#Riverdale season 6 speculation

[raymondebidochonlifechoices]

If Toffee wasn’t in Heaven because she’s the Harlot-of-Babylon’s sinner pet, does this mean there is a giant three-headed Toffee in Hell?

#tagging this as: #Riverdale season 6 speculation #because I can!

[izzysamosriverdale]

Riverdale Guardian Angel Tabitha

Tabitha, Honey, you've been in Riverdale for two minutes - and you're "Riverdale's Guardian Angel"? Wut? I could buy Pop Tate being Riverdale's guardian angel, but not Tabitha. Sorry.

#anti T*bitha T*te #i guess #riverdale #anti j*bitha #maybe #pop tate #anti jabitha #perhaps #bughead #jughead #jughead jones #riverdale writers negativity #riverdale speculation #riverdale spoilers #riverdale season 6 #riverdale season six #riverdale time jump #anti tabitha tate

[passionate2020]

If #Bughead don’t at the very least kiss in the final episode of season 6 I’m out for good. Just the thought of putting up with another lousy season like the last 2 is headache inducing.

I’d prefer it if “the end of the world” is what ends up being the thing that lights a fire under Betty and Jughead to finally get their shit together… before throwing ethics, morals and caution to the wind (cause it’s “the end of the world”) and have one last passionate night together before the towns impending doom… which we ALL KNOW will be saved by something or someone. Except for Archie, ofcourse.. never Archie.

#bughead #riverdale season 6 #riverdale #riverdale negativity #betty and jughead #riverdale speculation #betty x jughead

[shurawerewolf]

Ok.

I'll risk my neck and ask.

What's exactly the deal with this whole bi Betty stuff?

I mean...

What's the purpose of that? The only logical explanation I could come up with is "they wanted to ride the Lili's bisexuality train" and exploit the performative activism of people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for representation. And I get the "the more the merrier" philosophy, but I don't feel like Riverdale was in need of another lgbtq+ character. Like...

Straight characters? Check.

Gay character? Check.

Lesbian character? Check.

Bi characters? Check.

(Speculations of Jughead being demisexual so that's an half check too.)

Now, one could say "that's done to create a beef between A and B and break them" and I'm like... couldn't they break them simply by making them realize they don't fit together like they did the other 457854 times already. Or have them break up over their different views of life and marriage and having kids? They literally wrote the pregnancy storyline for that. It was right there to be used.

I know this could all still be a huge bait and nothing happen, but still... all this seems a bit weird to be

(And before you'll come for my neck, I'll let you know that I'm in very happy relationship with a bi girl, so spare me the homophobic accusations, cause I'll wipe my ass with them after I took a good shit)

#riverdale #betty cooper #anti b*rchie #bi betty #riverdale speculations #riverdale season 6

[shiploverr]

So after watching Riverdale again, I wrote down everything that was important, or rather, what I thought was important.

See below:

- When Tabitha and Jughead went through the portal and spoke with Bunker Jug. He told them that he had to stay in the bunker and forever write so that Rivervale can continue to exist. (So that means Bunker Jughead is NOT writing Riverdale. He is writing Rivervale. We know bunker Jug isn’t responsible for narrator Jug’s actions/drawings because N!Jug has existed since 6x01. Writer Jug appeared in 6x05)

- Narrator Jug is at pops where he draws Comics which is influencing Riverdale. (That’s exactly what Dale Jug said while talking to Tabitha and Narrator Jug).

- Narrator Jug made a deal with Cypher (the devil) that he wanted to become the Best comic book creator but in return he had to make his comics dark & grim. (So that’s saying everything happening in Dale is because of N! Jug.)

- Percival is the person who RAS said would cross over from Vale to Dale. As he was trying to return to Vale, he heard and explosion and that’s when he entered Dale. His magic powers seeped through as he entered the town.

- We also learned from Cypher that Pop’s isn’t where the final battle will take place. In reality, it’s the land pops was built on. So that’s why Percival wants to build the train so that he can bring his soldiers from Vale. So in the end, Good (Riverdale Core 4 and the others) Vs. Evil (Percival and his Soldiers both dead and alive from Rivervale).

- Lastly, at the end we learned that bunker Jug called Dale Betty to warn her about the bomb under the bed. His love for Betty couldn’t allow her to die even if she was with Archie and possibly allowing Vale and Dale to bleed into each other. If he wouldn’t have called and warned her, they would have blown up and maybe Percival would have never crossed over which also means, they would have never had supernatural powers.

So that’s most of the details I got from 6x20. Writing down things being said scene by scene. Who is the Dale Jug we been seeing since 6x06 to present? My theory is that he is a version of Narrator Jug. I could be mistaken, but that’s exactly how I see it. He said to bunker Jug “like a living battery” just like Narrator told Writer Jug in 6x05.

#riverdale speculation #riverdale spoilers #Rivervale theory #idk man #can we end season 6 already?

[arsenicpanda]

I wanted to wait until the finale aired to answer this, and also I’m screenshotting so I can avoid the search, and I’m only tagging this with my tumblr savior tags so anon can see this even if they have the jt ship tag blocked. Also, I am a multishipper, I ship bh and jt and bjt and bt, and my desires for canon are based more on what I think works within the story we currently have as well as what treats Tabitha well and avoids racist tropes.

Now then, I do think bhva have a chance of coming back because I don’t think anything is set on this show until the last episode is over, and there are a number of ways this could play out for each pair.

Let’s talk ba first, because how ba goes is tied to va and bh in some capacity

1.) The ba engagement is an indication of endgame and s7 will be Riverdale playing with ba and va, likely with ba as first love but in some way tangled up with va.

2.) The above is true, but the “tangled up with va” leads to an ot3 and not ba alone.

3.) Someone on twitter said that no couple that gets engaged in the penultimate season ends up together, and I think that’s a fair point, although idk if I’ve watched enough live action American tv shows to say one way or the other. In this situation, ba don’t end up together, and however they play with ba and va ends in va, Betty/Veronica, or some other combo of the characters being single and in various relationships (Betty/Reggie, anyone?).  In this scenario, I would especially keep an eye on the possibility of Betty/Veronica.

Now let’s talk jt and bh, and keep in mind that Jughead remembers his previous life and Tabitha is somewhere that creates an “echo” of the fact that she wasn’t in the high school seasons

A.) Jughead’s feelings for Tabitha and the vision of their future together are either the primary or two of the primary drives for Jughead to find her and/or a way home to regular Riverdale, and yadda yadda yadda they end up together. This is compatible with scenarios 1, 2, and 3.

B.) The vision of Jughead and Tabitha’s future together is more of a goodbye to the ship in the narrative than something to fight for.  The ba/va stuff is happening ala scenario 3, and also Jughead and Betty investigate or whatever and fall in love again.  I have no idea what happens to Tabitha or Jughead’s feelings for Tabitha here.

Any combo of 1-3 & A and 3 & B is possible, and I’m not confident enough in my ability to predict Riverdale to say one way or the other.  Like, I think the only things I’ve gotten right are “Jughead and Tabitha will definitely date at some point in s5 for an unknown period of time” (made after 5x11 aired), “Jughead and Tabitha will still be romantically tied at the end of s6” (made after 6x12 aired), and “Jughead will get his hearing back before s6 ends” (made after we learned he would have hearing loss).  And, like, getting only three predictions right over four and a half seasons, one of which is based only on lack of confidence in the writers more than the actual writing, is a pretty bad track record, and you’ll notice that the two that aren’t based on writer incompetence/fuckery were made halfway through the season.  I’ll probably have a more confident answer for you then, but that’s at least like nine or ten months from now, and even then I doubt I’ll be *certain* because certainty and I don’t often exist in the same space.

I will say, though, that I’m not quite sure how people experiencing being teenagers again but with possibly tweaked backstories and having relationships there will affect their decisions as adults with their original backstories–because I assume we’re going back to the real world in the end, although I could be wrong there because of my less-than-stellar track record. I’m rooting for a change in the ba/va situation though, except for the ot3 option, I can’t handle that in a ship that has such harem anime vibes, like I can’t do it, I’m not strong enough, it repels me.

Anyway, I think scenario B is less likely than A, just because Jughead *does* remember his relationship with Tabitha and the future he saw, and it would be weird and kind of dickish for him to just give up on her and it and move on to his ex who currently thinks she’s a teenager, especially if it’s while he’s fighting to get back to regular Riverdale.  Bh would have a *much* better chance if Jughead didn’t have his memory either.  But Betty does have that James Dean poster, who is more visually similar to Jughead than Archie, and they do have *so much* history, so I’m not going to count them out.

But also I don’t see a way to have Jughead move on from his feelings for Tabitha and instead fall for a version of Betty without making him look like an asshole, unless he’s given up on both finding her in this time *and* getting home to her after like at least a year of trying, which, if you’re gonna do that, why have him remember in the first place?  And also, Betty thinks she’s a teen and is presumably different from real life Betty, both adult and teen, while Jughead is the same and thinks he’s an adult, and I just think that romance would be weird; like, it wouldn’t be inappropriate or gross, I’m not saying that, but I do think it would be, like, a weird thing for Jughead to do. Anyway, I especially don’t see a good way of doing this without it being deeply unfair to Tabitha outside of killing her, and RAS has indicated that she will still be in the show, so that’s off the table.  In my opinion, it’s important to ensure that Tabitha is treated fairly, just as it’s important to make sure that Veronica is treated fairly and not just given the bullshit racist “yeah, she wants love, but she should just be a #girlboss who doesn’t need a man!” ending and just as it’s important for Betty to not succumb to suburbia and/or even slightly turn into either of her parents (unless we’re going for a Bad End, but that would be extremely depressing).  But, like, right now they’re doing the opposite of both of the latter, so who knows about the former.

If I *have* to make a guess based on the information we have now, I’ll guess Cheryl/Toni, Kevin/Moose, and to a lesser extent Jughead/Tabitha endgame, but I am still unable to guess what would happen with ba/va, but I do assume that there will be at least bait/crumbs for bh in a few episodes.  But the only one I’m 99.999% certain of is Cheryl/Toni because of the whole fated soulmates across time thing, although I’m at like 70% on Kevin/Moose just because RAS seems to truly love that one and has loved it since day 1.  Jughead/Tabitha is at, like, 35-45% confidence tops

Now I’m gonna throw this over to @elegant-force for her thoughts, printed here because it’s easiest, because she’s less biased than I am:

So, frankly, I’m not super confident in my predictions here. Just going to start off with that. I used to think I understood the general character of the writers’ room for Riverdale, but that hasn’t been true since about Season 4. I don’t have much insight into how their decision-making process works at this point or what values/ideals/principles they have as guiding lights for the show/narratives/characterizations. 

I used to think that the show was purposefully really thoughtful about picking relationships and committing to them so that it could save time for the plot and for other characterization arcs, rather than wasting time on predictable garbage you could find on any tired daytime soap opera. But that’s definitely not what we’re doing at this stage. 

Frankly, my opinion is that the writers saw that fans were invested in the ships, and decided that because of this, messing with them would be an easier way to keep fans “on the hook” than writing a story that people actually could engage with. Instead of caring about the crafting of good relationships or interesting narratives, they seem to have become about “The bas vs. The bhs” or “The vas vs. the bas” or the “How are the Cheryl/Tonis going to feel about X?” 

And I think it’s all incredibly manipulative and, frankly, outrageously sexist. I’ve never seen a show or other work of media purposefully play with and manipulate (both in the narrative and on social media) something that fans were so invested in regarding a work that was targeted primarily at men. I’ve never seen Marvel be like “Maybe next time we’ll decide that Captain America has laser vision and Iron Man is a sorcerer… not like just for a fun lark, but like for real, this is who they are now in the comics, forget all of the time you spent learning about and talking about their powers with other nerds” because if they did that sort of shit, people would be really mad at them and feel like their narrative expectations were betrayed. And it just feels disrespectful to fans to do that sort of thing. But for some reason, when it’s women and the things that they are invested in are relationships you’ve put work into over the course of the show, blowing them up with little to no explanation and using them to manipulate viewership is just normal. 

And I’m sort of annoyed that everyone is buying into it to this degree. It frankly seems like every fucking comment from the writers about a ship is meant to be a tease to keep us on the hook and it’s fucking rude. It’s been a huge turn-off for me in terms of investment because the manipulation is so obvious and sloppy.

But you asked for my predictions and here they are. 

I’ve listed some of the current couples that were asked about as well as some other options I think are likely: 

1.) Betty/Archie

So, I have to wonder why, if we wanted to do this as endgame, we were going to have another season of messing around with the triangle stuff. We got here, they were going to get married, then we all got hit with the Retcomet. Essentially, our relationships were retconned, so either this is about us fighting our way back to our “perfect endings” or we’re going to redo some stuff. 

I don’t think that Betty had a perfect ending to fight her way back to. I think the only person in that category is Jughead (and notably, he remembers his old future). She basically had decided that the job she’d wanted her entire life wasn’t worth it and that she just wanted to be a wife or whatever after graduating top of her class at Yale. It doesn’t make a ton of sense to me that she’d throw everything she’d worked for her entire life in the garbage and that the audience was supposed to think that was good.

I also think that Polly having to wash her “sins” off of her rather than her accepting herself and being loved for who she is darkness included was so fucking gross. Like Betty needed to accept herself and also feel as if Archie accepted her without her former cultist sister doing some weird fake religious bullshit on her to trick her into doing it (this is so what happened, just because Polly was dead for a little bit doesn’t mean she can purify people, she was pulling old cultist tricks out of her pocket and we all know it). Betty only saw herself as a threat because she thought she was one. Polly tricked her out of it. Simple as that.

I honestly think we may come to find out that the reason Jughead remembers and the others don’t is that on some level, the others wanted to forget because they were unhappy with where they were. If Cheryl using the combined powers of all of the others really did, as Jughead implies, send them back due to some sort of manifestation of their wills, then it makes sense to me that part of what Veronica may have absorbed was their collective discontent with their situations and this reset is all of them trying to go back and change the things they did wrong. Especially if this is the case, I don’t see a lot of hope for Betty/Archie endgame. Even if that’s not the reason Jughead remembers when no one else does (if it’s just his writer powers or whatever), I still think resetting and then doing the thing we’re doing now with them doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think it’s possible that we go back and forth and eventually land on this if the bas scream loud enough online, though. I do think online screaming is the main thing determining what the show does. 

Probability: 10-20% 

2.) Betty/Veronica 

This is what I think is the best narrative option if we want to really wipe the slate clean with whatever is happening in S7 1955 land. I think that if the show really doesn’t want to play the traditional Betty/Archie/Veronica love triangle, they can lean into Betty and Veronica’s relationship and build that up. We’ve already introduced the concept of Betty being bisexual with her relationship with Agent Drake and we also had Cheryl and Veronica’s super hot (and very long) kiss at the end of S6. So, I think if we really wanted to go this way, we could. 

I think it’s a great answer to them both wanting to be in a relationship with someone they love and care about and know. And I also think, at this point, Archie is irredeemably awful.  He asked his ex that he broke up with less than a year ago to help him pick a ring for his new girlfriend. He sucks. He just fucking sucks. It’s gross beyond my ability to describe. 

But on that point, Veronica has shown true and unconditional love for Betty. She’s never held the cheating against Betty. When Archie asked her for a ring, she already had one that she thought would be perfect for Betty. She has been there for Betty whenever Betty has needed her. And while, prior to S6, Betty hadn’t always reciprocated, I think that her coming up with the idea for Veronica to kiss Archie and letting her do that was proof that Betty is also willing to take risks and make sacrifices for Veronica as well. I don’t think it was easy for her to do that, because she’s always been insecure about Archie and Veronica, but she did it because she loves Veronica enough to overcome those insecurities. I can’t say that about her feelings for Archie, or maybe even the feelings she had for Jughead. I think that Veronica has done more to help Betty deal with and overcome her insecurities than anyone else in the show. I wish that we could see Betty support and help Veronica more, and I really hope that regardless of what the show decides to do, we do more of that in the final season. 

Probability: 10-20% 

I don’t think that we’re going to do this, just because the show really seems to think that Archie is a good person who deserves love. I disagree with this, but I’m not in the writers’ room. I think he should end up single and alone due to his inability to treat women with any sort of respect. But that’s just me. I think that if the show still cares about crafting a good narrative or things having any sort of thematic resonance or meaning, this is what they’ll do. But I just don’t think it’s likely. 

3.) Betty/Archie/Veronica 

I like this option way less, but I think it’s fairly likely. It’s another reason we could have set up Betty and Veronica being bi, and I think it’s what the show would like to do. And the reason I think it’s what the show would like to do is that the writers, like Archie, can’t choose between Betty/Archie and Veronica/Archie. And I think the writers can’t choose because they have gotten so into playing with the shippers that they can no longer think of a way to make a satisfying ending where Archie ends up with one of these women. 

So, what’s the best solution? To not have to choose, of course. And then they get “points” for being “daring” and “innovative” to have a thruple as the main relationship in their show. They’ll think it will make the fewest people upset and that it will get them a lot of social media attention. And I think that’s honestly all they want: attention that isn’t mostly negative. Maybe that’s deeply cynical of me, but it’s the main common factor I’ve seen in their decision making at this point. 

I do think this could be done well, but I don’t think they will do it that way. I think it really only works if the triangle changes to be a full love triangle (ie: with each person being attracted to both other people in the triangle) and if the thruple puts Veronica mostly in the center. I think we still have to spend most of the season focused on the relationship between Betty and Veronica. I think we also have to embrace the part of Betty that seems to really not want a traditional family or maternal role, but maybe just wants to live with people she is comfortable with and attracted to that she can have sex with. I think that if the end dynamic has househusband/primary caregiver Archie taking care of kids that he and Veronica had together and Betty is part of it but doesn’t have to engage with the domestic things she dislikes, that’s fine. 

What isn’t okay is for this to become an Archie-centric triangle that functions as a mini-harem for him. It can’t just be Archie now sleeps with two women and sometimes watches them have sex because he’s just such a great guy he deserved this because for a white guy not choosing means eventually getting everything you want. That’s fucking gross, but I’m afraid they’ll be careless about it and that’s what will happen. 

Probability: 30-40% 

4.) Veronica/Archie

I think this is slightly more likely than Betty/Archie if Jughead has kept his memories because he’s the only one who doesn’t have regrets. I think it’s possible that Archie still wants to be with Veronica and we know Veronica still wants to be with Archie. She’s only not going for it because she loves Betty more than she wants to be with Archie. I think that in a reset where it’s clear Betty has another path to happiness, Veronica/Archie has a chance. 

Probability: 30-40% 

5.) Betty/Jughead

Honestly, I think this really hinges on why Jughead kept his memories. If it’s because he doesn’t have regrets and wants to get back to the future he saw with Tabitha, then there’s no way that bh is going to happen. I think, at best, what bh gets in this setting is a chance to end cleanly and in a way that both of them move on from that’s healthy. And, frankly, I think there could be a lot of good in that. I think the writers could give this ship the respect it deserves and acknowledge what it meant to both Betty and Jughead, without them having to get back together. I think we could have them date briefly or just spend time together as friends and acknowledge what could have been in a way that isn’t just shitting all over this pairing and/or teasing it with no real hope of follow-through just to keep the shippers on the hook. And I think that would be really nice. 

I think that if Jughead kept his memories as a fluke/due to his writer powers, then I guess we could go back to bh. I think you really have to come up with a good reason that we’re not going to have him try to get back to Tabitha though. Also, I think that the writers know if they throw his relationship with Tabitha in the garbage at this point, it’s just super fucking racist. And they don’t want people to accuse them of being racist on the internet (especially when the accusations are credible), so they probably won’t do it. 

Probability: 10-20%  

(If Jughead didn’t have his memories, I would have put the odds of this ship at 60-80%, frankly. If he didn’t remember Tabitha, I would have seen the time-compressed date as a good final send-off for Jughead/Tabitha, proof that they could have had a beautiful life together but we weren’t able to do that because of the comet coming and tearing us apart and destroying all of the memories that we built together. It would have been sort of rude to Tabitha, but I would have definitely accepted it as a perfectly good ending for the ship and felt like it was done justice. But I just can’t see a good reason for Jughead to keep his memories if the point isn’t for him to try to get back to Tabitha somehow.)

6.) Jughead/Tabitha 

We really invested in them over the last few seasons. I think that if we wanted to break them up, we would have just had Jughead lose his memories as well. There’s no real reason for him to have kept them, certainly no reason he had to that I can see from a writing perspective, unless it was to preserve his relationship with Tabitha (because that didn’t exist in high school).

I do think it’s really hard for them not to follow through on Jughead/Tabitha without looking really racist, frankly. And I think the writers care about that. And I think they should. I also think them backing out at this point is straight up bad writing, even if it’s to go back to bh. I think the window on going back to bh closed a while ago, and now we’re just shipbaiting the fans. I think jt has a good chance to be endgame, though I don’t know how much of it we’ll be seeing during this season, because I don’t know what Tabitha’s exact situation is. 

Probability: 50-70%

7.) Moose/Kevin 

I really used to hate this ship. A lot. I was really sad when Joaquin died because I knew in my heart it meant that RAS was never going to let go of Moose/Kevin. I never really trusted Kevin/Fangs because every time RAS has had the opportunity to go back to Moose/Kevin, he has done so as quickly as he fucking can. He’s really invested in this, so I just think we’re going to get it as long as Moose’s actor is willing to be here. 

Though, honestly, I’ve come to like this ship a lot more in the last season. Every other ship is so garbage (except jt, which is cute) that they’re actually fine and even endearing now. Moose is also less toxic, which is good, and he’s really supportive of Kevin. And heaven knows that boy needs all the support he can get. 

Probability: 70-90% 

8.) Cheryl/Toni Dude. Cheryl’s best childhood lesbian friend broke up with Cheryl because she saw their love written in the stars. There’s not much more of a guarantee than that. 

Also their fans have been as loud as possible about the fact that their ship has been done so dirty in so many ways, and frankly, they were right to say it. The writers seem to know they done fucked up in splitting these two up for so long. Really looking forward to seeing them as 50s lesbians. 

Probability: 99% (because there’s no such thing as certainty with these motherfuckers) 

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[iarasstuffss]

I have a theory going around for the season finale... hope it makes sense lol.

If we are trapped in between parallel universes, that means that while we are in this version of Riverdale the "Real Riverdale" is coexisting but we don't know for sure what is going on in there.

So what if the gang defeats Percival and we go back to the normal Riverdale but not to the moment we left (5x17 with Archie Trapped in the mines and Cheryl's course) but to what's currently happening.

What happened to the characters while we were in this new version of Riverdale?

That's the mystery we get to unfold in the season finale.

Which ships will be together? Maybe none of them, maybe bughead choni and varchie, maybe barchie, veggie and tangs, who knows?

But it sets the theme for the next and final season.

#riverdale speculations #it would be great #but those writers aren't that smart #also that leaves the road open to all of the ships #riverdale #riverdale season 6 #riverdale season 7

[ourladyofmaplemurder]

And the award for "Worst Mother in Riverdale" goes to...

I've already spoken before on the similarities between Betty and Cheryl. Their murderous fathers. Their superhuman abilities within the narrative. Their dead siblings.

But today I want to talk about their mothers.

Alice Cooper (Smith) & Penelope Blossom

There are quite a few similarities between Alice and Penelope. (Certainly plenty of sexual tension as well.)

They're both controlling and abusive with their daughters. Over and over they torture their daughters with expectations and cruel lies.

In the end though, only one daughter come out on top.

Sure, Penelope Blossom is a homophobic serial killer with a penchant for poison, but Alice is truly the greater monster, I feel.

Penelope is all aggression and thus, Cheryl is able to respond in kind.

Fuck you, mom! Go live in the barn.

By the time we reach the end of the original timeline, Cheryl is independent of her mother. She proves that she is not taking her shit and, because of this, they're able to have a moment of genuine connection before Penelope goes off to the OG Sisters of Quiet Mercy in the Himalayas.

(Though, the veracity of this is in question considering Penelope doesn't do the sign of the cross properly, but that's speculation for another day.)

Alice, on the other hand, is much more insidious. She exerts her control on Betty, but as soon as Betty bites back, Alice plays the victim. She cries. She makes Betty out to be the villain...and Betty falls for it time and time again.

By the time they reach the end of their arc in Season 6, they're still trapped in that endless cycle of lies and tears. At the end of Season 6, Betty is ready to give up on herself and become Archie's little wife. This wouldn't be the worst end for her, but only because Archie is a good guy. The reality of her existence in this timeline would ultimately keep her in Riverdale under the thumb of her mother, settling for a life she actively fought against. Truly, she would become her mother. She would become 'The Mom Next Door'.

I don't see this happening to Cheryl. Sure, she never leaves Thornhill, but she's herself. She possesses her own destiny. Barring the unrelenting obsession with Toni, Cheryl was really starting to move on and grow.

Betty, if anything, was regressing. She is trapped endlessly.

Now, examining their relationships to their mothers in Season 7 is also worth mentioning. What I can say is that Betty and Alice are very much repeating the same cycle. Cheryl and Penelope still have an openly antagonistic relationship, but Penelope is taken off the board before their relationship can really go anywhere.

We can assume things would play out the same way. After all, Riverdale is about cycles, after all.

Alice lied about the body under the table, as revealed in Season 5. This body's existence proves that she at least had reason to suspect Hal as the Black Hood. Yet, she says nothing. We can only assume this was to preserve her "perfect nuclear family" picture as long as possible. Ultimately fruitless, but also deeply selfish.

(Yes, I am well aware that the writers were making things up as they went along and thus, Alice likely had no idea there was a body under her dining room floor back in season 2, but we must examine the facts as we know them now.)

Alice also lied to go under cover for the FBI, never once letting Betty in on the truth to soothe her worries. This pushed her into the arms of her father.

The death of Polly. Ultimately, Alice blamed Betty for this and said it aloud. Even if it was said in a moment of emotion, it was still unbelievably cruel.

So, in the end, I do think that Alice is worse than Penelope and the reason is simple. Penelope's singular aggression allows Cheryl to break away and stand on her own. Alice's cruelty combined with her neediness never allows Betty to breathe long enough to realize that her mother is a monster. She is so deeply selfish.

Cheryl can go toe to toe with Penelope and ultimately grow up. Alice's wounded bird routine breaks Betty's heart and ultimately, keeps her trapped forever.

And thus, the award for "Worst Mom in Riverdale" goes to....ALICE SMITH.

Not really a dissertation, but it is a post. <3

@reclusivedouche @storkmuffin

This one is for you. <3

#Riverdale #RiverMoms #I think Alice is so fucking evil #I still love her tho

[bettyminicoop]

It's amazing how last year we were bombarded with bts from filming, there were constant leaks from weird sources and teasing from Roberto and (ugh) Ted. But this year, it's completely silent. How many, six or seven weeks before the premiere? They filmed at least a quarter of the season. And nothing. Roberto is silent. Ted finally shut up. And even decorator Denise doesn't post her work on her personal Instagram.

I saw that one of the anons said that the actors would soon have a break for the holidays, which means they should have already had a new photo shoot. Lol, like Riverdale has the money for this.

I don't know what that means for the plot. But I think it definitely means that Roberto was reprimanded for the indecently low ratings of season 6. And now they are moving carefully. And all that was left for the fans minutes before the premiere was to speculate on the likes of the actress on Twitter. How low the series I once loved has sunk.

#riverdale negativity

[raymondebidochonlifechoices]

If we’re really going to do the whole Puritan thing …

I seriously need:

No-Merit Andrews

Reformation Mantle

Remember Keller

Die-Well Jones*

and

Has-Descendants Tate (owner of ye locale ordinary**)

*Die-Well Jones is son of Freegift Jones and brother to Farewell Smith (male) and Offspring Jones (female)

**tavern

#oh yes #they're real names #I shall tag this as: #Riverdale season 6 speculation #because why not? #Riverdale nonesense

[izzysamosriverdale]

Cole appears to be hitting the gym again. Wonder what brought that on? Personal reasons? The Riverdale powers-that-be have insisted? Preparation for Season 7 Bughead love scenes? lol

#riverdale speculation #bughead #bughead endgame #jughead x betty #anti b*rchie #anti barchie #anti j*bitha #anti jabitha #riverdale season 6 #riverdale season 7 #cole sprouse

[passionate2020]

soooo… I am not a Barchie fan at all, but…

Are we really suppose to believe that Archie (out of all people) could manifest his ideal version of Betty in his sweet hereafter, but Jughead is incapable of manifesting a version of Tabitha to keep him company since he is supposedly missing her so much? Hmm, yeah.

Jughead is a bloody writer, his imagination should surpass Archie’s (and then some) I mean, he manifested a version of POP TATE for christ sakes…

I believe that Jug cares about Tabitha… just not enough to return to the living for her. Or, just not enough to manifest a version of her to keep him company, at least until the real deal arrives.

Now, I know Jabitha supporters will be screaming in the comments, saying something like: “WELL… HE DIDN’T MANIFEST BETTY EITHER!” but bear with me, dear souls…

Jughead and Betty had so much unfinished business which was never resolved. I am guessing that manifesting a version of Betty Cooper would be too painful for Jug, as it would only serve as a reminder of what slipped through his fingers… and (as far as Jug believes) the real Betty is off the table.. so there’s no point in going back to the land of the living for her.. like he’s done before, twice…..

I am looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds.. and I’ve missed my favourite ship so darn much..

Please just let them be happy Roberto, preferably together again.. for the long haul this time. They deserve it.

#betty x jughead #riverdale season 6 #riverdale #riverdale speculation #betty cooper #anti b*rchie #jughead jones #anti jabitha #varchie

[alexzalben]

Hey Alex! First off, as the Riverdale journey nears completion I wanted to say thank you for being such a huge part of the fandom experience for so many people (myself included). I was also wondering a few things. 1) When they say ‘memories restored’ in the finale synopsis, do you think it means memories of the rest of their lives (i.e. from 1955-2023) or from their ‘previous lives’ (i.e. seasons 1-6)? 2) Do you think everyone will get their memories back or just Betty and whoever the ‘special friend is’? 3) Do you think Choni/the writers will address Fangs/Tangs in any way? Also do you think they’ll get a love confession with/without memories?

Sorry this is so long! Sending love!

Ahhh thank you so much, I am flattered and appreciate it. To answer your questions to the best of my ability:

Synopses are tricky because sometimes there are errors (nothing on them, it happens). In this case, my guess is that it refers to memories from Seasons 1-6, in 1995. But we'll see.

Pure speculation: they'll get their memories back, but choose to live out their lives anyway in chronological fashion.

I could see a joke about Tangs, but I don't think it'll negatively impact Choni.

Thank you again! Good luck out there on these last three episodes!

#riverdale

[arsenicpanda]

I'd like to keep liking Jughead too, the problem is I can see Jug thinking to wipe Tabitha's memories of him before he dies so she doesn't mourn, he's just dumb enough to think it's a good idea but for that to work he has to erase himself from everyone's memory lest they mention him to her so I'm wondering if he does this thinking its a kindness (its NOT) and then doesn't die after all but no one remembers him. We're probably completely wrong, RAS &co will let us down in a new and unexpected way

No no, that's literally part of Madoka's ending in Puella Magi Madoka Magica (well, the reasoning is different, but whatever), which his and Tabitha's story already parallels. Jughead becomes the writer-god of Riverdale to defeat Percival, erases himself from people's memories for Reasons, and that's our cliffhanger for s7 or something. I could see it happening, but I would not like it! But you never know with RAS, you never know with this show, and I'm hoping we get a happy ending for everyone.

#asks #anonymous #Riverdale #Riverdale season 6 #Riverdale spoilers #Riverdale speculation #jabitha #Jughead Jones #the madohomu-ification of jabitha #plot twist: when Tabitha finds out she becomes Riverdale Satan to save him in a parallel to the third movie #but I would not like that either!! #I'm going to be boring and hope for a happy ending #do not make me go on what will probably be a huge hiatus with a Bad End!! #pls Mr. RAS I am BEGGING YOU #my thoughts on Riverdale let me show you them

[jancysmixtape]

THE TITLE FOR THE 100th episode!! JUGHEAD SAVING THE DAY?!

#riverdale #betty cooper #bughead #jughead jones #rvd #rvd season 6 #riverdale season 6 #riverdale speculation

[stonerbughead]

latest deuxmoi reads like it’s about riverdale but also in a way that makes me wonder if a fan just wrote and submitted it? hmmm

#deuxmoi #riverdale season 6 #riverdale season 7 #riverdale speculation