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rahit02 · 7 months
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"There’s only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the Prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. … All religious are not alike. Can you imagine if they did ‘The Book of Islam’? Could they do that? There’s only one religion that threatens violence and carries it out for things like that. … Now, obviously, most Muslim people are not terrorists. But ask most Muslim people in the world — if you insult the Prophet, do you have what’s coming to you? It’s more than just a fringe element." -- Bill Maher
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Thought unlocked: that one priest standing in front of the army in the first scene with Boyd's promotion, Ives' two personas being a priest and then a colonel, AND Fort Spencer having first been a mission that the army "inherited" symbolize the involvement of religion in American imperialism. Manifest Destiny after all is a Mission Sent From The Lord Jesus
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mondoreb · 11 months
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luckycheesefoodie321 · 10 months
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Yknow what I appreciate about the big plot twist reveal scene in Fourth Wing?? (SPOILERS)
After the initial fallout where Violet is pissed off thinking they’d betrayed the country, and everyone is wary of THAT none of them jump to the usual dramatics of “please hear me out” and “she’s a threat now that she knows!”
The only times Violet really got aggressive was when Liam and Xaden tried to reach out and touch her. And they’re the only ones who really seemed concerned, but mostly on a personal level.
After that, everyone kept their distance and Violet was pissed but calm.
After they covered that venin exist, all the others were like “peace out this on Xaden to explain”
And like yeah at one point Xaden has to order them all away bc she had her zappy powers going and very little control over them given her emotional well-being. But they also didn’t say much to convince Xaden she was a lost cause.
Which shows a lot about how much faith they have in Violet. They could consider her a threat to their operation who needs to be eliminated because of how defensive she’s being.
But they know Violet.
She’s easily one of their smartest, shrewdest, and kindest in the quadrant. And of all people, Xaden Riorson fell for her.
Even if she feels personally betrayed by Xaden and Liam, they also must believe to some degree that she’ll believe in them. Understand why they’re doing what they’re doing. She’s someone who has gone out of her way to be understanding of the marked ones, even with her mother being who she is and her own personal trauma from the apostasy/secession.
So at the very least, they can trust in this person they’ve come to know to keep their secret and even go so far as to stand by their side in the war that is still being waged.
Maybe she won’t like Xaden or Liam for a while, which is why Imogen wishes Xaden luck with the explanation. Bc yikes that’s gonna take some work.
But they can trust their comrade. They can trust their fellow rider, Violet. Who has proved time and again what kind of person she is.
Someone they can trust to see their side.
So yeah I thought that was a nice touch.
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The radioactive levels of misogyny have been present with regards to Lotus since 2013, and it was... an experience to watch it play out in real time. At first, it was largely imperceptible. Just people complaining about having an "annoying" (re: female) mission director. But the moment Apostasy: Prologue happened, it was like they smelled blood in the water. They finally had ''proof''— ''justification''— for their baseless hatred of Lotus (despite the fact that it was pretty clear that she had not left entirely of her own free will).
Even before then in Natah, the quest where Lotus explicitly declares that she *was* Natah, Hunhow's daughter, until she "destroyed" that part of her and chose to become the Lotus, ''the Mother'', to the children she couldn't bear to kill, people were using the fact that she wasn't human as justification to hate and distrust her, despite the narrative never producing anything concrete to back this distrust up, until Apostasy: Prologue (and even then, it was clear some form of manipulation by Ballas was at play in this prologue). In fact, people were saying things like Lotus can't be trusted *because* she chose compassion over completing her original mission, and the fact the Tenno are still alive is proof she isn't fit to lead. HELLO?????
But from Apostasy: Prologue, it all went downhill. If you were saying things like:
''I don't think Lotus chose to leave on her own accord. I think Ballas did something to her, maybe under the false belief that she was Archimedean Margulis. Maybe she secretly is, I don't know. But on the slim chance that she did leave willingly, what if it was to protect us. He is an Orokin Executor after all, and the first time he makes an in-game appearance, he displays some sort of Void ability. Who knows what he's capable of. Why is it that you guys gave Teshin all the grace in the world when he was working under the command of the Twin Queens, but Lotus is immediately deemed a traitor who needs to die by your blade for being abducted??''
you were in the minority.
And then The Sacrifice happened. And is was SO over. By that point, there were like 17 Lotus defenders left. The majority of the fan base was actually, excitedly, waiting for the opportunity to take out the Sentients and to kill Lotus with them. No amount of arguing that ''The Jovian Concord (monologue), Operation: Orphix Venom (hidden message), and Erra (cinematic) only make narrative sense if Lotus is being brainwashed'' was going to get through to them. Because for far too many, it was never about whether Lotus was actually on our side or not. It was never about where her loyalties and allegiance lied. And despite what so many said, it wasn't about her betrayal (because it wasn't a betrayal, and it was clear by this point that she was being used. she even called out for help!). All of it was just a thinly-veiled excuse for them to finally be able to say, "tbh I never liked that we had a female mission commander. And I hope we get to kill her for her betrayal and that we get someone new like Teshin. I'd even take Ordis, as annoying as he is," out loud. (I wish I were making this example up and I wish I had only seen it said once or twice)
So when The New War happens, and there is no confrontation with Lotus, only the confirmation that Lotus was indeed being manipulated and used as a scapegoat, only for Ballas to steal the last of her life force and consign her to the Void, MANY people felt cheated. Because they'd convinced themselves (and allowed themselves to be convinced by Chimera: Prologue) that Lotus was the villain despite all the evidence to the contrary. They went in to the quest expecting a no holds barred fight with Lotus that would end in her death as best case scenario, with the option to kill or spare her via the alignment choice system being the 'most likely outcome'.
And so, countless forum threads were made complaining about how Lotus wasn't the big bad who could be killed (ignoring that she *was* killed. this was a HUGE part of the quest. she died and nearly withered away into incorporeal non-existence before the first shard stabilized her). The actual complaint, of course, was that *they* didn't get to kill her. Lotus didn't deserve this treatment. Even when there was doubt as to where her story was going, she was never afforded the grace that other characters got. Her narrative was often just outright ignored, because ''all that matters is that she betrayed me, and no one betrays me and lives''.
We're past that era now i think, but it was demonstrably not a fun time to be a Lotus fan in. But in the end, we were right! And space mom is back home and safe
WOW. alright. Something something disappointed but not surprised, I can pretend to be astonished here but I'm not. Fandom misogyny knows no fuckin bounds and being a lesbian with no interest in male characters just makes this fact extremely apparent.
Man, so this is why the Lotus tags are so unpopulated. When I finished the story quests looking for fanart/fanfic, through naive lenses I was like "this game was released in 2013 right? And Lotus is so important, she's mission commander, she's driving the story, she's a cute space mom... That's so cool. There's gotta be good Lotus content everywhere! ^_^"
But nah. Fandom misogyny. The love goes to the men, while the female characters are neglected. Never shown grace, given the most bad faith interpretations possible, filtered down to shallow one-dimensional personalities... It's just a fandom staple.
So. Knowing that the Lotus is a main character who is here to stay, and knowing that her voice actor Rebecca Ford is currently Warframe's CREATIVE DIRECTOR (that role is not a small thing like hoooly shit)... It's kind of a justice, right? A heartwarming kind of justice, not really a tale of grabbing disbelievers by the neck and wringing them out, but more of simply standing proud. Standing for what you believe in, the story you want to tell, and not buckling to the backlash you undoubtedly will encounter.
It's just mind-blowing, honestly. The Lotus as a character is meaningful not just within her game's vacuum, but in such a meta sense as well. As someone who started being involved in the gaming community during the time when Max Caulfield was considered a revolutionary female protagonist, I think it's insane that we have the Lotus.
What the Lotus stands for easily skyrockets her into the "most important female characters in gaming" hall of fame. She is incredible.
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socialcryptidmoment · 5 months
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In 40k, there is a thematic throughline that I am very fond of. It is the idea that no matter the person, no matter the faction, there truly is no agency. Everyone is tied in irrevocable ways to the narrative. Even when you take out the meta level of that, it's present.
Take the Imperium for example. Everything they do is a mockery, a simulacrum of that which came before it. They are an empire not in decline but in constant regurgitation. How can you collapse when your birth and death is repeated over and over and over ad nauseam. The Horus Heresy -> the Age of Apostasy -> the Badab War -> the 13th Black Crusade. The aeldari -> the Imperium -> the T'au Empire. The same story told repeatedly. The names change. The exact details change. The substance isn't the same either but its reminiscent. It is a memory that refuses the die. It's the story you can't stop rewriting.
But what about the Necrons? They have the large setting defining war but its what comes from it. There was no "the dark gods (read audience) require it." The Necrons are the active faction and yet in there lies the tragedy. Unlike the Emperor who's hand was forced into choosing undeath the Necrons did so willingly and everything that has followed is nothing if not of their own volition.
Your Overlord. Yes, your little model on the table leading your army. He chose to be there. He has immortality, time is not an enemy to attempt to escape but simply something you have an infinite amount of. Your Overlord can spend his time doing anything and his has chosen to reclaim former glory as the facsimile of a person. Glory, empire, it is all should be meaningless to someone who can simply just exist perpetually. But its not.
The Necron existence is defined by regret. Every choice is a something to hate yourself for. How could you walk into the furnaces of biotransference? How could you go to into endless sleep and let everything around you corrode? How could you spend your time being so.. useless?
I love the Necrons because they carry with them a dread I can not help but relate to. They are gifted with just enough agency to be unable to blame anyone but themselves.
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bestworstcase · 4 months
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i guess there is always the question of to what extent the fractal-ozlem pattern will hold true for every endgame romantic pairing and the secondary question of whether the tension between salem and ozpin in jaune's character will eventuate as a return to form (salem) or as transformation (ozma).
but for what it's worth
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<- i find this a lot more persuasive than the weiss developments in V9
it's a bit thorny all around. by design. i think he's probably intended to be puzzling. the simplest answer is jaune ecloses as the hero and saves cinder but that coexists uneasily with what's going on with cinder and salem, to say the least. not to mention the thematic treatment of fairytale heroism.
he did save neo, so there's that.
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jeanne d'arc heard the voices of saints and angels guiding her way. i suppose there's an argument to be made for the recording pyrrha left him, but given the importance of salem's piety and apostasy, jaune's distinct lack of religiosity or… belief in anything greater than himself is worth reconsidering maybe. why is he here? he cheated his way into beacon just to prove to his family that he was worth something. now he's just here for his friends. what becomes of salem if she's faithless? if she's cynical?
salem is not a cynic. she's a shattered idealist. there will be no victory in strength. mankind is strong, wise, and resourceful, born into an unforgiving world and yet even the smallest spark of hope is enough to ignite change. passion and ingenuity and resourcefulness. hope breathes fire into the hearts of the weary. hope is mankind's greatest strength. your faith in mankind was not misplaced. it's important not to lose sight of what drives us: love, justice, reverence… and so we must press on.
take all that away from her. what is left?
even cinder believes in something, in destiny as a monster to fight. "i refuse to starve."
she poses a thematic challenge to jaune's cynicism in that she puts a spear through weiss schnee, her own personal symbol of everything she's fighting against, in direct response to jaune telling her nothing matters to him except that his friends live. and then he manifests his semblance. and then cinder murders penny and he can't save her and it's his sword covered in her blood. and now he has to live with that forever.
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the tree is the tower. the lovable idiot stuck in the tree. that tree is death. the reason jaune is so narratively weird is he's anti-theme salem. in cheating his way into beacon he put himself in her tower.
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jeanne d'arc was instrumental in charles vii's campaign to push the british out of france. vacuo just had a short-lived civil war instigated by isolationist monarchists claiming descent from vacuo's royal line, one of whom was top of her class at shade and "would have been a fantastic huntress" if she hadn't dropped out. and her semblance is the inverse of jaune's and she mirrors him in a lot of ways. she might be the summer maiden.
i am so far out on a limb here but
…huh.
the anti-theme salem's ozma ii would be the maiden of destruction.
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arachnostalgiac · 1 year
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Awakening/Vor’s Prize:  You’re a Tenno and you wield a Waframe.  Don’t know what those words mean, that’s great, you won’t for like a billion quests.  Some guy puts bad bling on you.  You meet your new mom and your new son.  Get ready to learn a lot of vocabulary words.
Saya’s Vigil:  oh boy your husband sounds great i bet he’s not just like.  fifty feet away from you or anything.
Vow Solaris:  AND WE ALL LIFT.  AND WE’RE ALL ADRIFT TOGETHER, TOGETHER.
Once Awake:  You aren’t alone.  There’s bugs.
The Archwing:  What the fuck is Tellurium
Stolen Dreams:  You will hear more vocabulary words.  No one knows how they’re pronounced, not even the voice actors, this is fine.
The New Strange:  cephalon simaris is a little jerk who doesn’t understand personal space and tried to steal my son
Natah:  get ready to meet your new shitty grandpa.  also, learn about your mom.  your weird uncle is here, too.
The Second Dream:  congratulations, you are a haunted child.  the grandchild your grandpa likes better shows up.  more mom lore.  suddenly, the moon.
The War Within:  weird uncle lore.  you may be wondering ‘how bad could the orokin be’.  well.  i have good news.  be prepared to find out.  also, there’s a worm.  there’s a couple worms.
Chains of Harrow:  it’s time to meet your creepypasta-est brother.  also uh.  maybe learn that your original mom wasn’t the best sometimes.
Apostasy Prologue:  meet your shitty stepdad.  welcome to a momless existence.
The Sacrifice:  well we’re a good ways in and it’s finally time to learn what a warframe is.  the answer:  creepy and wet.  a cool guy is here, but watch out for evil stepdad and evil mom.
Prelude to War:  huh.  that can’t be good.  also there’s a shitty uncle too.
The New War:  oh boy this one’s a lot.  two of them.  your son gets a body.  get ready to play a different game for a while and also.  be sad about songs.  beat up your stepdad.  there’s a snake.  the space devil’s here.
Angels of the Zariman:  remember where you met the space devil?  it’s haunted.
Veilbreaker:  MY BOY.
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I wonder how it is for Seldarine Drow in the Underdark. I imagine most would stay away from Menzoberannzan or any of the other Lolth cities if they can.
Seldarine drow / Lolth-sworn drow concept introduced in BG3 is a huge oversimplification, but yes - generally, drow who do not follow Lolth avoid heavily Lolth-oriented cities. Visiting Menzoberranzan as a drow who does not worship Lolth would be a risky business, since open worship of any other deity is forbidden there.
On the other hand, servants of other divine powers sometimes infiltrate cities of Lolth-sworn drow. For example, Jhelnae Horlbar, a noble from House Horlbar from Menzoberranzan, was secretly a follower of Eilistraee - and she was officially priestess of Lolth and the First Priestess of her House! This discovery started a war between several noble houses.
In every major city of Lolth-sworn drow, there are most likely followers of Eilistraee, Vhaeraun and other drow gods who work undercover - to gather information, or to guide and support new followers, for example.
In Rilauven, followers of Vhaeraun ultimately gained so much power that they managed to overthrow matriarchy of Lolth - although later, drow from Rilauven began to worry that Menzoberranyr drow will send their army and destroy them one day, to punish them for apostasy.
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Warframe OC Ask Game! (Quest edition!)
Send an OC(s) + a quest name, and I'll respond with an answer, or something inspired by the question/quest!
(Warframe has a lot of quests, so prompts under the cut.)
Awakening: For Tenno: What was their first Warframe? For Warframes: What is their earliest memory? For Non-Tenno: How have they dealt with the sudden return of the Tenno?
Vor's Prize: For Tenno: How did they handle their first mission? How has their approach changed since they first awoke from cryo-sleep? For Warframes: How did they initially react to being connected to a Tenno? Have they had previous Operators before their current one? For Non-Tenno: Do they have a favorite possession? How did they come to have it? Why is it important to them?
Saya's Vigil: For Tenno: How often do they take on bounties? Which faction do they enjoy bounties from the most? For Warframes: Did they have any partners, lovers, or close friends before becoming a warframe? How well do they handle emotional intimacy? For Non-Tenno: Have they ever been to Cetus before? What do they think of the local legends- The Unum, Eidolons, and the like?
Once Awake: For Tenno: How do they feel about working with an Infested being? For Warframes: How do they feel about being Infested? What are their thoughts on the Helminth? Do they feel any connection to the Infested Hive Mind? For Non-Tenno: What are your character's thoughts on the Infestation? Have they ever seen it in-person before?
Heart of Deimos: For Tenno and Warframes: What are their thoughts on the Entrati Family and their squabbles? For Non-Tenno: Has your character ever been to Deimos? Are they the type to take great risks if it could mean great reward?
The Archwing: Where is your character's favorite place in the Origin System? How often do they travel? What is their favorite form of travel?
Natah: For Tenno: How did they react to discovering Natah? Did it change the way they saw the Lotus? For Warframes and Non-Tenno: Does your character have any dark or embarrassing secrets?
The Second Dream: For Tenno: How did they react to awakening from the Second Dream? Did they remember that they were themselves, or did they think that they were their warframe? For Warframes: How did their Tenno awakening from the Second Dream affect them? Was it a good experience, or a bad one? For Non-Tenno: Were they always comfortable with themselves? If so, what brings them confidence? If not, what are their insecurities?
Rising Tide: For Tenno and Warframes: What do they remember from the Old War? For Non-Tenno: Have they ever been on a Railjack before? Can they pilot a ship?
The War Within: Given the chance, would your character ever perform Continuity? If yes, how picky would they be with their new body? If not, how do they deal with their own mortality?
Chains of Harrow: For Tenno: How did they react to the Man in the Wall upon seeing him for the first time? Has that reaction changed at all over time? For Warframes: What keeps them loyal to their Tenno? Does their Infested nature ever surface? For Non-Tenno: What's something that haunts them?
Apostasy Prologue: For Tenno: How did they take the Lotus' abandonment? How did they deal with the void in power that she left? Who did they blame? For Warframes: How did they react to Ballas still being alive? How did they support their Operator during this time? For Non-Tenno: Who would they consider to be their enemy? Why?
The Sacrifice: What does family mean to your character? Do they have a family- biological or otherwise?
Prelude to War: Is your character easily manipulated? What would it take to be swayed from their own values by others?
Chimera Prologue: Does your character ever feel othered by society? If so, how do they deal with it?
Erra: For Tenno and Warframes: What are their thoughts on The Lotus' family? Would they willingly work with them? For Non-Tenno: Have they ever seen a Sentient before? How did they react?
The Maker: How does your character view the Orokin? Positively? Negatively? Why?
The New War: For Drifters: Where were they during Narmer's invasion? Were they ever captured? If not, how did they stay out of Narmer's sight? For Operators: How did they react to discovering their Drifter counterpart? Where were they during Narmer's invasion? For Warframes: Would they ever willingly work with their Tenno's Operator/Drifter counterpart? Why or why not? For Non-Tenno: What is a comforting lie your character indulges in? Were they veiled during the War? How did Narmer affect their lives?
Angels of the Zariman: How does your character deal with guilt? What do they do when experiencing painful emotions?
Whispers in the Walls: What is your character's perspective on the Void?
A Man of Few Words: Who is your character's "ride-or-die" ally? Do they make friends easily, or tend to be distant?
Vox Solaris: Has your character been to Fortuna? What are their thoughts and feelings towards Solaris United?
The Waverider: Is there anyone your character looks up to? Who- or what- inspires them?
The Deadlock Protocol: Does your character have any connection to their biological family?
Howl of the Kubrow: Does your character have any pets? Do they like animals?
Stolen Dreams: How would your character feel about working with someone typically considered to be an enemy? Who- or which factions- do they trust the most?
The New Strange: How does your character approach an unfamiliar subject? Under what conditions do they learn best?
The Limbo Theorem: What is your character passionate about? What skills are they best at?
Octavia's Anthem: What kind of music does your character enjoy? Do they play an instrument or sing?
Sands of Inaros: How much of their childhood do they remember? Is there an event from their childhood that impacts who they are today?
The Silver Grove: How does your character's conscience- or lack thereof- affect their choices? How loyal are they to their moral compass?
Patient Zero: How altruistic is your character? Would they go out of their way to help someone, even if they didn't deserve it?
The Jordas Precept: For Tenno and Warframes: What is their perspective on the large amounts of killing required in their line of work? Do they feel guilty at all? For Non-Tenno: Has your character ever been to a Tenno relay? If so, what were their initial impressions?
Hidden Messages: For Tenno and Warframes: How loyal are they to The Lotus? For Non-Tenno: What do they do to relax?
The Glast Gambit: How does your character react to fame? Do they enjoy it, or avoid the spotlight?
Mask of the Revenant: Does your character celebrate Naberus? If so, what could they be found doing on Naberus Night?
Call of the Tempestarii: Is your character superstitious or spiritual at all? Do they believe in ghosts?
Veilbreaker: For Tenno and Warframes: Have they ever faced an Archon before? What was their experience like? Did they have back-up, or were they alone? For Non-Tenno: What kinds of freedom are most important to your character?
The Duviri Paradox: For Drifters: What was their experience in Duviri like? If they were a courtier, what would their Spiral be, and what traits would it take on? For Operators: How would they react to swapping places with the Drifter? Would they enjoy Duviri? Why or why not? For Warframes: Have they ever been to the Undercroft? Does fighting in the Void feel any different from fighting in the Origin System? For Non-Tenno: Do stories of the Tenno's deeds- both now and during the Old War- fill them with hope, or dread?
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Analyzing the Timeline of the Tenno Schools
-- SPOILERS AHEAD! --
There isn't a lot of concrete information that Digital Extremes has released about the Tenno Schools (or "Ways") in Warframe. Here is what I know so far (as best I can w/ help from the Warframe Wiki):
Tenno Schools are martial arts disciplines. A School instructs a Tenno in a specific style of fighting, focused on harnessing Tenno Void powers in unique ways.
There is no mechanical restriction of Warframes or weapons for any School; a disciple of any Way may use any tools at their disposal.
The five Focus Schools are: Madurai, Vazarin, Naramon, Unairu, and Zenurik. Training in these Ways unlocks new Void abilities for the Tenno, as well as improvements to pre-existing Void powers. This training also unlocks various synergies between the Tenno and their Warframe, allowing each to improve the other.
The Rough Timeline of Events Preceding the Beginning of Warframe (pre-Vor's Prize quest)
Albrecht Entradi creates the Reliquary Drive, enabling spacecraft to make faster-than-light Void Jumps to arbitrary locations in space. The player reveals this history by reaching max rank with the Necraloid Syndicate. The creation of the Reliquary Drive inspires the Orokin Empire to embark on a project to colonize the nearby Tau solar system.
The Orokin Empire send terraforming robots to the Tau System, ahead of their primary human-carrying ark: the Zariman Ten Zero.
The terraforming robots defected while terraforming the Tau System, becoming the Sentients.
The Orokin Empire develop the Warframes using the Infestation. Ballas explains in his Vitruvian records during The Sacrifice quest that he created the Warframes to fight the Sentients, because the Sentients could control the combat robots the Orokin Empire would have otherwise used to fight the Sentient invasion.
The Zariman Ten Zero fails its Void Jump catastrophically. During The War Within quest, the Grineer Queen and the player's Tenno narrate the events of the Zariman Ten Zero incident: the adults were driven violently insane, and the children killed them to survive, ultimately leaving only the children alive on the Zariman. These children, who had been changed by their exposure to the Void, are now known as the Tenno.
Margulis prevents the Orokin Empire from killing the Tenno. In The Apostasy Prologue quest, the Lotus says that Margulis worked with and studied the Tenno (likely healing their trauma from the Zariman Ten Zero incident).
Margulis was killed by Ballas. Her work with the Tenno and their void-based abilities was used to develop the Transference process.
Ballas used the Tenno and Transference to control the Warframes.
The Sentients invade the Origin System. The Tenno, Warframes, and the Lotus fought the Sentient invasion known now as the Old War.
During The Prelude To War quest we see a memory of the Old War, where the Lotus confronts Erra on Lua with six Tenno by her side. At this time, the Tenno can be seen producing Void Beams without Amps. This void attack appears to be the same Void Beam as from Transcendence (the Operator's primary attack pre-The War Within quest).
According to the Shadow Stalker's Codex entry, after the Old War had concluded and the Sentients were defeated, the Orokin Empire held a system-wide victory ceremony in honor of the Tenno. During this ceremony, the Tenno simultaneously assassinated the Orokin leadership across the Origin System, toppling the Empire.
Note that the above timeline intentionally avoids talking about the order of events surrounding the Lotus. I don't believe straightening out her complicated timeline is critically necessary for talking about the Tenno Schools.
Evidence for pre-Old War Tenno Schools
I could not find any clear textual evidence of Tenno Schools existing simultaneously with the Orokin Empire, as of 2023.
It is possible that the five Focus Schools somehow evolved from pre-existing fighting styles which pre-date the existence of the Tenno. The Dax may have a martial tradition involving five methods of combat which was passed down to the Tenno, though there is no evidence to support this. It is also possible that an Orokin-era civilization or society had a spiritual or martial tradition which centered five methods of being, although that is purely speculation.
Evidence for post-Old War Tenno Schools
This is where all of the knowledge of the Tenno Schools in Warframe comes from, as of 2023.
The Tenno Schools become available after The Second Dream quest is completed. This quest reveals that the Tenno are children with Void abilities, Operators of the Warframes and not the Warframes themselves. This revelation opens up the Tenno Schools immediately. It is unclear if the Tenno know the Ways of these Schools innately. There is no direct evidence to suggest the Tenno learn of these Schools through some off-screen method.
A player can switch between the Ways of each School at will. When a Tenno changes Ways, they lose all of the abilities granted to them from their previous Way. The only exception to this is when you "unbind" certain abilities from the School, allowing your Tenno to keep the unbound power regardless of which Way they are currently practicing.
This implies that the Schools are like martial arts schools: only a master of one style of fighting can benefit from trying to mix-and-match with other styles on the fly. That said, there is nothing stopping anyone from practicing many disciplines; just fight with discipline at a time for maximum effectiveness. Note that there is no hard evidence in the game to suggest that Tenno exclusively have Void powers from only one Focus School. It would seem that any Tenno can have powers from any School, so long as they train in the proper Ways.
Tenno Clan Dojos have many tools for combat training, and even a specific room for sparring. It is unknown if the Tenno Dojos act as a major training ground or place of learning for the Tenno Schools in-universe.
I have found no evidence for Tenno-aligned humans without Void powers practicing the Ways of the Focus Schools.
I have found no evidence to suggest that The Man In The Wall has any influence over the existence or Ways of the Tenno Schools, or any influence over the specifics of how Void powers manifest.
Conclusion
Based on the evidence I have gathered, it seems as though the Tenno Schools are a post-Orokin-Empire creation. It is unlikely that the Tenno Schools were adopted from a separate pre-existing culture. Two options for the genesis of the five Focus Schools are supported by the text:
One or several of the earliest Tenno to awaken from cryosleep were the ones responsible for creating the five Focus Schools. The Void powers, abilities, and synergies are split between the Schools because of differences in combat philosophy first and foremost. Secondarily, it may be difficult for an adolescent to manifest or control all of the Void abilities from all of the Schools at once, and separating them into smaller practices keeps things manageable.
Something inherent to the nature of the Void separates the powers and abilities of the Tenno into five groups. The philosophies and combat styles of the schools follow from how the powers cluster, or perhaps the headspace a Tenno needs to be in to access that cluster of abilities.
Nothing about the Tenno Schools prevents their use by Tenno who do not have the ability to perform Transference unassisted. In addition, a Tenno School does not require the use of an Amp. Because of these two factors, Tenno Schools could have been active during the Orokin Empire era. It's possible that the Tenno Schools originate from techniques (therapeutic or supernatural) developed by Margulis during her time working with the children of the Zariman, though there is no evidence to support this theory.
Additional thoughts under the cut!
Non-Focus Tenno Schools
While I posited that such a thing could exist, there isn't a lot of evidence for non-Focus Tenno Schools. Below is a list of things which could be or could have been Tenno Schools separate from a Focus, depending on your interpretation:
"The Old Ways": A mysterious and nondescript collection of Tenno fighting techniques which seem to date back to the time of the Orokin Empire. Teshin is fond of speaking of "the Old Ways" when training Tenno, and is likely trying to impart lost knowledge of those "Ways" onto the Tenno. The flavor text in the Nikana mentions the Old Ways. The flavor text of the Glaive also mentions "dating back to the first Tenno", connecting to the Nightwave mission "The Old Ways".
The Stalker and his Acolytes: Neither the players nor the Stalker himself is sure if the Stalker and/or his Acolytes are Tenno. The Stalker is described in his Codex entry as holding the rank of "Guardian" during the Orokin Empire, and is never identified as a Tenno or even as a Warframe. Although neither the Stalker nor his Acolytes use any void powers, if they are Tenno their general immunity to Warframe abilities and unusual powers could be indicative of a Tenno School unique to them.
Non-School Tenno Organizations
Tenno Schools are fighting disciplines. They characterize what techniques a Tenno uses to fight, but not why they fight or what causes they fight for. A Tenno Clan, for example, is not a Tenno School. The Clan is made up of many Tenno, whom may all individually practice combat styles from one or several Schools. Below is a list of things which very likely aren't Tenno Schools:
The Six Faction Syndicates: Steel Meridian, Arbiters of Hexis, Cephalon Suda, The Perrin Sequence, Red Veil, and New Loka. They may be major political or philosophical groups within modern Tenno society, and they even have their own weapons, but they do not teach combat methodology.
The "exclusive order of Tenno assassins" mentioned in the flavor text of the Karyst.
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goldkirk · 7 months
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tw for end of the world/apocalypse fears and such
So anyway with new Israel-Hamas news AND American politics AND the ongoing Russia stuff, my latent “here are some of the signs of the coming-soon Three Days of Darkness, or the not-quite-end-times pre-end times, OR the actual end times” programming has arisen like a sleeper agent, and I’m just shouting “back, back!” while swiping at it with a broom
(This is extra frustrating because my rational brain is trying to focus on the humanitarian horrors and the realistic facts of things while the rest of my brain wants to wallow in selfish “AAHHHHH APOCALYPSE END TIMES FEAR AAAAAAAH” and I’m like Sit Down this is not about me Jesus Christ self. But deprogramming takes a long time and a lot of brain rewiring so I will try to donate to some aid groups and just Do My Best to rewire my neurons over time)
me: Our Lady said at Garabandal that the Great Warning and the Illumination of Conscience come sometime after—and maybe I’ve already been one of the ones to fall prey to the Antichrist’s solution to my problems being apostasy from Truth—the signs are only visible to those who have the eyes to see them and know what they’re looking for—nations will wage war and we’ve already had the explosion in Marian apparitions around the world, and they SAID most people would ignore the signs—they SAID it would be ultimate conflict in Israel and that Russia would rise up and wage war on the nations if it hadn’t been able to be fully converted through the power of the roasary, and China is banding together with Russia like was warned about years ago—
me, tiredly swinging a broom at my brain: girl you sound like a Qanon truther
(to anyone who is a practicing devout Roman Catholic and has problems with what I just typed out—yes I KNOW these aren’t in order and I KNOW not all of these are approved prophecies from official Church Mystics I KNOW. I’m not going for accuracy here I’m going for “represent a fraction of the swirling and out-of-order thoughts ping-ponging through my brain” okay. Go back to Catholic Fox News EWTN and leave me alone.)
Anyway. Going to read Dawkins and play with my dog and breathe and meditate and be so normal about this
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📻🎶 H/D WIRELESS 2023 - WEEKLY WRAP-UP #3
The third week of posting has come to an end! Enjoy catching up with this week's selection of wonderful works. 
There's a work for everyone in this fest (and if you haven't found what you're looking for yet, we're far from done with posting).
As always you can listen to the prompted songs for the works we post on two playlists:  
Click here for Spotify (many thanks to @evaeleanor for helping us out there) ❤️
And here for the YouTube playlist.
Please enjoy this week’s entries below the cut:
🎶 H/D Wireless Art 🎶
📻 Your Heart's a Mess [G, Pencil & Copic markers]
🎵 Song Prompt: 'Hearts A Mess' by 'Gotye' 🎵 Summary: Hogwarts eighth year. Malfoy, visibly scarred (from Sectumsempra? from the war? from his treatment by the Ministry?) and visibly heavy-hearted (from regret? from his father's imprisonment? from how the other students torment him?) has driven Harry to distraction. It's 6th year all over again: he was rapidly becoming obsessed with Draco Malfoy. How he wishes the feeling was mutual.
🎶 H/D Wireless Fic and Art 🎶
📻 Waking Up Slow [E, 21,886, Digital Art]
🎵 Song Prompt: 'The Christmas Song' by 'The Raveonettes' 🎵 Summary: 'Twas the night before Christmas, although it’s July, Draco’s a shopkeeper, no-one knows why, There’s hiking and witch caves, freak snowfalls and more, Bad Christmas jumpers, nosy neighbours galore, Narcissa’s here too, but… something’s amiss, And what’s in those chocolates that’s making them kiss?
🎶 H/D Wireless Fic 🎶
📻 Burst of Love [E, 3,805]
🎵 Song Prompt: Jealous by Nick Jonas 🎵 Summary: The year after the War is both the worst and best one in Harry and Draco's lives. Draco somehow becomes one of the most requested influencer on Instagram, Harry is finally free and discovers he has quite...a passion inside himself. We all know how this is going to end.
📻 Rich Friend [E, 1,130]
🎵 Song Prompt: Rich Friends by Portugal. The Man 🎵 Summary: As far as Harry can tell, Draco Malfoy is still rich as hell. He’s just not a wizard anymore. Featuring: Draco Malfoy trying to make it as a Muggle pop star, Harry Potter as our confused and horny hero, bad driving, good music, and the mysterious magic of falling for someone.
📻 Seven Days, Seven Memories [E, 25,668]
🎵 Song Prompt: Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want by The Smiths 🎵 Summary: In a universe somewhere, deep down in the Department of Mysteries, behind Door 13, Unspeakable Draco Malfoy, can be usually found. Except Malfoy is nowhere to be found when Harry goes looking for him. What he finds instead is a Pensieve and a box full of memories
📻 so scarlet it was [E, 19,932]
🎵 Song Prompt: Maroon - Taylor Swift 🎵 Summary: Draco’s back for his Eighth Year as part of his parole. He’s doing his best not to annoy any war heroes and avoid Harry Potter as if his life depends on it. Too bad Harry has other ideas. 
📻 A Pureblood's Guide to Driving and Apostasy [E, 9,218]
🎵 Song Prompt: I'm On Fire by Bruce Springsteen 🎵 Summary: Draco Malfoy should be happy - he's engaged to a suitable young lady, chosen by his father, and on the way to restoring the family name. Except he isn't happy at all. That is, until Pansy (or is it fate?) brings him to a magical garage where his whole worldview is set on fire.
📻 Snitches & Sitches [T, 4,565]
🎵 Song Prompt: 'Once Upon a December' by 'Liz Callaway' 🎵 Summary: After a Quidditch accident, Harry's life turns upside down when he suffers a case of retrograde amnesia. Surrounded by people and places he should remember, Harry must cope with his slow recovery, all the while feeling like there's something very familiar about the blond with gray eyes who keeps wistfully staring at him.
📻 Can't Get You Out of My Head [E, 26,343]
🎵 Song Prompt: Can't Get You Out of My Head by Kylie Minogue 🎵 Summary: Draco was quite fine with his own company, thank you very much. So, when a potions’ accident left him unable to rid his head of Harry Potter’s infernal internal monologue, Draco was less than thrilled. He was, however, an internationally educated Potioneer; he could find an antidote without having to admit to Potter the access he’d had to his thoughts…actions…personal life…personal time…right?
📻 Sod Off Potter [T, 1,787]
🎵 Song Prompt: Sod Off Potter by Rattlebones 🎵 Summary: So sod off Potter Will you say what you want? Sod off Potter Will you say what you want is me? Potter please ↳ Sod Off Potter - Rattlebones Draco regretted the decision to return to Hogwarts after the war. Why couldn't bloody Potter just leave him alone? It wouldn't be so bad if Draco hadn't been harboring a secret crush on Harry for years.
🎶 H/D Wireless Podfic 🎶
📻 [Podfic] You Are Not Alone [, 1:49:56]
🖋️ Original author: Juh_Nunes 🎵 Song Prompt: Sorry - Halsey 🎵 Summary: Orginal Summary: Draco dreaded going back to Hogwarts after the war. He was sure this would be his worst year yet: the school hated him, the Slytherins have abandoned him, and his dorm was overrun with Gyffindors. There was no way anything good could come out of this mess, right?
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