#for jaime in specific

[ilynpilled]

Kinda unfair/or unpredictable question but do you think at some point in the next books Jaime and Daenerys will interact to a higher degree? Or better question -- do you think that's a good idea? Jaime has so much personal trauma with the Targaryen family, it feels like it may be realistic to have a meaningful conversation with Dany. (If he's surviving his current predicament which I think he will :P) Though maybe it'd just be beneficial for Jaime, and Dany is not interested in dwelling on it

and i find it interesting that this jape is in the chapter where all this significant rhaegar talk happens:

all this could mean nothing, and these things are hard to predict, and i think the show especially offers very little in this regard considering how much the stories of these two in specific were shifted in certain directions, so this is all i am gonna say anon: i do think the set up for an interaction can be interpreted from the text. dany is “rhaegar returning” in some form, so maybe there is more to that “talk that never was” than just tragic irony. when and how and exactly what it would mean for them at that point? idk. i just think jaime (and only jaime, as he would likely be the last living “monster from viserys’ stories about RR” by that point: not only was jaime kept closer bc he was a hostage, but barristan doesn’t really dwell on rhaella’s abuse, and it is possible that he will not live to be the one to communicate the extent of the ‘real aerys’ to dany, he was dancing around it in the text so far thats fs + brienne knows about the wildfire plot but that would be significantly less personal, same with the pieces just being put together after KL goes up in flames imo, which they likely will be, but i just think it would be missing that ‘personal layer’) holds information that dany does want to learn, and him telling her could bring a lot of things full circle for them as characters (+dany and rhaella have a number of parallels, and i do think that piece of information for example, as painful as it is, would hold significance to her and her understanding of her family other than just a form of closure, especially relating to a major theme concerning the downfall of house targaryen and the abuse and oppression the women faced from their male counterparts following jaehaerys’s rule, the dance, complete patriarchal hegemony etc. and that whole downfall did culminate in aerys and everything he represents, and her experience with viserys is also an extension of all that). idk if jaime is meant to confess the wildfire/kingslayer thing in specific to anyone other than brienne (from a more thematic perspective), but who knows, especially if he does live past a KL going down in flames scenario, which is possible because there is a set up for him wielding widow’s wail which is there rn. the whole rhaegar motif in jaime chapters was always something that i found interesting (i have a very specific interpretation of a parallel/anti-parallel with the children that i think is actually unrelated to dany/jon etc, but i am too lazy to get into that right now.) but yeah he is the pov character with the second most mentions of rhaegar by name in the text as he is a key manifestation of guilt, the first one being dany obviously. if not, then george has bran + magic to get that info to dany ig. we will see in like 20 years lol

#ask #rhaegar is a manifestation of guilt tho as a figure so he is very much abstract in that sense and could be a lot of things #a representation of contradicting vows #for jaime in specific #then ig theres the kingmaker thing which can mean a lot of things #i always thought it would just be - him killing cersei would lead to aegon being crowned #or smn #but who knows #jaimes a kingmaker in a lot of ways tho already so it might not even be about the future #like we know jaime rues robert so he does have that underlying subconscious goal of ‘good king that never was’ #but with tommen thats obv a failed project shdhnd #as we can gather from feast that he cannot make the vows compromise actually #but i cant ignore the glaring aegon/second dance of the dragons connection #jaime lannister

[swordmaid]

TWOW Jaime I [real]

based on this scene from the mummy.

#jaime x brienne #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #lady stoneheart #thoros of myr #asoiaf #mine. #this is so dumb LMFAO ive been giggling at this for the whole week #but this is my bday gift to me <3 something silly and fun hihi #and sorry if thoros was supposed to have a specific look i just made him look like some guy 😩 i dont have a design for him ...... #man not me working hard on a shitpost LMFAO the things i do for jb fr.. #long post

[daigah]

Captain Atom picking up Jaime ☺☺☺

Justice League: Generation Lost #22

#i have these saved in my panels to make me smile collection i love them.. #god i love them all so much #i really like natw #never talk about him.. #and gavrill there is too hi man #i LIKE him well enough hes fun but god i wish it was Dimitri here #his death felt so... idk i hate it #his wife and kids ☹ #hang on Dimitri post incoming im gonna look for this one specific panel #i imagine an audible “plop” sound effect when cap puts him down #jli #jaime reyes #beatriz da costa #tora olafsdotter #booster gold #Gavril Ivanovich #dc comics #nate adam

[knightsickness]

people talk about cersei immediately propositioning ned when he confronts her but we need to talk about jaime consistently implying that anyone who captures him thinks he’s hot and wants to fuck him. lannister twin delusion moments. the mind that asks her worst enemy if he wants to cheat on his wife with her while he’s accusing her of murder is the mind that tells robb it’s gay to drag a male prisoner around with you during a war

#got #game of thrones #a song of ice and fire #cersei lannister #jaime lannister #ik the robb one is show specific however it’s so funny to me i’ll recognise it

[shripscapi]

I’d been procrastinating drawing Jaime in kingsguard armor bc I was loathing figuring out how I was going to make full plate match the aesthetic I had been going for with other westerosi stuff, but I went back and listened to some of the chapters for inspiration and sansa describes the kg armor as scaled! I decided to lean fully into that instead of plate bc I thought it was more fun :)

#jaime lannister #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #my art #don’t look too closely at the type I was working w procreates very limited tool. I’m better than this. I promise #I also rlly wanted tk do a bunch of fancy details but then it was specifically noted that their uniforms were simple! sigh

[atopvisenyashill]

IN THIS LIGHT SHE COULD ALMOST BE A BEAUTY IN THIS LIGHT SHE COULD ALMOST BE A KNIGHT.

“in this light” that they’re both in, to be clear - twin flames fighting in the darkness. fighting against the darkness. brienne looking at the ghosts that haunt jaime, from the very real physical threats of the war he helped start to the metaphorical wounds of knighthood, chivalry, and oath-keeping , from the betrayal of realizing your father is not the man you wanted him to be, from his own stupidity, and saying “this is nothing. i can fight them all.” to help him remember the ideals of his youth, to BE the ideal of his youth; an oathbreaker to save the lives of innocent children but it won’t break her soul the way it broke his!! she’s got a beauty that goes deeper than his, and the soul of a knight much more unshakable as well. he dreams of her fighting with him, beside him, saving him, facing down the wrathful dead, and watching as he fails, but knowing she is there and she will do what he cannot!

HE DREAMT IT. HE DREAMT OF HER.

#HES GOING TO DIE FIGHTING THE OTHERS IS WHAT IM SAYING. HE CAN BE THE VALONQAR AND ALSO PASS THE TORCH TO BRIENNE. IF DAEMON CAN DIE #BOTH LIGHT AND DARK AFTER COMMITTING LIKE 12 WAR CRIMES AND AT LEAST 104 FELONIES. MURDER SUICIDING HIS OWN NEPHEW. #JAIME CAN DIE WITH BRIENNE FIGHTING THE OTHERS AFTER DOING SOMETHING HEINOUS TO CERSEI. THIS IS GEORGE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT #valyrianscrolls #braime #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #bittersweet beauty and the beast #jaime the dragon slayer #i’m waiting until i get brienne’s pov to give her a specific tag #rani liveblogs asoiaf #anyways guess what chapter i listened to

[la-pheacienne]

Continuing my post about Jaime and Rhaegar’s respective roles in the sack of KL, let’s talk about Jaime and Rhaegar’s last conversation which I didn’t mention in that post and it deserves its own analysis. I find it extremely funny how both (some) Lannister stans and (some) Targ stans seem to think that the last convo between Rhaegar and Jaime was actually like this :

"Jaime, a sack is about to happen very soon. Elia and my kids are in a high risk of getting brutally murdered inside the very capital by the orders of your father who has ghosted us for some time but is deep down an enemy planning all of this in secret. Meanwhile, my father is planning to blow up the entire city any minute now because reasons. I’m leaving you here, alone, to take care of all this and keep all these people, my wife, two kids, father and the people of the city, safe from harm. If you fail to do any of that at any point, you’re incompetent, a traitor and a coward. Now I have to leave to do my thing with the others, don’t forget your duty and your vows, bye".

While it was actually like this :

"Jaime, there’s a war, we are in a pretty tight position and I gotta go to battle taking some men with me. Unfortunately my father wants to keep you close because he believes Tywin will not turn against him this way, and he’s kind of insane so there is nothing we can do about it without risking an even bigger outburst. Give me some time to get out of this mess, and then I’ll come back and we’ll fix this. All this will be over soon, bye".

So the first reading of Jaime and Rhaegar’s last convo completely misses the mark in many ways.

Some Lannister stans are screaming crying throwing up that Rhaegar left a literal cHiLD with all tHiS rEsPoNSIbILIty he doesn’t give a FUCK about anyone how dare he what kind of tHOUGhT PrOCesS is that !!!! Some Targ stans say that Rhaegar gave specific orders to Jaime to protect his father, wife, kids and city against multiple and opposite threats and thus honor his vows, and Jaime failing to do that means he is basically a traitor and a coward. And incompetent.

None of this is correct, because this isn’t what Rhaegar asked him to do, at all. Rhaegar did not know, could not know, could not possibly conceive or imagine or suspect that a sack was about to happen at the orders of Tywin no less and that his family was in immediate danger in.the.very.capital. Nobody.knew. That is why this sack is so horrifying. Also he may have been well aware that his father was insane but not to the point that he could expect him to literally want to blow up his own city. That is a whole other level of insanity he very legitimately didn’t expect. Thirdly, Rhaegar had no power to take Jaime or his family away at this point (« I dare not » is not an epheumism. He literally dares not. We’re talking about Aerys here).

All he asked Jaime to do is wait for Rhaegar to come back and in the meantime try to keep his father at bay. That.is.literally.it. Rhaegar said : « Give me some time, I’ll come back and fix this » And Jaime did wait and he did hope that Rhaegar would come back, but Rhaegar didn’t come back not because he decided to go on vacation with his new chick but because he got killed. Nothing went according to plan, and Jaime had to take matters in his own hands.

So :

Rhaegar did not leave """""all that responsibility""""" to a """"literal child"""".  He left his father the king with the one member of the Kingsguard the king specifically wanted with him, and he told that member of the Kingsguard to literally, wait it out and be a KG. Apart from the fact that Rhaegar couldn’t take Jaime away because Aerys wanted him there, Jaime was not a random child, he was a member of the KG. Him staying with Aerys is technically what he was supposed to do as a member of the KG anyway, there is nothing abnormal or particularly stupid or outrageous or naive in this """"thought process"""", despite Jaime’s age. That order seemed both inevitable (it was Aerys’ order) and reasonable (Jaime was a KINGSguard after all), at the time.

Likewise, Rhaegar did not reasonably expect Jaime to go all Superman on both his father and Tywin’s men and save like the entire population of KL including his own family, all by himself. Again, what he actually told Jaime to do was literally wait for him to come back and try to keep his father at bay. He hoped Jaime’s presence would satiate his father until he comes back. That’s all. He did not know that Aerys would want to blow up KL, he did not know what Jaime would be forced to do and he did not expect the sack and the fact that his family would be murdered in the capital. He didn’t entrust Jaime with all these things simply because he wasn’t expecting these things. All these things were definitely not part of """the job""" Rhaegar gave him. Rhaegar’s GHOST saying to Jaime in his dreams "I left my wife and children in your hands" is manifesting Jaime’s guilt for not being able to save the family. It is a ghost in Jaime’s dream. This doesn’t mean that Rhaegar literally expected Jaime to prevent his father from blowing up the city and simultaneously protect his family from an entirely different threat that wasn’t even remotely a possibility then. Jaime failing to do all of the above by himself doesn’t make him a traitor, an incompetent loser or a coward.

The distortion of their actual convo led the entire fandom to engage in a strawman argument ad nauseam. Lannister stans are attacking Rhaegar for leaving "all this responsibility" to Jaime and Targ stans are attacking Jaime for failing to honor this responsibility, while "all this responsibility" was never part of their actual conversation to begin with because none them had the slightest idea of what was about to happen in the first place.

It is such a pity because this last convo between these two men is so tragic and haunting and beautiful, Jaime (grrm) describes his last visual memory of Rhaegar in an unusually poetic manner, and the fact that deep down he is still waiting and hoping for Rhaegar to come back makes me insane. « The day had been windy when he said farewell to Rhaegar, in the yard of the Red Keep. The prince had donned his night-black armor, with the three-headed dragon picked out in rubies on his breastplate ». « So the Prince of Dragonstone mounted up and donned his tall black helm, and rode forth to his doom ». « It is not Aerys I rue, it is Robert ». « I almost mistook you for Aegon the Conqueror ». « How much can a crown be worth when a crow can feast on a king? ». And instead of focusing on that and the symbolism of it all and that fact that it’s literally foreshadowing Dany’s or Jon’s « return » and their meeting with Jaime (Rhaegar will come back in the end in some form or another, all hope is not lost) we’re reiterating bad takes about a supposed conflict between them ad infinitum. It is boring, reductive and uninspired.

Be serious, read the text and stop spreading misinformation about either side. This is not a football game. We all love a fandom fight occasionally but it is important to actually engage with the themes of the story from time to time.

#i will not elaborate on jaime's guilt here (which also manifests itself during his accounting of the convo) #i did that in the other post #i will just say that yes #jaime FEELS that he failed rhaegar and it IS legitimate and anyone in his place with an iota of human decency would also feel that #this doesn't mean that it was his fault ORthat rhaegar literally expected him to do all that had to be done to prevent the final outcome #stop bad faith interpretations #stop twisting the story to fit a specific agenda #jaime lannister #rhaegar targaryen #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #robert's rebellion #sack of king's landing #aspa rambles

[ghastlywretch]

obsessed with how jaime looms like a spectre over the characters and the reader alike in agot and to an even greater extent in acok. you've actually witnessed him firsthand a few times with characters like jon, tyrion and sansa, but most of him is just the golden-haired man haunting bran's dreams, terrifying him, tyrion's brave, strong, impulsive brother who has to be saved, the kingslayer of the smallfolk, the one whose incest and kingslaying has brought down the wrath of the gods upon them, ned's jaime, who is vile and never to be trusted, not worthy of any empathy, the kingslayer that is more idea than person for the younger characters like jon, arya and sansa, the kingslayer that theon almost crossed blades with, his chance for glory (which...okay theon...) the kingslayer whose vile deeds don't erase the fact that he is a knight for stannis, the kingslayer who murdered daenerys' father. he's mentioned in so many conversations. cerwyn mentions him to bran and he feels like he's falling again, renly talks about him and cersei with catelyn in front of brienne, brienne and catelyn mention him in their conversation when they're going to riverrun, robb and tyrion and tywin are all thinking about him. grrm does such a good job at just establishing his presence and significance (not only in the narrative but in a meta way as well, a hint for what's to come) in this world, which just elevates that scene when cat and brienne go down to the dungeons to meet him to an insane level.

#so much to be said about each of these characters' relationship jaime #specifically their relationship to jaime before ASOS #the parasocial nature of it #i sometimes forget that bran is literally terrified of jaime #like i blorbofy him so much but then i remember that this is the VILLAIN in bran's life who took everything away from him #regardless of his intentions or reasons or whatever #and then brienne's relationship with the idea of jaime lannister thee kinglsayer is so compelling as well #her being the one in the tent listening to cat and renly talk for the very first time about jaime and cers #and not only the incest but the attempt on bran's life??? #god #GODDDD #jaime lannister #asoiaf reread #asoiaf #acok #agot #valyrianscrolls #asoiaf meta

[imjustapoorwayfaringgeek]

Wrapped in Folds of Crimson Velvet

please zoom in it looks better when you zoom in

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#asoiaf #fan art #a song of ice and fire #asoiaf fanart #asoiaf art #brienne of tarth #jaime lannister #oathkeeper #finally got this done #im not satisfied with it #brienne's hand is too big etc etc #but here you go i don't wanna look at it a second longer #i love how swords are used as a penis metaphor in asoiaf #and jaime specifically wraps oathkeeper in folds of crimson velvet before giving it to brienne #bro deflowered her metaphorically or something #greetings jb nation #my art.

[sunny12th]

I know it's very possible that dany won't interact with every westerosi pov but idc. I need to read her talking to theon, I need her to talk to jaime, I need to see her from cersei's pov, I need her to meet brienne (cousins!!!), I need dany and arrianne to get to know each other, I need to see sansa from dany's pov, I just. I NEED IT.

#didnt include jon bc thats a given right. like theres no doubt theyll meet #i mean all the key 5 are gonna meet. im pretty confident about that #but i specifically need dany to interract with these other not key 5 characters okay 🥺 george pls #i need it #i also believe her meeting jaime HAS to happen for both of their narratives #asoiaf #daenerys targaryen #mine

[ilynpilled]

another thing with denying jaime agency is that a lot of his character is initially constructed around what his physical power means when it comes to choices that he makes. physical strength and combat prowess, violence, is a specific form of power that he has over others and can choose to extend to other parties. it is an integral aspect of every power dynamic, be it with his king, his sister, the rest of society etc. the knight is also an examination of power and responsibility. that is why their oaths are constructed around protecting the weak. it is what’s so interesting with the kingsguard too, especially aerys’s. they are the most skilled in combat and physically powerful people in the room. they had a form of power to act and prevent what aerys kept doing. and they are on a leash through oaths, law, order, obeying authority, and a status quo, a different kind of power that functions to give the man with a crown, in this case a tyrant, absolute power. you are sworn to obey, not to judge. you have to abide by your role. that is also what makes him eventually killing aerys and breaking these oaths so transgressive and threatening to the westerosi paradigm. his motivations and the circumstances aside, jaime in specific killing his king as a member of his elite guard undermined westerosi order and framed power as something that resided with the man with the sword and not with the man with the crown or even the lords with bannermen and armies who won the war that they started. it breaks these constructs apart with the precedent it sets. and on top of that, he gets away with it because of his status and relationship to tywin, which is also a scary precedent in the eyes of many. it is huge when it comes to westerosi order and class stratification, but it is also threatening in general because, yes, it does make him a loose cannon in the eyes of other people. and yeah he stagnates and falls into cynicism and begins to reject ethics and law in a dangerous way and ends up abusing that physical power and causes real harm to people who do not deserve it. he does embody a dangerous kind of anarchy that is the product of the flawed and dysfunctional social order that he experienced with a front row seat with the absurdly cruel tyrant that was systematically enabled. everything was reframed in his head. if there is no justice and order you can have faith in, who cares? he doesn’t fear death, and that is combined with the belief he can cut through anything now, he has the power to do so. be it a king, a lord, or virtually any power over him when it comes down to it. how much can a crown be worth…? he even argues to brienne that robert tearing the realm apart with his war is worse in a pragmatic sense. he rejects the existing laws, ethics, and moral constructs of his society that have a monopoly on violence because he is disillusioned with them, and he operates solely by his twisted reconstruction of morality (also obviously affected by his trauma) that atp primarily revolves around love for his family, especially cersei. he chooses to become the sword of his loved one, having lost faith in the purity of everything other than this delusional idealized relationship that is the only thing that is sacred that remains to him. and ofc all of this is another layer that makes george stripping him of this particular power through his maiming so functional in causing crisis.

#jaime lannister #this is also why it’s important that he is so powerful and skilled #like he has to be that fucking good with swinging that fucking sword for so many reasons #like im so serious when i say its integral when it comes to his psychology and his themes #and hes fully aware like he says its the hand that made him a knight that made him a man that killed aerys that flung bran #jaimes story examines a specific kind of power and responsibility very thoroughly #him getting disowned and maimed smiles like he is progressively losing all of it #and then he loses faith in cersei and her love too #anyways my point id that anybody who tries to use a twisted version of the nuremberg defense with him doesnt really understand him #and this applies to the blaming cersei part #he always owns these actions too like

[swordmaid]

i dont want to keep posting abt this brienne wip ive been posting but i want to. she looks so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD.

#i added the feathers!!!!!!!!!!! #originally i was like ok ill just do a quick sketch of the full outfit but then i started to detail. #the things that i do for brienne </3 #also .. im working on this on a snail's pace fr i havent even started on jaime #but i kind of dig the full outfit LOL like it's so over the top iM INTO IT!! #i need more ice and fire chars in over the top fantasy costumes that doesnt make sense!! #im thinking of adding an explanation to my design too if anyone's into that?? since both of jb's design is based off beast and beauty's #like i added specific bits of beast's costumes on brienne's but like the cape / bodice etc. is directly from #beauty's dress ... #also i love brienne in pearl i have a hc that pearl is one of the things house tarth exports bc they're an island #and tarth regalia features a lot of pearls and beauty's dress also has a lot of pearls + she gets this pearl chain #cape link thing idk the name from beast so it's perfect

[laotwormz]

GET NICHE'D

#lin lie #jaime reyes #blue beetle #iron fist #marvel #dc #was considering leaving the 2nd thing for the sideblog but i think its integral #to understanding why they both rewire my brain in a specific way

[nico-di-genova]

I love Blue Beetle movie fandom. Most of us took one look at Jaime and said, "Ah yes. There he is. A neurodivergent bitch". I have yet to see anyone think he is anything remotely close to neurotypical, and it's beautiful to see :).

#now me personally #I think he has a touch of the 'tism #he's very specific about what fabrics he wears #Jenny has one of those cashmere throw blankets on her couch #you the know the ones with the god awful texture that kind of sticks to your skin and you can feel it in your teeth #yeah those #and he sees it and immediately recoils #he can ramble on about specific cartoons and anime tropes for hours and Jenny will just be cooking dinner listening to him #or laying in bed with his head on her chest and letting him speak about it for hours #because he always sounds so excited to share the information #Jenny has adhd because her dad had it and genetics and all y'know? #and they just get each other #blue beetle #jaime reyes

[stvlti]

Actually thinking about the immigrant narrative in Jaime's Blue Beetle because... This is a 2nd gen immigrant with alien tech fused to his spine......... In an America where his parents (and probably himself) get slurs thrown at them for being "illegal aliens"…......... There's some kind of metaphor there

#and i wish canon (comics) did more with that #because while the movie (in Uncle Rudy's speech about paper trails deportation) and the 2006 comic (in the border patrol arc) #acknowledged the Reyes' immigrant roots #the alien tech didn't really play a part in those stories thematically? #probably because the writers figured it's a minefield #since the Reach *are* actually warmongering aliens #so it's not a flattering parallel #but I'm thinking of Khaji Da specifically #which is separate of the Reach as a sentient entity. Khaji isn't evil....... it's just an 'alien' being trying to do good in America #just some food for thought #Jaime Reyes #dc txt

[psychmerchant]

several of my mha tarot cards have been taken down :(

they’d all been up for over a year, so i don’t know why they’re only just now being flagged, but it’s still a bummer. i thought i’d post them here though so yous can still see what they looked like!

#the hawks one (among a few others) is still up though‚ which i’m really pleased about because that’s my best #my hero academia #katsuki bakugo #izuku midoriya #shoto todoroki #tenya iida #hitoshi shinsou #tarot #major arcana #fanart #jaime jabbers #lj arts #crunchyroll's ongoing redbubble crusade against me specifically