#That pan and ace people do

[miraculouslumination]

Actually laughing (derogatory) because I just saw someone unironically say “btw it’s 2022 we need to stop telling people what they can and cannot identify as because you view it as ‘harmful’” and then literally the first tag was “mspec lesbians/gays DNI btw this is not about you” like....no. Go back to your desk and rewrite your paper. Read a book. Read what you WROTE out loud. All of it. And try to see how utterly asinine what you just wrote now is. Then come back to the table and discuss.

#Jean mumbles #Homie (derogatory) I don't know how to tell you this but...mspec lesbians and mspec gays face the exact rhetoric #That pan and ace people do #Because it's all the same queerphobic bullshit #Make it make sense #Oh wait you can't

[lululeighsworld]

it was literally their moment and they just let us watch

(if you need me i'll be marinating in this for the foreseeable future)

#magneto #rogue #rogneto #rogueneto #IT WAS SO DIFFICULT TO PICK ONLY 10 IMAGES. SOSOSOSO DIFFICULT. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SCENE WAS FUCKING SUBLIME. #thank you to the person who pointed out the bg music is ace of base 'happy nation' ;wwwwwww; SUCH A GOOD SONG FOR THIS #okay but for real never have i had a stronger 'GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME' moment #magneto can we all form a queue to dance with you romantically in the air while an audience watches............. #their body language. their HANDS. OLD MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR MOUTH AND YOUR TONGUE BY HER NECK #no word of a lie ive probably watched this scene 200 times today. new comfort media. inject it directly into my veins. #my husband laughing at me as i rewind and play over and over again from the other side of the room #my fave fave FAAAAVE part of this animation is the lil pan they do #the one between mags and rogue and the lyric 'where the people understand and dream of perfect man' #THERE IS SOMETHING SO SOFT AND ROMANTIC AND ADORING ABOUT IT #disintegrates like a sopping wet piece of bread. thank you animators who worked on this scene #i feel like i am burning with the excitement of a thousand suns over this #xmen 97 #leigh's magneto hours

[rottmnt-residuum]

Any other LGBTQ+ Headcannons that are canon is the comic??;)

*patiently awaits Cupioromantic Donnie*

hmm... had to think about this for a while and talk about it with co-author, but here's what we got. we mostly base this stuff on how plausible it is in show/if there's evidence for it. with a dash of personal experience. This only applies to residuum, btw. I have different personal headcanons for these characters outside the comic.

april: lesbian. this is mostly based off of the fact that most aprils get with their caseys & the comment she said to dale. which could be taken as disinterest in dale specifically, but she seemed more concerned with impressing that popular girl earlier and that reads as more... saphic, i suppose. or at the very least homoromantic.

raph: raph is just raph. we look at him and basically just *tv static*. go crazy. all we got is jokes or stuff that has too little evidence to support. so, yeah, he's whatever you want him to be i guess?

leo: trans. already said my reason in the other post. also, gay. if gay were a power source he could power the entirety of the united states for five months straight without a single power outage. failing power grid notwithstanding (< thats the actual word. its supposed to be mushed together like that. wack.).

donnie: as much as i'd like him to be ace/aro spectrum rep, he just doesn't have the evidence in show for us to apply it to him in this comic. it's funny, for being hc as ace so often he sure is the most outwardly romantic/sexual turtle in the show lmao. one! cherry: "you're so cute, but you're so mean! why do i always go for your type?" two! astrogirl?? (whatever her name is) he is very very romantic with her. he has a type y'all. also just look at those two, he's a leg man lmao (bootyyshaker9000 anyone? ha!) anyway. and with the bromance/instant chemistry he had with that one guy in the purple dragons... Pan. or possibly Omni as he does seem to favor... cute brutal femme... Yeah. Omnisexual.

(you have no idea how fucking bad i want this boy to be ace spectrum. hes got the colors y'all!! The Colors!!!!! but alas... i am bound by my canon plausibility creed for this comic)

mikey: ace. possibly ace/aro. he shows interest in literally no-one. we're aware that the common hc is pan but... we know a pan 13 year old, and let me tell you ahahahaha, kids going through puberty are very uncomfortable to be around sometimes, especially around their partners. or crushes. and mikey... well, that boy is ace behavior personified lmao. aces in the back you get what we mean right?? right??? anyway commiting to aroace

#residual asks #rottmnt #i really get a kick out of he/him butch lesbian raph and ghostbear-sexual raph #but i'd never use those seriously. or at least in this comic #co-author says what they get if they really had to choose for raph is ace homoromantic #but otherwise... #he's just raph #like we can't apply any identity to him. and we really mean ANY identity. not even straight or umbrella terms like queer #its a very odd feeling #i also really like trans april but we don't have enough evidence for it #in fact there's actually counter evidence- but don't let that stop your dreams y'all. it just stops ours :P #sorry for stepping on your donnie dreams anon #but honestly i think that label applies more to 2012 donnie imo #i really do personally prefer ace/aro donnie. but i'd make everyone ace if i were able lmao #co-author would also do the same thing ahaah #i just don't like depicting romantic relationships. or attraction ahahaah #with mikey... we get why people hc him as pan... but like its a fandomism stereotype #that literally every fandom applies to optimistic friendly characters. and honestly i really don't like the fandomism stereotypes #i just find them... unenjoyable i guess #cuz like y'alll... your sexuality isn't inherently determined by your personality or vise versa #cuz like i know for sure that in fandom spaces- if i were a character- i'd be stereotyped as pan or a hypersexual cis het #to which i am neither. at all. #and co-author would be stereotyped as the demure femme book lesbian #which they are VERY much not #and i know this because i've been fandomified by people in my life more than once #it is a very uncomfortable experience y'all #whoops rant in the tags #residuum #rottmnt residuum #residuum wb

[shardain]

hey, uh, its ok to headcanon characters as ace!

it is even okay to headcanon traumatized characters as ace!

gay, lesbian, bisexual, or pansexual characters can also be ace!

asexuals can also, in fact, still find people attractive! what a concept!

it doesn't hurt anyone to let people have ace headcanons!!!

#i am sticking my hand in the beehive #whats up fuckers i see bg3 fandom keeps being weird about asexuals #leave the ace discourse in the dirt for once GOD #ace hcs aren't hurting you or stealing gay/pan rep i prommy #sorry i just get so fed up i can't not yell into the void about this one #“here's proof your ace hc is wrong” and it's still things asexuals can be/do/say #“but but he finds the player attractive and he says so” yes! ace people can find people attractive too! #iykyk which character specifically set this off #beansposting

[illegiblehandwriting1]

sksw zelink is gay

#bisexual queen and her cringefail pan/ace probably transmasc boyfriend #one is a god and the other could kill god and i don't care if there is a difference #yes yes yes it's a m/f ship #AND THEY ARE SO INCREDIBLY GAY FOR EACH OTHER #I DO NOT MAKE THE RULES #LOOK AT THEM AND TELL ME THEY AREN'T GAY #YOU CAN'T MOTHERFUCKER #sksw #loz sksw #sksw link #sksw zelda #skyward sword #loz skyward sword #tloz #legend of zelda #chicken scratch #loz #the legend of zelda #the people need to know

[zels-echoes]

Being an aro/ace and having people tell me characters who come off as strongly aro/ace are just being in denial of their feelings makes me want to punch a hole in a wall. That and people saying or implying character can’t possibly be asexual because they’re too hot/sexy for that.

If a character was in denial of their feelings for someone then I think a writer or artist would blatantly convey that for the reader or viewer to pick up on.

I have an aro/ace character of my own who is exactly like that. A character who has strong feelings for one person, but fears too much to be in love with them because she believes too much that they’ll reject her because of who she is and it eats at her constantly. So instead she tries to keep them pushed away because she feels they deserve better. You would see it in her face, you would see it in her behavior and brought up multiple times even if it’s in her own mind. You would KNOW that her heart was aching over it yet refusing to give in to her feelings. That is denial of feelings and still being aro/ace! What a concept!

Not a character clearly displaying no feelings at all if not showing that they’re extremely uncomfortable and outright shutting down any advances towards them, never to be brought up again. That’s an aro/ace genuinely not giving a single fuck.

#I hate shipping fandom so damn much man #the amount of aro and ace hate and erasure I find is disgusting #people go bonkers for gay/bi/pan shit #but the second a character is ace people will do mental gymnastics to deny it #but if that ace character falls in love especially if it’s same sex then it’s more about the gay and nothing about the ace #let’s be real no one gives a fuck about our side of the spectrum except the people who are in it

[flashhwing]

I love bitchy gays

#disclaimer i'm using gay as a catchall #astarion is canonically pan and sehra (they/them) is bi-ace #yes i do feel the need to include the disclaimer because apparently people love to erase the bg3 companions' sexualities #ash plays bg3 #this has been a post

[flecks-of-stardust]

there’s something i really want to know about sex repulsion but i don’t know if there’s a way to ask about what i want to know without it ending up being rude

#disclaimer that i used to identify as ace and specifically sex repulsed #(my headmate still uses the label but i do not) #the extent of any repulsion i feel now is largely around a lack of trust in how my body can be touched #and not sex itself #but i’m curious how this stuff pans out for other people #anyway

[sleepii-moth]

i really hate how people on the internet handle straight relationships in media sometimes, like theres nothing wrong with having headcannons that make a cishet relationship more queer but god people will go through such great lengths to ignore the fact that you can be in a straight relationship and still be queer..

#where are my t4t headcannons at huh? you people do realize you can headcannon characters to be trans have them stay the gender they are in #cannon right?? what about my bi 4 bi homies?? my pan 4 pan bros?? nonbinary people that lean on femme or masc presentations???? #im not even equipped to talk about the pure lack of any ace or aro headcannons.. good god.... #this is a certified simon/betty post im the only one who has ever been right about them

[kanenites]

why was everyone posting abt ace discourse a few hours ago It is 2023 . that is a 2018 discourse. why do you still care. like i have my opinions on it but its literally pointless to discuss bc no one in real life gives a fuck

#''why do you think youre lgbt for not wanting to have sex'' 1. thats not what being ace is 2. why is that your business #so much of my opinion on lgbt discourse is now just You can do whatever you want forever #mspec lesbians? blue gay flag? bi/pan distinction? dude im in college i have more important shit to worry about. yknow. #because no one cares!!! no one who is not terminally online gives a shit abt any of this #cupid.txt #ace discourse #aphobia cw #<- say what you want abt the term aphobia i am tagging this for the people who have it blacklisted ok? its ok

[x-v4mp3y3lin3r-x]

if you're deconstructing your ideas of binary gender and binary sex— you also have to deconstruct your ideas of binary sexuality and romantic attraction, too, fyi

#'are you saying homosexuals don't really exist??!?!!?!' no. please use your brain. #im saying it literally doesn't matter if a lesbian dates someone who YOU perceive as a man. #because the people in that relationship know more than you. #and human experience does not exist in a binary. #you have to accept that sometimes other people will experience life differently than you do #this also goes for gays and bis and pans and aces and aros. #the only people who get to define their experiences are them. #so no I don't really care if a gay man says his true love is a woman and he means it. #i still consider him gay. because he knows himself and his partner better than i know how to perceive them both #and how someone else identifies is none of my business. #that woman may be only part woman. or only perceived as a woman. or only sometimes a woman. or always both woman and man. #there's so many ways to be human. you have to learn to take other queers at face value and not question them #when you question if someone is 'REALLY gay' or 'REALLY trans' or 'REALLY bi'; you're thinking with the mindset of an oppressor #you do not need to gatekeep queerness. queerness is not a limited resource. queer people are not your enemies. #learn to empathize and embrace experiences unlike yours. be a better ally to the people in your own community instead of immediately - #- searching for ways to cast them out. be better. stop thinking like our oppressors. queer people do not need to rationalize ourselves for - #- anyone. they don't owe you an explanation. you cannot take their 'gay card' away.

[aroaessidhe]

2023 reads // twitter thread

Love Letters For Joy

YA contemporary Cyrano de Bergerac retelling

an ace girl with cerebral palsy who’s determined to be valedictorian, with only her academic rival to beat

when her friends start pairing up, she starts to wonder if she wants something like that, and emails the anonymous romance advice email going around her school

#Love Letters For Joy #aroaessidhe 2023 reads #hm. #the good: so many disabled characters! #main boy has asthma; side characters in wheelchairs and two others incidentally with CP; #and like every other character is wearing glasses #(which tbh. is probably just a normal amount of disability i any given group of people but how often do you see that much in a book lmao) #(I also just noticed the BG characters on the cover too) #but it is very…….doesn’t really explore anything in depth and also the drama got pretty comical at the end? #i forgot it was the CDB retelling. #feel like it should have taken the concept and then ran with the natural possibilities for the characters instead of trying to stick to tha #no more YA where the secret anonymous person keeps their identity secret for no reasonable reason and it only causes problems pls #near the end the dude is outed to his parents and kicked out. and like holy shit it does not explore that in depth?? #one of her ‘friends’ is in love with her and after kissing her without consent goes on this aphobic tirade and becomes like a comical vilai #neither of those things are handled very well #also just little things like joy tells her friends that over the course of the book she’s realised she’s pan - #which was not mentioned a single time in her internal narration. there's tons of that kind of thing. telling not showing. #asexual books #while she mentions she's ace a lot she doesn't talk about specific experiences a lot #(which is not an issue but damn i wish it would have done that with Something in the book)

[skyriderwednesday]

Look, the file was still open and making painterly flag blends is a lot of fun so~

Pretty Paget Holmes + Lesbian/Bi/MLM/Pan/Rainbow Pride/Genderqueer/Genderfluid/Trans/Nonbinary flags :)

#sherlock holmes #acd holmes #i was originally just going to do a set based on headcanons i've seen people have for holmes himself-- #but the lesbian flag is pretty colours #and the pan flag makes me happy #so obviously then i needed to do the bi flag #i am on the hunt for a good quality version of my favourite watson illustration so that he can join in too #pretty paget flags #(< i will go back and tag the aro/aroace/ace post with this too)

[nerdfighterwhatevernumbers]

i really do want more recognition for aromanticism outside of asexuality, it feels like an afterthought identity to most people, like 'oh also you might be aromantic if you're asexual'

#it's a small thing but like joann fabrics has pride yarn for both bi and pan and trans and nonbinary but only ace yarn no aro #when pride pins are in walmart in june they have genderfluid and intersex and genderqueer but not aro #and i don't want other identities to NOT be included it's just what do people think is wrong with ME that I'm so basic but I'm left out

[homophyte]

it is interesting to me that ive seen lately (n yknow this is subjective and likely not any real social force just what ive seen) many queer people simultaneously talking about taking back and embodying unpalatable and ‘unmarketable’ queerness (the recent return to the terms faggot and transsexual come to mind) which i think is pretty evidently shaped by the conservative moment were in of demonizing queer ppl and especially gnc and trans people as predators--it reads as a return to queer isolationism in the face of external hostility, imo--while at the same time ive seen a lot of rallying around the “original” 6 stripe rainbow flag as opposed to any of the purportedly ‘factional’ flags of different queer identities, with the assumption being different identity flags divide us while the rainbow flag encompasses everyone and its kinda fascinating to me bc the rainbow flag is probably the single most marketable and palatable and uncontroversial symbols of queerness which has been seamlessly uptaken by those who wish to sell it back to us as gets pointed out every pride month with all the cringey pride merch.... i dunno you could maybe take that as a point of hypocrisy and claim the queer community is itself in a conservative moment rn where its returning to a sense of history and historical continuity (perhaps even out of that sense of external threat) or even that the queer community has for some time been in a conservative moment given the like, decade of identity discourse and lashing out at any people deemed to not have a sufficiently established history or however we should categorize the bihets/ace discourse/transtrender-tucute discourse/pan discourse/bi lesbians discourse (because lets be frank its essentially all the same discourse just keeping up its momentum by leapfroging from one target to the next) which i think is, like, SOMEWHAT true but not entirely? its more interesting to me, in any case, as an expression of a conflict the queer community is facing given that current state of affairs RE antitransness and that very recent history. like, the simultaneous need to retreat to a safe sense of community which is welcoming to the very things the outer world is demonizing ie mutable gender, complex or contradictory experiences of gender, gender expression which is hostile to the cis binary, but also the ways in which it has to grapple with those discourses which have largely defined the community infighting for again the past decade. its queer people begging the question ‘how can we make the queer community welcoming to the girlfags and genderfucks and tboys who are being threatened when we have spent so much time making the queer community a hostile place for anyone with a non-conventional or not easily (or even just palatably) sortable sense of queer identity’. and the answer it seems to be grappling with at the moment is like, welcoming all that diversity of experience but being absolutely averse to naming it. yes we love all the fuckery with gender and sexuality never be marketable but like, ew, why are you calling yourself [insert microlabel here]. you can be genderweird but you cant call yourself genderweird. you can only exist as queer in the broadest possible way (the all-inclusive gay pride flag!) but if you try to name the specifics or use those identity labels weve been fighting over for years youre doing it wrong (the progress pride flag is now ugly and cringey and ‘too much’). i think theres something also to the way (at least on this site) transmisogynistic discourses have really taken hold as legitimate (though yknow i wont downplay how much a problem transmisogyny has like. always been in queer spaces no matter what) in the name of protecting n defending trans people. like its just regurgitated transmisogyny but its being mobilized supposedly in the service of helping trans people. idk its definitely getting a little late for me to string this together fully coherently but theres a throughline there, in the ways certain ideas are being consolidated and reified as ‘yes were more progressive now!’ when i think theres definitely something to question there in terms of like...are we? are we actually? are we doing better by the people were trying to help or are we setting strict standards and forcing ppl to adhere to them again?

#myposts #this is long and honestly probably Nothing #i dont even really have a way of proving its the same group of people saying both things except fro anecdotally seeing it #and even thats not proof either is a real social force with like power. i could be entirely wrong on every count here #but i do think theres something to the idea that like #as ive seen said #yknow 'ace discourse never ended you all just accepted ace people didnt deserve support and then moved on w those views internalized' #i think thats more broadly true for like. all those discourses i mentioned. and for the transmisogyny i alluded to #but honestly i dont even want to name the specific phenomenon im talking abt there bc those people. scare me. #but yknow ill say it ive felt way more pressure lately to not call myself pan than i did at the height of pan discourse #before it became cringe to care about it and instead of actively shitting on pan ppl we moved on to passively doing it #ive largely started just. calling myself bi to avoid the arguement. which i predicted i would have to do years ago #and now look at me doing it! not really a fluke that its happening now. i think #which isnt to say were moving 'backwards' per se but that these ideas are not now and never have been really challenged #so weve just internalized their logics--reactionary logics--and its having an interesting effect now that we need a progressive community #for our safety. #now we cant say anything about it because to bring it up is jeopardizing everything weve built and the people were keeping safe! #cause we dont count as people deserving of safety were disruptors who only belong when we dont make noise. idk. or thats how i feel #again i dont really know if this is true at all im more just...thinking through it i think #basically like what im seeing--i think--comes from simultaneously that need to be unmarketable in the face of hostility #coming into conflict with a decade of momentum to make queers solely marketable. and i think thats producing some interesting--but sucky #--discourses in the current moment #last disclaimer that i might and am likely totally wrong! okay lauren out. post send *nervous sweating*

[useless-gay-kid4]

all this arguing over who can or can’t be a lesbian. honestly. what are you, straight?

#marble shoot #i am. tired #we are literally queer why do you keep trying to reinvent binaries #i might make a proper post about this at some point cos it really irritates me but. sigh #lesbian #trans boy #this is about transmasc lesbians/lesbian trans men #and bi/pan lesbians #and multigender lesbians #and aro and/or ace lesbians #and any other lesbian who’s existence is deemed ‘controversial’ by queer people #i love you all and i support you