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babytarttdoodoo · 9 months
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This isn't a fic request (though I am looking forward to a lot you've got on your pending list!!) but you write Roy x Jamie so nicely as an established couple. Would love to know your thoughts on how they get together and how that relationship works?
Oh, gosh, well, thank you for asking! This all may well make it into a longer fic one day but in the meantime have my disjointed ramblings.
Firstly, I do think it would be a decent amount of time after canon before they got around to it. Like, a year at least.
Roy is taking steps to work on himself (namely, he has to deal with his temper and communication before they would ever be able to work) and needs space to work through that. Jamie is also experiencing probably the most stable period of his life he's ever had and deserves time to enjoy it.
If we think that Colin and Michael's kiss didn't cause an absolute riot in-universe, I could see Jamie coming out as bi (even if only to take the heat off Colin) and dating a few men publicly. We love a sexy little king getting to safely explore his sexuality with a rabidly invested support network around him. This could also be what triggers Roy to start thinking about him in that way.
Might be controversial but I don't think either he or Roy would have a lot of experience being involved with other men from pre-canon. Between football culture and the potential risk to their careers, women were just an easier option. I do, however, believe Roy knows he's attracted to men (20 years in locker rooms pls), but is just repressed enough to have never seriously considered that his fixation on Jamie might be romantic or sexual in nature.
Realising he feels jealous is a genuine surprise. It's probably still a while before he does anything about it.
Honestly torn between ' a heat of the moment kiss followed by lots of Talking' or 'Roy invites Jamie to dinner and A Very Mature Conversation'. Either way, they definitely need to talk extensively before anything happens.
Roy is Jamie's manager. Yes, I know there are instances of it happening in the women's game and being fine. A relationship between two very famous male sports personalities would, unfortunately, be a whole different kettle of fish.
Therefore they agree to:
Go slow and feel out if this could even work before getting too deep.
Having a few confidantes in the know (Keeley, Georgie, Rebecca, maybe Beard) so they're not in a closed loop of secrecy with each other.
Keeping professional decisions out of it as much as possible.
That last one is contentious because so much of who they are individually and to each other is tied up in football. When they do, in fact, think they can have a serious relationship, it becomes apparent very quickly that they also have to tell the team. One, because it will keep them accountable; two, because the number of times they're nearly caught fooling around is genuinely ridiculous.
Roy smiles at Jamie a lot. It's a bone-chilling sight without context.
Jamie will move to another team eventually. It's what makes sense for his development and career path. I have more thoughts on that trajectory but for this I'll just say that, when he starts getting offers, he does consider that it might make keeping his work and personal lives separate a lot easier.
There are a lot of good times. They understand each other extremely well. They push each other towards self-improvement across the board. Jamie is wonderful with Phoebe. Roy and Simon develop a baked goods based bromance.
There are some tough times. Their careers takes them all over the country and beyond. Distance strains them. They both internalise a lot of negative feelings for fear of ruining what they do have.
(They each think the other deserves better. They are idiots.)
But talking to each other always gets them over the hurdles. Loving each other always brings them back together.
Once Jamie steps back from playing, falling back on modelling and charity work with underprivileged kids, they finally, quietly, go public.
The wedding is beautiful.
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tomhollandfics · 2 years
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Soulmate Fics
* = smut
My Youth Is Yours - @waitimcomingtoo
in a world where you don’t begin to age until you meet your soulmate, tom notices you started aging when he hasn’t 
Learn To Be Lonely (Series) - @cali-holland
in a world where two souls are destined for each other, is it possible to find love when your other half has passed - or are you truly destined to have a lonely heart forever?
Soulmate (Series) - @spiderboytotherescue
sometimes finding your soulmate doesn’t always happen where you expect it too and sometimes, you’re just not ready to fall head over heels in love just yet
Not Like This - @angelic-holland
in a world in which your partner is decided for you from birth, in a world in which soulmates are predetermined by some arbitrary rule like ‘their name is tattooed on your wrist’ or ‘once you see them, your world turns from black and white to colorful’, you meet the love of your life purely by chance
Oh, Fiddlesticks - @angelic-holland
what if the first words your soulmate says to you are tattooed on your ribs from the time you’re born? what happens when you lost your first soulmate, you’ve given up on meeting someone else who you would connect with in the same way, and you run into someone who claims to be your new soulmate? 
Meant To Be - @mcumendes
what do you do when you are in love with someone and want to spend the rest of your life with him, until you find out one day that he is not your soulmate?
* I Only Feel You - @stuckonspidey
a world in which soulmates feel their other half, physically and emotionally - y/n has given up on finding her soulmate, prompting her to give up on him, but her other half, she’d come to find, is the leader of the holland crime family and in no means the easiest person to love
Mood Rings - @missnxthingg
(Y/N) grew up in the Hollywood scene, being the amazing child star that she is. But when Tom Holland steps into her life for a photoshoot, her whole career gets overshadowed by Marvel's Golden Boy, making her annoyed by him. But what happens when she finds out that Tom is her soulmate?
Invisible String - @peeterparkr
life has a way of pulling you and tom close to each other, then it pulls you apart
Soulmate!AU - @bi-bi-buckleydiaz
they say soulmates are a load of crap, that the words etched on our skin from the moment we’re born means nothing, that the universe can’t decide who we love, we choose - you were one of these people
IDK You Yet - @ckvsen
in which tom finally finds his soulmate
Just A Touch - @mcwriting
adrenaline spiked as you realised that the hand and voice belonged to tom himself, a quick smile and nod and he was on his way again - what you didn’t realise until later was the way your aches had disappeared and the surge of energy had rushed over you
* Couldn't Utter My Love (Series) - @peterplanet
in which she watches as tom lies to himself about who his soulmate really is
Happiness Is A Butterfly (Series) - @blissfulparker
you and tom spend your whole lives looking for your soulmates - how could you not see that you two were right under each other’s noses both coming from a mob family?
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what-if-i-just-did · 9 months
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Destiel Prompt List 13. Human!Impala ships it.
Trigger Warnings: temporarily implied vehicle theft, mention of fake death, mentions of carseks, mention of internalized biphobia, implied sexy times, using humor to deflect
Baby, Why Haven't You Yet?
"...." "Dean? What's wrong?" Sam said, looking from his brother to the place he was staring at. "Baby's gone." Dean said blankly, like his brain hadn't quite caught up yet. "I parked her right there! I swear." He said, pointing to an empty parking space. "Dean, maybe you're just getting your landmarks wrong. The Impala didn't just dissapear." Sam says, exhausted from the hunt. Witches, man.
"You think I'd just misplace my Baby?! I know where I parked her, Sammy. See? It's two spots away from the grafitti and right next to this double-parking douche. She's gone. Someone stole my Baby!" "Dean, calm down, I'm sure it didn't- uh hi, yeah?" Sammy was cut off when a guy tapped his shoulder. The guy was wearing jeans and two flannels, he had dark hair and he was barefoot.
"Hey." The guy said, in what can only be described as a bedroom voice. "Uhm. Hi? I'm sorry, do I know you?" Sam said. The guy's eyebrows raised. "Well, I'd like to think so. You've only been riding me for years."
Dean's eyebrows raised.
Sam nearly choked. "Uh, Wh-ha??- "
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Once the situation was cleared up, it was almost funny. The guy wasn't really a guy at all. He was.. the Impala. Those witch-bitches? Yeah. They magicked his frikkin' car. Dean was not happy. Sam still thought it was kinda funny. When they asked him what they should call him, he'd said he liked it when Dean called him 'Baby' and they should just call him that, and he'd winked, which gave Dean that moment of bi panic he always had which Sam found hilarious.
They'd jacked a car and gone back to the Bunker, where they called Cas, because honestly, what were they supposed to do with this?
They'd started looking for some way to reverse the spell, but with the witches already dead, most ways to reverse a spell were out of reach. Rowena was currently on a stretch of 'being dead' so they didn't call her. (At this point, nobody believed it when Rowena, or Gabriel, or Crowley was dead. There was this unspoken rule though, not to contact someone if they were 'dead' unless it was an apocalypse-size emergency)
Sam piped up about the fact that they hadn't even asked Baby if he wanted to get changed back, and Dean shut him up about it.
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Then someone mentioned something about how Dean was such a womanizer and Baby said something that would have some.. repercussions. "Oh I remember that... You haven't had sex in my backseat in quite some time, Dean. It's a shame, I would have loved to see you and the Angel. You have a bed now, of course, but I do miss it."
Baby didn't realise everyone had stopped moving untill he looked up again. "Why are you staring at me? I thought we got past that part."
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"What do you mean you're 'not like that'? Dean Winchester I have personally witnessed you being had by more than a few drunken mistakes worth of men in my backseat, don't you dare get biphobic on yourself. Have you and Cas really not gotten together yet? You both love eachother and Lord knows you find him attractive. What's the issue exactly, it's been years for Chuck's sake."
Now everyone was staring at Dean. Who was kinda sorta maybe turning incredibly red and tried to play it off with humor. "Uh. Not cool, Baby. You can't just out someone like that, and add the fact that I'm a bottom. This is betrayal, you know." He said, and nodded.
"Dean..?" Sam tried. "Sammy, just... I know, okay?"
"Dean... " Cas said deeply. "I-.. I know, Cas, I'm sorry, I never-" and oh.
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Sam could handle a little making out, but he's fairly sure he was gonna need ear bleach for the sounds that happened when Dean and Cas stumbled to Dean's room, joined at the lips.
Taglist: @ldthegreen
(yes we're imagining John Barrowman as Baby okay)
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charliethedino-12 · 1 year
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LGBTQ+ Gotham Headcanons
My gender, pronoun, and sexuality headcanons for Gotham characters.
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Harvey Bullock - Cisgender, He/Him, Gay.
The GCPD isn't an accepting or supportive place to work so he sleeps with women to protect himself. He's trying so hard to come off as straight. I mean, he and Scottie were engaged within less than a year of being together. I headcanon Fish as his beard. He wants to kiss Jim so badly.
Oswald Cobblepot - Transgender FTM, He/Him, Gay, and Asexual.
He would be offended and confused if you thought he was straight. Oswald is very open about his identity and will beat the shit out of you for misgendering him. He doesn't care about sex but is fine engaging in it if his partner (Ed) wants to. Gertrude was the most supportive person ever and always gave Oswald unconditional love. When he was younger all he really wanted was to be a boy when he grew up.
Jonathan Crane - Transgender FTM, He/They, Gay, Demromantic and Asexual.
He knew he was a boy from a very young age. Realised he didn't mind using they/them when he was a teenager and started to use both he/him and they/them. He thought he was gay early on because of his lack of interest in girls but started to question if he was aroace when he got older. They realised they were demiromantic when he grew a crush on his best friend at the time.
Harvey Dent - Cisgender, He/Him, Bisexual.
I think he has a preference for women but only slightly. Definitely uses his two-headed coin to flirt with people and it actually works more often than not. Knew he was bi from a young age.
Ecco - Cisgender, She/Her, Lesbian.
She and Jeremiah are in a queerplatonic relationship. She could get a girlfriend if she really wanted but isn't interested at the moment. The most dedicated girlfriend you could ever have. Falls hard. Had an 'oh fuck' moment in high school when she realised she was a lesbian.
Sofia Falcone - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
Strikes me as someone who isn't focused on romance or sex but could get a boyfriend or girlfriend if she put time and effort into it. I think she has a preference for women.
Lucius Fox - Cisgender, He/Him, Gay.
Acts cool but is probably a gay disaster on the inside. Tries to flirt and is semi-successful when he does. Says he's too busy with work to find a boyfriend and is slightly lonely. Doesn't try to hide his sexuality and has no problem telling people he's gay.
Victor Fries - Cisgender, He/Him, Bisexual.
Preference for men. He isn't that open about his sexuality but still acts surprised when no one knows he's bisexual. Is very casual about it. I see him as a very quiet and respectful person when showing his attraction to both men and women and just prefers keeping his feelings to himself.
Nora Fries - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
No real preference for either men or women. Would try and flirt with women but it would be seen as something platonic. She and Victor had matching pride shirts.
Tabitha Galavan - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
Preference for women. I like to think the first person she murdered was a homophobe. Could pull any man or woman she wanted and no one can convince me otherwise. She either just kills any person who is homophobic or transphobic in her presence or beats the shit out of them as Oswald does.
Butch Gilzean - Cisgender, He/Him, Straight
Raised with respect. The two most important women in his life, Fish and Tabitha, were bisexual so he is very much an ally. Type of guy to tell somebody off for making an offensive comment, verbally or physically. He, Tabitha and Barbara were in a polyamorous relationship.
Jim Gordon - Cisgender, He/Him, Bisexual.
Preference for women. Growing up he had some internalized homophobia but he overcame it as he got older. He falls for any pretty girl who ever so slightly flirts with him. I think he likes men who are either mean with a soft side or just a bit of a bastard(Harvey and Oswald). He and Harvey are both in love with each other but are just too stupid to admit it to one another.
Barbara Kean - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
Male preference. Had some internalized homophobia until she killed her parents and became free. Went to an all-girls school where she had a few girlfriends before getting in trouble for dating other women. Probably pegged Jim.
Kristen Kringle - Cisgender, She/Her, Omnisexual, Greyromantic.
Male preference. To me, she only showed sexual attraction towards her boyfriends before Ed, even then I think she and Ed would've been better off as friends. She very rarely experiences romantic attraction but when she does I think she'd be a little awkward about it. Kristen definitely pegged Ed. She and Lee would've been cute together. They're very dear to my heart.
Selina Kyle - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual, Demiromantic.
Female preference. She's had crushes on both Ivy and Bridgit. Acts like she's annoyed by her loved ones but would kill and die for them. She's protective and caring even if she denies it. Has only had romantic feelings for her friends. She has trouble admitting her romantic feelings for people. Barbara and Tabitha are her badass bi mentors.
Fish Mooney - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
No preference. Flirts with everyone. Doesn't tolerate anyone's homophobic bullshit. The biggest eyerolls. The greatest gaydar in all of Gotham city. One look at Oswald and Harvey and she knew they were both lonely little gay men. Harvey's beard.
Edward Nygma - Transgender FTM, Genderfluid, He/She/They, Bisexual.
Preference for women. The king of internalized homophobia. His whole arc in the show was him denying his bisexuality and feelings for Oswald. The Riddler is sick of Ed's compulsory heterosexuality. Hated his female body and started to transition during uni. Ed was comfortable having a male body but didn't understand why he was only sometimes comfortable being seen and referred to as a man. This led to him discovering that he was genderfluid as an adult. Never told anyone until Oswald and only become open about his gender identity after he and the Riddler became whole in s3. The worst at flirting but simultaneously the sweetest.
Alfred Pennyworth - Cisgender, He/Him, Straight
Does his best for Bruce. And I mean does. Biggest ally you'll ever meet. If anybody bullies his boy for who he is be prepared to be slapped the fuck out of. All he wants is for Bruce to be safe and happy and if Alfred has to teach somebody a lesson in respect, so be it.
Ivy Pepper - Cisgender, She/Her, Lesbian.
Disaster lesbian. Had a fat crush on Selina when she was younger, and still does though slightly less. Her feelings have pivoted more towards Bridgit. The original plant lesbian. Oswald is her disaster gay role model. Expert in the language of flowers and gives personalised bouquets to her crushes.
Bridgit Pike - Demigirl, She/They, Lesbian.
Oblivious to people's interest in her. She never really got the chance to explore any romantic interest they had with the women in her life before being burned due to her home life. She doesn't really know how to deal with romantic or sexual feelings. They never really fully felt like a girl and felt that there was something else to them. So the use of they/them and she/her pronouns felt natural to Bridgit.
Jervis Tetch - Cisgender, He/Him, Biromantic, Demisexual.
Male preference. Had a fucking heart attack when he had his first male crush. He had no idea what to do. Felt so guilty about it. He's just kinda pushed his bisexuality down. He started to accept his bisexuality as he got older and fully accepted himself by the time Alice died. I see him as someone who thinks sex is intimate and I think he'd only want to perform sexual acts with a partner who he'd found a real bond with. Thinks he is really romantic but his lack of romantic experience says otherwise.
Alice Tetch - Cisgender, She/Her, Lesbian.
I don't know why I think this, I just do. It's just the impression she gave me. She and Bridgit could've been arson girlfriends. Always knew she was gay just never got the chance to have a girlfriend.
Leslie Thompkins - Cisgender, She/Her, Pansexual.
Growing up, she didn't really understand why gender was a big deal to some people, if somebody was attractive they were attractive, why did it matter? At university, she discovered what the term pansexual meant and realised that it fit her perfectly. Has three types, dark and badass (Jim and Barbara), sweet and adorable (Kristen) or a mix of the two (Ed).
Valerie Vale - Cisgender, She/Her, Bisexual.
Male preference. Flirts with her sources all the time. She and Lee gave me some gay vibes honestly. Nothing is more romantic than teaching your boyfriend's ex how to lock pick when trying to escape from her own home and a crazy man in a tophat.
Jerome Valeska - Cisgender, He/Him, Bisexual.
Chaotic bisexual with no preference. Flirts with almost everybody. Used to bully Jeremiah for being gay (not severely just little comments) and then cried when he had his first male crush when he was little. He's perfectly happy and open with his sexuality now, he was just a homophobic little shit instead of a gay little shit when he was really small. Never been in a real romantic relationship before so he's useless when it comes to real romance.
Jeremiah Valeska - Cisgender, He/Him, Gay.
Disaster gay. Always knew he was gay. Used to watch male guests at the circus from behind the trailers. Jerome made fun of him for it until he had his gay panic and joined him. Can't flirt for shit but tries his best. Touch starved. Kinda lonely. As I've said before he and Ecco are in a queerplatonic relationship.
Bruce Wayne - Transgender FTM, He/Him, Bisexual
Preference for women. Started to transition at the start of s2. Felt wrong being in the body of a girl since he was very little. The only therapist he's been to is a gender therapist from outside of Gotham. He's just a little sweetheart. He does his best to impress his crushes. Overall, he's just doing his best to cope with his romantic feelings for people (Selina). I like the idea of Jim and Lucius being his older queer role models.
Victor Zsasz - Cisgender, He/Him, Pansexual.
He just doesn't care what somebody's gender is. If you're hot you're hot and he's going to flirt with you. Very blunt when admitting his sexual and physical attraction. Difficult to decipher if he's into you or if he wants to annoy the fuck out of you when it comes to his romantic pursuits. Breaks into his crush's houses and does shit like drink all their milk. Clingy.
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What do you think of my headcanons, do you agree or disagree? Let me know! :)
I apologize for any mistakes, I'm dyslexic so proofreading is difficult.
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freedomfireflies · 2 months
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Hiiihello 👋. Finally caught up on insufferable you, and let me just say…. I’m obsessed with this fic concept. You so beautifully allow each character to explore their place in the dynamic, and the tension that we’re seeing at the moment is so natural as they adjust (or struggle to adjust, in some cases) to the new dynamic. Like in some ways, I’m actually so grateful that Rebecca and H are settled into this 5 year relationship, because I think there would be so much more unease if everything new with Kitten was compounded by Rebecca and H still figuring out their own thing. Instead, we have Rebecca who is an absolute LEGEND. So warmly inviting Kitten into the dynamic, sort of guiding the way with teasing H about the intimate moments, revealing how their relationship works. Honestly Rebecca is top tier and they’re both lucky to have her!
And of course, it is so natural for Kitten to be jealous and nervous and settling in. She’s been monogamous for her prior relationships, and suddenly there’s someone else spending time with her crush/ partner. It broke my heart a little when she was trying to rush off the phone at the beginning because H was with Rebecca and has plans, even when she apologised for calling so early. Almost as if she only “has him” when he’s in her space or physically with him, whereas H was trying to take care of his girl and show her all of the other ways he could be hers even when es not there. I just thing that moment was so responsible of him, both the checking in post scene but also trying to care for her as she struggles to adapt to this newness.
And of course, the jealousyyyy. I’m glad H can admit it was hypocritical for him not to want her to call Ethan when he has Rebecca, but we have to remember this is new to him as well. We know he has shared Rebecca with other relationships previously, but so soon after they got together? Maybe not. And maybe (we hope) he’s feeling maybe some new things for Kitten which makes his struggle a little harder. I mean, we know I love a bit of angst and I see that coming sooooon if this Ethan bit does come in. In this chapter, H literally said he knew Kitten didn’t have any other plans because she tells him so much, and so what about when he asks to meet up and she says he can’t because she actually has plans?! And he’ll realise what she means and it will be a whole “oh…oh” moment. I will be HOWLING. And I can see him sulkily being like “can we do something Tuesday or is that Ethan’s night too?”. This man is about to get jealous on a whole new level. And maybe a bit petty as well, if he doesn’t agree with Ethan’s date choices (“he brought you to a horror film? As if, you hate those things. Here, why don’t we go see X film to make up for his horrible taste?”).
Lastly I just want to say that I have seen the other asks who were not comfortable with this dynamic and I think you had very respectful responses back. It’s true that this dynamic will not be for everyone, but that is why authors notes and warning tags exist. I personally am not so into fantasy themes, so when I see an author posting a new fantasy fic, I just done read it. I have no doubts the writing is excellent, I just know personally it won’t be for me. So I do hope you continue to write this fic, as myself and others are so invested to see what happens next. As I said up top, you’ve given each character their time to explore the dynamic and I think that’s a beautiful thing.
Sorrrry this is ridiculously long, I just had ✨thoughts✨. What was your favourite line from this chapter?
No because you don't understand, I just sat here staring at my phone with tears pouring down my cheeks over this because this is so incredibly sweet and kind and MY HEART IS GOING TO BURST???
Thank you so much for reading and for taking the time to say such wonderfully kind and crazy insightful things!!!! ALSO BC "Or is that Ethan's night, too?" THE WAY I FUCKING HOWLED OH MY GOD can I please steal this bc now I need him to be that bitter alsfjdf
I cannot thank you enough for reading and sending this, like I literally feel SPEECHLESS right now?? You have no idea, I'm actually going to think about this all week??? You absolutely got everything I was hoping would convey in the story and I'm 🥹
THIS IS SUCH A FUN AND GOOD QUESTION ILY!! Honestly......I don't remember any of the lines anymore so I had to go look HAHAH but!! I think I'd have to say, "If I don’t put a bit of distance between us…I don’t think I’ll ever be able to breathe on my own.” because I feel like it perfectly explains her reasoning and her feelings in this part! She's scared by how much she's starting to care for him and she knows this dynamic isn't sustainable when he doesn't feel the same way!
BUT ALSO ALL THE FUNNY ONES WHERE SHE SAYS SHE PREFERS HIM HARD ALSO HAD ME LAUGHING AT MY OWN JOKES AT LIKE 2 IN THE MORNING SO MAYBE THAT TOO HAHA
Thank you again so much for this, I'm.....still at a loss for words and I appreciate this more than you know!!!
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ima-ghost-art · 2 years
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I'm in the middle of writing a stranger things fic wip with robin getting vecnad and honestly? I forgot how fun it is to write angst lol
Robin faces being disowned by most of her homophobic family, vecna using her dad (the only one who stuck by her and still love her) to cause more harm
Steve having his "I CANT FUCKING LOSE HER" moment (frantically searching for her favourite song only to realise their mixtape is at her house)
Her favourite song is "I'm still standing" by elton John btw
Nancy yelling at him saying "we get it your girlfriend might die but your not the only one who cares about her!?" To which steve loses HIS SHIT bc nancy stop being bullshit that's his platonic soulmate and he loves her more than any romantic fling he could have had in the past bc robin was the first person to except him and ask if he was okay!!!!
Robin then having to face the Russians again, only this time forced to watch steve getting tortured (finally understanding why he wouldnt fully tell her what happened) plus watching/ seeing dustin and erica hurt and blaming her for what happened at starcourt!
She (like steve) blames herself for letting them get involved, she hates that her decoding a secret message for fun led to someone she now loves getting hurt
Everyone is not sure if they are more scared of robin dying in this moment, or steve, who the party is pretty sure has finally cracked when in his last attempt to find a song that means something to robin
Starts singing total eclipse of the heart like a muppet
Oh btw all 4 chapters (maybe more I'm still planning lol) are named after different lyrics from the song
Robin saves herself time by hiding in the memory of her and steve making thier mixtape (Steve's coming out moment/ Robin's dad being AMAZING)
I love Robin's dad in this hes a pretty cool bi king who just loves his two gay children (steve is his son, steve had no choice in the suprise adoption bit prefers him much more over his real dad)
VECNA (the bitch) tells robin as shes escaping that if she doesnt join him, she knows who will be next (yep you stevie boy ;))
Of course robin still escapes, but not without being utterly terrified for her bestfriend, not even sure how to tell him (or the others tbh) that vecna probably wont be targeting max this time, instead choosing to take out their hardest hitter
Que steve and robin having a VERY emotional hug (if they weren't co dependent before, they definitely are now)
Everyone else is just there in stunned silence bc gods damn it that was the most stressful 15 minutes of their lives and it got resolved BY STEVE SINGING BONNIE TYLERS "total eclipse of the heart" LIKE FRICKIN MISS PIGGY
Possibly gunna write a sequel involving steve and him getting vecna'd, (I have so many angsty ideas for this too (plus a bit of steddie)
and a prequel about the whole "mixtape" scene and stuff involving robin and steve being beautiful codependent queens being gay with a king that is Robin's dad helping them learn what love means where I project my 80s music taste onto my favourite characters (obviously that would include other characters but this is all based on platonic stobin so they're only guests lol)
Anywayyyyy this was longer than planned but maybe if other people like this idea it will actually get me to finish it (tho I still dont know how long that would be since I just started my new college course)
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therawrliveson · 27 days
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I’ve not touched this blog in ages, I’m mostly hoping this will end up being seen because of the tags. But I have some 9-1-1 feelings I need to get off my chest and this is the best place for it.
Bi Buck??? Amazing and fantastic. A storyline that is at the end of the day about Buck realising this big part of himself and coming to accept it and being comfortable with it. It’s not about Eddie, and it’s not about Tommy. We have bisexual representation which is so rare for big tv shows still with everyone being gay or a lesbian if that representation even exists on that show. This is important. This is bigger than a silly ship war.
But while I’m here! Buddie vs Kinkley (my preferred ship name for them lol). Who cares? Buck and Eddie have this wonderful love story and it would be amazing if they went canon. Buck is going on a date with Tommy amidst this new discovery and that’s also incredible? We get to see him actually on screen on a date. How fun!
It’s super frustrating to see people on twitter (and here but mostly twitter) getting annoyed that people ship Buck and Tommy and they have fanfiction written about them (literally saw someone mad about them taking over the buddie tag on ao3 which is untrue and also just exclude their tag if it’s that big of a deal? That’s an amazing function you can use). But people can ship what they want, they can enjoy whatever they want. As someone else has pointed out this fandom is one of the very fandoms that is so weird about people only being shipped with one other person. Most fandoms be out here multishipping on the regular.
Some people also have never shipped buck and Eddie. And those people are enjoying buck and Tommy and we’re all allowed to. I want to be able to enjoy this ship without being accused of being “disgusting” for shipping something that has actual onscreen romantic time?? So yeah I’m on tumblr and tiktok where people aren’t making every single thing about buddie.
People are getting cruel about it too, picking on both Eddie and Tommy’s characters over the stupidest stuff that the characters themselves are clearly over. They’re all friends, they’re all connected. Chimney wouldn’t have rang Tommy (even in season 2!) if they weren’t friends, Hen wouldn’t of come when Tommy contacted her if they weren’t friends. Eddie and Buck wouldn’t be close the way they are if Buck was still upset about a comment made in the heat of the moment over something they ended up having a conversation about! Like be nicer.
“Oh I can’t wait until Buck realises he’s in love with Eddie next episode” “oh who cares about buddie buck Tommy is where it’s at” can Buck just be bisexual without his sexuality being reliant on a ship becoming canon?
And to the people saying “you don’t care about Eddie” because we’re celebrating Buck being bi and not pushing a “Eddie is definitely gay” narrative at the same time that is actually insane. Yall are playing leap frog and you shouldn’t want an Eddie coming out story either just to make a ship canon. You should want it because it’ll make a fantastic narrative and it’ll fit a lot of what we’ve seen. And some of you do what it for that reason, but half the time those same people are complaining that Buck had this storyline first. Get over yourselves. Let people celebrate Buck. Let people celebrate bisexuality without making it about something else. Because shockingly enough that’s historically a massive problem and bi-erasure is gross af.
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polychives · 2 years
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Some extremely self indulgent queer HC for the original archives group under the cut. I go into way too much detail with them btw so be warned.
Martin: gay ftm transman, on HRT but no surgeries due to him on starting to physically transition after him mum went into age care. He/him only.
Sasha: trans woman, demi and bi. Been on HRT for a few years and has had no surgeries. She realised she was trans in her teens and swung incredibly hard into being feminine. Only just recently let herself be more comfortable with anything vaguely masculine (body hair, thick brows, upper lip fuzz, etc.) and is loving it. She/her only as well.
Tim: Just identifies as queer. He doesn't really know his sexuality outside of “he likes who he likes” and would define his gender as “whatever the fuck.” If he did put labels on it, he'd probably be pansexual and genderqueer, but he's very happy undefined. Also likes drag in his past time. He/him but she/her and they/them during drag or from certain close friends.
Jon: Bi ace obviously. I am, however, torn between afab and amab Jon. If he was ftm I think he would have transitioned very early on and is where he wants to be with their transition. Top surgery, HRT, and some other stuff.
On the other hand, I can more easily imagine amab Jon who assumes he's 100% cis during TMA with how he is written. He'd spend most of his life vaguely aware of trans people, but one day had a sort of 'Oh' moment perhaps when Tim was showing off his drag and went down a painful spiral of gender questioning. Coming out on the end of it realising they might not be very cis. Either way, he/they transmasc/non-binary Jon supremecy.
Cursed bonus:
Jonah Magnus: Gay homophobic man. I read one fanfiction that Jonah was trans in his original life and that has buried itself into my skull and will never leave me alone against my wishes. However, every body since his first has been cis male. Absolutely not an ally and has never done anything for any gay person except for himself. Probably one of those shitty people who thinks gnc queer people are ‘pushing it’ or something. Has called people slurs as insults.
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greypetrel · 11 months
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Hello! 💙 10,12,15 and 33? (if you want to and feel comfortable sharing, obviously) ✨
Hello there! 💜
Yeah, not entering much into details in public and outing myself as "Boring queer" but...
(also don't know how much this will be new for you but oh well you know where to find me xD)
10. Something that gives you gender euphoria (whether you’re cis or trans):
Boringly cis, here… Not very girly or gender euphoric, but. Dressing up and putting up a good outfit, colours matching. SWIRLY SKIRTS, particularly if they have pockets. (I own one skirt I LOVE, it's big and swirly and it has pockets, I'm considering a petticoat to make it poofy and going full '50s new look style. It gives me lots of casual Cinderella vibes and oh man. IT HAS POCKETS. BIG ONES THAT FIT A CELLPHONE.)
12. Name some queer artists/bands or songs you like most:
*after the necessary "I haven't ever listened to music once in my life no thoughts head empty" moment*
QUEEN. I have one Freddie Mercury in every space I inhabit. I have two in my bedroom, one is hanging in my studio right in front of my desk. Queen had been a big and important part of my teen years. I am not a person who cries at movies/music, but put on The Show Must Go On or press play on Bohemian Rhapsody (the movie; i know it has flaws and it's dramatised but still) and watch me crumble. My favourite song of them tho… I can't choose one. Fat Bottomed Girl? But shit, Innuendo is just… A mindblown. I always clean my house with I Want to Break Free blasting on because I'm a basic bitch and that's mandatory.
David Bowie came into my life later but in stride, he's equally important, he's been the one celebrity death I felt like a blow (still can't listen to his last album without crying). Rebel Rebel is a favourite of mine but out of personal affection, the soundtrack of Labyrinth is the closest to my heart (that whole movie).
Janis Joplin. And with her my big favourite is Me and Bobby McGee (Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose 🎶*sings*)
I just discovered that Florence Welch is apparently bi too, so FLORENCE + THE MACHINE. The list of favourites is long but… Which Witch? Queen of Peace? Free? Morning Elvis? Can't choose, ARGH.
… I have the music taste of an old man, yes. Also I have the bad tendency in not getting much informations over artists if I'm not EXTREMELY hyperfixated, and it's a little since the last time I was hyperfixated with a band. It may be that other artists I regularly listen to are queer but I don't know. Again, I discovered Florence is queer writing this answer, oops.
15. How has your identity changed over time?
I had not many close contacts with the community until university, so I just assumed I was straight and never really thought about it much. Being demi ultimately didn't help me put two and two together any sooner, and without the proper terms and words… It was all very misty. So:
Straight > … People shipping me with a friend who is a girl don't bother me. Maybe… > No no, straight. Uh-uh. Just an ally. > Maybe bi-romantic, yeah, that maybe fits if I'm not having impostor syndrome, I won't tell anyone tho, I'm not sure. > "Hi friend of a friend who's very evidently flirting with me, WHY. You don't even know me. You have everything I should like but… WHY. This is overreacting, I'm sure you're getting something wrong it's too soon. Nobody is that much into someone else so soon in real life, this is fake and you're mocking me, right?" > … let me check the ace spectrum… > Demisexual. > Bi-romantic I said? No no Bisexual, definitely, still with a foot in the ace spectrum but oh shit why the girls I befriended and developed crushes on are all straight WHY.
(in all this I know that there are many people I know IRL that realised before I did. Hi, hello, I hope it was amusing to watch. x°D)
33. What about your LGBT identity do you feel proud of/ want to recognize/celebrate?
For my mental health, but also for the one of many other people: Being a valid queer person even if unable to go to Pride (they're a huge trigger for me, I'll start panicking before walking), or out with everyone or with relationship to prove it.
And the bisexual inability to sit down straight and composed without our joints falling off. That's a superpower we should be proud of. u_u
Jokes aside, I think there's some poetry in saying "I like people for being people, gender is secondary", and as much biphobia there is around… It's a good message to give.
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f1-disaster-bi · 2 years
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I know this is a weird ask so I get it if you won't answer it but was it hard for you to figure out you were bi? Like I'm not sure what I am and who I like and I think I just crave any affection cause I've never felt love from a partner so I don't know who I'm actually attracted to.
This absolutely isn't a weird ask. You can send me things like this anytime, and my dms are always open too anon
One thing I will start off saying is that you don't need to rush or label yourself. Sexuality is fluid. There is no timeline for figuring out who you're attracted to or if you're attracted to anyone at all. It is more than okay to explore a few different ideas before finding what is right for you and everyone has different experiences.
I often count myself lucky in that my realisation, when it hit, it was clear to me but anon, I was oblivious as hell about it until it did hit.
When I was 15 I was volunteering for a festival our town has and this girl working with me put her hand high up on my thigh one day when we were sitting together and looked me in the eyes to say something and I had an oh moment.
Before that I had no clue I was attracted to women. Looking back now, it is obvious I was always attracted to both. I would often get my mother to rent dvds (yes I'm old enough to have rented dvds as a kid), I would often pick movies with very attractive women as the main leads and claim they were the best movies ever made (they weren't, the actresses were just hot) but I would do the same with males too (hello that time I tried to convince everyone Shark Boy and Lava Girl was a great movie when really I just had a crush on Taylor Lautner)
Have I questioned myself since? Absolutely. After secondary school, I didn't date a lot of women because I went through some trauma with two girlfriends and I needed to take a look at me as a person. I dated a lot of people because I wanted to feel needed. It was all men and at some point I felt like maybe I was straight. Maybe I had wanted attention like people had accused me of when I was a teenager. Maybe I really did need to meet the right man but no, I have and always will identify with being Bi because I'm attracted to more than one gender.
Sometimes people try to force me to say I'm a lesbian, or refer to me as that, and it annoys me because I am who I am. I am a bisexual woman. I am proud of that and have been proudly out for ten years, and sure it was easy realising it, but it wasn't always easy accepting it because of what people said to me or because I was dating a man and somehow that invalidated my sexuality. It didn't, the same way me dating a woman doesn't mean I'm not attracted to men
Sexuality is a journey anon
I wish I had an better answer that could help you but don't feel scared. Don't feel you need to find yourself or label yourself straight away. If people ask, use an umbrella term or just say you're figuring it out because there is nothing wrong with that.
I have friends in their twenties who have only figured out they're Bi recently, and I have friends who have explored and changed as they got older because they rushed to label themselves when they were still figuring out who they liked
You are perfectly you, and you will always find support for being you. Espeically here on my blog and from me ❤️
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evergardenwall · 1 year
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The new Jason liker is back! Honestly-- maybeeee jasico is winning out after scrolling thru some blogs 👀👀👀
If you have a second, love to hear why you love the ship / what drew you to it
oooohh 👀 feel free to share more of your jason thoughts here! i would love to read them :^)
as for my jasico journey. well. there's how i was first drawn to the ship when i was younger, and there's how i actually joined the fanbase and read fics when i revisited my pjo/hoo phase in 2021....which makes not just one but two origin stories!
so. first of all, you need to know that when i first started reading heroes of olympus, i was already obsessed with nico from reading the pjo series before, and also related to him a lot re: the rejection he faced and his feelings of alienation from both camp half-blood and camp jupiter....it's actually mind-blowing to think abut how my eleven years-old baby queer (who didn't know they were not straight yet) self completely latched onto him, both had a crush and projected onto this character, would spend hours looking at fanart and have their friend drawing shippy art of them with him-- yes, this is a thing that happened (and yes, i was one of those younger nico fangirls back in 2014... kind of cringe, i know, but that's part of why i still am attached to him to this day! he is so important to me! and hey, i turned out not to be a girl so 👀). LIKE. hello. younger sam. i know what you are
and then, house of hades happened; the cupid scene and nico having a crush on percy and actually becoming canonically gay had a stupidly huge impact on me. like, yeah, heroes of olympus is objectively the least good series riordan has written in terms of writing quality, but i would not be the same person today if hadn't read it 😞 and it's my favorite rip
i remember reading hoh for the first time back in february 2014, after a day out in paris with my grandmother during which i had dragged her to a bookstore because it had just been published in france, and feeling shaken to my core -- in a good way --, so closely drawn to this character for a reason i could not articulate. and there was jason's reaction, the way he also was drawn to nico, and his support for hades' son, later sealed with the chalice scene in blood of olympus. which was probably one of the gayest jasico scenes. btw (in my opinion, at least. and frank's pov is so fucking funny). so i was like... 'oh my god. jason and nico. [cannot articulate why they love the later beginning of friendship they have going on so much]' and completely latched onto them, but without realising it nor sharing it with other fans this time! because i was too embarrassed!
i already liked jason as a character before the cupid scene, but his chapters in house of hades and blood of olympus as well as his whole identity crisis storyline, torn between greeks and romans, made me love this character even more. imo, his best scenes are in these two books (although after re-reading the lost hero, i have grown to appreciate this book's jason a lot... thinking about when he meets thalia and the moments with leo 🥺)-- and i loved his dynamic with nico. i didn't openly ship them, because i was too intimidated too explore non-canon pairings back then, until i got into jercy on wattpad (it was certainly another time wdxwshdjs). at this moment, not only reading these silly little fics made me more confident in being a jason fan who read him as bi (because i was 13-14 back then, and all my friends at the time thought he was lame and straight), but it inspired me to write a tiny jasico fic, which i never finished but hey, the passion was there :)
after that, i got into so.langelo for a couple of years-- i wasn't familiar with archive of our own, nor fluent in english, which didn't help me finding content besides from minuiko's work (i regularly stalked her blog despite not having a tumblr account) and amvs with stolen fanart on youtube, so i ended up continuing to keep my interest in jasico for myself. seeing nico having a canon boyfriend when toa started releasing had me very excited, although i didn't really care about will..... (whereas i strongly dislike so.langelo but have a lot of headcanons about will as an individual character now. lol.)
fast forward to 2021: for a reason i can't remember (perhaps the first pjo adaptation news? having met my cousin's girlfriend and talked about the books -- and jason! -- with her very enthusiastically? someone putting random fanart on my dash? the world will never know), i decided to start re-reading pjo for the first time in a while, and because i was finally on tumblr, i decided to look at the different tags to see if jasico had a fanbase... and fell into the rabbit hole! and here i am now, sharing conspiracy theories 😞 /j
more seriously, my 2021 obsession with jasico was the first time i actually gave coherent thought to this pairing besides from the Vibes i was getting when i was younger, and rediscovered the things that made me love each character when i was younger. and oh my god, jason... i projected onto jason so much.
it was very comforting, too, like reuniting with old friends, and somehow made me understand a new thing or two about myself. i love the parallels between jason and nico's storylines and how compelling their pairing is from a narrative viewpoint. like. it makes SENSE. on that topic, i will never stop linking this presentation because it analyses the whole thing so well and i wish i could be this articulate instead of just being like.... poetic cinema reaction picture dot jpg. (my mutuals are way smarter than me. go follow them 🔫)
but anyway, long story short: jasico is very Good and i'm glad to see it's kind of becoming relevant again? <- i am unsure of whether we're witnessing a renaissance or if it's just my dash having a mass hysteria event... but i *am* seeing jasico posts getting more notes than usual and it is intriguing so 👀
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dawningfairytale · 2 years
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so lavender haze is a bop and i think it's fascinating
like ofc there's the "straight view" based on the mad men explanation she gave (which is a lil suspicious in and of itself but i'll get to it later): a desire to be in the ambiguity of love and not forced to commit to the extremes of "a one night or a wife". living in the moment, be wise, strain the wine, carpe diem, and trust as little in the future as possible, all that horace stuff. additionally, the "damned if i do give a damn what people say" does play into her public image and mental health and how, even within heterosexuality, she'll be judged regardless
however, there's the queer view. first of all, lavender is a very gay colour, and i knew that even before i knew i was bi (granted, i wanted to be the """"educated ally"""" and liked history and etc but it's not tough information to stumble across). additionally, even though all google searches for "lavender haze" will now link back to taylor, the madmen example that she gave is only really seen there and on urban dictionary. while urban dictionary is fun, i wouldn't exactly call it a reliable source (unless it's bitching about my high school, in which case it's extremely reliable). i think that most people who say "gay pride... things that make me, me" would be more inclined to think it's a queer phrase. "the 1950s shit they want from me" could be about conservative gender roles, but also conservative sexuality ideals (keeping in mind that the lavender scare about homosexuality was in the 50s while madmen was in the 60s). a lavender haze, by the visual in the music video, obscures the truth, and, while hinting at lavender feelings, cannot be made out. "all this shit is new to me", honestly, speaks more to queerness than heterosexuality. being straight is the default in society, but also to ourselves. a lot of women who had gay feelings thought "oh silly me that's just how friends feel!" (it is not, in fact, how friends feel) and that is the only relevant thing to me about mrs dalloway. "creeping up on me" could be a reference to a more-or-less recent discovery of these feelings. plus, "them bringing up my history", while it could totally be due to taylor's reputation as a serial dater rooted in patriarchal ideals, could also be about a) the women taylor has been rumoured to have dated or b) the fact that people tend to invalidate multisexual identities particularly if they haven't dated someone of the same and another gender.
from that second possible reading, taylor could've only realised her queerness while in a relationship with joe, because that does happen. i think that, due to more and more young people coming out (which is great and lovely!!!!), we can sometimes forget that it can take people time to realise their identity. it's possible that, even with all the karlie kloss and dianna agron stuff, taylor presumed it was just "straight fun" (the dianna agron clip of "i've kissed girls before, it's fun!" springs to mind), before a potential solidification of her own feelings c. 2019 with lover.
please keep in mind that this is all speculation, and honestly a lot of projection. i don't claim to know taylor's sexuality, but i do think that it's lovely there's a deeply personal song for taylor that can resonate with both straight and queer folks, speaking to her talents as a songwriter.
tl;dr - stream lavender haze it fucking slaps
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fool-of-a-took1 · 1 year
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Homophobia and transphobia is honestly really weird. If we have examples with the same principle but another subject not many people would think it makes sense.
For example, if we compare which hand is dominant. The norm and most common thing is being right handed, we’re gonna pretend that equals straight people. Same thing goes for left handed people corresponds with homosexuals. We also have ambidextrous people let’s say that’s people who like more than one gender.
Now I don’t think anyone will judge you on which hand you’re more dominant in (if it’s not a case of copying you while you’re writing and you have your hand covering the text(left handed struggle,believe me)), no one will go “oh you don’t write with you right hand, that’s weird/wrong/disgusting” right?
(Now this is in no way accurate statistics of course, just a comparison)
(I couldn’t really get in ace/aro spectrum example on this one without making it sound like a disability or something in style with “and then some people don’t have hands” and that is in no way what I want so I’m sorry)
We can also use food as an example:
(Once again only comparisons)
Homophobic person: my favourite food is pizza
Homosexual: I enjoy hamburgers more
Bi: yeah I like both
Pan/omni: Mhm me too, I also like sushi
Ace/ aro spectrum: I don’t really like any of those.
Homophobic: HOW IS PIZZA NOT YOUR FAVOURITE, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?!
(Now I am not saying that everyone that likes pizza are like that, there are a lot of pizza lovers that support other foods too.)
And then we have another one.
Let’s say that a person grew up with mostly crime novels to read and didn’t really like them. But then they realised that oh romantic slowburns are more their type of books. And then someone else realise that they don’t really like to read at all. And someone don’t really know so they go back and forth between different genres.
Now imagine someone going I there being like “Why do you not like the same genre, something is wrong with you” or someone being like “why did you realise you like this genre more than the one you had at home, that you never liked anyway, weirdo?”
Now this works as an example for both homophobia(other sexualities included) and transphobia.
And if you say that “liking the same gender isn’t natural” I’ll tell you this.
The only other species that has homophobia is a sort of spider, the rest of the animal kingdom doesn’t think of it negatively.
If you say it’s against you religion well let me just give you thing for Christianity(honestly can’t give you so much on other religions as I’m not really that well educated on their view on lgbtqia for the moment). There will be people saying that in the bible it says that you shan’t love a man the same way you love a woman (directed to males) or something like that and what I have to say is that *NEWSFLASH* God didn’t write the Bible, humans did. Plus the translation could have been wrong.
And like if God I’d love why wouldn’t he support love?
Oh and to the people saying “god doesn’t make mistakes” about trans people, that also means he meant them to be there and for them to be trans so you’re arguing against yourself, also there are people born with disabilities and we do stuff to “fix” that so why shouldn’t we help people that have been born in the wrong body?
Please don’t get mad at me for not mentioning you’re sexuality and/or gender identity, I’m not an expert and this is just my thoughts on queer-phobia stuff
Love is love and porn is sex but sex is not porn🏳️‍🌈❤️
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gettin-bi-bi-bi · 2 years
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I've accepted and love that I'm bi, but sometimes I still get those biphobic thoughts of, "what if it's just a phase?", and "your attraction to women isn't as queer cause you like men". There's other thoughts too, but those are sorta the main ones. It's a little exhausting and frustrating that I've internalized a lot of, I'm guessing, terf-y view points.
Have any of you ever felt yourself slipping (back) into similar thoughts? Even when you've known and accepted and love that you're bi for years? I'm guessing the advice might be similar to someone who's just found out they're bi but any suggestions or advice on how to deal with thoughts like these?
Personally I've not slipped back into any internalised biphobia once I've gotten over it, but an activism friend of mine (who's a very successful writer/journalist for queer magazines) has talked about this, which shows that even someone who is known in their local community as "the person who always writes about bi topics" can still struggle with this internally. She mentioned that her coping method is to give her internalised biphobia a name and whenever that voice would pop up in her head she'd just go "oh, Greg... Not you again. Just shut up!" and it helps her to realise how ridiculous that Greg-voice is because of course she's queer enough, of course she's bisexual, of course she's not faking it for attention - or whatever other bullshit Greg came up with that day.
My general advice for internalised biphobia can be found in this post that you might want to have a look at. Additionally I'd say: remind yourself how much progress you've already made and you'll see that things are much better than they used to and your are moving in the right direction. Also might be worth figuring out if those moments of self-doubt always get triggered in specific circumstances because if that's the case then there might be a specific solution on how to deal with those circumstances.
Maddie
P.S.: Those taking points are definitely radfem-y, yes. Biphobia is rampant amongst them because ~boohoo men are bad and anyone who enters relationships with them is a broken woman who needs to be saved and/or shamed for her life choices~. All the more frustrating when you stumble over a bisexual radfem and it's like... Girl... You know you're only barely tolerated by your radfem friends as long as you scold yourself for being into men and develop a very unhealthy relationship to your own sexuality, right?
....so if nothing else works, try being a proud and petty bisexual to piss off radfems.
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ouyangzizhensdad · 3 years
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Ok, so this isnt related to the current topic of discussion but I saw ur post abt lwj being stereotypical gay person falling for a straight person... I remembered my own experience as a teenager being obsessed with a girl in a class . I became her friend or tried to and followed her around (wwx's actions in cloud recess when a teenager remind of my obsession with that girl)
As I grew up I realised that I wasnt really totally straight, I had major crushes till clg and never realised why i had big crushes on women when i was dating a guy i loved and planned to marry. It took me to fall for an older girl in university to realise im bi and love women as much as men.
To me wwx realising later in his life isnt weird, he was obsessed with lwj very early on. He thought abt him when he went back, then his life became a mess and his life took a turn he couldnt control while being in control of it.
So I disagree with the narrative that lwj ever fell in love with a "straight" wwx
Hi anon,
Yeah that person was on the 'hating mdzs/mxtx' delusional train. I mean, for people who live where LGBT rights are not, y'know, great or people of older generations in the West where our visibility has gotten better, so many experiences are about the "oh shit" moment when you realise you are queer and suddenly everything makes sense, including being weirdly obsessed with people of the same gender for Reasons(TM). And that's something MXTX did intentionally because she talked about it in interviews when she says JC could feel like WWX was not treating LWJ like other people and he could sense, almost unconsciously, that it was because he had a crush on him. But these people do not care!!! They simply do not care!!!!!!
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gayfrenchtoast · 3 years
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Okay fine we're doing this. I havent read the books and I'm probably not going to I've only seen the movies so I'm sorry if anything I say is contradictory or has already been stated.
So! Descendants 3 was kinda shit and I dont like it but especially because of the ending because everybody was like "oh yeah island is open and we're all happy with no worries or implications about free villains or people being spiteful about being imprisoned for years!" In fact if anything they joked about those things.
The island is basically its own culture, I can't say how long it's been around, long enough for some almost adult kids to be about and to develop a kind of community.
The Isle is a place of poverty, people are dirty and on the street, eveyone steals from each other and most people don't put much effort into appearance upkeep (personal or of the sourounding area) not because of laziness or being "evil" but because they clearly don't have time or luxury to do such things or possibly even the clean water. Does the Isle have clean water?? How to they get electricity??? Someone tell me!
Another thing that I've noticed is easy to see but is not much explicitly said is the unique style of those on the Isle. As previously stated they don't have much but those who have the most "power" and such on the Isle are the best example of this As they have the most colourful outfits. However these outfits are often made out of patches and ripped things put together, even salvaged things like nets and chains as we can see on thing like Uma and Harry's outfits in D3 they make the best of what they've got and they do fantastic because their outfits are intricate and detailed and just tell you everything you need to know about them. Which is why it's a damn s h a m e when the original VK's ajust their style to be more like Auradon's. That's not an improvement! Be proud of where you came from!! It's like they forgot what it was like being on the Isle in D3!
Moving on, here's something that was touched on in D2 but not enough. Equality. On the Isle there is basically equal opportunity as in saying everything is shit and nome cares what gender and presumably what sexuality you are as long as you can work. Sexism is shown to be almost casual in aurodon from the looks of it, Chad makes sexist comments and litterally none else says anything or seems to see anything wrong with it except Jay who caves to pressure from peers and expectations. He does redeem himself because he's from the isle and he knows you shouldn't give a shit about anyone's gender or anything. If they can do something and ask to be included you give them that opportunity. The sexism is also implied in the way that the rule book has men written specifically in the first place and that it has taken until then for anyone but boys to be allowed on any kind of sports team. We never see it! It seems to be the hetronormative veiw where the boys do sport and girls do cheerleeding and other genders? What other genders? Never heard of that? BAD AURADON!! I bet there's so many trans folk on the island just living their lives, thinking Aurodon is the better place and not knowing that it's a cis het filled nightmare.
Okay no I'm headcannoning now, if their are now a bunch of Isle kids at auradon prep they find it fucking aweful the way all these preppy royals are treating them and make the first LGBT club in Auradon. There is lots of pushback and they get bullied a fuck ton for making themselves the most prominent queer folk in the school until a fight breaks out and the club demand that they should be treated better, taking all the evidence to fairy godmother who is very hesitant because COME ON she's never been that great she is biased to Auradon kids and if putting away those in the Isle is brought up she is all on it, she is jelly spined about doing anything against the royal kids. So the kids are like "Fine, if you won't help us we'll take this to the King himself!" Well mainly the queer mom's of the group (you know the ones I'm talking about) who lead the others and protect the anxious queers as they storm to Ben at his fucking locker and demand an audience because they are being harassed and bullied and none is doing anything. Ben had no idea there was even a LGBT club (too busy ig) and is gassed there is one for a moment before he's like "wait people are harassing you?" So Bisexual King Ben gets his lovely Bi wife and they start coming to club meetings and investing in the pins and stuff the club makes. Most club members are pleased but the queer mom's are apprehensive that this will help until some assholes come to the club to do their usual bullying only to find King and Queen Beast themselves siting there with rainbow bracelets and bi pins and all trying to have a nice old time eating their fucking cupcakes what the fuck are yall doing? The bullying dies down quick once they realise it ain't gonna fly, the other OG VK's that hear about this become members and very protective over their queer children. Did I mention Dizzy and Ceila are a part of the club? They're girlfriend's. Celia is one of the queer moms. Harry becomes one of the biggest protectors over the group as the pan dad. He's been going around snogging everyone and anyone wholl snog him everyone already knew he was queer they just didn't have the balls to try and bully him over it as much as they bullied the lil club members. But now Harry can often be seen in jackets and shit with pan and general queer patches and pins and running around with his gay children yelling "MOVE WE'RE GAY!!" He totally calls them his queer crew. Anyway as a result lots of queer royals start coming out of the woodwork, obvs Lonnie is one of them, and the club eventually serves to bring members of Auradon and the Isle close together.
Where was I? Yada yada auradon expects girls to be pretty princesses and boys to be brave knights or dashing princes. It's shit and should stop being portrayed as good. Moving on!
Food! One of the things we'll established in all movies is that the food of the Isle is shit compared to food of Auradon. The Isle has no fresh fruit which likely means its almost impossible for things to grow there which is fair because again there doesn't seem to be much fresh water and there are always clouds overhead so no sun. Maybe there is some people trying really hard to grow stuff but the general attitude of the Isle seems to be "there is no time for that" and fruits are forgotten so much that the VK's litterally don't knownwhat they are when they come across them. That and anything containing sugar. Actually it's mention by Dizzy and Celia that they enjoy the fact that the cake dosent have dirt or flies so basically food there is terrible. We don't see much food on the Isle but what we do see seems to be beans, eggs, chips and shellfish. Basically protine and carbs that can be easily stored and produced. To be fair beans are kidna good for you but they're likely a sign that if they get any imports from the mainland it is canned stuff. Prison food. There's probably some chef villain that is trying their best to make good food out of the shit but honestly the Isle dwellers should be angry that they've been deprived of good food for so long not happy they're finally been given decency.
Moving on, music! Auradon dosent have nearly as many musical numbers it seems, the Isle songs have a distinct style, to them, the villains that basically "founded" the place were masters of the dramatic songs (with backup or solo) so banging music is basically ingrained in the music's culture, even for battle as we see with the fight between Mal and Uma in D3. Meanwhile Auradon seems to have mainly romance and "I want" songs. Even Audrey's villain song is basically an I want song.
Okay let's talk about the Villains. We've established that the VK's are not inherently bad. However not all of them can be totally good and there are legit OG Villains just kinda chillin on the Isle. They've obviously lost quite a bit of their power, motivation and sanity (isolation will do that to ya as they lost everything and the VKs know no different) but deadass? They were bad guys. You can try to rehabilitate them sure but you've basically just let them free roam, they could make a runner and you wouldn't get the chance. They were also shitty patents which is brushed over/joked about in the interaction between Carlos and...man I feel bad I forgot her name deadass their relationship seemed to come out of nowhere in the second film she didn't seem interested in them at all and friendzoned them multiple times I'm pretty sure Disney did that becaue queer kids were relating to Carlos and headcanoning them as queer (which they deffinatly are) but deadass their mom is an attempted animal murderer and has hurt her child as we can see from how they're afraid of her and her rhetoric and yet it's "haha I'm afraid to meet your ma!" "Me too cus im a dog! Lol!" Fuuuuck offfffff
I think I'm running out of thoughts so here's a last one for now; with the magical barrier down a bunch of magical Villains kids should be coming out for the woodwork. We know Mal has magic basically stored in her so it's is possible, she technically doesn't need the spellbook to do magic it is just inherent to her. So with the diverse range of people from the isle there are deffinatly magic folk in there. Actually if we're following Disney movie law I saw something mentioning Jay being half Genie and yeah! He should be half Genie! Jafar got turned into a Genie he's probably only human because of the barrier! Oh also Ben should be able to go beast on command as long as he had a better beast form than he did in the movies. And give him back the beard and fangs like fuck you he looked so much better
Okay I'm done for now
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