#The Maddie Buckley Saga continues

[briinstardust]

I dont think buck was/is mad at maddie leaving before doug but I think it affected him more then she knows. Just with taking of dispatch he genuinely believed maddie didn't need him there she cause had chimn. And as someone with siblings and I cant imagine not also going to comfort them just cause their parnter was there(its a different type of comfort). Buck seem to think even in maddie life he's replaceable

I don’t think Buck was mad either. but I agree, it definitely affected Buck more than Maddie realized, and more than Buck realized, honestly.

That scene bothers me so much *sigh* I’ve read the fanfics that fix it but honestly, I’m still so bothered by it. Buck is really out here thinking that Maddie, his sister, who helped raise him doesn’t want to see him after a traumatic event. and I’m just up-fucking-set about it. gdi.

and like I’m pissed about this moment from an anormativity standpoint and I just have fucking feelings about it every time I watch this episode. I just have fucking feelings about it.

Buck is really out here thinking that his sister doesn’t want his comfort? like, Sir. for why? why are you thinking this way? anormativity that’s why. the idea that romantic love trumps any other form of love and I’m just sick of this shit 😂 You hear me Evan Buckley I’m sick of your shit!

dear god I did not expect to go here tonight lmao but here we are.

Buck absolutely acts like he’s replaceable in Maddie’s life... in anyone’s life really, if we’re going here might as well go all the way right. and I just entirely have feelings about this entire thing and it’s all going back to the anormativity narrative. like Buck would legit think that someone’s partner/ friend/ whatever could replace him as whatever they were to that person and Evan Buckley I just have questions and 100% need to know who the fuck hurt you like this. who did this to you, so I can come over there and sort this out for you. Let’s get you a therapist Sir. Sir you need a therapist. that’s just not how this works Evan Buckley, it’s just not how this works. 

and like the complete other thing about this is like okay going back to 2.08 Buck really puts so much emphasis on his romantic relationships. and like it just doesn’t have to be this way you know. like okay 2.18 Buck’s crushed under the ladder truck, I didn’t want to go here but here we are. he’s crushed under the ladder truck and his sister is there and his friend is there, but he only gives a fuck about Ali?! SIR WHY?! ENTIRELY WHY SIR?! the minute he sees Ali he forgets about Carla, and legit says nothing to his sister. Maddie even goes as far as to say “I would like it noted that he didn’t thank either of us.”

and like I’m just entirely done with your shit Evan Buckley. I get it anomativity. I get it, but it just does not have to be this way. your familial love for Maddie can sit right next to her romantic love for Chimney equally, and they can both coexist on level playing field.  okay and since were here. Buck’s romantic love for Eddie can sit happily next to his familial/parental love for Christopher which can sit right next to his familial love for Maddie which can sit right next to his platonic love for Carla.

This post has gotten out of hand. I’m losing my entire mind rn 😂

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[wildlife4life]

So I have to wait two weeks to see the precious reunion between Buck and Maddie?! Two weeks to see Eddie break down with Buck IN THE ROOM?! Two weeks to see the emotional whip lash Buck is going to go through?! There is not enough chores in my house for this kind of anxious waiting!!!! I can’t put off laundry again!

#evan buckley #maddie buckley #eddie diaz #buck whump #911 fox #buddie #buckley siblings #laundry saga continues

[buckttommy]

I know you’ve posted about ratings in the past but I would be sooo curious to hear what you think about the finale ratings? They’ve been dipping so low the last few weeks that a part of me thinks it’s definitely that last scene that brought in more viewers. But, I dunno. 👀 It’ll also be interesting to see how the premiere does.

Hello!

Okay, I had to do some research on this one. Before I get into the Season 4 ratings, I wanted to first look at 9-1-1's seasonal averages to see how they compare. (M = Million; D = Demographic)

General Data:

Season One: premiered with 6.8M views and scored 1.78 among the 18-49yo demographic and ended with a 6.3M viewer average and a 1.65D average Season Two: premiered with a 9.8M viewers and scored 2.56 among the 18-49yo demographic and ended with 6.0M viewer average and a 1.37D average Season Three: premiered with 7.1M viewers and a 1.59 among the 18-49yo demographic and ended with 6.8M viewer average and a 1.38D average Season Four: premiered with 7.1M viewers and a 1.22 among the 18-49yo demographic and ended with approx. 6.4M viewers* (seen conflicting reports) and a 1.05D average.

(ALSO: Not really relevant but totally of interest: S1E1 of 9-1-1 Lone Star premiered with 11.4M views. WOW)

Season Four Data

Season 4 ended with a total Nielsen rating of 1.7 which is average for scripted network shows of this caliber (for context: Grey's Anatomy also ended with a 1.7). Scripted network shows are NEVER going to beat out football/live sports or reality television like but for what it is, 9-1-1 does pretty well. (source)

To your point about the ratings dipping low lately, the truth is that Season 4's episodic ratings have dropped significantly compared to 9-1-1's previous seasons (1.53, 1.21, and 1.19 were their lowest episodic ratings for S1-3 respectively with 0.85 being Season 4's lowest episodic rating. OUCH). Even though 9-1-1's episodic ratings have dropped this season, their viewer average remains the same. 9-1-1 has NEVER dropped below 5.1M viewers (their highest viewer count, of course, being 9.8M for S2E1). Their highest views this season was Episode 2 "Alone Together" with 7.2M, and their lowest views this season was Episode 12 "Treasure Hunt" with 5.8M. (source)

It's hard to say what, exactly, caused this decline but the world was in shambles for a minute there so I'm not stressed about it. Interestingly, 9-1-1's episodic ratings for Season 4 dropped after their midseason hiatus; not sure why or if that's even calculable, but it is fascinating. As for the uptick in viewers like you mentioned, it's fair to say that the end of Episode 13 did draw more viewers. Whether it's the buddie of it all or something else, 9-1-1's demographic responds well to story arcs that follow their main characters (ex. episodes 3-5, the Daniel Buckley saga, clocked in the second highest views all season, and the tsunami arc clocked in some of the highest views of Season 3). Incidentally, I think this is why their views were kind of messy this year. A lot of episodes this season were filler episodes. There weren't a lot of major plot points to pursue and there definitely wasn't a lot of character development, especially not among the original cast members.

Now, okay. Here's where we dip into opinion territory.

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Opinions

While I personally love when 9-1-1's season finales are wrapped up in a nice little bow with little-to-no cliffhangers, I'm not sure I would have done that this year. As I mentioned before, there were very little substantive storylines in 9-1-1 this year. The "meatiest" storylines either focused on other people (Albert in the pileup, Hen's mom being ill), were only one or two episodes, or didn't have enough development that would have made the story, and eventual resolution, worthwhile (i.e. the shooting). Maddie's PPD has yet to be resolved, but when it comes to sensationalist television and what actually draws people in, Eddie's recovery from the shooting would have been far more engaging (NOTE: I love Maddie and I think her story is important, I'm just speaking in general). Obviously, this season was cut short for COVID reasons, but those missing four episodes really do make a difference when it comes to character growth/plot development. I'm looking forward to those additional four episodes next year!

While I'm on the topic of storylines and audience engagement, I think one problem 911 is running into is where and how they stand against 911LS. When you have two shows of relatively the same caliber, you have to figure out how to distinguish one from the other, otherwise your viewers will just be watching two versions of the same story. Tim and Brad have decided to distinguish the two shows by having Lone Star lean into the more serious, gritty storylines (i.e. Judd and Grace's accident, multiple on-screen suicide attempts, the arsonist immolating himself, etc), and that's great, but the problem is that 9-1-1 has drifted into "safe" territory. You can always expect a goofy little laugh and to end the episode on a relatively happy note, and that's nice and all, but that's not how you build a successful show. The WORST thing 9-1-1 could do right now is play it safe. They only have about one or two more seasons before viewer fatigue starts to set in if they keep going this route. Sure, they'll keep the majority of their loyal viewers by virtue of the fact that they've spent years invested in this show and have no interest in not watching, but that's a lazy way to keep viewers. 9-1-1 should continue with their velocity of having Eddie get shot. That scene alone made all 40+ minutes of the episode worth it. Give the characters more storylines that don't always focus on their emotions. I love Buck's growth, Bobby's struggle with sobriety, and Hen's journey into med school, but 9-1-1's writers need to push the boundaries of the boxes they've written themselves into.

And this isn't about Buddie, but if the relationship between Buck and Eddie were to go fully, explicitly canon, ratings would SOAR. They're not bad as it is, but if they went that extra mile, I imagine it would push them well out of the 1.7 range and possibly into the 1.9-2.0. The LGBTQ+ community is a very loud community; combined with the quality of the story being told through Buck and Eddie and how revolutionary it would be to have two gay/bisexual, attractive, leading men on a primetime network show fall in love and build a family together? That'd be a ratings goldmine. 9-1-1 is comfortable and they have strong network backing; if ever they were going to take a risk like that, the next two-ish years would be the perfect time to do it.

Finally, to your last point I think 9-1-1 Season 5 is on a pretty good trajectory to premiere well. Their premieres always pull in their highest views (S1: 6.8M, S2: 9.8M, S3: 7.163M and S4: 7.193M, respectively), so if I had to guess, I'd say Season 5 is going to premiere with a comfortable 6.9M - 7.1M viewers. We'll see where things go with the development of Season 5, what kind of storylines they come up with, and how we leave off by the end of the first half of the season, but I'm optimistic and I'm really looking forward to it!

Thanks for stopping by!

#anonymous #answered #jack answers mail #statistics #ratings #tv: 911

[briinstardust]

Whys the secret coming out while she pregnant, if it affects buck why not when his leg was crushed, embolisms etc.(its "childhood secret" so affects both of them maybe a different dad). Part of me things adotion, different parent etc or she bucks mum cause age gap 12-14 years, she use to wash him, parent him even now. But more she has alot of guilt for leaving him to go to college, which as someone with siblings isnt normal(almost like parental guilt)

I will def ride the different parents train with you. I’ll ride the half siblings train with you for sure.

so like I hate the Maddie’s Buck’s mom thing. I’ll just say it. I do. I hate it. anyways moving on.

I’m here for the adoption thing, and I’m here for half siblings thing. I’m here for something happening to one of their parents I’m here for all of that.

lets ride the half siblings train for a minute since we haven’t done that yet.

so okay let’s say same mom. Maddie’s dad, something happens to him when Maddie’s just a baby herself, and Maddie grows up only knowing their dad.

so same dad thing then, something happens to Maddie’s mom and Maddie’s dad ends up in a new relationship and then Buck comes into the picture. but Buck doesn’t know they’re half siblings.

though I can’t see the half siblings thing being super traumatic... can someone paint it as traumatic for me please?

like is it just Buck’s insecurities about belonging that makes this a big secret that’s traumatic for Buck? I just need someone to lay it down for me. bc I can see this being the thing, but like I’ve used literally all of my brain cells this week. paint the scene for me, please.

Maddie has guilt, but like I’ve always interpreted it as the same guilt I have for not being there for someone when I knew they were going through something, but there was actually nothing I could do about the situation you know?

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 speculations #9-1-1 spoilers #911 spoilers #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #someone set the scene for me with the half siblings thing #is it just Buck's abandonment issues that makes this traumatic? like what is actually happening here? #sorry my answers keep making no sense brain cells are checked the fuck out #but I've reread this one and like I think I've said what I wanted? oh well we'll see what happens

[briinstardust]

Why is maddie is scared.. is about baby, her parents, buck?

I assume that Maddie is scared bc she’s never had a baby before and this is triggering some kind of reflex for her? wondering if she’ll be a good mom? (we know she’ll be an amazing mom tbh) but maybe she’s worried about not being a good mom? 

or maybe there’s something else going on there that we don’t know about?

It could be a combination of things that Maddie is scared about tbh I’m not entirely sure.

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[briinstardust]

Did you know question.. I mean like buck going to maddie crying ask her "did you know I'm adopted", also for baby pics maybe he's doing a baby shower for maddie and wants everyone baby pictures for a game

OHHHHHHH OKAY

yeah for sure. I think that’s a great way for Buck to bring it up to Maddie esp if we’re operating under the assumption that he finds out the secret on his own and wants to confront her about it.

then Maddie tells the truth and Buck doesn’t know how to not be disappointed you know.

UNF YES YOU’RE RIGHT!  that’s such a way Buck could realize there aren’t baby pics of him until he was older! OHMIGAWD!!  Thank you!

I’m kind of loving this speculation guys!

So if we’re running with the Buck’s adopted theory which I think I want to operate on for a little while longer. let’s say Buck knows he’s adopted. But Maddie doesn’t know Buck knows.

Maddie’s got her baby pictures out and Buck’s start as him older than Maddie’s start. 

Buck brings this up, Maddie admits he’s adopted. Buck says “I know, I’ve known for years now, I just can’t believe it took you this long to tell me. did you think I couldn’t handle knowing? did you really think I went 29 years without knowing?” and Maddie is just shocked about this, Buck’s taking it in stride but he’s upset obvi. and I think they have a tiff over it for sure

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 character discussions #9-1-1 speculations #9-1-1 spoilers #911 spoilers #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #okay so thank you for that clarification! this was great! #this was a great ride to go on with you! #love to see it! #I'll do another one later

[briinstardust]

Certain things kinda made me question buck/maddies relationship as kids, I think she did parent him but as soon as she went to college she left but came back for holidays(thinking as teen she could handle her parents so could buck)ie why buck freaked in s2 about maddie getting her own place as if she was gonna disappear on him again

Buck has abandonment issues for sure. and I think you’re right to imply that Maddie is part of the reason he has those issues. I think you’re right.

I think Maddie did leave Buck when she went to college, I think that affected him. and I think that you’re right to question their relationship as children.

also tho Maddie is older than Buck by 10+ years so that’s also something we have to keep in mind. Maddie’s always going to be in a different place in her life than Buck is so things that Buck needs at a certain age Maddie might not be able to give to Buck and as a sister, she shouldn’t have to. but she’s a good sister and she’s done her best with what they had.

and okay so Maddie saying “Buck is 28 and I still have my hands full” to me feels like Buck also looked up to Maddie as a step in parental figure and even tho he knew she was his sister, the fact that she was in and out of his life, probably contributed to his anxious attachment style.

#Bri Screams #anon #answred #9-1-1 character discussions #9-1-1 speculations #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #did I get that right? anxious attachment style?

[briinstardust]

Tbh I thought she around for bucks childhood until buck(red episode) said "you're the one who leaves, and not with doug, doug definitely should have left. All the guys with dated before him, girl you were best friends with in high shcool, mum and dad, me. You've never to watch someone you love walk away"That kinda made to look at their relationship differently, could their closeness now me maddie trying to make up lost time and regrets

I think you’re right. Maddie is trying to make up for time she spent away from Buck when he was growing up.

I just really feel like when she’s around they’re so close. I absolutely think there were times in Buck’s childhood when she wasn’t around, and Buck was, and still is feeling a type a way about it, and like valid. but I’ve always seen them as being really close when they’re together. like so close.

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 character discussions #9-1-1 speculations #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #I'm sad thinking about how sad Buck must have been to not have his sister around when he felt he needed her *sigh* #I just want them to be super close

[briinstardust]

Okay with buck finding out the secret and maddie not telling him if its adoption, he could have no idea until hes planning a baby shower for her and looking though baby pics to surprise her with where he realises theres a ton of maddie but none of him until he like 18 months. So buck thinks it odd and immediately goes into research mode, looking any reason why, odd moments/comments in past until he goes to maddie about it (cause he' s birth certificated would have his adoptive parents on it)

Okay so we’re saying that Maddie knows Buck’s adopted, and doesn’t tell Buck, bc it doesn’t mean anything. it doesn’t matter he’s still her brother adopted or not. they’re still family, and it doesn’t matter.

Buck finds out he’s adopted and finds out that Maddie knew and kept it from him. Okay I entirely need to ask, what’s the deal with the Buckley parents, bc this is their situation, and Buck shouldn’t be taking his frustration out on Maddie over this, he needs to be taking his frustration out on them, and I understand that Maddie is right here for him to take his frustration out on, and she knew too, but I entirely need to know what is going on with their parental situation at this point.  

okay also in this scenario are we saying that Buck finds his birth parents?

What if something happened to them? and what if they’re not alive? what does that do to Buck? he finds out something happened to his birth parents shortly after his birth and that’s why he was adopted?

but maybe that’s what Maddie knows. maybe Maddie knows that something happened to them.

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[briinstardust]

I think he definitely sees as a his sister now, cause he had grown so much since they had last spoke but I do think maddie sometimes still feels the need to parent him a little but she doesn't releaise shes doing it, she's his sister first. (Could be possible that buck doesn't realise how maddie parented him s kid and thinks it was a normal sibling relationship)

I agree. I think Maddie probably didn’t realize how much she had stepped in as a parental figure bc it’s just what she knew. and Buck probably didn't realize that Maddie’s care for him was more parental than it was the way a sibling would care for their sibling. but again I don’t think that’s either of their faults. where were their parents? someone tell me where the Buckley parents were. someone tell me.

I will say that I think their relationship is kind of better for this though. I think they’re closer now and I think their relationship is stronger, bc they both relied on each other so much. you know what I mean. and I think Buck has such an appreciation for Maddie as his sister that he might not have without them needing to lean on each other so much.

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[briinstardust]

Yeah anxious attachment style is right and "Buck is 28 and I still have my hands full" that and her talking about washing 2 year old buck(where the parents). I think its as much buck looked up to maddie in a step in parent role, she felt the need to be that for that buck first since he was baby. So to bucks as along as he can remember maddie has been some sort of parental figure(Shes never shown any issues with it infact it more like she feels guilty for not doing more)

you know what you’re right. Maddie does seem to have guilt over not doing more for Buck. and no one knows where their parents are I have questions about that but like who knows if we’ll ever find out.

but honestly, Buck’s anxious attachment style comes entirely from his parents and Maddie cannot be blamed for that in any way.

I think that Buck might have seen Maddie as a parental figure when he was younger, but now that he’s older I think he sees her as his sister. idk if I think he still sees her that way or not. maybe he does, he does act sometimes a little less sibling-like with her. idk I’m not qualified to make this assessment 😂

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 character discussions #9-1-1 speculations #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #again not qualified to make an assessment on how siblings interact with each other lmao #I grew up not allowed to see my siblings and don't have a relationship with them as a result so I'm just not qualified here lmao

[briinstardust]

They do have a close sibling relationship, but then other times you can tell she acted as buck parent as teenage with certain comments (ie telling him buy cookies, cause he's a guest)

absolutely I agree with you wholeheartedly. You can absolutely tell when Maddie enters guardian mode 3.01 wow. she was full guardian mode with Buck and Buck just knew he was in trouble by the look on her face.

She practically shamed him into buying those cookies lmao

But the Joke’s on Maddie bc

✨Buck’s not a guest at Eddie’s house✨

Honestly one of my favorite Buckley siblings moments is that scene in Buck Actually, where Maddie is like “let’s go back to you stealing a hook and ladder for a hook up.”

the way they just have this conversation so casually is absolutely fantastic, and Buck being like “You told me girls weren’t scary and to go for what I wanted”

The whole thing is just so good.

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 character discussions #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #honestly tho 2.08 is an entire fucking bop #i'm fucking done someone needs to put me to bed bc I keep coming out here making a whole damn clown of myself lmao #honestly tho one of my favorite conversations they have

[briinstardust]

I think they've close but that they dont think they actually tell each alot of bad stuff, that could cause other to feel guilty, ie maddie didnt tell buck about stalking until chimn kinda made her. Like I could buck hiding something from that maddie wasnt there for because he doesnt want her to be upset.

You’re messing with my headcanon that they tell each other everything and I’m feeling a type of way about it 😂

with that being said lmao I think that Maddie would have told Buck I just don’t think she was ready yet. and let's be honest, she wasn’t going to tell Howie either, that was an accident that he found out.  I don’t think Maddie was planning on telling anyone that. I do think that Maddie might have tested the idea with Buck tho. without actually telling him anything. that’s the kind of thing I think they’d have a text convo about.

Buck is so Buck. he keeps shit to himself and like for why I don’t know. someone tell me what is sun sign is. someone, please tell me. the thing about Buck is he’ll keep the secret but he’s not good at not acting like he’s got a secret. that’s Buck’s issue. he don’t have to tell you what it is, but you’ll read it in his body language that he’s keeping something close to his chest. that’s what it is about Buck. he don’t have to blurt the secret out, he’ll hold onto it but his body language will tell you that he’s holding something back. so then you ask him about it, and he might shrug it off and keep acting up, but when he gets comfortable he’ll tell you.

so like I feel like Maddie is similar but like her body language doesn’t give away that she’s holding something close to her chest.

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[briinstardust]

With the secret, I honestly have no clue I think if that clip of buck looking at something with maddies name on the box is todo with secret(he looks sad so guessing not him looking maddies sonogram) Then its todo with a person, cause why him a pic of event he didnt know about and how that be a missing piece? Since he doesn't know and maybe oilder, maybe someone who died? A sibling?. I dont think maddie would lie if they were alive and prevent buck from meeting them

I think that the box has to do with the secret, Buck looks sad, and I think that Buck would have happy tears if it was anything to do with Mango.

I think the secret is definitely about a person. I think the secret is probably something to do with another sibling or some kind of parent. either a birth parent or an adoptive parent. I’ve been leaning toward sibling lately tho.

and I would agree I think whoever the secret is about is possibly deceased. I think that’s something that could make Buck this emotional.

I really don’t see Maddie keeping someone from Buck like at all. unless there’s like trauma involved you know what I mean. and even then, I don’t think she would have kept it from Buck for this long if there was trauma involved.

I think that the box has to do with the secret, Buck looks sad, and I think that Buck would have happy tears if it was anything to do with Mango.

I think the secret is definitely about a person. I think the secret is probably something to do with another sibling or some kind of parent. either a birth parent or an adoptive parent. I’ve been leaning toward sibling lately tho.

and I would agree I think whoever the secret is about is possibly deceased. I think that’s something that could make Buck this emotional.

I really don’t see Maddie keeping someone from Buck like at all. unless there’s like trauma involved you know what I mean. and even then, I don’t think she would have kept it from Buck for this long if there was trauma involved.

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[briinstardust]

I think either the buckleys tell buck at dinner etc and clip of him with maddies box is next day once he calmed down process it all. Or with maddie trying to protect him from the secret/their parents(they always protect each other but she thought they spoke in season 2 and wasnt worried) so maybe they tell maddie they're gonna tell buck while they're visiting. So she trying to decide if she should let them or if it would be better coming from her because she loves and want to protective him

Hold the door.

in the dinner scene, Buck is wearing a grey button-up looking fine as fuck out here. anyway. when he’s having whatever altercation that is with we can assume his parents, he’s wearing something else entirely. So unless Buck is changing in the middle of dinner. he’s getting upset at a different time. and the scene with the box Buck is wearing something completely different again. so these are three completely different interactions that we’re seeing. 

but again we don’t know who Buck’s getting upset with, we’re assuming it’s his parents, and if it is it has to be a different day, you know what I’m saying. Buck’s getting upset with this box and in this scene with Maddie at a completely different time. but like I guess Buck could be out here changing his outfit 3 times in one day idk. but anyways.

Maddie could absolutely be trying to cushion the blow if you will. and knowing the news will come better from her, decide to tell Buck whatever the secret is, even tho it’s not her responsibility to do so...

we absolutely do not know the reason why they’re visiting so it could have something to do with the secret, or the secret could just be a result of the visit? we don’t know yet.

#Bri Screams #anon #911 spoilers #9-1-1 speculations #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #I thought the same thing about the dinner thing but I checked it out the other day 3 different outfits #don't judge me i ain't got nothing better to do than sit at home and speculate about this show okay #3 different outfits #now while I think Buck likes being well dressed he don't strike me as the 'changing for dessert' type #now that I've acted up all over this ask and in the tags bye

[briinstardust]

If the woman pet and it adoption, then the timing is coincidence, and it to do maddie ie maybe her pregnancy is making her feel guilty and wonder herself about buck brith mom. Or it maddie/baby has rare blood type buck offers his but they dont match. But les be honest, buck has a distinctive birthmark, and has been on news alot it probably wouldn't be hard for her to find him

okay, so he gets a pet. I’m here for this.Let's ride the train, is it a cat or a dog? or something else entirely? lmao maybe he gets a domesticated fox or something, which is still a dog lmao and kind of on-brand for Buck to get a non-traditional pet lmao. what’s he get?

dear fucking god if they give this baby any kind of drama like that my ass is getting on a fucking plane and going down to Fox studios and demanding a fucking rewrite. demanding.

okay so question then. do we also think Maddie is adopted? Could they both be adopted? could they both be adopted from the same biological mother?  could they both have different fathers? could they both have the same parents? but they were both adopted into the same family. like the Buckley’s first adopted Maddie. then the family Maddie came from came up pregnant again, and they for whatever reasons needed to give their second baby up for adoption, and the Buckley’s again adopted their second child?

okay so do we think if Buck knows he’s adopted, do we think Buck knows who his birth mom is? or does he not know? Maybe he never looked her up? eh, that’s out of character for Buck.  okay, so let's say he looks her up. does he ever make contact with her? or does he just know who she is and like checks out her Facebook account every couple of weeks or something? or does he go all in and make contact with her? part of me thinks that Buck would just lay low if he ever found out, and not make contact with her.

so okay since we’re here. let’s say Buck knows he’s adopted. he knows who his birth mom is. he’s never contacted her before, but he knows who she is. Maddie tells Buck that he’s adopted and Buck is all “I know, my birth mom is [whoever]” and Maddie’s like “you knew” and Buck’s like “yeah, but it doesn’t mean anything”. do we think Maddie tries to suggest that Buck make contact with her? and that’s what they have a tiff about? they argue over what’s the best thing for Buck to do considering this now?

or maybe it’s the other way around and Buck wants to meet her and Maddie says it’s a bad idea?

okay, so let's ride this other train then. Buck’s birth mom shows up out of the blue. does Buck know he’s adopted? or is he defensive AF about it?

so lets say he doesn’t know, this woman is confronting him about being her son,. Buck’s freaking out, and Maddie has to confide that it’s true. is Buck so pissed at Maddie he embraces the possibility of a new mother?

I like to think this is something he has a conversation with his husband about before he goes making rash decisions about but we all know how Evan Buckley is about reacting first and thinking second.

but could this also bring Maddie and Buck closer? could it? even tho he’s upset with her. could it? does he not run to his adoptive mother and use a little bit of restraint. could Maddie and Buck forge something else here?

so the other way we could spin this is Buck knows he’s adopted, but he’s kept that a secret for all these years, from everyone. birth mom shows up. and we’ll apply the same logic from before, he’s looked her up at least, he know exactly who she is. is he giving her a chance to explain herself? or does he want nothing to do with her bc she gave him up? we know Buck could act like that if he wanted. is he doing that?

so let’s say he gives her a chance. He tells Maddie, and wants Maddie to meet her, but bc Maddie is feeling protective of her baby, she’s really not receptive of the woman who gave up her baby?

feels out of character for Maddie maybe? but hormones might make her a little out of character? idk

so lets roll the other way then, He’s not giving her a chance, and Maddie thinks he should. they get into a fight over. Maddie thinks Buck should at least listen to what she has to say and Buck pulls the whole “I've known for however many years if I really wanted to get to known her I could have.” and then Maddie has feelings about being a mother, and Maddie goes to meet her on her own?

I feel like there was another direction I wanted to take this train but this post got very long so maybe we’ll roll it in another post lmao

#Bri Screams #anon #9-1-1 speculations #9-1-1 spoilers #911 spoilers #The Evan Buckley Saga continues #The Maddie Buckley Saga continues #The Buckley Siblings Saga continues #this got very long... sorry but not really lmao #we went on a lot of train rides here guys #keep giving me the essay questions they're honestly my faves bc I get to think deeply about these characters lmao #long post #text post #long text post