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Comparing loki’s friendship with mobius to loki’s friendship with the asgardians - How are they different?
1) Mobius sees past Loki’s mischief and recognize his potential for growth. The Asgardians ( sif and the warrior 3 for example) focuses on loki’s mischief without encouraging him to grow. They treat him with so much disrespect and that doesn't encourage growth in anyone.
2). Understanding and Empathy: Unlike many Asgardians, who often view Loki through the lens of his past actions; Mobius approaches Loki with a deeper understanding and empathy. He recognizes that Loki's mischief is often a mask for deeper insecurities and vulnerabilities. This understanding allows Mobius to connect with Loki on a more personal level, fostering a sense of trust and camaraderie between them.
3) Acknowledgement of Potential: While other Asgardians may underestimate Loki or dismiss him as irredeemable, Mobius sees beyond Loki's facade and acknowledges his potential for growth and change. He recognises loki’s intelligence, wit, and resourcefulness. Most asgardians dismiss loki. Mobius’s acknowledgement of Loki's potential empowers him to embrace his identity and strive for redemption, something he may not have felt encouraged to do among his Asgardian peers. Loki himself confirmed this when he told mobius “you saw something in me that i have not seen in myself’ . Mobius friendship with loki increases his self esteem and self worth. Compare this with sif’s “you deserve to be alone and you always will be” loki ’s friendship with sif and the warriors 3 tears him down and crushes his spirit. Instead of thinking about how to grow and develop his own talents; he is always thinking about how to receive acceptance from the asgardians and the only way to do this is to become like thor. This is really sad because he has his own talents and passions which makes him unique. But his “friends” on asgard laugh at him when he tries to be himself.
4) Mutual Respect and Collaboration: Unlike some of Loki's interactions with other Asgardians, which are often marked by disrespect, abuse; both physical and verbal-. his relationship with Mobius is characterized by mutual respect. Mobius encourages loki to bring his own unique perspective and skills to the table. For the first time in loki’s life, someone wants to work with him because they respect him. Him not thor. Mobius is not lookimg to work with thor, he is looking to work with him , loki. Him, loki with no hammer? Mobius is not wanting to work with him because he is thor’s brother and he has to tolerate loki like the warriors 3. No, mobius wants to work with loki because he respects loki’s skills and talents. For the first time in loki’s life, loki does not have to be thor or act like thor to recieve acceptance. He could just be himself- loki. He is not tolerated in the tva, he is respected by mobius, casey , OB e.t.c
In conclusion, mobius friendship with loki allows Loki to grow and evolve in ways that is not possible on asgard. Loki is not stupid, he can feel that sense of geniune friendship and care from mobius the way he never felt from anyone on asgard. Mobius said ’i want a loki who remains and he took loki to OB for help’. It was like taking your sick friend to a doctor. Loki never felt that love from anyone on asgard (maybe except his mum but she is his mum). Mobius friendship with loki empowers Loki to embrace his true self and strive for redemption in ways that he may not have thought possible before.
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How Odin show more love to Thor than Loki
Several factors might suggest that Odin loves Thor more than Loki:
1. Public Favoritism: Odin often publicly praises Thor for his bravery, strength, and leadership qualities, while he rarely acknowledges Loki's accomplishments or strengths.
2. Parental Expectations: Odin consistently expects more from Thor, grooming him for kingship and emphasizing his role as the future ruler of Asgard, while he often expresses disappointment in Loki and criticizes his behavior.
3. Emotional Connection: Odin shares a closer emotional bond with Thor, frequently expressing pride in him and showing concern for his well-being, whereas his interactions with Loki are often characterized by disappointment, anger, or indifference.
4. Decision-Making: Odin tends to prioritize Thor's desires and opinions over Loki's, especially when it comes to matters of leadership and Asgardian affairs. Have anyone noticed that loki tends to keep quiet when odin and thor are talking, and when loki was speaking in Thor movie 1 , Thor told loki “know your place brother”.
5. Familial Dynamics: Odin's actions, such as including Thor in paintings (the fake ones in the throne room celling) or favoring Thor in critical situations, demonstrate a clear preference for his elder son. This favoritism is often evident in their interactions and the way Odin treats them differently. He doesn't give loki a second look in public.
Odin , If you are going to adopt a child; treat the child equally to your real child. If not, don't adopt the child at all. Well we can see how Thor’s life would have turned out in the What if series if loki was never adopted. Thor would be “the party prince” and frost giant prince loki looked 10,000 times much happier than asgardian prince loki.
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I completely agree
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Tom with Queen Camilla, Olivia Dean and Hugh Bonneville at Buckingham Palace
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Loki shows symptoms of BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder). How the warriors 3 and sif might have contributed to Loki developing BPD
1. Constant Criticism: Lady Sif and the Warrior Three have been known to belittle , mistreat and even physically abuse Loki, which could have led to chronic feelings of inadequacy and low self-worth, common symptoms of BPD.
2. Rejection and Alienation: Being constantly ostracized and treated as an outsider by individuals he grew up with, such as Sif and the Warrior Three, may have led to feelings of abandonment and rejection, which are also characteristic of BPD.
3. Unstable Relationships: Loki’s tumultuous relationships with those around him, especially with Sif and the Warrior Three, could have contributed to his struggle with maintaining stable relationships, a hallmark feature of BPD.
4. Emotional Dysregulation: The intense emotional reactions and outbursts that often characterize BPD may have been exacerbated by the ongoing conflicts and mistreatment from Sif and the Warrior Three, leading to difficulties in managing his emotions effectively.
5. Identity Disturbance: Loki’s struggle with his identity could have been further exacerbated by the rejection and alienation he experienced from individuals like Sif and the Warrior Three, contributing to identity disturbances commonly seen in BPD. Sif tells Loki that he will always be alone and he deserves to be alone instead of saying things like maybe he could change for the better. Sif calls Loki a “conniving, craven, pathetic worm," adding, "You deserve to be alone and you always will be." loki admits to slyvie that he is scared to be alone. Sif must have noticed this but instead of supporting loki as a friend should she uses his weakness to attack him.
I personally think sif and the warriors 3 are great warriors but not great people! The warriors & Sif contributed to loki’s mental illness so they are not great friends to loki.
Why loki choose to hang out with them and calls them his friends, i would never know? They are not his friends, they are thor friends.
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Why i think sif boldy physically abuses loki
I think she does it because of her sense of entitlement. Sif’s sense of entitlement as Thor’s friend stems from her close association with him, which grants her certain privileges and status within Asgardian society. As Thor’s companion and fellow warrior, Sif likely enjoys a degree of influence and respect, both from other Asgardians and within the royal family. This elevated position may lead to a sense of entitlement, wherein Sif feels justified in her actions and opinions due to her proximity to Thor and her perceived importance in Asgardian affairs. Consequently, Sif may view herself as superior to Loki, particularly if she believes that her relationship with Thor grants her authority or immunity from consequences. This sense of entitlement could manifest in behaviors such as dismissiveness, condescension, or even outright hostility towards Loki, whom she may regard as beneath her or unworthy of her respect.
I think am the only one that has issues with sif and the warriors 3😔
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How sif and the warriors 3 might have stopped people from wanting to make friends with loki on asgard (am focusing on sif and volstagg because fendral doesn't seem to have that much problems with loki)
1. Bullying: Sif and Volstagg's history of mistreating Loki, whether through physical confrontation or verbal harassment, could deter others from befriending him out of fear of similar treatment.
2. Reputation: Sif and Volstagg's negative portrayal of Loki may influence how others perceive him, leading potential friends to avoid associating with someone who is consistently targeted or belittled by prominent figures in Asgard.
3. Intimidation: Sif and Volstagg's status as skilled warriors and respected members of Asgard's society could intimidate others from approaching Loki, fearing repercussions or social ostracization if they were to befriend someone who is openly antagonized by such influential individuals.
4. Social Exclusion: Sif and Volstagg may actively discourage others from associating with Loki, creating a social barrier that isolates him from potential friendship circles and prevents him from forming meaningful connections with others.
5. Lack of Trust: Constant mistreatment from Sif and Volstagg may lead Loki to develop trust issues, making him hesitant to open up to or confide in others for fear of betrayal or rejection, thereby hindering his ability to cultivate friendships.
6. Psychological Impact: The persistent bullying and hostility from Sif and Volstagg could negatively affect Loki's self-esteem and mental well-being, making him withdrawn or defensive in social interactions and deterring others from reaching out to him due to his perceived emotional volatility.
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That award was well deserved 👏
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Love these key lime earrings
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Why I think Loki was willing to sleep in front of Mobius's in the TVA but will never do this on Asgard because
1. Trust: Loki has developed a level of trust with Mobius that he may not have with others, including those on Asgard. This trust allows him to feel more comfortable and secure in vulnerable situations like sleeping.
2. Safety:The TVA, despite its complexities and dangers, offers a sense of safety and stability to Loki compared to Asgard, where Loki constantly faces threats and hostility from his peers (warriors 3 and sif who physically abuses him)
3. Acceptance: Loki feels more accepted and valued in the TVA, where his skills and abilities are recognized and utilized, whereas on Asgard, he often feels like an outcast or second-class citizen.
4. Emotional Connection:Loki have developed an emotional connection with Mobius that he hasn't experienced with others on Asgard. This emotional bond can contribute to feelings of comfort and security, making it easier for Loki to relax and sleep.
5. Absence of hostility and mockery : In the TVA, Loki doesn't face the same level of hostility and mockery that he encounters on Asgard (even servants that serve wine mock Loki). This absence of constant mockery and hostility may allow him to let his guard down and rest more easily.
Overall, Loki's willingness to sleep in front of Mobius in the TVA reflects the trust, safety, acceptance, emotional connection, and absence of hostility that he feels in the tva compared to Asgard.
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1. While Loki holds the status of a prince, his relationship with the Warriors Three and Sif may not be defined solely by his royal title. Within their social or professional context, they may perceive themselves as his equals or even superior due to factors such as combat prowess. Additionally, Loki’s behavior or reputation within their group dynamics may contribute to their perception of him as lower in status.
Why didn't loki report them
Loki could potentially report their mistreatment, but this action could have various consequences. Reporting them might lead to further tension or retaliation, damage Loki’s reputation or relationships within Asgardian society, or undermine his own authority or perceived strength as a prince. Additionally, if Loki feels isolated or lacks support from others in positions of authority, he may be hesitant to report their behavior for fear of repercussions or being labeled as weak or unable to handle interpersonal conflicts.
What do you think of this?
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Re watching thor 1 made me dislike sif and the warriors 3 because of their treatment of loki
Am I the only one feely that warriors 4 and heimdall are getting to easy 'free card'.
Let's take a look heimdall gave order by odin self to not to open bifrost for anyone except himself but well heimdall violate the order and let Thor go to jotuheim, then heimdall literally swer to loki to loyal to him when loki became King ,then he violateit. Then heimdall accused loki to bring jtun to Asgard (loki did it) without any evidence and don't forget after loki like 'you are a taitor' to heimdall, the first thing he did was trying to kill loki. Then in he doing teason to odin in TDW, and he getting , 'free card' and in LAT heimdall went o Valhalla (but I guess since he died in battle it's make sense)
Warriors 4 , ugh. I hate them so much they are thor's friends, part of Knight. It's very annoying that they are thinking they are better than they Prince (loki) , I know that loki is not like warrior but he still they Prince and he should getting respect no care if they like him or not, that is how monarchy work. I blame thor for loki lack of respect because if his brother not respect him how could other can respect him too. Also really, they just didn treason when loki like half a day became king ? They claim for greater good, I think they did for they own ego and they didn't like loki at all, and they did treason again this time to odin in TDW then they just getting 'free card' again 😒
My hate bigger is for sif, specially when memori! Sif hit loki and saying he deserve alone, how Dare she. I didn't give a shit if loki cut her hair or her organs,she had no right, she lower rank than loki. Odin and frigga are the one can punished loki not her or any thor's friends.
Well, starting with Sif, if I'm being completely honest here I understand why she was so mad and I would have punched him in the face too if he cut my hair. Loki or not, he'd be meeting these hands! 🤛🤜😜. I know she's lower rank and he's a prince but what he did was a jerk move.
Other than that, I agree that The Warriors 3 and Sif are so amazingly dumb in the first movie it's almost funny. They're basically "yes men" and they seem to enjoy some form of leniency because every time they betray Odin nothing happens to them.
As for Heimdall... to be frank I think he always was the most capable figure on Asgard. He does have his faults, especially in the first movie, but trusting Thor in TDW is the right call as they needed Jane out of Asgard. And it seems Odin trusted him enough to consider why he had committed treason.
I see your point though. The hierarchy is clear when it comes to other characters but with Loki the status quo is completely upside down: He's a prince but he can be talked down to, ignored by the einherjar, yelled at by Heimdall, and no one seems to bat an eye when all this happens. It's nice that the first movie showed us that and we could see his reactions to all this, but they should have done something with it too - you can't show us a prince who is not taken seriously and is disrespected by his people and then not pull on that thread to take the opportunity to discuss Asgard's racism.
They get a pass but not Loki. Dude's a scapegoat, it's basically his role in the MCU 🤷‍♀️
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25 posts!
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I find it hard to like Loki and not dislike this character. She doesn’t judge Loki she condemns him whilst she is not perfect herself. She is a great warrior but not a great character in my opinion. What do Loki fans think of her?
#loki #Loki2 #LokiS2 #LokiSeason2 #lokius #sylvie
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After episode 2 I thought Sylvie doesn’t want Loki romantically, she just wanted to be friends with him. Now I am thinking Sylvie doesn’t care about Loki at all , I spent 2 years shipping them 😭.
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FIRST OFFICIAL TRAILER FOR LOKI SEASON 2
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Always have been. Always will be.
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