sacrificing or perfectionistic in your approach to work and service. With Jupiter's influence here, there may be a temptation to take on too much responsibility or become overly critical of yourself and others. Remember to prioritize self-care and set healthy boundaries, ensuring that you are able to give freely without depleting your own resources.
Overall, Jupiter in the sixth house blesses you with compassion, service, and a deep desire to make a positive impact in the world. Embrace the blessings of health and well-being, and use them to create a brighter, more compassionate world for yourself and those around you.
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imasyd · 8 months
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Petals to the Metal graphic novel panel redraw because blue Taako isn't real and can't hurt me (but the outfits are cute)
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luckshmi · 11 months
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Ascendents & the 4th House
According to Vedic astrology, it is said that the ascendent is the blueprint to your life. It is the most important point as it sets the map for your journey in this life. Therefore making the lord of the ascendent and where it is placed incredibly important. 
The lord of the ascendent is referred to as the Lagnesh, the house that Lagnesh is placed in is where the focus of person’s life goes. 
The fourth house (4H) signifies your home, mother, ancestors, property, homeland, possessions, comforts, domestic happiness, mental peace and emotional satisfaction.
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Aries Ascendent - Cancer 4H (Mars - Moon)
Whilst Aries may appear to be quick, agile and always in some sort of a rush, there is a deep inherent need for comfort in the home. Cancer 4H would indulge in soft, cozy comfortable decor and furniture in order to beatify and create a sanctuary that helps them relax in a fast paced world. 
Taurus Ascendent - Leo 4H (Venus - Sun) 
Taureans are generally laid back until provoked, enjoying the comforts that life have to offer. Be it a delicious pastry from their favourite bakery down the street or learning how to make exotic coffee, a taurean needs a home that is fit for a king. There is a love for golden trimmings, with unique pieces that are difficult to come by. The space has to exude elegance and timeless beauty as the home is where taureans reign supreme. 
Gemini Ascendent - Virgo 4H (Mercury - Mercury)
With their minds and mouths moving a 1 mile a minute, Geminis are always a whirlwind of innovative ideas and suggestions. Unable to sit in one place for long, a gemini has to release their creative energy in order to exert themselves in the world. They are people free to be who they are on their own terms. However, with a virgo 4H, home is the place where they narrow their eyes and focus on bringing their thoughts to life. There is an incredibly practical approach to design and decor as it is functionality more so than design. Earthy minimalism is the way to go. Creating structure out of chaos. 
Cancer Ascendent - Libra 4H (Moon - Venus) 
Cancerians are often too receptive to the undercurrents of the world, feeling too hard and knowing too deeply. These people love to create a space that is aesthetically pleasing to the eyes in order to escape the darkness of the world. They enjoy big airy spaces, where they can breathe easier and deeper. In soft pastels and whites that soften the eye and calm them down. Its all about creating a vacation at the home. Looks, luxury and comfort are the number one priority. 
Leo Ascendent - Scorpio 4H (Sun - Mars) 
Always the main character in the movie that is life, the King just wants a place to run and hide and swop his crown for a pair of sweats. These people crave solitude on their own terms. They tend to gravitate towards darker walls, with functional decor that allows them to feel as if they are secluded from the world. Deep tones of red seem to accent their aesthetic. This is bruce wayne, dark night vibes .. 
Virgo Ascendent - Sagittarius 4H (Mercury - Jupiter) 
No matter the occasion, a virgo always has their game face on. One step ahead is a mantra that seems to echo in this mercurial mind. The precision of focus that they have tend to limit their imagination from wandering to foreign lands and people so that's why they bring it into their home. These people have trinkets from all their travels across the world, bringing with them a part of a different place and time that belongs to their inner world where they can relax and relive their extravagant adventures. Time travellers within walls. 
Libra Ascendent - Capricorn 4H (Venus - Saturn) 
The gorgeous diplomats, walking through life making one connection after the next. These people express themselves in a very lively and creative way - making a brand for themselves. Usually exploring and experimenting with colours, textures and patterns in fashion, they seek a more traditional classic approach to decor. Keeping it functional but ultimately timeless. They are always in pursuit of art, furniture and decor that exude luxury and remind them of an earlier time of elegance. Structure, stability and beauty form core pillars in their home and and its atmosphere. 
Scorpio Ascendent - Aquarius 4H (Mars - Saturn) 
The warriors with intense depth and unyielding resilience need a place to be their true selves. They need to unwind and relax their faces. Their living space, creativity knows no bounds. It is a sanctuary where imagination thrives, unconventional ideas are celebrated, and the spirit of innovation permeates every aspect. Here, they can truly embrace their authentic self and inspire others to think outside the box. The interior often looks incredibly futuristic yet functional. Think alien space ship. Cool applications and technology helps make their home about 10 steps ahead.  
Sagittarius Ascendent - Pisces 4H (Jupiter - Jupiter)
That adventurous wanderlust spirit is boundless just like their wisdom. This seeps into their very Jupiterian home. Their living space can be described as a tranquil and ethereal oasis, where imagination takes flight and emotions find solace. As you enter, a serene and calming atmosphere envelops you, creating a sanctuary of tranquility.Soft, pastel hues dominate the walls, reminiscent of a watercolor painting that evokes a sense of serenity and fluidity. The space is adorned with flowing curtains, drapes, and delicate fabrics that dance with every gentle breeze, giving an ethereal touch to the surroundings.Candles flicker and create a soft, warm glow, illuminating the space with a hint of mysticism. The room is filled with unique, eclectic treasures collected from far-off places, telling stories of distant lands and cultures. 
Capricorn Ascendent - Aries 4H (Saturn - Mars)
That ambitious drive,steadfast mind fiery energy and bold enthusiasm ignite the atmosphere. The walls are adorned with vivid and daring colors like bold reds, oranges, and yellows create a stimulating backdrop that inspires action and ignites passion. The furniture is sleek, modern, and strategically arranged to create a sense of flow and movement. Motivational quotes and inspirational artwork adorn the walls, serving as constant reminders of the their unwavering drive and determination. 
Aquarius Ascendent - Taurus 4H (Saturn - Venus)
An elevating consciousness that inspires change. They have a luxurious and comforting haven. The walls are adorned with rich, earthy tones, evoking a sense of stability and grounding. Deep hues of brown, green, and gold create a cozy ambiance, while intricate textures and patterns add a touch of elegance. It is a sanctuary where the individual can revel in the joys of sensory experiences, appreciating the beauty of the world and finding solace in the abundance of the earth. 
Pisces Ascendent - Gemini 4H (Jupiter - Mercury)
Soulful intuition that have the ability to make dreams unfurl. A place where creativity and intellect intertwine to create a captivating atmosphere. The walls are adorned with eclectic artwork, vibrant colors, and thought-provoking quotes, reflecting their love for intellectual stimulation and visual expression. The space is a gallery of inspiration, capturing their ever-changing interests and multifaceted personality. Versatile and adaptable furniture arrangements create cozy nooks for reading, conversation, and creative pursuits.
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itsalibraswrld · 5 months
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𝓒𝓪𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓻 𝓡𝓲𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓰 🌅
Cancer rising people are known for being deep thinkers who often analyze the pros & cons of every situation before they take an initiative in life. They also possess a strong memory. This sign is characterized by deep feelings, sensitivity & a genuine concern for others. These people kind of look innocent or like Angels in my opinion. They have that divine feminine look.
* Warning! Definition of “ don’t let their beauty fool you!”
Physical features:
BEAUTIFUL!
Baby faces.
Fragile bodies.
Round faces.
Big ol bitties.
Watery eyes.
Moon like features.
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aquaevy · 4 months
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mossfrg · 11 months
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on a similar vein as my Jersey Gotham fic, I raise you this point: I have not seen a single mentioned of 4-h in any regard to Clark. I mean c’mon, super country boy Clark motherfucking Kent??? Not involved in 4H??? Absurd. My mans was involved in AT LEAST rifle, horse, and cow clubs. Maybe a lil goat club as a treat. (Fuck sheep I have a personal vendetta with them so only sheep slander here). He still has the pledge memorized. He defaults to showing posture when nervous. You bet your ass this man can get any stain— shit blood mud— out of whites because “No I don’t need a dry cleaner Bruce do you know how hard it is to keep an all-white outfit all-white while in a barn I did that when I was seven fuck you”
Clark drops random stories from his time showing and then moved on like he hasn’t just dropped the craziest farmer bullshit city-boy Bruce has ever heard.
“Y’know i once got drunk and stole a tractor and plowed a dick into the field.”
“I’m sorry what?”
“nah nothing.”
Mans just casually drops that he helped establish breed standards multiple times and refined show standards for said breeds. He started a petition to change the classes for showing to include companion animals. PETA has stalked him and has him on their black list. He was excused of all tardies in school because during calving season, he regularly gloved up and pulled calves (bc why bother using an actual calf pulled when you have an alien with super strength).
Yes Clark is an alien, but he is a feral farm boy alien.
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slashtro · 7 months
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4h synastry observations 🏡👪🍼
ascendent in 4h - 4h person can feel at home with ascendant person. Ascendent person feels easy to be themselves around the other , vice versa. This synastry aspect highlight sameness and family dynamics . You make envision a family with them. This aspect could possible become routine however and depending on the ascendents persons pov toward family, they might find 4h person overbearing , vice versa
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myun-saidthoughts · 1 year
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IC/MC Home life vs Public life
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The IC/MC in your natal chart is a pivotal part of your natal chart. 
The IC represents the home, the mother, family roots, how your childhood manifested, the type of parenting you experienced, it’s the most private and unseen part of you.
The MC represents what you show to the public, it’s your persona, what you feel the most comfortable with embodying towards others, hobbies/interests that bring you the feeling of control or comfortability even. It’s a ‘face’ that you proudly show others and it’s the ideal ‘face’ you want others to perceive you as. 
I want to reiterate how these two houses manifest. The 4H and 10H are always opposing each other, whatever your 4H is, the 10H is the polar opposite. 
(In some cases, the IC can be placed in the 3H or 5H etc, and if that’s the case the MC would naturally still be the opposite of that placement, even if it’s not placed in the 4H)
The experiences you have dealt with from your childhood create natural talents that you will possess in the future. 
For Example:
Aries IC: In this natal placement, normally this indicates an aggressive childhood. A lot of fighting, yelling, disagreements, if you weren’t in the midst of the fights, perhaps you saw it manifest between your parents. You may of been very independent, your parents may of left you to fend for yourself, or if you cried or showed some emotion, your parents might of disregarded it and said that you were a “tough” child. In more extreme instances there was just a lot of disruption in the midst of your life. A lot of unnecessary fights or you were exposed to some anger issues from either your parents/siblings. You may had to parent yourself or take on more responsibility than a child should, in some aspect dependability was something you aren't familiar with. Parents could have been selfish, they could prioritize their own needs/desires/choices, leaving you to fixate and give up your own needs in the end.
(The above interpretation is more likely an extreme case, not every Aries IC would have this experience, in the most general term someone with an Aries IC had to focus on other people's needs, their desires were oftentimes left unnoticed or uncared for in some aspect or form, maybe their parents never prioritized their hobbies or interests, maybe they gave more attention to other siblings or to their work/interests etc)
Libra MC: In this natal placement, you now may come across to others as very friendly, kind, considerate, conscious of how you appear to others. You prioritize how you come across to others. You may dislike confrontation or unnecessary arguments, you find it not comforting to state your annoyances to others if it’s not a severe issue. You make sure to smile at others and people would find you charming and warm. You think of other peoples emotions when making decisions, people might call you a good mediator or natural at finding the common ground between parties. You understand people, and very naturally so. You put others peoples needs or issues first, you find the easy medium in almost any argument, you are adaptable and presentable towards other people, especially if you have a 11H/7H placements, such as the Moon/Sun/Venus/Mars etc, then this would create an even deeper care about others.
The reason behind your natural gifts is because you had to learn and take on Libra qualities and traits in order to feel some sort of control in your life. You couldn't control the chaos of your family, but you can control how you'd react and deal with others.
You dislike chaos/confrontation/fights and since these qualities were everywhere when you were younger, it was only natural to adapt to qualities that would balance all of that out. As humans we do strive for balance in relationships, and the relationship you have within your home would be a pivotal stepping stone with how you choose to interact with others. 
You learned it was easier to smile and say yes to others even if deep down, you weren’t “okay” or happy with the situation. The only way you survived in your home life was to disregard your own feelings/thoughts/emotions. In some cases but not all, you are able to understand why people react they way they do. 
In the entirety of it all, the traits you soon possessed are now catalysts for you and your career choice. Disregarding the specific example I gave, the message is the same. 
Because of the experiences you dealt with in your home, you can now look at your MC qualities and understand why you might of adapted certain traits as you grew up. 
One reminder for everyone is to try and not to forget the importance of balance. Even though you are more comfortable acting or being a certain way (MC) completely embodying that side when it comes to relationships isn’t fair for you. It’s okay to want to keep peace etc but (especially with Aries IC/Libra MC) but don’t forget everyone you meet won’t naturally reflect the home life you had to experience, so it’s okay to put the needs/wants/desires of yourself first, and it’s okay and (will be uncomfortable at first) to change certain habits or mindsets that were created when you were younger.
Your home life is such an important aspect for you and your self growth. 
Once you are able to understand your IC and why you might find certain careers/hobbies/actions intriguing, will you be able to really grasp and understand your IC/MC to it’s fullest potential. 
(The severity with your IC also depends on what other planets may occupy this house, more malefic planets like Pluto, Saturn, Mars, Chiron, Lilith even would indicate a more extreme harsh childhood. Each planet that I listed has different meanings, but in general these malefic planets would bring a harsher layout for the individual. (Not considering other indicators of a harsh childhood like the Moon sign or its aspects)
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shiftythrifting · 2 years
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A garf who supports his local 4H!
A very WET looking candle 😬
SATANIC GOOSE SUMMONING CIRCLE
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jupitersdoll · 7 months
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Possible Career Paths for the Sun Signs🌞
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As I explained in my second Astro Observations post, the sign and house your sun is in can tell you where you naturally shine best. Working in a career where you stand out naturally can benefit you in many ways because when work does not feel like work, you have more room to thrive.
Sun in Aries/1H - Management, Military, Self-Employed Entrepreneur, Acting*, Modeling.
Sun in Taurus/2H - Banking, Finance, Singing*, Chef, Real Estate.
Sun in Gemini/3H - Writer, Radio/Podcast, Middle Education Teacher (ages 7-14), Athlete*, Entertainment Critic
Sun in Cancer/4H* - Family trade (Nepotism), Early Education Teacher (ages newborn to 7), Interior Decoration, Family Therapist, Historian
Sun in Leo/5H - Entertainer, Relationship Therapist/Dating Coach, Film Director/Producer, Youth Advocate, Late Education Teacher (ages 14-18)
Sun in Virgo/6H - Healthcare, Social Work, Human Resources, Comedian, Politician
Sun in Libra/7H - Lawyer, Mediator, At-Home work, Visual Artist*, Business Owner
Sun in Scorpio/8H* - Insurance Agent, Funeral Services, Sex Therapist, Addiction Counselor, Acting*
Sun in Sagittarius/9H - Theology, Post-Grade School Education (ages 18 and over), Travel Agent, Life Coach, Blogger
Sun in Capricorn/10H* - Business Leadership (ex: C-Suite), Family Trade (self-starting), Board Member, Politics, Entertainment Executive
Sun in Aquarius/11H* - Socialite/Influencer, Entertainer, Entrepreneur (with others), Humanitarian, Project Manager
Sun in Pisces/12H* - Psychologist, Executor, Jail/Prison Employee, Artist*, Occult Worker
Notes: 
Actors, Singers, and Artists are usually found in all houses, but the work they go towards depends on the house they’re in. For example, Actors in Leo/5H tend to go for lighthearted roles like Will Smith, while Actors in Scorpio/8H tend to have darker-themed roles like Nicole Kidman.
Sun in Aquarius/11H can usually succeed in whatever career they venture into if they have passion for it because the 11H rules over hopes and dreams. It’s why most celebrities have 11H Sun.
Sun in Cancer/4H, Scorpio/8H, and Pisces/12H tend to have more mysterious or behind-the-scenes careers because the Sun prefers the attention to be on their work rather than on the person themselves.
Sun in Gemini/3H is good with athletics because the 3H is a social house along with 7H and 11H. Also, most professional athletes or athletic employees learn multiple languages to tend to their teams, which are made up of people from different cultures.
Sun in Capricorn/10H careers usually take time which is why the careers I listed are mostly leadership positions. These natives are ambitious so not being in charge is not a good direction for their sun energy.
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professorpski · 9 months
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1963 Elkhart County Fair Champion, Or Yes, That is a Matching Hat
This suit which came with a matching coat is on display at the local 4-H building at the Elkhart County Fair as part of the clothing construction exhibit. Most of show were items made by young people for this year's fair, but they had some winners from the past on display as well. And this won was the most impressive.
This 1963 suit is a beautiful blue and gray wool with matching, bias- cut shawl that buttons on to either the suit or the coat. In the early 1960s, a suit was still the garment that even young women wore for travel to the city, whether to work or to shop. In fact, a suit was one of the garments sold in juniors as well as misses sizes. And coordinated hats and gloves were part of the look for public occasions.
But a new simplicity had come to suits which explains why it differs from women's suits of the 1950s. The jacket is still fitted to the body, but lacks a collar and pockets. Of course, it was still a challenge to make, especially the outfit required a coat and a matching hat.
Of course, with the decade, a fashion revolution took place and young people no longer wanted to look grown up; grownups did even want to look grown up. Women's suits became even more simplified when they did not simply disappear. Which meant the rich design vocabulary of women's suits from the early 1960s and prior decades vanished from our knowledge. Which is why I bring you this one and hope you will be pondering the possibility of bias-cut scarves in the future.
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ariesalpinesavi · 4 months
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As someone who has spent equal time in dogs and livestock (specifically goats, llamas, horses, ponies, sheep in that descending order) my pet peeve is people calling them “face collars” instead of a halter - pred or prey, it’s still a halter. Just call it by its actual tack name
Pic unrelated, halters are amazing and great for dogs too. It does give more lead and direction typically and is a major alternative for any dog who has or is prone to tracheal collapse
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m0cha-bunny · 5 months
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graves was in ffa in highschool, change my mind. ain’t no way this southern bastard pretty boy wasn’t in it. i know for a fact his highschool gf was (rightfully) pissed off during conventions because she knew he was off screwing other girls. but hey, his southern charm always brought her back in
thank you for coming to my ted talk
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illjustpretend · 1 year
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salt for your wound ❤️‍🔥
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foldingfittedsheets · 8 months
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I didn’t know that 4H did dogs! How does it work?
I’ve gotten this question in real life too and it always surprises me but 4H is like. Every possible thing you can imagine. Dogs, farm stock, fiber crafts, gardening, it’s just a club that focuses on a specific thing really.
For mine I did it with my Australian cattle dog, Sly. When my mom and I got him he was about 6 months old and an absolute hellion. He chewed every possible thing he could, was way smarter than us, and ultimately made our lives very difficult. My mom talked about giving him up, but I loved him despite his difficulty and suggested 4H because a friend of mine did it with her dog.
My mom agreed. We did weekly training sessions (he improved immediately. Shocking no one, a bored cattle dog is a recipe for disaster). He learned all sorts of tricks and how to do obedience and show trials. I memorized dog breeds that I got tested on, and wrote reports on the history of his breed. There was even retreats which was pretty fun.
We went to the county and state fair and he got ribbons in obedience and breed (which was a bit of a joke as he was the only cattle dog, but still, blue ribbon). I only did it for a year before I aged out and got too old to participate but it was a great experience in dog training.
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