#*stares at the duffers*

[very-feral-lesbian]

can we all say a collective thank you to joseph quinn for making eddie the most loveable fruity metalhead.

and can we also get a collective fuck you to the duffer brothers for mistreating his character.

#joseph stating multiple times that he was just staring at keery while filming w him #i love him fr #stranger things #stranger things spoilers #st spoilers #stranger things series #st4 #st4 volume 2 #joseph quinn #thank you joseph quinn #duffer brothers #eddie munson #queer eddie munson #steddie #fuck u duffer bros

[chirpsythismorning]

Something I don’t understand is how the majority of bylers were somehow fully tricked into believing that the Duffers actually forgot Will’s birthday, even despite the heaps of evidence that says otherwise..?

This lie was intended for the ga (Reddit, homophobes, those in denial, people not willing to look behind the curtain), who can now cling to this whenever they’re confronted with evidence of byler.

“None of that is proof. Don’t you know the Duffer Brothers forgot Will’s birthday?? You’re seriously reaching. It’s not that deep.”

They NEED this to keep the majority of GA away from figuring out the truth before the reveal. Because this curtain would open the curtain behind that curtain and they couldn’t let that happen. Because Will’s birthday being forgotten is going to be central to his arc in season 5, and not only that but also most likely central to Mike’s realization arc as well.

This whole dilemma just reminds me an awful lot of a specific scene from Stranger Things 2… and the irony that is the Duffer brothers out here giggling as they manage to convince 99.99% of their audience that they don’t rewatch their show, making a point to specifically say they don’t remember the last time they rewatched s2….

Like how can u be a byler and believe that shit??????

#byler #stranger things #mike wheeler #will byers #stranger things spoilers #if you’re not aware #the biggest piece of evidence debunking that the duffers forgot wills birthday is that they got confronted about foregetting back in 2020 #-and they acknowledged the fact that they forgot…. going as far as to make a joke about it… #and this was literally the time frame with which they literally just started filming s4… March 2020… #you’re telling me you believe that they had their s4 storyline set during that time #we’re confronted on that literal day in 2020… #made a cryptic joke like ‘oops sometimes friends forget birthdays…’ #WHILE LITERALLY STARING AT THEIR S4 TIMELINE AT THAT EXACT MOMENT…?? #be. fucking. fr. #stranger things theory #finn wolfhard #noah schnapp #byler evidence #byler proof #byler theory #byler analysis

[emily-mooon]

My villain origin story will be if Jonathan does not work at the radio station and it’s some other character

#LET THE MAN ANNOY THE TOWN WITH JOY DIVISON AND TELEVISION AND TALKING HEADS AND EVERY BAND HE LOVES!!!! #same applies to will too #also Dustin should also work there cause he likes radio stuff too and he could be like the sound guy or something :] #i want my dream of my blorb having a radio show where he gets to play faves become a reality #why do you think I made the college radio au in the first place? it’s cause I think he’d make a radio show! #i will be disappointed if it doesn’t happen #anyways I’ll try not expect it cause the duffers will probably give to a fan favourite (staring at you Steven >:[) #stranger things #jonathan byers

[messrsbyler]

someone please flirt with Will Byers in next season in front of Mike because first of all how can you not when he is adorable? and second of all, because i believe in jealous Mike Wheeler supremacy and i need it

#about to email the duffers about this issue #jealous mike wheeler #the footsie girl had the right idea (maybe a bit tone down bc weird how you are putting your foot on people's legs like girl) but the #timing was wrong purely bc mike wasn't there #yes we got him jealous about the painting but you don't understand #i need something visual over which mike goes full frowning and trying to pull will to his side arms crossed and deadly stare activated #will utterly confused sensing something is wrong with mike but not seeing it even though it's so clear bc he is still in denial #and cannot believe mike could be jealous over him #el seeing right through it and having the time of her life lol #jonathan smirking bc that's right asshole (affectionate (maybe?)) you have feelings for my little brother it was about time #enjoy being jealous lol how embarrassing of you #argyle would be the one to call mike out for his shit for sure even without meaning to #my dude if you keep staring at that girl like that you'll burn holes in her back lmao #will byers #mike wheeler #byler tumblr #byler

[fanatics4l]

that entire scene of billy being taken can literally be interpreted as a metaphorical rape scene. he's dragged downstairs by his ankles to an abandoned basement in the middle of nowhere while he's thrashing and screaming for help. the mindflayer holds him down and enters his mouth while he continues to struggle. when he's free, he runs away to his car and drives off to the nearest phone booth because he's terrified that it's following him.

he doesn't know what to tell the 911 operator, would they believe him? it all seemed very unrealistic. he has flashbacks and starts dissociating, replaying the scene in his mind, specifically the scene when it enters his mouth. and then he's faced with himself. the other billy represents the side of him that feeds his degrading emotions.

this is literally a metaphorical rape scene i don't know what to tell y'all. the way will's kidnapping can also be interpreted as a child predator holding a child hostage and violating him. joyce's initial thoughts must've been that her son was kidnapped by a sick person. and the fact that they found will unconscious with something forced in his mouth?? metaphorical assault scene.

and billy's shower scene? the black veins represent the phantom touches and pain left behind by his rapist. he's showering because he wants it off him but it's not going away. he's starting to dissociate and the memories are hitting him full force again.

do the duffers realize this connection? the show would be outstanding if they acknowledged the general theme of vecna/the MF representing an abuser/rapist who specifically targets troubled children because they're easier to manipulate.

#this scene actually makes me sick #why does the MF or vecna have to specifically target these children's mouths #its so gross #and then the whole snapping of their bodies and ruthlessly killing them? #that's a whole other thing #if the duffers noticed half the stuff the fans did maybe they could tackle more serious issues #also? the way brenner touches and stares and talks to el is so fucking creepy #i don't know if they intentionally made it creepy but it makes me gag #all of vecnas victims represent abuse or rape victims #but suffers are too scared to acknowledge that surely #billy made me so sad in that scene like oh my god give that boy a hug and a blanket and some space #he must've felt so violated #he probably didn't even initially know what was attacking him and genuinely thought a person was gonna rape him #billy hargrove #dacre montgomery #will byers

[tastytoecheese]

This looks like a fanfic

#stranger things #will byers #byler #the duffers are insane #mike wheeler #they should have kissed #byler is endgame #*intensely stares at lips*

[reikunrei]

hey do u think it would be funny if dustin’s “do you need to be told everything?” line was a (not very) subtle jab at the parts of the audience who refuse to acknowledge the referential and visual and otherwise non-specific details of the show that paint its more complex picture in favor of only focusing on what’s explicitly stated in the script? bc i think that would be funny

#i dont think the duffers would be that mean but also #i Too would be Pisst Off if a large faction of my audience straight up ignored the actual plot of my story i'd painstakingly created #*stares at how a core part of the show was always how nothing is pure black and white but now they have to actually say it* #i say things #stranger things

[infinite-orangepeel]

#the real reason the duffers wouldn’t let them smooch on the mouth #only staring contests boys #lock eyes #languid stare #good #steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #joseph quinn #joe keery #fruity four #stranger things #steve x eddie #steddie headcanon #stranger things meme #steddie meme #djo #steve harrington headcanon #eddie munson headcanon #gay stranger things #stranger things season 4

[share-the-damn-bed]

Something that I think about but don't really see discussed: if Nancy & Jonathan don't end up together, how would that impact Joyce? She already feels like she hasn't been able to do right by Jonathan. She has been waiting for his Emerson letter, she'll be crushed when she realizes that he is not planning to go (especially his reasoning). So if she realizes that the distance from the move contributed to him losing Nancy on top of all of that? Joyce's arc to me has been about starting with this broken home and rebuilding it into something strong (Hopper's too ofc), and her kids going on to thrive in life would be a part of that for her. I cannot imagine that they would end things for Joyce with her feeling like one of her decisions ended up permanently costing Jonathan his love, especially when her own story led her to hers (ps: I don't blame Joyce for the move or for Jonathan's struggles, I'm just thinking about the blame that Joyce would place on herself and what it would mean for her thematically).

I honestly think the Joyce-Jonathan relationship tangentially aligned with Jancy is going to be of critical importance in setting Jonathan free from his nightmare cycle. I agree with all you have listed here and instead of typing out all my long-winded thoughts, I have complied a set that I believe makes the same argument:

#jancy #jonathan byers #joyce byers #I'm and staring at the duffers begging them for this to have payoff #when i say this is the most important thing to me in stranger things 5... i mean it! #let jonathan talk to his mom!!!!!!!!!!

[henrysglock]

be so, so serious…

does anyone want to tell me why the supposed one-way mirror is reflecting on the transparent side…when we’ve just established that they edit the mirrors even in background shots where people likely wouldn’t notice a difference…

#staring directly at it #😐😐😐 #duffers quit it challenge!!! #hnl massacre #stranger things

[transmascwillbyers]

Honestly, for me the biggest piece of byler proof will always be the fact that the duffers never had to write their story this way. Like, forget everything in the lighting and the cinematography for a second and just think about the fact that the Duffers never had to make any of the narrative choices that they did in s4. They've proved with other characters and couples that they can write redemption arcs well, and that if they wanted to make midleven's arc better, they could. They could have made the conscious decision to put effort into making midleven a good, healthy couple, and use s4 to build them towards a satisfying finale- but what did they use s4 for? Oh, yeah, an entire gay cross-country road trip plotline that only made the existence of byler and the cracks in Mike and El's relationship even more obvious. Like, it would be one thing to try and fix their issues and doing it in a bad, forced way, but this wasn't that. This was the duffers deliberately undermining Mike and El's relationship all while building up byler in a series of narrative choices that seems so deliberate it's impossible for them to just be that bad at their jobs. Everything about it seems so perfect that I just can't believe the duffers didn't plan it. The number one symptom of bad writing is that it doesn't make sense, that things just feel like they were thrown in and tacked onto the story for no reason, but this doesn't just feel like bad writing because everything about it is perfectly planned. The duffers could have stopped it if they wanted to, but they kept going, and now all we can do is wait for s5 endgame.

#byler #byler is real #like before s4 i thought byler was cute but i wouldn't have minded if it wasn't endgame #because i knew the duffers could fix midleven if they wanted to #but during s4 it was like the entire writer's room just stared down heterosexuality in the eyes #and went 'nope' every single freaking time #and now there's no excuse besides endgame or queerbaiting #one of which is suboptimal so here we are! #anyway i know this was rambly but i have thoughts

[lighthouseas]

these three tracks killed my grandma

#WHY ARE THEY SO SIMILAR I NEED TO DIE......... #but also. bangers. all of them #i hate mlvn but some of the tracks associated with them are DAMN BANGERS wtf #you're the heart the first i love you the return etc etc. #but like. all of these can be interpreted in different ways and that is why i adore staring at the soundtrack like 🥰🥰 #fuck simping for the duffers let me get some of that kyle dixon and michael steinus- #<- joke. JOKE. #anyway #stranger things #st soundtrack #st.txt #Spotify

[chirpsythismorning]

Honestly not sure how milkvans recovered from this

#byler #duffers: #Finn… #im gonna need you to stare a hole into Will while he is not looking #im also gonna need you to look relieved and happy upon finding out Will’s painting that was supposedly for a girl he likes #was actually for you #then upon finding out it was actually commissioned by your gf #look disssapointed…

[blueberri3s]

that interview where finn talked about the mileven love confession scene just took me backwards again,, i’m convinced that the duffers are simply just not as great as i thought and that they simply just ruined Mike‘s character for no reason, passed on the chance of making El strong on her own and not depend on her boyfriend, and decided to just let Will suffer even more.

#i’m literally so confused #why the hints bitch?? why the loving stares? why the weird chemistry with mileven?? #sorry duffers i love u but what are u planning on doing i’m- #we are not delusional #anyone who DOESNT see it is just blind because huh?? #i’m sorry for the rant but the duffers make me MAD mad with all the back and forth #so done #stranger things #st4 #byler

[bongcupcakes]

#*stares at the duffers* #no bc mike could either be the best written character of all time or the worst depending on whether or not he’s gay #fanfic writers ily <3333 #doing gods work #byler #mike wheeler i know what you are #putting all my trust into 2 white guys #mike wheeler #will byers

[gladiodaddyo2]

I need to pick the duffer brothers brains. What did they intend for Mike to do with Will in that room before they got interrupted.

#duffers bros im in ur walls #im in ur lights #IM IN UR PILLOWS #WHAT WAS THE REASON??!? #byler #st #This absolutely is NOT meant in a creepy way #but when u consider the way the conversation was going b/t them…. #and the STARING #AND THE GULPING #pls my brain is exploding