#again these are gross generalizations

[rustchild]

love your wrestling as a tragedy post. wouldnt life too be a tragedy under this view though.

What defines life and wrestling to me isnt the inherent way that happiness or success will always end, but rather that as humans we have a neverending drive to seek and sacrifice for it that makes our triumphs worth fighting and losing over and over for.

Wrestling often ends in tragedy but the story it tells is of the triumphs, outnumbered by the failures and yet defined by our human nature to persevere, cause there may be no way to win but to leave, but you never truely leave wrestling. And you never truely win life. You just continue to strive for what gives you meaning

if that's how you enjoy wrestling, that's cool! i'm a big tragedy fan, so i'm definitely looking at it through my own lens. there's more than enough wrestling for multiple forms of engagement lol.

I think, for me, the thing that sets wrestling apart from life irt tragedy--other than all of the obvious things--is the fact that in wrestling a. everyone wants the same singular goal, b. only one person can have it at a time, and c. the pursuit of it is generally destructive to the body and mind. in real life, meaning is often found by diversifying your sources of joy, investing in what makes you happy and sharing it with other people. In wrestling, there is one (1) thing that everyone is going for, it probably will not actually make you happy, and one person having it means another person definitely cannot. It's a zero-sum game, in a way that life isn't, and it has to remain a zero-sum game in order for it to continue, because that's what keeps the stakes high.

My pat little maxim about wrestling is that it's a story about love told through a medium of violence. This is a gross generalization--obviously there's a lot of wrestling out there, about a lot of things--but in my opinion, the best wrestling stories are about people who deeply love something or someone and whose only way to engage with that love is violence, because violence is how stories are told in their universe. Which is tragic! When kevin owens screams at sami zayn to stay down because he doesn't want to hurt him, when mjf tortures cm punk while reciting back his own promo that mjf memorized as a child, when hangman adam page gets the title only to realize it doesn't solve the psychological damage that the rejection he faced from the elite did to him, that's tragic.

What i've realized while typing this out is that really, what i mean is that the best wrestling characters often have a central goal (be the best, win the title) that is actually incompatible with their underlying character motivations (love, be loved). and once that's true for even one character, they fuck it up for everyone around them. mjf can't just give cm punk a hug, he has to beat him, even if he makes both himself and punk miserable in attempting to do so. and that's going to keep being true, because it needs to be true in order for the matches to be interesting. the story incentivizes this discrepancy. if you learn to express your feelings in a healthy way and to put up emotional boundaries with people who can't, and to have a healthy perspective about how little winning a big belt actually means about you as a person, you become a less interesting wrestler.

Whereas in real life, yeah, suffering is inevitable! but it's not the meaning of life, or whatever. it's just a thing that happens, and you learn to avoid it when you can and deal with it when you can't. if there's a goal you're going after that's causing you untold harm to achieve, you can ultimately pick a different goal. and you can find joy and meaning in the trees changing color for the fall and in cooking a nice meal and in working a job that's just alright where you don't have to be the best at everything but you're making something you're proud of. if you want to compete over something, that's cool, but it's best not to stake your whole sense of being on it. Life's not a zero sum game. there's enough joy to go around, if we're willing to share it.

but like i said at the beginning--this is just my perspective, and i'm definitely confirmation bias-ing it! if you'd rather imagine Sisyphus happy, that's cool. we'll just enjoy our musclemen in sparky underpants fake punching each other in slightly different ways.

#again these are gross generalizations #wrestling is about a lot of things #but it bends towards a particular kind of storyline #this isn't even getting into the role of the crowd #and the give and take of love there #but yeah this isn't a complete analysis it's just my thots #i'll write my thesis one day. but not today.

[thranduel]

some thoughts about astarion because i'm tired of the internet reducing him to one thing

when bg3 came out in early access, astarion was always seen as the extremely flirty, confident guy who enjoyed sex (or so we thought) and spoke about it like it was his favourite thing. he was also kinda marketed as the “sexy vampire”, so you can understand why many people saw him that way based on the little amount of content we had. even while playing act 1 and act 2, many players still might think of him like that because he does have a very charismatic personality and he asks to sleep with you very early on, so it just automatically makes you think he’s genuinely happy doing that and being totally serious.

BUT!!!!!!! we end up finding out later on that’s NOT the case and it was all part of a plan to seduce us in order for him to gain protection. he opens up about his past and his trauma and how he was forced to use his body to lure people back to cazador. he struggles with intimacy and relationships in general because of this. that’s why i really hope that people stop reducing him to “hot sexy vampire that loves flirting and having sex with everyone” when that is not who he is, he’s literally traumatised because of sex due to being forced into it and he’s slowly trying to heal. he’s also so much more than just “the hot vampire”, ya know? if you actually put in the effort to get to know him, you will see who he truly is underneath and he has many loveable traits to appreciate.

you may not see the “soft” side of him very often because he hides it, but it’s there!! one thing i noticed that really stood out to me was that when i gave food to an orphan in act 3 and he approved. back when you first met him, he probably would’ve done the opposite or had no reaction at all. i also saw a clip of someone trying to romance karlach and astarion and he literally told tav to choose karlach over him because he can see that karlach loves her. he said normally an arrangement would work for him but after everything karlach has been through, he doesn’t want to get in the way or see her hurt. letting tav go is also hard for him as well but he still thought about someone else. he could’ve whined or been possessive or jealous but he didn’t do that at all. where are all those people who reduce astarion to “the guy that flirts and sleeps with everyone” now? seriously. that’s not what he does, and when he was forced into it by cazador, he was trying to survive, he didn’t do it for his own pleasure. it’s not a “hot” personality trait of his, it’s literally trauma. and because he did it so much, he got used to it, and that resulted in him disassociating and feeling empty.

apparently if you ask him to join you and sleep with the drows at the brothel (something i will never make him do in my playthroughs), he only says yes because he struggles to say no. but he disassociates. and if you’re in a high approval relationship with him and he loves you, he will feel safe enough to express his feelings and say he’s not comfortable. this happens before you fight cazador. i’m not sure if he gives the same response after, but either way, if he joins in, he will always disassociate and it’s not something he wants to do despite what he may say.

that being said, it’s obviously still okay to appreciate his beauty and attractiveness, because he is very beautiful. he appreciates it and even likes being called beautiful. calling him “hot” and “sexy” isn’t a bad thing either, we know he can be and i'm sure he knows it too! it’s just annoying when people act like that’s ALL he is and they don’t even mention anything else about his character. the love scenes are beautifully done too (i personally prefer the second one after you’ve stopped him from doing the ritual, because that’s the one where he decided he truly wanted it and felt safe and comfortable because he genuinely loves you), and i actually would’ve been fine if they didn’t have any scenes like that at all because it’s totally understandable and valid if he didn’t feel comfortable, but i just hope that people don’t take things too far and over-sexualise him just because of how he appeared to be in the first half of the game and the way he’s often marketed on social media. and yes i know he’s fictional and nothing on the internet is going to hurt his feelings!!!! it’s more about the fact that he canonically has sexual trauma and many people still say really disturbing stuff even AFTER they find out about that, and it just makes me uncomfortable to think that people are okay with treating someone like a sexual object especially when they've said they're traumatised and it makes them uncomfortable. idk if this makes sense 😭

but yeah he doesn't want to flirt and sleep with everyone as i've seen people claim. and if in an alternate universe he did, and he did it on his OWN terms, and the other people he had relationships with enjoyed it too, then good for them! absolutely nothing wrong with that if there's consent, respect and honesty. however, that's not the case with what happened with astarion, because 1. he was forced into using his body WHEN HE DID NOT WANT TO and 2. he misled people and lured them to a miserable fate. it's so horrible and devastating for everyone involved. sex was never something fun for him, and it certainly isn't a "personality trait" of his. it was a survival tactic. he was forced to. he didn’t want to.

obviously when he becomes more comfortable, then it's totally understandable to get excited when he flirts and shows physical affection. he can be so charming, funny, sweet and romantic and i love that. it’s so beautiful to see him heal, genuinely find comfort in someone for the first time and experience intimacy that he feels ready and comfortable for. he deserves to love and be loved on his own terms instead of being forced. but again, he is so much more than the guy we were introduced to at the beginning. the internet just sees one thing and sticks with it but i really hope people start to actually appreciate him for who he is and the complexity of his character.

aaaaand i just had to leave this here <3

#astarion #baldur’s gate 3 #bg3 #sorry for rambling i’ve just been very emotional about him recently 😭 #also i hope people remember that even if he NEVER EVER wanted to have sex again he is 100% valid #he does not have to change or force himself to feel a certain way #especially after everything he’s been through #and if you think he does then you’re gross. he doesn’t owe anyone ANYTHING #anyways #when he kept apologising for not sleeping with tav i wanted to cry #there is literally a scene where if you tell him halsin is interested in you he says it’s ok to go to him #but then he gets concerned and asks if it’s because he hasn’t slept with you for a while #and i wanted to cry #he should NEVER have to feel guilty for that #honestly the only reason why i think he might eventually feel comfortable with sex again is because -> #in act 3 after his genuine love confession after you help him defeat cazador he initiates it himself #and it feels like it’s something he truly wants after developing a strong emotional bond with someone for the first time #and i think that’s really beautiful that he chose to do it on his own terms when he felt ready #but also #for a while i wasn’t sure if he was repulsed and uncomfortable by sex in general and hated it entirely #or if he only feels comfortable after he develops a strong emotional bond #the only reason i think the second one now is because of what happened in act 3 #but regardless whatever it is i just want him to feel safe and comfortable and happy #my posts

[varibean]

How do you feel about tall buff Varian by now? After all the fandom drama.

gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't tall varian anon and answer this honestly

i do not care how people draw varian or what they personally like. i myself like drawing him fat and strong, and enjoy the concept of varian being tall. i also like drawing him curvy and tall, short and fat, masculine and feminine. Any combination of things, depending on what i'm feeling

what i don't like is how some people (mostly one person) in the fandom can ruin an interpretation of the character for everyone else. tall buff varian as a concept on its own? sure. not exactly my cup of tea but i can see the appeal.

tall buff varian after all of this bullshit? It makes me less inclined to like art depicting him that way and less inclined to draw him that way myself, which sucks bc i do enjoy a good tall boy

and i wouldn't call it drama as much as i would call it one (or perhaps two or three? i'm still not certain) person's constant harassment of the fandom.

i have gotten some absolutely vile things sent to me. racist, homophobic, ableist things said to me over this. not only that but back when this all started this person went to my fiance and said horrible shit, all in an effort to get me to respond when i ignored them.

so overall, i think people should just draw what they want, take characters and make them their own, but seeing tall buff varian puts a bad taste in my mouth after this, even when done with the most innocent intent so yeah, thanks to that person for being a little bitch

#varian #so that one person can see this #or multiple ppl if it is multiple ppl but yeah mmm hate this #i like drawing varian in multiple ways! i've drawn tall buff varian in the past #but now it just feels gross and honestly makes me dislike drawing him in general just a bit #i'll stick to my fat varian's #that's a lie bc i'm drawing a twink fem trans boy varian rn but #again ppl can draw him in multiple ways! i just hate this bc of one person

[catchyhuh]

Feeding the beast once more because you're on a roll with pairings (and these two have been on my mind since I've gotten into the fandom, shhhh) :)))

Too old for this shit (spiritually). Obsessed with Lupin (literally). Hats. They're definitely a rarepair, but not the rarest (props to any zenigoe shippers, lol). So, thoughts on Jigen x Zenigata? I feel like they've got a lot of potential despite not interacting all that much, platonic or otherwise.

this one has always intrigued me because the very few times where they do interact directly its just. so funny. they have such a funny dynamic that i want explored so much more. also funnily enough the next ask after this one is zenigata and goemon so!! isn’t that a cute little perfect triangle of asks!!

i used to joke with my friends (IN A PRE-LUPIN ZERO WORLD) that jigen could very well have been older than zenigata and lupin was just fucking with zeni by insisting he was the old man. not really related to anything but it’s always so funny to me. but like you said spiritually at least, jigen is significantly over the hill, and it’s hilarious that in this case the ACTUAL older guy is the one with twice the energy

i think, honestly, like with all of the gang proper, zenigata would be shocked by how much he has in common with him. it’d take forever and a day to get there but when they GOT there he’d be like “wait you also think ketchup on eggs sounds gross when you say it out loud and yet not that bad of a flavor combination in theory but you’re too lazy to actually try it?” and there’s this weighted pause before jigen kinda shrugs like “Yeah.” and zenigata goes “Damn…” 

the size difference is so funny because it means zenigata COULD just sling jigen over his shoulder but would never out of fear of retribution. like yeah you can pick up this little pomeranian but look at those eyes do you trust that thing to not lunge for you when it’s at face value?? if he ever has to do it he just repeats “sorry sorry sorry” under his breath the whole time until theyre out of range but really i think jigen is pretty ok with not dying. and also with being scooped like that lmaooo you see the way that guys ex-boyfriends are built?!!?!1!?

they would be absolutely terrifyingly effective working together because they would actually listen to each other, and neither would really be fighting to “lead” the attack. but on the other hand the contrast between the one who looks like he’s putting every single muscle in his body focused on this one minute task vs the guy who looks completely effortless doing some crazy shit like untying alexander’s knot or what the fuck ever is kind of funny. AND LEAVES YOU UNDERESTIMATING THEM LEAVING YOU OPEN FOR A TAG TEAM ATTACK WHUPOW!!

guy who takes up whole couch watching tv + guy who unironically does the tv dad stand = finally the world is in fucking balance

#what uh. what is their ship name again. i wanted to type jizeni but then i was like ew that sounds gross! that can't be it but #the general sense of humor of the lupin fandom makes me think that's EXACTLY why it would be called that #lupin iii #lupin the third #jigen #zenigata #jigzeni #asks

[ruthlesslistener]

wait okay genuine question. do couples actually do the french kiss thing where they lick each other's mouths for more intimate kissing or is that just a fanfic/porno thing. it just seems really weird and unsatisfying to me

#then again im aro and dont like kissing so. lmao #im also just generally weird around mouthes and spit in general tho (i think its gross) so its probs me #genuinely curious though bc i have no idea

[starbuck]

not intending to police how people talk about their individual experiences since ik a lot of times posts blow up that were never expected to, but maybe just in general we should cut back on the whole “going on testosterone makes you smell bad” thing, because i see that SO much and it’s frustrating to me…

like. Yeah, it makes you smell different, but not bad… As someone who’s autistic and has a very sensitive nose, I got used to the changes pretty quickly. It’s not nearly as big of a deal as it gets made out to be, and the fact that it’s made out to be a big deal seems like it’s a walking a fine and dangerous line between trans people joking around with each other within the community and fearmongering that bigots could easily weaponize against us (and probably already have, knowing them).

So yeah, idk… All that considered, it just doesn’t sit right with me.

#like. if you actually smell BAD then maybe just shower more often?? #and don’t put that on the rest of us #cuz again - i get that a lot of it is meant as Just Joke within the community #but i just don’t find it very funny #not in this day and age when there’s so much misinfo about hrt out there #and transition in general #and how trans men in particular are often portrayed by bigots as ‘destroying our bodies’… #it was definitely good to know that there WOULD be changes - i’m not saying that we shouldn’t tell people that #i’m just saying that framing those changes as inherently BAD is maybe Not the move… #again - considering the current political climate #and how t.erfs and other conservatives constantly make trans people out to be inherently gross and disgusting #i’m just saying…

[lesbiansanemi]

Gay trans men be normal about women challenge. Especially trans women and lesbians

#why are they so misogynistic. like why. lol. lmao even. it's infuriatingly hysterical #and not just misogyny in general #the TRANSMISOGYNY?????? #lord. god. dear fucking jesus it's goddamn horrendous #also genuinely one of THE MOST lesbophobic groups of ppl i have ever had the displeasure of interacting with #the disdain for women hidden behind 'well i'm not a woman nor attracted to them uwu it's okay to talk about how awful and gross and terribl #they all are. also i will accuse all of them for being either transphobic or a misandrist or both if they confront me about this' #'because i am trans and a minority group so therefore i can never be wrong uwu' #insane behavior #the way so many of them view afab nonbinary ppl as Women Lite because if you're not a binary trans man who wants to pass as cis perfectly #you are irrelevant and can have no opinions on trans topics or experience transphobia or identify it #crazyyyyyyyyyyyy #don't even get me started on the 'transandrophobia truthers' just admit you can't handle trans women being the main topic of conversation f #for once. not even in discussions over their fucking oppression #and don't even get me started on the internalized shit. like not just the misogyny but honestly this weird brand of transphobia #and homophobia too. it's fucking wild #once again. lol. lmao even. #sorry i saw some stupid shit this morning (and it's been building for a while) and I want to bitch. i'm tired. i'm so fucking tired #it's such a trend i have seen in this group of ppl #OBVIOUSLY i know they are not all like this but GODDAMN a lot of them are #and any time someone tries to point out any issues with the community they're just accused of being a bigot. whatever x-phobia is convenien #to cry at the time #okay i'll shut up now #kaz rambles

[cocolacola]

i dont need more illidari i dont need it Here's my first crack at an oc demon hunter :) this will probably be expanded upon later

#i can draw again! #it won't be much though because im living without AC rn so my hands get too overheated and gross-feeling to draw #if i feel inspired i will render this to some degree #thought about making her a second generation kaelthas follower (so born in outland) but idk if that's canon compliant? #i mean there's a couple decades where illidan was in the black temple so it's not impossible right? i forget. #we will see! #her name is Pinky because of her violet scars + my inspo from Needle my beloved #warcraft #world of warcraft #world of warcraft legion #wow oc #wow ocs #warcraft oc #demon hunter #illidari #blood elf #my art

[dimsilver]

.

#hey so I’m feeling kind of hesitant to say this because some of you have real serious chronic Illnesses and I just have a skin condition #that’s becoming chronic at this point #but it really is just one time after another saying ‘yeah I can live like this’ #and then it gets worse and you say it again #(probably also having these thoughts and feeling generally gross and down because of the time of the month it is. but anyway)

[baalzebufo]

more of This, now with Even More Lydia (now that I can draw her decently-)

shes not keen on the beach despite her dads insistence the sun would be good for her and cheer her up. luckily for her she found this gross fish washed up on the shore

beej has shades of ursula in this in that hes got weird ocean magic and can allow lydia to turn into a merperson- she doesnt agree for a while due to not trusting weird sea demons with ominous pacts but eventually gets fed up and relents. they have fun tormenting the local seaside town together

beejs main pitch to her in this au is like 'hey yknow what'd REALLY scare your dad. if you went missing at sea with me. cmon bestie' and when lyds stops entertaining this notion because as much fun as shes having, she doesnt really want to do that- he decides well IM going up on land then >:( and thats when he starts conspiring to make a second deal with her to Get Legs (and also maybe revenge on former friends who start ditching him)

something something im sure it’ll all work out in the end. until then, here’s some fish pals

#alloyart #beetlejuice #lydia deetz #mer au #betelgeuse #again disclaimer do not tag as ship #when i was younger and actually went swimming I used to love lurking just above the water like a sea creature #and creepin along the bottom of the ocean or pool. lydia definitely does that #i thought giving her a bunch of bat-like frills would be a fun design choice as a feesh. also lots of spikes in general #hers is a temporary transformation think of it like a H20 kinda thing :V #umm other fun things I thought about #beej can do all sorts of weird fish stuff. hes got pharyngeal jaws and can produce so much hagfish slime #hes basically a sea monster amalgamation of all my favourite strange gross fish #he probably smells really bad if he gets beached. like rotting fish. nasty #anyway aaahhh thank you for the nice notes on my doodles!! im having a lot of fun #I worry sometimes about 'oh no am I spamming the tag/being annoying' but. y'alls kind reception eases my self doubt :p #ok thats my tag ramble. have a lovely day

[masquenoire]

Sorry to have been a bit quiet on Roman these last couple of weeks. Slowly but surely I’m getting over whatever funky mood I’d been in so thanks for being patient with me ~ ♡

#💀 ;; ooc #Not really sure what's been up lately #Haven't really felt like myself for a while but I shouldn't run away from my problems like that #Feeling a bit more like myself again so I'll give responses a try tomorrow or in the coming days since my schedule is back to normal for now #Not sure about a couple of weeks from now when the Coronation happens might be busy again #April is a bit of a gross month and spring in general nyeh #Hope you're all doing okay lovely people

[semercury]

i miss things.

#stuff sarah says #i think i mostly miss the tight knit community with close friends #writing is a very lonely hobby and it was nice having a hype crew #i went back to look at memes i made for old longfics. i miss doing that. #i still share wips with some people and love adore and appreciate the feedback i get #but idk. the energy was different back then. but i think my energy in general is different now #everyone including myself is out here fighting for their lives #no time to make and laugh at memes about niche fics #idk. i feel like this makes me sound ungrateful. i'm not #i just miss the tiny writer club i had with a certain group of friends #feels bad bc i'm basically the one who set it on fire on account of me being insane #idk. i'm tired. i feel gross. i cried in my car bc my food was missing half the order or at least what i was used to #so if that tells you what kind of mental state i'm in rn... #and on top of it i'm trying to write a heavy scene #like hi you almost died but can we talk about the drunk phone calls? please stop telling me how much you want to die #i love you and i don't want you to die. i already had someone die in my arms a few years ago i can't handle that again thanks #cool. love you. no smooches yet. let's get our daughter and get the fuck out of here i'm tired #edit: and another thing. i miss just interacting with fics in general. mine and others #but alas i'm terrified #if i go on ao3 and am happy something is Going To Get Me #there's fucking ooze there and i'm tired of it! i want to use my fic site again!!!!!!! #i miss it!!!!!! i miss getting so hyped over other people's writing and feeling like i can say that!!!!!!!!! #i don't feel like i'm allowed to anymore and it sucks!!!!!!!!! #i don't want to read and not be hype. but just going on ao3 takes so much energy and effort and reading is so so hard these days #that i know i won't have enough energy for a proper comment so like. why should i enjoy what someone made if i can't even share that #joy with them? #and i know that's so so so stupid bc i think very few people would ever expect that of others? #like i know at least for me i'd rather have someone read and not interact than not read at all #not that it looks like i think like that bc i haven't replied to anyone in forever #but that's bc i go to and then i get the shakes bc i'm nuts and there's ooze!!!!! i'm tired of the ooze!

[the-kipsabian]

in three weeks this time i'll be on a plane again

#never thought it possible again tbh #i was so ready to give up on this and just life in general #i mean.. im not saying im still mentally 100% okay far from it honestly but we got over the worst part for now #im not gonna say dreams come true or anything like that but knowing it does get better #setting yourself save points to get to helps. yeah it hurts on the way there but its worth it #or something. idk i just woke up and im already kinda emotional about this #anyways. london does approach. tk do the right thing #im gonna get coffee and hope this humidity doesnt blow up my head today god its so gross #night is an absolute mess on main

[hotsugarbyglassanimals]

honestly the loneliness i carried with me from age 11-12 is something i don't think i'll ever be able to forget

#reflecting again lately but like #it was more than just getting bullied but widespread social ostracization. i was the 'gross' kid that no one really wanted to be around #for the simple crime of ... being too into pokemon in 3rd and 4th grade. and this followed me for years despite not talking about it anymor #and the crazy thing ... i wasn't even that out of the ordinary !! not that i wouldve somehow deserved it if i was but it was more just like #if *anyone* was even remotely into videogames or anime then like... i wouldve had like a niche group of friends at the very least #not to be like 'i was born in the wrong generation' but i would not have been so out of place if i grew up in the 90's instead i feel like #im so certain what made me a cringey freak was not paying attention to the mainstream culture of the 2000's - 2010's. it felt like the - #unabashed earnestness of the 90's got completely obliterated the two following decades #just asked my sister about it and she said that tracks skdjhgf so... gh

[vixenicks]

hrhrhhfh

#ive talked about this before but i turn 18 in may and i think the idea of that in general irks me alot #mainly for like housing and moving out reasons #but the age eighteen feels gross #i dont want it #i dont want that #i dont know i think the culture around being legal sucks and i hate it #its like im losing an excuse #its no longer a conversation of how old i am its a conversation of my consent on the matter #and thats something i never want #i wanna be sixteen forever but also not really #something something it feels like something has been torn away from me again aging is an innate horror i cant explain #personal #vent ish #skyler posting #i look up 18th cakes on pinterest and you see alot of “finally legal!” “she's legal<3” like ew #idk

[boiled-dennis]

i'm just so tired of people in fandom making art of fat characters, but not even bothering to try to properly draw fat people. people gush about these characters but then draw them having thin faces and defined jaws, double chin magically gone. not to mention limbs (most often arms) and hands being really disproportionate and looking like they belong to a thin person.

practice !! you don't have to post all things you ever draw. you can practice drawing fat people and it's okay if it looks bad at first. but it disgusts me so much to see people talking about loving a character so much, and then not even properly drawing them. consistently. it's disrespectful as hell.

and then with art that intends to portray the fat character in a sexy way, the waist is often narrowed for no reason at all. i've seen many people act like it's more 'tasteful' to draw fat people as "thicc" rather than just.... fat.... like do you actually care about the character? is the reality of the character something that is important to you? do you care about real human beings? it sends a message when you draw characters this way. other fat people will see the art and think "wow yet another person in this community who doesn't give a shit about fat people". not to mention how it disrespects the actual actors.

also using the word "chubby" is not as neutral and Kind as you seem to think it is. it feels infantilising and like you're too scared to admit you're attracted to -gasp- Fat people so you have to use a playful word that implies not a great amount of body fat., dont call people squishy. and there feels like a specific trend of saying fat people look kind and like they'd give nice hugs can i just say that feels very dehumanising and kinda objectifying .

#hardly ever rant about this stuff but i have just. been trying to look at various fan art #and i am met with shitty art that simply baffles me #i'm not huge on fandom stuff or being involved at all. but this makes me want to never see community contributions again #i hate the hipocrosy of people being all Woww look at guillermo he's such a rare example of a well written fat character #and being legitimately portrayed as attractive and cool #and then they......... draw him in such scary unrecognisable Skinny ways . . #it's not offensive to recognise and portray a character/actor's double chin and stomach ..! #it's horrible and gross when you avoid drawing it properly 👍 youre embarrassing #and dear god please remember fat is distributed not Only in the face and stomach.... fat people generally don't have defined clavicles.... #it's on the shoulders too. and on the back. and remember not to draw the legs scarily long just because it looks disproportionate to you #that's one of the really common mistakes i've noticed. people draw fat people with scary long legs #and like. the thighs touch each other all the time. this isn't the sims 4 okay it's basically impossible for fat people to have thigh gaps