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giac222 · 4 days

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This is a more serious post y’all. So, it’s come to my attention that people are now using TCOAAL as an excuse to support real life incest? Even more so than before. Mfs have officially lost the plot. Again, this is yet another example of the fanbase giving the game a bad reputation.

You guys know I love Ashley and Andrew sm, but their relationship isn’t normal, and it isn’t supposed to be. Again, you guys know I love them, and I want them to have their happy ending, but you have to remember that their situation is incredibly unique. They had a horrible upbringing, were fucked over by their parents, and live in a totally dystopian society. They’re now on the run because they have no choice. They quite literally only have each other, and despite their issues, you know they really love each other. Plus they’re FICTIONAL characters.

I was considering rejoining the subreddit, because I actually did have some good conversations about the game there before, but I quickly changed my mind. I thought it maybe calmed down, but no, it just got worse.

Including this screenshot for more context:

This was in response to someone posting about showing the game to a sibling couple IRL….💀. The mods locked the top comment in the screenshot despite them having common sense??? Wtf.

About the bottom comment, Yes??? people are fine with all that because it’s a VIDEO GAME, it’s not fkn real?? Actually insane.

What the fck is going on y’all? 😭

I can’t believe I have to say this, but no, in the grand scheme of things it’s not normal to fall in love with a sibling like hello? There are people who have trauma with real life incest, and will tell you how harmful it is to encourage. You try to tell these dummies that though and they’ll downvote you into oblivion. (When I used to be on the subreddit I got downvoted because I said supporting real life incest isn’t a good idea). 🤦🏻‍♀️

When it comes to TCOAAL, it’s like these people can’t find a healthy middle ground, it’s always one extreme or the other. You have one side that’s like “omg I hate this game, bad things should never be portrayed in media!” 🤬 and the other side is “yeah real life incest is totally okay and should be normalized actually!” 🤪. Like what???? It’s like none of these people know how to differentiate fiction from reality, and I find that very concerning.

Yeah, I’ll never forgive the people who hate without actually knowing anything about the game, AND that part of the fanbase for causing the game to be completely misconstrued. I held back from mentioning this before, but the sad reality is, it’s not hard to see that a lot of people only like the game for one thing, and It’s a damn shame. I mean during my time on the sub, there were hardly any discussions about the actual game, and If there were, those posts hardly got any traction compared to the NSFW stuff people posted. I’m like at this point you people are acting like the fanon stuff is canon😂. There’s an entire NSFW sub dedicated to the game, yet there was still so much of it on the main sub. Like I’ve said before, if outsiders see that and that’s their first impression, yeah it’s not a good look and I can see why it’s off putting for people.

Here’s another screenshotted comment from the same thread as the screenshot included earlier in this post:

This person confirmed what I already thought about a lot of the members in the subreddit btw. Mf this is a gaming subreddit?? Literally just go to pornhub. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Insane.

That’s why I stated in another post that fanon Ashley is like a completely different entity to me at this point lmao. Like that’s not Ashley, that’s Ashleigh 😭. Saw someone on Twitter say “Leyley is definitely an anal girl” 🤪, I was like huh? My girlie is a virgin who doesn’t really care about sex. Lmao?? People just be sayin anything 💀. Touching grass is needed. Also, despite her viewing sex as transactional (for now), I think Andrew’s the only person she’d actually sleep with as he’s the only person she loves, that’s just my opinion though. Even when she contemplated possibly getting pregnant by the neighbor in their apartment to get out of quarantine, I don’t think she was actually going to go through with it.

Also, I’m breaking my silence, people on the sub were/are just annoyingly horny, like of course being horny is normal (duh), but I’d see the comments and I’m like?? How are you not embarrassed typing that out? 💀 good lord. I think a lot of them are teenagers, but tbh that makes it even more awkward, like I’m an adult, I don’t want to see that from y’all 😐. I hope I don’t sound like a prude when I say this, because that’s not my intention, but it’s obvious some of them consume more porn than they probably should 🥴. Viewing NSFW stuff is normal, but too much of anything isn’t good for you.

I could go into why teenagers and adults need their own separate internet, but that’s a completely different post 😂. Also, no offense, but I feel like most (not all) teens type and act the same online, like they aren’t hard to spot. If that makes sense.

This is why I don’t associate with the fandom, at all. I fw the Tumblr community, but that’s it.

This is kind of a rant post? But tbh, I don’t think these people understand the harmful shit they’re pushing by supporting real life incest. 🤦🏻‍♀️. I’m over idiotic people on the web.

#giac222 posts #not using any main tags for obvious reasons #longer post #kind of a rant post?#I had to break my silence y’all #love the game to death but I HATE the fanbase outside of Tumblr

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giac222 · 6 days

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This is one of my favorite moments in the game 🩷💚

🥺 The fact that she called him her pride and joy is so sweet. She absolutely meant it too!

🤭 and she meant every word haha. Peep the gray blush lines on Andrew’s cheeks in the second pic after she said that. 👀…. Cuteeee

Including these in this post too because I think they’re sweet:

“best thing in the world!” and the little jingle sound is included in this part… Yeah, that’s her man 🤭💚.

The way he tried to cheer Ashley up and make her birthday special for her 😭.

This is also one of my favorite moments in the game:

“Thanks, Andy! You’re my favorite lemon muffin!” They’re so adorable wtf 😭. She loves him so much.

So, Ashley has referred to Andrew as her favorite lemon muffin, her pride and joy, and the best thing in the world. He really is her boo 😂, she doesn’t want anyone else. Period.

“you think Andrew is all that, so you’re not leaving without him.” Exactly 💅🏻

Tbh, if you want to see just how much she loves him, just take a look at this image from the questionable vision:

That is a look of pure love in her eyes 😭 omg, like yeah, she’s in love in love. 🤭

Honestly, if I had to pick a song about how she views him, it would probably be “Daylight” by Taylor Swift.

Here are some of the lyrics:

“I don't wanna look at anything else now that I saw you.

I don't wanna think of anything else now that I thought of you.

I've been sleepin' so long in a twenty-year dark night.

And now I see daylight, I only see daylight.”

I’d say it also fits the fact that Ashley is 20 in the game, and how she hasn’t really had a good life 🥲 that’s her “twenty-year dark night”, but her and Andrew’s relationship moving into it’s next phase where they’re genuinely happy is her “daylight” , Andrew’s her “daylight” in general tbh. 💚☀️

If they don’t get a happy ending I’m gonna sob y’all I’m so serious 😩.

#i’m so normal about them #the brainrot is real #the coffin of andy and leyley #tcoaal #ashley graves #andrew graves #gravecest #coffincest #nemlei #leyley graves #andy graves #ashley x andrew #andrew x ashley #game screenshots

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giac222 · 7 days

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Motha Graves ♥️🍒🎰🖤❤️‍🔥🎲♦️🃏💋

🎶 “Andrew and Ashley’s mom has got it goin’ on” 🎶…. Lol. (This is a reference to the song “Stacy’s Mom” by: Fountains of Wayne, for those who don’t know haha).

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giac222 · 8 days

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🚺🎤🎸🌈🎧☮️💙💚🩷🎶✨

• Rolling Stone Collage (2020)

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giac222 · 9 days

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giac222 · 10 days

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☮️🎵🎤💚🌀💜💙🎸🎧⭐️

• Rolling Stone Collage (2023)

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giac222 · 12 days

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I bet you could use a palate cleanser after that video that was too much for you and perhaps others who see through the lies of Andrew Graves. Mayhaps something like Lectryn’s The illusion of being a victim?

Btw, there’s a fan artist who commented that after the way Andrew treated Julia, he deserves to be called Andy for the rest of his life. It was a QRT to their meme post of the woman yelling and pointing at a cat, with Andy wanting to be called Andrew and Catshley continuing with the nickname. It was funny 😆

Lolll, honestly, I’m used to seeing takes like that outside of Tumblr, nothing shocks me anymore I fear 😂. Thank you for the video recommendation! I actually have that saved to my “watch later” list 🙏🏻. I’ll probably get to it sometime today!

I think I saw that, was that on Twitter? Lol. I love Andrew, but he did Julia so incredibly dirty and was not a good boyfriend 😭. I remember in Andrew’s dream he talks about never seeing Julia again, and the fact that it didn’t bother him, bothered him. I think, at the very least, he maybe wanted to care, but overall just didn’t 🤷🏻‍♀️. Ashley was always his #1 love and priority.

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giac222 · 13 days

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Came across this YouTube video last night.. *long heavy sigh*

*cue Amy Winehouse voice* What kind of fuckery is this? 🎶. … lol

Of course I had to make a post about it lmao. Back on my bs, time for another long post. (Just a heads up). Sorry if I repeat some things that I’ve mentioned in previous posts already, I just feel like they make sense to bring up here.

I should have known from the thumbnail alone that this video would pmo 💀. I was going to attempt to watch it considering it’s only around 8 minutes, I didn’t make it very far though 😂… The creator said “This is where I present the tale of a young man with anti-social personality disorder who was transformed into a serial killer due to the parasitic influence his abuser had on him.” that line alone made me click off I’m not kidding.

“The Psychology Behind Andrew Graves” and it’s just loud and wrong 🤦🏻‍♀️. I’m majoring in psychology and am in the process of getting my bachelors degree, yet I still won’t diagnose either him or Ashley. I just don’t feel comfortable doing that. People are entitled to their opinions though. 🤷🏻‍♀️. I think some people look at mental health issues through a black and white lens. Mental health is complex, a person’s well-being is determined by more than one thing, it’s a combination of psychological, biological, and social factors.

So diagnosing Ashley or Andrew isn’t what I’m getting into here. More so the comment about Andrew being turned into a serial killer due to the “parasitic influence his abuser had on him”. Of course I’ll be talking about some other things too.

First of all, Andrew isn’t a damn serial killer. I guess you could maybe consider him one under the guise of “he committed 3 killings”, but that doesn’t hold much weight to me in this instance. When he “killed” the cultist before eating him with Ashley, Andrew had no idea he was still alive. The demon basically killed him already, the guy was brain dead. (So tbh, I don’t really consider that a murder). In episode two where they sacrifice their parents to the demon, after finding out that their parents were technically still alive and coming to the realization that the cultist was too, he wasn’t too thrilled.

Next, Andrew killed the warden because he was going to hurt Ashley, he did it to protect her. The lady in 302 was wronged, I don’t think anyone is denying that. In his dream it’s justified though, he says Ashley would have wanted to kill her anyway and because of “no witnesses”. I’ve said before that he killed her for Ashley more than anything, he did it to make her happy. That’s why he got so pissed off when she started accusing him of attempting to sleep with her, which led things to escalate because Ashley kept going. Her dying did make Ashley happy though 🤷🏻‍♀️. The only reason Ashley wanted to shoot that lady was because Andrew called her pretty, that’s it. With no witnesses, even though it’s wrong, it makes sense in their situation. Lastly we have the hitman, obviously they had to intervene because the hitman was hired to kill them first. What do you think would have happened to them if Andrew didn’t take out the warden or the hitman? There isn’t an excuse for the murder of the lady in 302, but had she stayed alive, she probably would have snitched on them 😬.

Andrew’s morals are skewed, he doesn’t really give a shit, he cares more about what would happen if they got caught. Still, it’s not like he goes out of his way to kill people or necessarily wants to. Serial killers get off on the power and control it gives them, they get psychological satisfaction from it. I can’t say that’s the case with Andrew. With the warden he said he had no regrets, but that’s because he used to leer at Ashley and would have harmed her if he didn’t step in. The only regret he had was not killing him slower, the reason? Because the warden fucked with his Ashley 🤭. He doesn’t play around when it comes to her. I just know that when the warden would leer at Ashley, Andrew’s jealous streak kicked in QUICK. Probably gave him the most intense death stare ever.

Again, based on the thumbnail and what I mentioned hearing before clicking off of the video, I can only assume most of the video is about how Ashley is the big bad manipulative villain that ruined Andrew’s life, and that every excuse under the sun is dropped for Andrew’s actions and behavior. It’s always the woman’s fault guys, haven’t you heard??…. 🙄🙄.

Honestly, whenever Andrew tells Ashley something like “get your head checked”, “I don’t know what’s wrong with you.” or “get help”. It’s literally just him projecting. I’ve never seen someone in denial so bad 😂. His repression is crazy.

There was a really good comment left under the video which I will include:

Exactly 💯👏🏻

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Ashley manipulates, or at least attempts to, but she isn’t good at it. During her and Andrew’s explosive fight in apartment 302, when he’s threatening to kill her, she brings up how she’s the only person who can make his nightmares go away, Andrew responds with “there’s sleeping pills for that”. Then she goes “yeah okay I got nothing”… 😭. Girl didn’t even try lmao. But she says she wants to leave with him, because duh? She loves him and wants to stick beside him. Not to mention that in episode two we find out that he doesn’t actually have that many nightmares, he uses it as an excuse to sleep next to Ashley and be close to her.

The game shows us that Andrew’s far more violent than Ashley is. Ashley got physical first in apartment 302, which of course she shouldn’t have done that, but Andrew almost killed her by choking her, and when he finally let go, we see that she literally had a bruise on her neck because of how hard he did it. I can’t see her ever doing something like that to him. Andrew will just casually threaten violence too, even if it’s just a a joke. What’s wild is the story about the lady attacking him with the nail gun. He said nothing in his dream about self defense. The nail gun was literally in the same spot as before when Ashley left, and the lady was deceased on her bed, she didn’t move an inch. Andrew most likely killed her right after Ashley left. (RIP 302 lady, she was in the wrong place at the wrong time 😩). Of course they over look that though 🤦🏻‍♀️, and the fact that Andrew is a very good liar.

When they were children, before their blood oath Andrew literally contemplates if killing Ashley would be worth it. Even after they found out that Nina died, he didn’t really seem to care, he was just worried about what would happen if people found out they killed her (on accident, they shouldn’t have locked her in there period, but kids don’t think of that stuff. They genuinely weren’t trying to kill her, they talked about letting her out in the Morning). Also, him grabbing Ashley and yelling about how guys and girls don’t go to the same prison. He said “They’re going to take YOU away from ME.”… So yeah, Andrew has always been the way he is, he just knows how to mask it. Ashley did not make him that way.

When Andrew’s mask starts to slip off, even Ashley is a little scared because she’s not used to seeing him that way, she thinks he’s changing, but really his true colors are just now coming out. That’s why the decay route is so sinister, it’s like Andrew becomes one with the mask. You could say his mask is still slipping, just in the worst way possible. I plan on making a post dedicated to the decay route sometime soon, there’s a lot to discuss there.

I made a post dedicated to Ashley and what she’s gone through not too long ago, so I’m going to try my best not to sound like a broken record here. However, it ties into this post so I’ll talk about it a little bit. Ashley is one of the most misunderstood characters I’ve ever seen, I’m so serious. I can’t help but get frustrated when people attempt to paint her as this evil bitch who was born that way, they completely ignore everything she has gone through and what she struggles with. Mind you, the game literally puts it right in front of your face, so idk how people miss the point 🤦🏻‍♀️. I think they just see what they want to see. Ashley literally hates herself and has had low self esteem since she was a little girl. She genuinely believes that she’s evil and that no one could ever truly love her. She’s 20 when the game currently takes place, do you know how debilitating it must be to deal with something like that for years?? From childhood all the way up into adulthood, that’s so heartbreaking. It’s basically embedded in her at this point 🥲. So yes, it makes me mad when people overlook that despite the game showing you how hard it is for her.

They act like she treats people as disposable just because, it’s like no, actually she’s able to do that because that’s how everyone except for Andrew always treated her. That’s literally why she clings to Andrew the way she does and goes to extreme measures to make him stay (even though she doesn’t need to, but she doesn’t know that) because he’s the only person who has shown her love/she could depend on. So yeah, no shit she’s scared of him leaving. People saying that Andrew needs to kill her so he can live his life do not seem to understand the fact that Andrew actually likes Ashley being dependent on him, he doesn’t want her to become independent. Let’s not forget that when Andrew went to snoop on the cultist, despite being away from Ashley for like 20-30 minutes at most? We see a text box that says “Now that you’ve got your answers, you miss Ashley.” Do y’all really think he’d want to live without her? Please be serious 🤭.

How people don’t get this yet I have no idea, but one can’t live without the other, period. Nor would they want to. They’re the love of each others lives 🩷💚. They only have each other. Why do you think they look the happiest in episode 2 at the end of the questionable burial route?? Ashley trusted him, and Andrew said no to the bs olive branch their mother attempted to use. People who say that questionable burial is the bad ending are in denial so bad.

Please, the flowers around his head in the first pic, he was so happy 😭. The way he’s holding her head in the 2nd pic is so sweet 🥺. He loves her so much, those people can stay in denial though lmao. The new and improved Mr. and Mrs.Graves incoming 😉.

To sum it up, It’s exhausting seeing so many people completely miss the mark on everything about TCOAAL, especially when it comes to Ashley. They have 0 empathy for her despite everything going wrong in her life since she was little, but overlook all the suspicious things about Andrew.

When episode 3 comes out and Andrew’s mask fully comes off. those fans are going to be like “WHatTttTt???? How could this be?”… like the signs were always there actually, you just had to pay attention. If people still think Andrew should be with Julia after the episode 3 preview video… then idk what to tell them. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I just feel like TCOAAL has been so misconstrued that I don’t even know where to begin, from the characters to what the game is actually about. I mean we got people watering it down to an incest fetish porn game (both haters and certain “fans” do this btw) - (no shade to the porn games out there lmao), but it just isn’t, like at all?? I never understood that because there is nothing overly sexual or explicit in the game. Yes, there’s the questionable vision, but we don’t see anything? We just know they slept together. I think some of these people are expecting a long explicit sex scene in episode 3, I don’t see that happening though, and tbh why would we? That isn’t what the game is about 💀.

I was on the TCOAAL Steam Community page a few days ago, and I saw this YouTube video someone posted on there. I think the video was titled “TCOAAL made me wish I had a sister”, and the thumbnail was a collage of like r34 pictures of Ashley, so basically none of her in the actual game. Fanon Ashley is like a completely different entity at this point lmao. Sorry, but I died of cringe. I’m like this is exactly why people side eye the fanbase 🤦🏻‍♀️.

I’ll never forget this one video an Ashley “fan” made, it was so bad y’all I’m surprised I still had braincells afterwards, if I could go back in time and tell myself not to watch it I would lmfao. There was a point where he flipped off the camera and said “fuck you Nemlei”, literally what an immature asshole 🙄. He did that because she made a piece of bonus artwork of Ashley lighting Andrew’s cigarette for him. I’m sure you guys will know which image I mean. I’m like well, if it weren’t for Nemlei you wouldn’t have this character that you’re so obsessed with, so now what? 😂. If you’re genuinely angry that the creator made bonus art of Ashley and her CANON love interest because you have a crush on her, I suggest going outside and touching grass. Praying that video was satire 🤦🏻‍♀️. Soooo embarrassing though, satire or not. Actually, I included a comment from under that video in my Ashley Graves defense post (linked above) and dissected it because of how incredibly stupid it was.

Mind you, the creator of that video at one point said “I’d do things to Ashley that would make feminists cry!” 🤪🤪. Whatever that stupid ass statement means. So let me guess? (trigger warning just to be safe ⚠️) you’re basically referring to rape? Color me shocked 😑. Keep this idiot away from girls in real life please because yikes 😬. He said that, yet in the comment section he said the incest in the game made him uncomfortable, like be so fr…. dumb ass 🙄.. LOL.

Look, I try to be civil, but these people make it hard sometimes lmao. I can’t stand wannabe edge lords, they’re some of the most annoying people on the planet. They need their own separate internet tbh.

Anywayyy, to wrap this post up because it’s long af. Ashley and Andrew are both flawed individuals, and they both have unchecked mental health issues, which isn’t even their fault btw. Sorry, but you can’t tell me those two are the biggest villains in the story considering the society they live in is totally dystopian + they were left to starve and die in their apartment because of their own parents selling them to organ harvesters. They quite literally would have died if they didn’t do what they did to escape.

Their parents failed them both, and the fact that they formed a codependent relationship as children isn’t their fault either. It’s honestly incredibly sad more than anything. I’d say that’s why I have empathy for them both as characters, they were both dealt a bad hand in life, and I don’t think either of them have been genuinely happy before really. They’re the happiest when they’re together, and as we’ve seen from the burial route, their relationship absolutely can improve. So yes, I want them to have their happy ending so bad 🥲. Especially Ashley, considering she’s got it the worst out of the two. People try to paint Ashley and Andrew + their situation as black and white, but it just doesn’t work. If you’re taking characters in a psychological horror game at face value then you’re just missing the point.

I feel like I need to hop on YouTube and create a video about TCOAAL to rebuttal all the messy takes about it on that platform 😫.

As usual, thank you for reading 😘. It makes me happy to know others enjoy what I post ❤️. Thank you for loving the game and these characters as much as I do. :’)

#here we go again lol #tcoaal #the coffin of andy and leyley #andrew graves #andy graves #ashley graves #leyley graves #nemlei #gravecest #coffincest #ashley graves’s defense attorney #longer post #long post

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giac222 · 13 days

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Ooo I love this!! It’s all so accurate haha. Thank you for making this 😭. This would be my multiverse of madness tbh.

Also, to respond to your reblog on my og post, thank you for your kind words 🥺. It means a lot! I’m so so happy others enjoy what I post! :) But yes, I’ve loved WOWP since I was little! Alex Russo has always been my favorite Disney girl! I’ve also been a Selena Gomez girlie since her Disney days haha. Honestly when I learned about “Jalex” being a popular ship, I started thinking about it and I was like “actually they’re so real for this” then I started drawing comparisons between them and Andrew + Ashley. It all started clicking for me 😂.

I may or may not have hopped onto the Jalex train 🧍🏻‍♀️(I’m years late to the party but whatever 😂).

I’m using this as an excuse to post these now because I couldn’t fit them into the OG post:

Like hello??? They’re so cute wtf 🥲. When I said my Tumblr post caused me to go down a rabbit hole I meant it 😂.

I know there were rumors that Selena and David dated, but I couldn’t find any proof of that. There are so many cute pictures of them together though like whattt. However, I think it’s possible that they liked each other at some point 🤭. Their chemistry on WOWP was so good too.

Anywayyy, I feel like if Justin saw Andrew smoking he’d have a panic attack LMAO. I remember an episode where Justin talked about how singing in the shower is dangerous because you could start dancing which could cause you to fall and get hurt💀.

I feel the same way about Alex and Ashley! I feel like Alex would be one of the few people she gets along with outside of Andrew. Ahh I love it, especially because they’re two of my favorite characters ever 😭💕.

Now thanks to THIS post I can’t get out of my head that Ashley Graves & Alex Russo would absolutely be besties with a simillar dynamic to Alex & Stevie. I don’t think Justin & Andrew would get along at first, Justin would not approve of Andrew’s whole Grunge / emo thing but then he’d learn that Andrew has a nerdy side & also they’d also bond over having insane / bratty / needy / “evil” little sisters that they never the less care about lol

Also I think Andrew & Ashley would be perplexed by Max but Ashley would find him funny & become friends with him. Harper I’m pretty sure (no, I know) would HATE Ashley & that might be an issue because Harper ending up in the Waverly Substation freezer with the meat miiiight but a damper on the Ashley / Alex budding friendship.

If that somehow didn’t happen though, or if Alex didn’t find out right away if it it did, I imagine Alex & Ashley would bond over having powers they aren’t always responsible with & that can be overwhelming at times & they might even have some actually touching moments. I just know Alex would understand Ashley after learning about the demon saying she has a tarred soul & that Ashley would feel for all the times Alex has almost destroyed the world. Disaster girlfailures bonding is what I’m getting at.

#reblog #thank you for this post 😭#i love it!!!#ily Alex Russo and Ashley Graves #longer post

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giac222 · 14 days

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I was thinking and I wanted to see if anyone else sees my vision 😂.

Tbh, Alex Russo and Justin Russo from “Wizards of Waverley Place” remind me of Ashley and Andrew, I’m referring to their appearances and how I think they have a somewhat similar dynamic. Alex and Justin have a, well, normal sibling relationship though lmaooo, and they live a more unproblematic life than Ashley and Andrew do. Still hectic though considering that they’re wizards lol.

WOWP was one of my favorite shows growing up!

The full sentence that gets cut off at the bottom: “Justin has also shown to be quite caring and overprotective of Alex, such as in Wizards vs. Werewolves where he both emotionally and physically protects his sister from Mason.”

Also, Justin is two years older than Alex, just like how Andrew is two years older than Ashley.

Like this is literally Andrew and Ashley irl are you kidding me??? 😭. They’d just have to put some black clothes on lol.

For fun, I thought I’d include some parallels 🤭:

Ashley and Alex kinda radiate the same energy, at least I think they do. Tbh Justin and Andrew kinda do too. I feel like people who have watched WOWP and played TCOAAL might get what I’m saying haha.

I wish I saved it because now I can’t find it, but there was an image of a scene from the show where Alex says she doesn’t have a library card, then Justin tells her “yes you do, I got you one” or something along those lines. That sounds like something Andrew would do 😭.

Last one!:

This last gif of Alex and Justin is so cute??? I love it lol. So yeah, If I had to fan cast people as Ashley and Andrew it would definitely be those two.

Doing research for this post led me down a Justin and Alex rabbit hole lmao, no complaints though. It’s fitting because recently I learned that Justin + Alex was actually a popular ship back in the day! Honestly… I see the vision. I never really thought about it before, but now I’m like wait 👀🤔 It makes sense actually, likeee they look good together 🤭.

Credit goes to the owners of the gifs used btw, I found all of them online.

This post was fun to make! I hope others see my vision lmao.

#maybe this post is delulu idk #coffincest #gravecest #ashley x andrew #andrew x ashley #jalex #jalex wowp #alex russo x justin russo #justin russo x alex russo #tcoaal #the coffin of andy and leyley #the brainrot is real #ashley graves #andrew graves #not my gifs

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giac222 · 15 days

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Something very interesting about how little Andrew cares about morality and how deeply ingrained morality is into Ashley's worldview

#reblog #thank you for saying this!#i love her sm #ashley graves’s defense attorney #the coffin of andy and leyley #ashley graves

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giac222 · 16 days

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Going on Twitter and seeing that the only type of posts about a female character you love that get likes are ones where they lewd her, sexualize her, or talk about how they hate her.

My honest reaction:

#especially when said character isn’t even sexualized in the game #or they’re misunderstood and get all the shit while the man gets a pass for everything #can’t have shit in detroit #can’t have shit in this house #I’m in the trenches fr #i hate twitter #sorry y’all I’m just speaking my mind 😂#but I said what I said!#this gif is hilarious tho I love it #not my gif #giac222 posts

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giac222 · 18 days

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Something sweet that I noticed is that Andrew does not like seeing Ashley sad, here are some examples:

Then he kisses her head afterwards. 🥺

This is one of my favorite moments in the game:

“This episode is titled: Andrew and Ashley and the Home Sweet Home Invasion.” They’re so cute 😭

Then there’s this:

After that he goes on to praise her cooking like crazy and talks about writing a “shitty poem” about it. 💚

Another funny thing about this scene is the part where Andrew is like “And yet the meat is drier than her lips, quarter past midnight.” like hello??? 👀. After that Ashley asks if she should buy lip balm, she was sooo oblivious there 😂.

I love them fr

Me when Andrew finally tells Ashley that he loves her in episode 3:

Lmao

#i’m so normal about them #the coffin of andy and leyley #tcoaal #andrew graves #ashley graves #nemlei #kit9 #gravecest #coffincest #andrew x ashley #ashley x andrew #leyley graves #andy graves #leyley x andy #andy x leyley #the brainrot is real #they’re my pookies tbh #longer post

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giac222 · 19 days

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giac222 · 20 days

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I know I'm terminally coffin-brained lately but hear me out it really bothers me that the perception of the Coffin of Andy & Leyley is ONLY "hehe incest cannibalism game" which is....not EXACTLY inaccurate but it certainly simplifies it ya know??? like I call it the incest cannibalism game too as a joke but I'm realizing there are a lot of people who think of it as like...a porn game? & btw I'm not AGAINST porny games or whatever I just think it's reductive & inaccurate to call Andy & Leyley that when in reality there is not even (so far) any textual sexual content beyond a demonic vision of a possible future. yes very obviously their relationship does have a sexual & romantic undertone, but it's compelling specifically because it's a complex story about siblings who have been genuinely fucked over by their parents & the world & they have developed a topically obsessive codependent relationship as a result.

like the initial conversation that the game's title is based on is Andrew casually half-jokingly talking about killing himself & it's just so..... narratively delicious. Ashley is not some horny one-dimensional slut who just wants to fuck her brother? Her reaction to Andrew talking about suicide is to joke that she'll race him to the balcony & he says back - semi sarcastically but we KNOW there's truth in his words, that he's clearly thought about this - that it would be too romantic, that they would be smashed together on the pavement, buried in the same coffin & like...the game proceeds from there with these two living in this intertwined fate, tangled together in ways neither of them can ever escape. it's romantic but it's also tragic & awful.

Andrew's love for Ashley will always be bitter & tinted with resentment because he was thrust with the responsibility of raising his little sister when he was only a child himself. he was made responsible for caring for Ashley with absolutely NO example of what caring for someone looked like & he was barely old enough to care for himself. Ashley never had anyone care for her in her entire life except Andrew & so she absolutely adores him to a dangerous & unhealthy degree.

like I hate it when people think Ashley is oh so abusive & manipulative or Andrew is so awful & selfish (she is manipulative & he is occasionally selfish) but like - as if there are not layers upon layers of WHY she treats Andrew the way she does & WHY he's so resentful. (as a side note I think debating who abuses who (aside from obviously the fact that they were both abused in different ways by their mother) or who's "worse" just...misses the whole ass point.)

and the cannibalism is initially about survival & the stakes are very apparent & built super well given the opening of the game spends a lot of time just demonstrating that they are literally starving to death to the point where Ashley is fainting & they're sharing a can of tomatoes out of the garbage joking that it's the best meal they've ever had. it is highly worth noting the way their actions escalate & get worse & worse with time as the game proceeds & you can see the way they're both getting more & more comfortable with violence & taboo. this game just would not compel me if it were just randomly "lol let's eat people!" get real

idk I just feel like people who don't know the game get the wrong idea about it when it's actually SO narratively rich okay bye

(this is not an anti Gravecest post either just to be clear, I fucking love the ship I just feel like it gets oversimplified often & also that Ashley especially is highly mischaracterized a lot, even in the game's marketing sometimes. at the core of the game are two deeply broken people who were fucked over bad & who are tied together in a way that neither of them can ever escape. it's love as horror & I loooove that about it)

#speaking facts 👏🏻#tcoaal #the coffin of andy and leyley #longer post #reblog

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