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#Paraphilias
parasol-objectum 11 months
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Reminder, no paraphilias are harmful to have! There's only some that would be harmful to act upon but having them does not make you bad :3
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neuroticboyfriend 7 months
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little reminder that minor attracted people aren't inherently predators and people with pedophilic intrusive thoughts aren't morally superior to actual MAPs... because your actions and values determine your morality, not thoughts/feelings you can't control.
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fictionfreedom 7 months
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Listen ya'll, some people wanna act like you have to be a certain age to be a paraphile but man I've been attracted to animals since I was a kid. Like, I barely even knew what a pedophile was at that age much less a zoophile, but there I was with feelings toward my cat (She is still with us today btw!) And you want to know something super shocking? Even as a child, I didn't act on my feelings in any harmful way. Sure, I would be a bit more clingy towards the animals and a lot more okay with getting puppy kisses and love bites from the dogs and cats, but I never did anything to hurt them. I say this all to say, paraphiles are NOT deranged, rabid, (unless they want to be) or incapable of control over themselves, they are humans (or not, if you prefer another term besides human) all the same, and your constant assumptions that paraphiles "Can't control themselves" are going to end up turning the same way it did with people saying that men "can't control themselves" in response to their crimes. We can control ourselves, we are not immediately criminals because of our feelings or thoughts, and no paraphile deserves to be mocked or criminalized for things they can't truly control or didn't even do. So, no, that pedophile you attacked for talking about their feelings (even if in an inappropriate way) who never actually did a single thing to any children (or anything by proxy), and may have even just gotten used to their feelings that they probably felt horribly ashamed of before? Not a criminal, and did not deserve to be treated as such. That zoophile you doxxed and harassed because they mentioned they happened to have a pet, and after everything publicly says that they never once did anything to their pet (because shocker, they aren't incapable of self-control)? Not a criminal, and is probably telling the truth, and in this situation, you would be the criminal by all reasoning. And these below are less about legality and more about the fact even "gross" paraphilias deserve kind treatment You know, like Coprophilia? Because last I checked, they get mocked no matter what community they are in, because if they are in the para community they get mocked for it being gross, and about the same thing happens in the kink/BDSM community except they might just mainly be mocked/bullied (or harassed) for using a paraphilia label instead of just saying they have a kink. I'ma leave this off here though, and just say point blank: Stop harassing paraphiles, I don't care what the paraphilia is, unless you have point-blank proof that they've actually done something bad/illegal (I personally could care less if they did something "bad", if it isn't illegal/harmful idgaf)
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hc-did-culture-is 4 months
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TW brief talk about paraphilias / abuse
HC-DID Culture is "am I a (insert paraphilic disorder here) or is it because I was forced to participate in fucked up scenarios and my brain is trying to process it?"
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shrimpmandan 1 year
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don鈥檛 answer if ur not comfortable but how do u differentiate truly having a harmful paraphilia from intrusive thoughts abt it? im someone who has intrusive thoughts abt 2 out of the big 3 as well as other sexual things that can鈥檛 be done morally and i often stress that that means i am a paraphile (ik that鈥檚 a broad term but i don鈥檛 like specifying which ones yknow).
to my understanding, non offending big 3 paraphiles experience with their attraction seems similar to intrusive thoughts because they cause distress and such, so i guess im wondering abt where the distinction lies? i also find the psychological aspects of sex and sexuality interesting in their own right so beyond my own concern i鈥檇 be interested to learn cuz it鈥檚 just really fascinating
thanks dude!! :)
No worries at all anon! This is a HUGE SpIn of mine and I'm always happy to provide any perspective, even if I'm not a professional and all that.
The biggest distinguishing factor between an intrusive thought and a regular thought is if it's voluntary, and if the thought is welcomed or wanted. Intrusive thoughts are out of your control and often incite feelings of revulsion, disgust, discomfort, fear, anxiety, or rejection. They are thoughts that you want OUT of your brain as soon as possible. When you talk about paraphilias, the waters can muddy a little.
Paraphilias do not necessitate that the thoughts are unwanted. This may be true of paraphilic disorders, wherein the patient experiences clinically significant distress over their paraphilia (this doesn't necessarily refer to one of the big three!), but it's not inherent. A lot of paraphilic fantasy rejection can come from internalized shame due to outside social stigma and personal morality... but so can intrusive thoughts. There's no clear cut distinction between the two due to how much influence society has over our thoughts and how we respond to them, HOWEVER, you may want to consider looking into something like POCD.
POCD, while not an officially recognized diagnosis, is a subset of OCD that specifically centers around pedophilia. There exists also ZOCD (zoophilia OCD) and NOCD (necrophilia OCD), however POCD is by far the most well-researched out of these. POCD involves obsessive and/or compulsive behaviors regarding proving or disproving if one is a pedophile, such as through intentionally exposing themselves to distressing imagery on purpose or engaging with intrusive thoughts related to children. More often than not, people with POCD don't end up having any paraphilic attractions at all-- they are worried about the concept of being a pedophile and if they'll enact tangible harm, not grappling with actual attraction.
I've struggled with POCD for some time now, but I'm fairly confident in that I don't have any attraction to IRL children. The extent to which I'll engage with my thoughts is in fiction, and even then, it's more of a curiosity as opposed to something that's a consistent turn-on-- which is in direct contrast to my other paraphilias which are much stronger and carry with them less internalized shame, and more externalized fear over being harassed, abandoned, and/or doxxed. I don't experience fear over IF I'll offend, because I'm confident that I won't under my own circumstances. But this is something that can vary from person to person.
Some potentially helpful further reading:
r/OCD also may be potentially helpful! Plenty of people on there have talked about experiencing zoophilic, necrophilic, or pedophilic OCD. Just type one of those words into the search bar and you'll probably find someone who's going through the same thing.
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corrupthound 7 months
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Lust Murder I, 1922 [x] by Otto Dix
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kalimaribro 1 year
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The time I bled in my biology class 鈾ワ笍
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parasol-objectum 7 months
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seeing anti-para objectums is so sad/frustrating to me. Like, the romantic/sexual attraction to objects is a paraphilia and there is heavy overlap between objectophilia and objectum even if you choose to use a different label..
I get people being uncomfortable with harmful to act upon paraphilia havers interacting with you, and that's perfectly fine! People react to trauma in different ways (whether that's developing a harmful to act on paraphilia, or being repulsed by certain paraphilias) and people deserve their safe spaces on their own blogs. But the blatant hatered and shittalking of paraphiles who have attractions just as uncontrollable as yours in the objectum community is saddening.
We don't even have any of the big 3 paraphilias, we just feel they don't deserve they hate they get for something they cannot control. As long as they are not harming anyone by acting on those paraphilias they are doing nothing wrong.
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neuroticboyfriend 7 months
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Hey i am begging you to reword your newest post bc i totally get that having intrusive thoughts doesn't make you a pedophile but the way you phrased it makes it sound like you're glorifying pedos and i don't think you're trying to do that
my guy. i am not glorifying anyone. the post is about humanizing minor attracted people. they are literally just people. like you and me and your friends and your family and any stranger you meet. like any other neurodivergent person. they are judged unjustly.
i will not apologize for that or re-word the post. i said exactly what i meant to say, and the fact you think humanizing a group of people who have done nothing but think and feel things they cannot control, things that say nothing about their values or actions, is incredibly sad. minor attracted people are not monsters, or inherently abusers. no paraphile is. come back to me when you learn to separate attraction from action and morality.
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fictionfreedom 8 months
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Positivity
To all of the big 3 paraphiles Your attractions are not hurting anyone You are indeed doing a good job holding back on your attractions, You may not be a rabid animal, but I know it can still be painful to have those attractions You are not a horrible person just for your attractions, you haven't done anything to anyone regardless of any thoughts or feelings you've had Any of your non-self-harmful coping mechanisms are good, and don't let anyone tell you any different You do NOT deserve to be harmed over your attractions, if you haven't hurt anyone then you HAVE NOT hurt anyone, your attractions and thoughts are not harmful If you are in therapy or anything similar for your attractions, you are doing a great job and I'm proud of you for trying your best If you have a paraphilic disorder, that is not your fault, and you are doing a great job ESPECIALLY if you're in therapy and trying your damn hardest to get better. Even if you aren't in therapy and you aren't trying overly hard to get better, you are still a good person and I am still proud of you
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dada-dandy 9 months
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Pascal Curious is a teratophile and Vidcund Curious is a dendrophile look it up
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kienansidhe 2 years
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narcissists are not inherently abusers, to say otherwise is to absolve individual abusers of responsibility for their abusive behavior. just like writing off all men as abusers renders it pointless to expect them to change, as assuming all paraphiliacs are engaging in abuse, writing off all narcissists as abusers does the same.
in addition bc of the massive stigma against personality disorders, it contributes to the dehumanization of narcissists in general, many of whom do not abuse and often feel unable to disclose that they are narcissists out of fear, fear that people will see the label as a red flag rather than the action of trust and vulnerability that it truly is. there are more people out there of these demographics than you think, you probably know some who are simply too afraid to talk about it.
no one is inherently destined to abuse because of their background, psychology, gender, or anything else. if someone abuses, it is because they choose to engage in abusive behavior, and that should be taken seriously enough not to throw entire demographics under the bus in an attempt to emphasize their actions.
its okay to be cautious of types of people who resemble your abusers! you are allowed to set personal boundaries. but please do not spread harmful rhetoric branding those demographics as evil, monstrous, inherently abusive. call attention to the behaviors, the choices made. this is both more effective in helping people avoid being trapped in abusive situations, and is also more helpful by teaching people who may not be aware of their own abusive behavior. it reaches people who believe themselves exempt, who may say "i am not a narcissist/man/paraphiliac/etc, therefore i could not abuse."
hold abusers accountable for their abuse, not their internal or external circumstances.
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shrimpmandan 8 months
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Something super interesting to me while doing paraphilia research: zoophilia and necrophilia both have identified, categorized subtypes. As far as I'm aware, pedophilia does not. The only thing that comes up when I search "subtypes/categories of pedophilia" is lists of other, similar chronophilias (such as hebephilia and ephebophilia).
For those not in the know, there's a few distinct categories of both necrophilia and zoophilia. Anil Aggrawal proposed these subtypes in 2011, but never wrote one for pedophilia (again, to my knowledge).
A new classification of necrophilia
A new classifcation of zoophilia
It's really interesting/odd to me that there's (to my knowledge) no classifications of this nature for pedophilia. You probably already noticed the fact that much of the classification between necrophiles and zoophiles are the same, so it's safe to assume pedophilia would have a similar model of roleplayers, fantasizers, opportunistic, regular, exclusive, and so on.
It could be due to the fact that any 'type' of pedophilia could be considered a potential safety concern (and generally speaking there's understandably way more concern with damage prevention with pedophilia compared to even zoo and necrophilia), and so there's less interest in trying to identify differences in dangerous vs. 'not dangerous' subtypes. I'm sure that they exist, but seeing as most pedophilia research is done in a forensic context where they've already committed a crime, there's really not a whole lotta data out there. Even zoophiles and necrophiles are far more likely to discuss their attractions online, and there's plenty of online forums dedicated to both that aren't even all that difficult to find.
(Also if me listing off classifications gave anyone an unfortunate awakening, um... I'm sorry lmao)
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