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Follow-up

This is in answer to some anons I got and some of the comments.

I do not blame Jared. I don’t think he did anything wrong. 

I do not “absolve” Jensen. I don’t think he did anything wrong either.

I believe Jared was upset. He wanted to be a part of the prequel. He was upset that Robbie changed the premise to not include Sam. He was probably upset that Jensen decided to go ahead with it after the leak, instead of waiting until Jared could be a part of it. He may have understood why the timing had to shift, but that doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t be upset. 

As far as apologizing, if Jared said they talked it out, and everything is ok, then yes, I am “assuming” Jensen apologized, because I believe Jared. 

The following paragraph from my last post mentions how they all had to make up a story, (meaning lying) about the hows and whys. The bold parts are the “make up a story.”

“Once this narrative that Jared was not ever involved and would not appear in it was latched on to, all of them had to run with it. Jensen apologized for not telling Jared. He said he was superstitious. He wanted to tell Jared, but he didn’t have his phone. That he was on set. That Jared couldn’t participate because he was busy. Etc. etc.”

For those of you saying “Well Kripke was there on set with a phone!”  Does anyone really know if Kripke was on set or if he was LA? I don’t know, it doesn’t really matter.

Full disclosure, I don’t know how Hollywood, or network TV, or anything works.  I’m not in that field. If you are, great. But, I do know that everything depends on the pertinent contract. Jared’s contract with CBS may (or may not) allow cameos on any other show, on any network. His contract may (or may not) allow him to be involved in the development of another show on any network. I don’t know.

About the re-watch show with Daneel, wasn't that just something to pass the time during lock down? It was also before they officially formed Chaos Machine? Also, which Zoom call, and when?

As for “implying” an “assuming,” aren’t all of us doing that? Unless someone has spoken with Jared and/or Jensen, and they have actually said something, no one knows anything.  My theory is full of just as many holes as anyone else’s.

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A rant and theory

It’s really long, but I think I make some valid points.

Supernatural was on for 15 years. There have been interactions with the cast, some crew, some producers, directors, writers, etc. due to the ongoing conventions and the existence of social media. Writers will talk about changes to scripts, actors will talk about filming, directors will talk about why they chose a certain angle.

Given that most of the fans/stans do not personally know any of the people involved or personally know anything about the things that are/aren’t going on, it’s weird the way some fans/stans speak so confidently about what happened with SPN behind-the-scenes, production, writing, casting, you name it! 

Especially when it comes to PrequelGate. People will state with their whole chest, that their version of events is absolutely correct. One J is an asshole, and one J is an innocent baby. Which J is which depends on who is talking. It can be either or both. The only thing that all fans who have theories have in common is that there is a definite good guy and a bad guy.

But the Js are still friends. They say they got over it and forgave. Since no one has given any details, I thought I’d join the bandwagon and come up with a theory of my own. One where there is no good guy/bad guy. So here goes.

I fully believe that the story of The Winchesters was not meant to be an AU. It was supposed to take place between 15.19 and 15.20, with Dean and Sam finding out about their parents.  They had to switch it to the AU version because of the leak, a new timetable, and the fact that Jared was no longer available. There is also a recent podcast (I don't have a link) where a writer from The Winchesters said that Robbie Thompson, the writer and show runner for The Winchesters, kind of knew that they were only going to get 1 season because of all the mergers/sales of the networks and studios.

Robbie Thompson said in an interview (https://tvline.com/news/the-winchesters-recap-season-1-finale-dean-heaven-multiverse-jensen-ackles-1234942742/)  “There was the spot that takes place in between Episodes 19 and 20, when what happens to Dean happens to Dean… So there was an opportunity to tell stories there, but that just didn’t work for me because we wouldn’t have access to Sam in that way, in a way that we could easily explain or at least emotionally explain, and that just didn’t feel like it was a story that certainly I wanted to tell and none of us did.” (Underlining mine) They wouldn’t have access to Sam because Jared could not be involved. Not because no one wanted him, but because he just couldn’t.

The reason I believe this is because of the following.

It starts with Virtual Con (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADYwrZ787a0) held in March 2021. In the video, the question about Chaos Machine projects starts at around 23 minutes. Watch Jared’s face throughout Jensen’s whole answer. He’s nodding along, looking at his screen, and not even showing the slightest surprise in what Jensen is saying. He doesn’t because he already knows. To me, that is the face of someone who already knows what the other person is talking about. Jared already knows which projects Jensen is working on. He knows which alum he is talking about. So he just sits there and lets Jensen answer.  His quip at the end that he will also be acting in it is just that, a quip for the fans.  Because (supposedly) he is bound by a 5-year contract to CBS. He can not legally get involved in Jensen’s project with WB. He can acknowledge that he knows about it, but he has to show that he is absolutely not involved. 

Next is the announcement of The Winchesters in June 2021 by Deadline. There were tweets by Jared that said he was upset that he didn’t know about it and that he wasn’t involved. There was also a tweet directed at Robbie Thompson calling him a back stabber that was later deleted. And, silence from Jensen, because he was unable to come online and address anything because he was on set in Canada. 

Things were set in motion that were not meant to be put in motion for a while. I don’t think Chaos Machine was ready to start casting/filming yet. I think Jensen and Jared were trying to make it work with CBS so that Jared could be involved in the prequel. But those talks weren’t finished, or possibly even started yet. But the leak by Deadline, the WB/Discovery merger, and Mark Pedowitz leaving, combined to put pressure to do the show sooner, while Pedowitz was still in charge. If they waited, then nothing might come of Chaos Machine’s deal with WB once the new owners came in. Maybe they were waiting for Jensen to finish shooting The Boys to get together and talk about all this, but they still hadn't.

And this is what Jared was upset about. He thought there was time before the show would start, so was surprised that it was announced without him knowing. It also explains why he thought Robbie Thompson back-stabbed him. Because he was going to be a part of this show, and now he couldn’t. He couldn’t even say he had been part of the development from the beginning because it would be against his contract with CBS. He can’t even say wants to be a part of it now, because again, it would be against his contract with CBS. He’s upset, because he hasn’t had any communication from Jensen about this going through, and Jensen was also unreachable. So he vented online a little.

Once this narrative that Jared was never involved, and would not appear in it, spread, all of them had to run with it. Jensen apologized for not telling Jared. He said he was superstitious. He wanted to tell Jared, but he didn’t have his phone. That he was on set. That Jared couldn’t participate because he was busy. Etc. etc.

But, when Jared spoke with Jensen, and was (possibly) made aware that the news came out because it was leaked, and that they didn’t have time to clue Jared in, and (possibly) they were thinking of doing the show sooner because of WB, Pedowitz, Zaslav, etc., and that they were still in a holding phase, Jared forgave Jensen.

All of the above explains the inconsistencies and “lies” and “tantrums” and finally the forgiveness, and moving on. 

I choose to believe that neither Jared nor Jensen are entitled assholes. They do not owe the fans any BTS details.

I’m sure people can tear this apart, but their theories don’t hold up either. 

#jensen ackles #jared padalecki #spnfandom #spn #prequelgate #supernatural #the winchesters #supernatural fandom

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Reblog if you think public libraries are important and should be maintained.

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Sarah was abducted by aliens. Sarah flirted to save herself. Sarah did not expect to become Empress-Consort.

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"This idea of purity, and you’ve never compromised and you’re always politically "woke" and all that stuff. You should get over that quickly. The world is messy, there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids and, you know, share certain things with you (…) But I do get a sense sometimes now among certain young people and this is accelerated by social media, there is this sense sometimes of, "the way of me making change is to be judgmental as possible about other people…" and that’s enough. Like if I tweet or hashtag about how you didn’t do something right or used the wrong verb… then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself because "man, you see how woke I was? I called you out." Let me get on TV. Watch my show. Watch Grow-ish. You know, that’s not activism. That’s not bringing about change. You know, if all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do. " - Barack Obama, 2019

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Blogging is new to me. Not sure what I want to write here. Never kept a diary or journal so don’t have practice just writing down what comes in my head.

So, I’ve decided that this could be a record of the books/authors I’ve read. Just for me, but maybe there are people out there that read the same books I’ve read, and enjoyed them too.  

#books #reading #love to read

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Started watching Interview with the Vampire. Wow! 

I have to re-read the books again....

#interview with the vampire

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Really liking what they're doing with the stories on The Winchesters.

#the winchesters

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Anyone watch Inside Man? It was so good! Really sad! But so good!

David Tennent, Stanley Tucci .... awesome!

#inside man #david tennant #stanley tucci #steven moffat

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Waiting for Manifest to drop this week.

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Guess I'll be on here more often for my fandom fixes once Twitter implodes.

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Hope those who only watched Ep 4 of The Boys for Jensen's scene, are over it now.

So many people commenting on a person's body today in 2022. Comparing it to another's. Fandom should be better than high school, not worse.

There are plenty of people online body-shaming and saying people are ugly. They are the ones you should ignore.

You don't get to point fingers and yell "hypocrite" if you stoop to their level. "I only did it because they did it last time!" makes you the hypocrite.

Too many on SM (all platforms) are obsessed with those they claim to "hate." Their feeds are full of photos/articles/memes of that one celebrity they claim has "betrayed" them or is an "awful" person. None of you know them in RL!

There are plenty of celebrities that I don't like or not interested in. I never see them on my timeline. I never go and search for their names or their projects. I definitely don't comment about them. I truly don't care about them beyond what I care about another human on the planet.

The opposite of love is indifference...where you truly could care less what that person is doing.

#jensen ackles #the boys #spn #spnfandom

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So enjoying The Boys!

Started watching because of Jensen, but the first 2 seasons had me hooked!

The whole cast, but OMG Antony Starr! Homelander is so awful, demented, insane...you name it!

Can't wait to see Soldier Boy...

#the boys #homelander #jensen ackles #antony starr #soldier boy

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Finally!

Finally!

What so many Dean/Jensen fans have been saying for so long! And Jensen has been saying ad nauseam .... that Dean was straight, that he loved Castiel like a brother, that he didn't play Dean that way.

There is no canon reciprocated D*estiel or DeanC*s because ..... Dean was not in love Castiel!

Not because Jensen was this supposed h*m*ph*bic jerk and didn't want to play a gay or bi character on TV!

#jensen ackles #spnfandom #spn #supernatural fandom #dean winchester

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Just saw the trailer for Death on the Nile.

Is it just me or do these new Christie films made by Kenneth Branagh seem very "not" Christie?

Couldn't get through his Murder on the Orient Express. Just can't see him as Poirot. I mean I'll take Peter Ustinov's Poirot over Branagh's. And that is saying something.

If he wanted to make a thrilling action suspense movie, he could have just named it something else and said "inspired by"?

#agatha christie #death on the nile #kenneth branagh

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So much fun content from Jensen! Some shots of Jared from Gen, and nothing at all from Misha.

Did enough people do a voiceprint match (with the appropriate software) to confirm that one of the voices in Jensen's bird video was indeed Misha's?

Did enough people zoom in on the reflection in Jensen's ski goggles and the reflection in Danneel's onion goggles, and clean up the images (again with whatever appropriate software) to prove it was Misha doing the recording or just standing there?

So was Misha with the Ackles in Colorado? Are they afraid of being seen together? Who do you think they're afraid of?

The DeanC*s/C*sDean/D*stiel shippers?

The H*llers?

The Winc*sties?

The  Bibr*s?

The Br*nlies?

Of course! Should have been obvious... it was because of the NDAs!!!

#spn #jensen ackles #spnfandom #misha collins

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Hope everyone had a good weekend and celebrated (or not) with family and friends!

#atla #agatha christie #doctor who #spnfandom #spn