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#also no sapphics on here this is actually cause I hate women-
rotisseries · 4 months
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inspired by elli's poll lol cause this seems fun actually but if you guys have bad answers I'll kill myself on your doorstep or smth
#“rori all of these are your faves how can there be a bad answer” well I still have an internal ranking on some of these#and if all of you pick an option that I think pales in comparison to the others. well. hm#I know what's gonna sweep though because two of these are niche as hell and 4 maybe 5 of these are things you people don't follow me for#fun fact I actually had to scrape my brain to make sure I couldn't come up with any more#I am unintentionally very picky on what is a favorite apparentlyyyy#I also just don't watch/read enough stuff these days so there's that#AND I NEED LONG TERM EXPOSURE TO KNOW THEY'RE STICKING AROUND#so like. I have some options but I don't KNOWWW if they're sticking yet#but this feels like such a small poll lmao#also no sapphics on here this is actually cause I hate women-#NO. JOKING. zelink is here. I almost put gideon and harrow but I'm in a perpetual state of not having finished tlt#and I couldn't put nebetta and darya I was drawing the line at 2 tbos ships. well. actually. changed my mind#not editing these tags actually you guys can see my thought process#WAIT AND SAYMARI. FUCK. I LITERALLY MADE A PLAYLIST FOR THEM I LOVE THEMMM#ok. is 4 tbos ships too many. hmm#I said 2 of these are niche now four of these are niche it's really the “which tbos pairing is your fave” poll#THIS POLL IS SO FUNNY IT'S SO SELF INDULGENT I HAVE TO TAKE OUT AT LEAST ONE TBOS SHIP#I should add one more general one...#cause I do actually want genuine and varied answers I gotta give y'all options so they don't all pool at the first two#I also almost put ellie and abby on here.. that would've been so funny four popular 1 rarepair 3 super niche ships#ellie and abby are soooo interesting to me though so of course the thought of them having something horrible going on together compels me#and they are one of my 3 favorited ao3 tags... they deserve a place...#ok well while I debate on that I'm putting akutagawa and atsushi on here I admittedly have only had like two months of exposure to them#but it is enough I can tell they are so crazy to me#the way my tags are just me overthinking everything on what is supposed to be a fun and silly poll... no one does it like me I'm afraid
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aroacemisha · 1 year
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You know that pan lesbians doesn't exist right? The name of the label itself already is contradictory
(no hate i am just informing you that)
*sigh*
"Lesbian" is an umbrella term. A lot of so-called "political lesbians" who pushed for it to become exclusive weren't even lesbians, by the way, they were cishet women. The damage lesbian separatism has done to sapphic communities still lingers to this day, as described by sapphics who feel unwelcome in a lot of online sapphic spaces (other replies to that post)
There are several other reasons one might label themself as an mspec lesbian. For more information about mspec lesbians, here's a helpful carrd*. Here is also a long list of historical sources mentioning mspec lesbians and gays.
Labels are approximations, not rigid boxes to sort ourselves into. If a person feels that a "contradictory" label is the best fit for their experience, they should be allowed to use it in peace. Any hypothetical "harms" such labels will supposedly cause are complete nonsense and would literally not be the fault of the people using those labels (this is addressed in the carrd linked above, under "FAQ and Common Arguments")
Label discourse is a waste of time and a way to distract from real issues, or to blame other queer people for our struggles and redirect queer people's anger towards a group within their own community instead of the people actually harming them. An anti-queer bigot isn't going to ask your label when banning you from public spaces, prohibiting discussions of queerness in classrooms, or assaulting you in the street. A bigot will also hate you regardless of whether all queer people fit into neat little boxes or not.
The only labels that should be gatekept are culturally specific labels or neurodivergence-specific labels. Everything else is a waste of time and an excuse to be an asshole to people whose identities don't immediately make sense to you.
Please grow out of label discourse before you hurt someone.
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*[Edit from June 28, 2023: I'm linking the Wayback Machine now because for some reason the original link goes to something else now. I don't know what happened to the original carrd, whether it was deleted or just changed the URL, either way I couldn't find it]
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fullofmemories · 2 years
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1.what do you label your muse as, and how do they label themselves? is there a difference, and if so, why?
12.what are your muse’s feelings towards stereotypes relating to their identity? do they affect their self-image, or how they perceive others?
15.if the thing that originally caused them to realise / start the chain reaction to realising they weren’t cishet had not happened, how much longer would it had take to end up here?
17.how are their feelings towards pride and related phenomenons?
21.what words do they reclaim, what are they okay with being reclaimed, and what do they do not want to used to describe them?
sexuality & gender diversity headcanons
1.what do you label your muse as, and how do they label themselves? is there a difference, and if so, why? I describe Katrina as queer, because that's how she describes herself, and also because her identity is a bit hard to explain in simple labels. She knows that she's interested in men and women, she's open to other genders, but she usually represses attraction due to past trauma. She could be described as demisexual or demiromantic, but I don't feel like that's 100% fitting either. Her sex drive is also prone to fluctuate, but I'm not sure if she's necessarily on the asexual spectrum.
12.what are your muse’s feelings towards stereotypes relating to their identity? do they affect their self-image, or how they perceive others? She very much dislikes both ends of the sapphic stereotype spectrum - she is very uncomfortable with being sexualized, but she refuses to comply with a "sweet and innocent" image. She also tends to roll her eyes at the whole "man-hating-feminist" cliche, and occasionally jokes about it. But she's never been one to conform to the images that were set for her, so breaking stereotypes isn't something that shakes her self-image much anymore. She even takes some pride in it. And given her own negative experiences with them, she tries not to stereotype others either.
15.if the thing that originally caused them to realise / start the chain reaction to realising they weren’t cishet had not happened, how much longer would it had take to end up here? It would have still happened, with some delay, but it still would have happened in her teenage years nonetheless. She'd had feelings for years, it was more just a matter of actually being pushed into the realization, and especially with the fact that Ariane realized she was a lesbian around the same time it wouldn't have taken her much longer to figure it out.
17.how are their feelings towards pride and related phenomenons? She might not always go, but she thinks they're fun! They're not always her scene, but she appreciates their existence nonetheless. Especially growing up in a place where she couldn't really talk about it - at least, not without harsh criticism - she enjoys being able to see it so openly expressed. Though, she has a special place of hatred in her heart for rainbow-capitalism.
21.what words do they reclaim, what are they okay with being reclaimed, and what do they do not want to used to describe them? I mean, you could say she reclaims queer, though in the German language queer isn’t really a thing like it is in English. In German, she likes the terms Adamstocher and Kesser Vater, even if they haven’t really been considered that derogatory in recent years. And she finds “Tiefseeforscherin” very amusing. She’s fine with other people choosing to reclaim words, even if she doesn’t personally reclaim them. For some people, it can be a source of power or something positive and she understands that. But in terms of things she’s not okay with being called, terms like “jubelhure” and “schwule sau.” Jubelhure partially because of personal bad experience with the word (if someone calls her this they’re immediately getting punched), and also just because those terms are… really rude.
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Hey Neighbour! - Part 8
Word Count: 3k
Pairing: Ally Mayfair-Richards x Reader 
Warning: uhh some implications of sex 
A/N: Hi, a big big sorry to you all on the late updates to this. I have no self control and have far too many WIP rn and keep forgetting to update this one as I’ve almost finished it! Happy reading! Apologise for any grammar/spelling mistakes x
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Hey Neighbour! - Part 8 
You had avoided the Mayfair-Richards home for the past five days unable to face the woman you had fallen in love with. Old wounds and insecurities had opened up causing you to retreat from your neighbours, Amelia had also picked up on your change of mood which caused the guilt to amplify. The two young children still saw each other at school leading Amelia to mention how Oz had told her how sad his mother looked whenever she did the dishes at night, to anyone else they would have been bewildered by the statement but for you it was like a stab to the heart. Ally had tried to call and text you to ask if you were okay, your short texts back and actively declining calls must have given her the hint that you didn’t want to be contacted because after the first three days she stopped trying. You hated yourself for doing this to her but you couldn’t help but fall back into the familiar withdrawal habit whenever you felt this way, no matter who you hurt in the process. 
“Mama, I’m finished!” Amelia announces, smiling proudly at her empty plate. You’re startled out of your thoughts as you look towards her matching her wide smile with a forced one. Your brother sits next to her as his eyes stay fixated on your form, concern evident within his gaze. 
“Well done, Amelia-cakes! Why don’t you go wash your hands and brush your teeth for bed,” you instruct softly, watching as she nods and dashes out of the room. You quickly make eye contact with him as you lean forward keeping your voice low so to not alert Amelia of the intense situation..
“I wish you would stop looking at me like that,” you whisper harshly, he only shakes his head mutely before responding. 
“I just don’t understand why you’re making yourself and her miserable, you clearly like each other a lot. Don’t ruin this just because you’re allowing your negative thoughts to take over,” his voice soft and gentle causing you to falter, expecting a harsher response. Sighing you relax back before taking a sip from the wine glass. 
“Will you please help Amelia upstairs while I clean up here?” you ask instead, attempting to avoid the current topic of conversation. He sighs in defeat before dutifully leaving the room to find his niece. 
You stand from your chair and collect the empty plates before moving towards the sink, as you begin to clean the dishes you notice a slightly dimmed light across the way causing you to tense, slowly you look up from your task and towards the light. Ally stands at her kitchen counter, even from here you can see how tired she looks causing that familiar guilt to creep up into your chest once more. She looks down for a few moments before placing a large piece of paper into the window, words written in black ink for you to read. 
‘I think we need to talk’ The words cause you to gulp as you nod back before searching for some spare paper to write back on. 
‘Garden in ten?’ you try to smile hoping to ease the situation but falter when she doesn’t return it and only nods back in acknowledgment. 
Wiping your hands on a dry towel you hurriedly move upstairs to inform your brother of your plan, he reassures you that he’ll be fine with Amelia while you go to talk to Ally giving you an encouraging smile before shoving you back towards the staircase. Grabbing your thick jacket and shoes you make your way towards the front of Ally’s home, waiting patiently for her to let you in. Your breath catches in your throat as you take her in, the urge to reach out and hold her becoming stronger with each passing second, brown tired eyes scan your face before silently standing to the side allowing you to move in. You head straight for the kitchen and into the garden area sitting down in your usual spot, you wait for her to join you. A hot cocoa mug appears in front of your view causing you to smile sadly as you take it from her hands muttering a quick ‘thank you’. It’s quiet and dark out except for the porch light that glows above you, both sitting quietly as you take a sip of the hot drink.
“Ally I-” 
“Why weren’t you honest with me? If there was something wrong you should have told me instead of practically falling off the face of the earth,” her statement catches you off guard, causing you to falter as you stare at the mug in your hand. 
“After she left me and Amelia I was struggling for a while, I couldn’t cope with working and looking after a baby full time but I had this beautiful girl to look out for so she became my top priority over everything, my job, my friends. It took me years before I could trust others outside of my family to take care of her. I’m not good at having these healthy relationships that are good for me and I am so sorry that I’ve treated you this way, you deserve better than this,” you mutter, tears gathering within your blurred vision.
“I understand how hard it can be to trust people, I mean you know about Ivy and how she betrayed me, betrayed Oz. I get why you got scared when things were looking serious, I’ve had my moments with that too but Y/N I’m not like her and you aren’t like Ivy.” She pauses, collecting her thoughts before continuing. 
“We are good people and I don’t think it was a coincidence that it was you who so happened to move in next door… that night after the fair apart from Oz I’ve never been so certain about anything in my life, I want to be with you and I want this to go somewhere but I need you to speak to me and be honest with me,” Ally tilts her head as if seeking your gaze before reaching across and grabbing your hand. 
“I’m so so sorry, Ally. I should have spoken to you about my worries, I’m not used to someone caring. I just looked at how comfortable we all were in your kitchen that morning, how domestic it all was and my god I couldn’t have fallen further for you but my mind was screaming at me that if I allowed Amelia to become closer to you and you decided to leave… I can’t have another person walk out on her.. On me,” you stutter over your words as you feel your throat tighten, holding back a sob. Ally moves from her seat and crouches in front of you placing your mug onto the table she takes both your hands into her own, squeezing them with reassurance. 
“I love you y/n. This week has been tortuous the amount of times I thought about walking over and forcing you to speak to me, but I knew you needed time to collect your thoughts. I may not have been obvious with it but I could tell something had spooked you that morning but please come and talk to me whenever you feel trapped into a corner, okay?” her dark brows arch, as she waits for your response. As you nod Ally reaches upwards and captures your salty lips with her own, her warm comforting hands cupping your face in place. 
Tears continue to fall between you both as Ally presses gentle kisses along your jaw and cheeks seeking out that comforting touch, you realise that you were wrong. Ally isn’t like the rest of them, she’s kind and caring but most of all she understands you in a way that no one else can relate to. You quickly capture her lips, a heated kiss needing to feel her close. 
“Is Oz upstairs?” 
“No, he’s staying at a friends house,” she mumbles, against your lips. Pulling back you look into her slightly glazed eyes and demand the thing you need most. 
“Take me to bed, Ally.” 
With that, Ally grabs your hand and leads you back inside the house. The moonlight glows throughout the room giving you a clear view of Ally’s face as you allow her to look after you, whispering soft reassurances against your exposed skin leaving trails of wet kisses along your body, closing your eyes you surrender yourself to this woman finally allowing yourself to be loved without restrictions. 
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Bright light beams through into the bedroom causing you to stir and groan at the invasive light cuddling into the softness of Ally’s chest enjoying her warmth and secure form wrapped around you. Lips graze against your hair as the brunette whispers a ‘Good Morning’ causing you to smile as you watch her fingers brush over your forearm that has stayed wrapped around her waist all night. 
“Good Morning, Honey. Did you sleep well?” your fake-innocence doesn’t pass Ally as she chuckles deeply, her hand moving to tilt your chin upwards causing your lips to brush against her swollen ones. 
“Deliciously actually,” her hoarse voice, makes you shiver before you capture her lips once more enjoying the sounds that escape her throat. 
The sound of the front door opening downstairs and quick footsteps making their way upstairs causes you to part suddenly, blindly reaching for your scattered clothes recognizing those footsteps from anywhere. 
“Mom!!” Oz’s voice shouts from the hallway, causing you to quickly cover up and head for the en-suite bathroom needing to freshen up before the poor boy sees you. Ally’s eyes follow after your retreating form in light amusement as she tucks on the woolly jumper and ties the string around her joggers. 
“Mom I’m home! We had such a cool night! Jeremy bought over his new racing car you know the one with the remote it was awesome!” Oz’s excited voice trails into the room as he runs straight for Ally’s legs hugging her tightly, she places her hands on top of his crazy blonde curls and smiles.
“Well it certainly sounds like you had fun! So where is Sam’s mom? You didn’t just run from her car without saying thank you did you?” Ally’s tone makes you smile as you peak through the gap of the bathroom door always infatuated with her motherly side. Oz tries to hide his expression but with one raised eyebrow from Ally the boy slumps and sighs before nodding. 
“It’s okay Ally! He was just excited to see you! Oz I’ve left your bag by the door okay,” Sam’s mom shouts from the staircase before the sound of the front door closing reaches your ears. Taking this as your cue you leave the bathroom just as the sound of screeching reaches your ears, a small body colliding with your own making you stumble. 
“Woah! Hey Buddy!” you greet with a groan, laughing as you place you cup your hand around his jaw cradling him close. A sense of guilt lingering within your chest, the realisation what your actions could have done to the poor boy being the same fear you have for Amelia. 
“I’ve missed you,” he mumbles into your stomach, you crouch to be eye level with him and give him the biggest smile you could muster. 
“I’m sorry for not being around much, silly adults and silly work has been keeping me busy. I promise to make it up to you,” you murmur, watching as he nods accepting your apology before turning to leave to grab his backpack from downstairs. You stand from your position and fold your arms across your chest, that unsettling feeling still present, Ally steps towards you and places her hands onto your cheeks before kissing your lips. 
“Stop, I can practically hear the gears turning in that beautiful head of yours. Now let’s go downstairs. I want to see my girl.” Her words cause you to raise a question eyebrow as your lips twitch into a half grin. 
“Oh?”
Ally grins wickedly, before stepping towards the door. “I meant Amelia silly.”
With that she winks and takes her leave leaving you agape. 
“Well I know my place then,” you grumble playfully before running after the mischievous Senator. 
As if on cue the sound of the front door stops you both in your tracks midway down the stairs, Ally moves to answer the door and beams when she sees Amelia stood with her Uncle who has a very dirty grin on his face as his eyes move from Ally to you wiggling his brows as Ally crouches down and fronds over Amelia who seems to be enjoying the attention from her favourite person. 
“Uncle Rupert said you guys had a sleepover without me, Ms. Ally!” she exclaims, a small pout forming onto her lips and you bite your own to stop your laughter. From the shakes coming from Ally’s shoulder the woman seems to be doing the same. 
“Oh sweetheart I’m so sorry, I promise we can have soon okay? Just me and your mom needed to have a grown-up sleepover to talk.” 
“Yeah I bet you did,” Rupert mumbles, amusement evident within his tone. You glare at him from your position as Oz comes running from the living room area, he instantly goes to hug his friend as he drags her further into the house telling her all about his sleepover. Rupert waits by the door as Ally gives him a shy hello before following the two leaving you to talk privately to the smug man.
“Not a word,” you demand, making sure to punctuate every word, it only seems to make him grin further. He shrugs putting his hands up in surrender as he steps through the door meeting you at the bottom of the staircase. 
“So are we back on then? Oh and no need to thank me for looking after the devil's spawn last night, I swear she just knows what to do to make me crumble. I didn’t even know you still owned a Nintendo Wii,” he rants, as you both walk towards the kitchen where Ally sits with the two children all drinking from their respective mugs. Rupert goes to sit next to Amelia as he steals her mug to take a sip as she glares at him. You shake your head at the two before clashing eyes with Ally who winks over her mug gesturing you over which you gladly do. Stood behind her you wrap your arms around her shoulders and listen as they all converse amongst themselves enjoying these rare moments that you will hold dearly, smiling you kiss Ally’s temple before relaxing joining in on the conversation. 
Now relaxed you allow the past to stay at the back of your mind as you look forward to the future, a secret plan up your sleeve you allow the details to rail off within your head excited to show Ally just how much she means to you and how do you do that?
By going official, of course.
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gettin-bi-bi-bi · 2 years
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I apologize if you've answered this before, feel free to link to previous answers if you don't want to go about typing up an entirely new answer/spiel but how can I get passed my, I don't want to say disgust cause that's not it but I don't know any other word to describe it, maybe hesitancy to admit attraction to men? I sometimes use/add on the label abrosexual cause I feel like my sexuality legitimately fluctuates, like I feel like a lesbian, only interested in women and non-men and then a few days or weeks later solely men and men-aligned people or whatever and whenever I fluctuate, especially when it's to a bi/pan fluctuation I feel like my attraction to women is somehow lesser because of my attraction to men as well. I know that's not actually true, but it's hard to get that thought or mindset out of my head. I also feel kinda bad sometimes using abrosexual, like I'm a bad queer or something for not just saying I'm bi with fluctuating preferences, that I'm only using a microlabel/not well known label to feel special or something.
Also a little unrelated but how can I say I like nonbinary people without saying it in a way that I think that it's just some third gender. I know it's not, Im genderqueer (fluid?) myself but I never know what words to use. Like is women and non-men okay to say? Is there a better way to put it?
Idk if all of that made any sense, I hope it does. Thanks in advance for answering, I hope you're having a good day and I appreciate this blog.
These are a lot of topics/question to get through so I'll try to be concise here.
The whole thing about "hesitancy to admit attraction to men" sounds like text book internalised biphobia to me. It's very common amongst bi women (and I guess makes sense if you also partially identify as a woman and/or have been assigned female at birth and socialised that way) to feel like they are "not queer enough" or "bad sapphics" for also being attracted to men. That's biphobia, plain and simple. This particular flavour of biphobia is especially popular amongst radfems and if your main exposure to the queer community happens online, that's probably where you picked it up and internalised it because the radfems are both loud here and also manage to fly under the radar too much so their ice cold takes get retweeted/reblogged without a critical thought about it. It all comes from the radfem idea that ~men are inherently bad~ and ~queer women should always prioritise other women~. And it leads to bi women feeling like they are traitors to the cause for having attraction to men, so they scold themselves and say how unfortunate that attraction is in the hopes of being accepted by the radfems. I could go on about this forever but at this point I will direct you to two older posts. This is one about how to get rid of internalised biphobia. This is about the topic of bi women hating themselves for being attracted to men.
Now, you say you like to use the label abrosexual and then also feel guilty for that. Listen... you can use whatever label(s) you like. They are just words and you do not owe it to ANY group of people to use the same label that they use. You feel like a lesbian sometimes? Then call yourself a lesbian then, if you like. You feel bi sometimes? Then call yourself bi then. Your sexuality fluctuates a lot and you want to use a word to express that fluctuation? That's what abrosexual is for. You can literally use all of these words whenever they are relevant or make sense in the context. Again: it's just words. They are tools for communication so pick the one that fits whatever it is you want to communicate in that moment. It doesn't have to go any deeper than that.
Last point about how to include non-binary people in your sexuality label. Well... you could, for example use "bisexual". That means attraction to more than one gender - nowhere does it say which genders those have to be. It can be any, as long as it's more than one. You don't owe it to anyone to give them more details about your sexuality. You can just say "this is my label, make of that what you will" and go about your day. I'm cis so I would definitely recommend to also get a non-binary opinion on this (maybe @tiger-moran wants to add something) but I've seen a lot of criticism from non-binary people at the term "non-men" because as I understand it, it's basically lumps non-binary genders back in with women as if they are just woman-lite. What about non-binary people who are man-aligned or who are bigender/genderfluid and are also sometimes men? There's not really a way for you to tell how much or if at all a non-binary person partially identifies as a man so... saying "women and non-men" makes it seem like non-binary people are somehow all closer to womanhood than something else. (Also I've seen "non-men" used, again, by radfems to find a new way of saying ~all men are bad, only non-men are good~.) Why not just say "I am attracted to women and some non-binary genders" if you do not want to use a label like "bisexual"? Like... I know the language about all this is still developing and ever-changing but also it doesn't have to be so complicated. You can just either pick a label that already includes multiple genders without having to specify which genders exactly, or you can say you are attracted to some (but not all) non-binary genders without using the term "non-men".
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It's me, Shiloh!! 🐱
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PLEASE DONT FOLLOW IF YOU’RE UNDER 18 ♥
Hi!! I’m Shiloh but if we’re not mutuals you can call me Frostie. I’m a biracial (black/white) nonbinary femme lesbian. I am TME also. They/them. I am an artist and musician. I produce various EDM genres from DnB to future bass. (You can also check "my art" + "my music" tags for more examples, but theyre not updated often)
This is my personal blog! I like to talk about whatever on here and I also reblog whatever. I share my opinions on stuff in general or vent about things that bother a lot. I don’t “discourse” as in, I’m not interested in arguing with strangers online (it causes my heart rate to spike), but I'm ok with having a discussion or receiving an explanation for things.
I <3 lesbians & trans women are my sisters!
You won't get along with me if:
You support bi/pan/m-spec lesbians
Are pro-sh/ip / think you have no responsibility to be critical of your interests
You think butch/femme are just aesthetics you can take on and off instead of a lesbian subculture with its own history. I also believe that only lesbians can reclaim dyke.
Aren't for the freedom/liberation of palestine
Are a swi/ftie (i hate her a lot sorry lol)
Believe trans/androphobia is an actual axis of oppression when it's really just transphobia. And if you think tma/tme are equivalent to afab/amab
If you truly believe in reverse racism cause that's just embarrassing
You like using things that are just a Boy Version of existing sapphic things (tooth/paste flag, achi/liean flag, etc)
Anti-sex work and are also a t-rf
You're anti-self diagnosis of adhd/autism (I'm not getting an autism diagnosis for safety reasons, and I didn't get an adhd diagnosis until recently lol)
You jump right into arguing instead of asking for clarification. I have a difficult time wording posts, so please just ask me what I mean first
Are a choice feminist and liked the barbie movie ://////
[disclaimer: i am a furry LOL]
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shrimplovercat · 3 years
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Bi lesbian is a term that's been around since the 70s, that post is just trying to cause more discourse for things that don't need discourse, who cares about making extra labels, that's just anti mogai and whatnot and it's unnecessarily hateful.
I'm not up to date on whatever the last thing they mention is but that's not the point I'm trying to make here
ive never heard of "bi lesbian" until like, last year and this is the first time ive seen anyone mention that it existed since the 70's. what i have heard is that bi women around that time would be called lesbians by hetero folk when they were in relationships with other women, simply because they do not care about the nuances of the women's sexualities.
my stance on creating specific labels is that as long as its not hurting anyone, absolutely go for it. however with the specific example op mentioned, bi/pan lesbians, it does harm people. i see lesbians especially being affected. not only can people not decide on what exactly a "bi/pan lesbian" is, the definitions ive seen are either bi/panphobic, transphobic, or lesbophobic. the biggest one being people insisting that lesbians can be attracted to men, when (from what ive seen, as i am not a lesbian myself) the definition is "non men who love non men". if you stretch the definition of "lesbian" to include liking men, you are taking away the one label they have. there is a much better already existing term instead of lesbian wrt being an umbrella term, which is sapphic.
i am all for being supportive but you also have to think critically sometimes. by supporting everyone without consideration you might actually be causing harm to others.
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butch-bakugo · 3 years
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So, just found this, a few standard questions from that header top your blog: why do you not prefer the term queer? Do you prefer the term LGBT more, or do you see queer as strictly a slur, nothing else?
Ill be glad to answer however first off im gonna be alittle nitpicky...
I dont "not perfer" the term queer same as i dont " not perfer" she/her pronouns. Dont call me queer at all. Never. Same as dont refer to me using she/her pronouns at all. Never. Im really aginest calling peoples pronouns their " preferred pronouns" cause preference dose not imply that those pronouns are the only option they have, it just means out of all the pronouns you can use for them, you perfer they use he/him. I hope that makes seince. He/they arent my "preferred pronouns" because it implies that ill still be ok with she/it, they just aren't my preference and i am 100% not ok with she/it. He/they are my pronouns same as i say that i do not identify as q*eer.
Now getting into the nitty gritty of your question.
There are many reasons why i dont want to be called queer and alot of it stems from my experiences inside and outside of the lgbt community as someone who has identified as just about every letter other than gay. My reasons dont have a primary but just a bunch of things colliding at once of pretty equal force. The first reason is because ive been assualted with it multiple times with just haveing it spit out of cars at me as i walked to the marathon up the street to even during my sexual assualt by a cis bi woman.
I know to some privilaged people here who live in very progressive areas that are totally shocked when they hear that another lgbt person isnt ok with that word and has had multiple moments in their life where family and friends will use that for them as an issult. They only know it as the new trendy way to say lgbt or the " inclusive" way to say lgbt when rly all that dose is exclude many lgbt people who dont want to be involved where they will be called that.
Another reason is because, from seeing it happen to many MANY celebrity sapphic women and related nbs, soully calling them queer to erase or depublize their sapphic identity. Think about it. When lil nas x was forced out, everyone called him gay cause hes gay. Not once has anyone called him queer or achillian or anything other than gay. Now think about when jojo siwa came out. Everyone was calling her pan and everyone was calling her queer. When she came out, she came out as a lesbian and they were purposefully ignoreing that word. Infact coverage of her totally vanished. I only heard she came out as a lesbian through her tik tok. Nothin else.
Thats common in the lgbt community. Lesbians are hated by alot of people for no good reason and even if im not a lesbian anymore, i can still attest to that after years and years of identifying as a lesbian. It was hell. Lesbians deserve to respected, have more representation and that word shouldnt be silenced.
I also don't like it when fellow lgbt people ignore my identity just to slap the word queer on my forehead and ignore my actual terms. Im a two spirit alloaro butch bisexual, not just vague queer. Many many white people ignore my two spiritness to just slap bigender or intersex on me cause they can comprehend that erasing a two spirit persons identity is racist.
That brings me to one of my last points as to why i do not consent to being called queer nor do i identify as it. I barely identify as lgbt anymore because of my native reconstruction. The more i learn about native culture, the more i learn that my gender and sexuality experiences would be respected and loved by my native communities. The lgbt community is very very white so i tend to shy away from it.
Now onto your next question which i kinda inadvertently answered but ill answer it more directly. Personally out of all the terms that could be used for me in a general sense, i perfer two spirit. As two spirit covers both native genders and sexualities which are complex but also not in comparison to the lgbt community However if i have to pick lgbt. I dont want queer used for me. At all. Ever.
Queer has historically and is still widely being used a slur today so yes, i only see queer as a slur. Im sure alot of questioning lgbt people thrive under that vagueity but im also sure alot of privilaged cishet people thrive in their exploitation of it and im sure alot of lgbt people, such as myself, suffer under it for numerous reasons. Most of them being trauma related.
I could also gent into how alienating the lgbt community is to trauma victims and how cishet centered its been getting but for now, ill stop this post cause my spoons are low and its nothing i haven't said before.
All this to say that if you feel safe and at home in vague " queer" , theres nothing wrong with that and ill never stop someone from calling themselves that or identifying with it. Basically i wont reclaim it and it should never be used to name the community( just say lgbt??) But if someone else identifies with it, good for them. They should still understand that it is effectively still used as a slur and not be pretentious about tagging it
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real gods require blood
All gods who receive homage are cruel. All gods dispense suffering without reason. Otherwise they would not be worshipped. Through indiscriminate suffering men know fear and fear is the most divine emotion. It is the stones for altars and the beginning of wisdom. Half gods are worshipped in wine and flowers. Real gods require blood. - Zora Neale Hurston
- zeus inspo - hera inspo - poseidon inspo - demeter inspo - athena inspo - apollo inspo - artemis inspo - ares inspo - aphrodite inspo - hephaestus inspo - hermes inspo - hestia inspo - dionysus inspo - persephone inspo - hades inspo - modern gods inspo used in blurbs
first thing's first: everyone in this ad should be between the ages of 22 and 27 with the exception of persephone who should be 22 - 24 and demeter who should be 25 - 27. genderbending is okay with me as long as you run it by me first because i don't want to have a million girls, i want it to be fairly balanced. everything said below should be taken with a grain of salt meaning if you put your own spin on it that is totally fine, the inspo is what matters.
additionally, only one or two characters should be from chicago, because the group is a group of people who are imports to the city and the life they have here so please do with that idea what you will. i did link to some cool pinterest boards with some inspo for a modern take on all of the different gods if you want to look at those but again, it's just for inspiration, please please please make every single one of these guys your own.
now, for the actual ad, basically these guys are something of a found family. through their jobs, parties, socializing, exes, currents, whatever they all met and it was almost instant, that connection, that 'feels like i've known you my whole life' thing that came over them. and so they stuck together, even if it was just a group text or once a year dinner party, they've all stayed in touch ever since despite distance, work, time constraints, and anything else that came between them.
the first pair that met and really started it all were aphrodite and ares. they were on again off again, always a problem with time and where their lives were at, but the love is there. they've been friends since their time in school together and it never let up, that care. the rest of the group swear one day aphrodite will find a way to settle down and be with ares but for now ares deals with the on again off again because sometimes is better than never. and then aphrodite found god here, and another one, and their interconnections grew the group and now here they are, family without being blood, with ties running through them, cutting and caressing them all the same.
from there, feel free to just get with me and we can make it work. i'm going to be making a ship developer for them (including a timeline because it seems necessary so that we have some idea on who, what, when, and how) but the basis is a found family plot with interconnections that made this many people come to mean so much to one another. from there? go wild, get with me on any questions, and please have fun with it. some suggestions for interconnections are below in the applicable boxes but if you don't want to use them just talk to me.
and lastly... if you want to add a god who isn't listed please just let me know! give me a little blurb and we can make this happen. remember the slight dystopian feel and the modern twist but like... yes, please, let's do this, i'm here for it. thanks!!
ZEUS. OPEN.
zeus drinks himself half to death at a bar. he no longer cares for mortals. he has long stopped trying to make this world turn.
suggestions: brother to poseidon and hades. married to hera. enters polyship with hera and hestia after cheating scandal. himbo energy.
HERA. OPEN.
hera no longer praises marriage. instead she talks to the women. she tells them that men always lie, tells them to run. she wishes she could take her own advice.
suggestions: married to zeus. enters polyship with zeus and hestia after cheating scandal. better than you.
POSEIDON. RESERVED FOR TESSA.
poseidon still loves the sea but he could not hate mortals more. he feels the pollution of his domain like a phantom pain, raging that he could not protect his oceans from mortals.
suggestions: brother to zeus and hades. has a crush on demeter. moods like the sea.
DEMETER. RESERVED FOR LUNA.
demeter isn't peaceful. she feels the dying of the earth and with it goes her happiness. she curses the mortals who caused this.
suggestions: older sister of persephone. doesn't approve of hades. has a crush on poseidon. the mom friend.
ATHENA. OPEN.
athena chainsmokes in an alleyway, and glares at ares as bloody knuckles and booted feet connect with battered bodies between them. the fight clubs are their temples now.
suggestions: business partners with hephaestus (queer solidarity, y'all). just doing her best. definitely sapphic. possibly once had a thing with aphrodite.
APOLLO. RESERVED FOR THOMAS.
you find apollo in a nightclub on 55th and 3rd, his prophets writhing in intermittent darkness, bassline pounding in their ears, liqour coursing in their veins, smoke and strobe lights clouding their eyes.
suggestions: twin brother of artemis. pansexual and everyone knows it. always chasing the next high, running from the lows. in a secret relationship with hermes.
ARTEMIS. RESERVED FOR DAPHNE.
artemis spends the night in a jail cell, blood on her knuckles and on her shirt and in her mouth, the smell of metal lingering in the air.
suggestions: twin sister of apollo. sapphic pls. the protector meets the vodka aunt. possibly once had a thing with aphrodite.
ARES. RESERVED FOR KITT.
you watch as ares starts a fight in a dive bar, takes a knife from his pocket and uses it without flinching, smiles as he wipes his blade on his thigh, smashes a bottle on the floor and lights a match.
suggestions: on again off again with aphrodite. in love with aphrodite. not currently with aphrodite. just a boy, made of rage and the inability to express his emotions. looks like he'll kick your ass, will pull athena and artemis off of you in a fight, exhausted that he has to yet again. also requested here.
APHRODITE. FREYA WILDER, ATHENA.
aphrodite drinks your worship straight from your lips and chases it with a scotch, crashes a cigarette, flicks the ash on the floor and leaves without so much as a thank you.
suggestions: on again off again with ares. in love with ares. running from ares. most likely to have slept with everyone in the group, twice. intimacy issues? i do know her. i know her so well. someone help.
HEPHAESTUS. OPEN.
you find hephaestus on college campuses, amongst engineering students. in times like this he is more relevant than ever, growing whilst other gods die. it seems that aphrodite is more keen on accepting his gifts now more than ever.
suggestions: business partners with athena (queer solidarity, y'all). once had a thing with aphrodite. a serious thing. didn't end well. they're totes okay now, for sure, yeah, definitely, mhm. patience is a virtue. stubborn pride is a gift. also requested here.
HERMES. RESERVED FOR TONE.
hermes is in the hustle and bustle of rush hour and the rush of the subway. he is perched atop skyscrapers, surveying the beautiful chaos of it all and lo, it is good.
suggestions: brother to hestia. in a secret relationship with dionysus apollo. running to and for, never from. chaotic good gremlin energy. do not feed after midnight. possibly once had a thing with aphrodite.
HESTIA. OPEN.
hestia mourns broken homes, she waits for her family. she waits in the doorway, arms outstretched and a smile like forgiveness waiting to embrace the siblings whom she know will never return.
suggestions: sister to hermes. pretends she doesn't know about dionysus apollo. doesn't approve of dionysus apollo. enters polyship with zeus and hera after cheating scandal. the mediator. why can't we all just get along?
DIONYSUS. OPEN.
dionysus shoots up in a basement in the seedy side of town. he wants to forget the suffering that has filled his immortal life.
suggestions: in a secret relationship with hermes. "gotta stay high, all the time, to keep you off my mind". heart of gold but no one ever seems to believe it. here for a fun time, not a long time, but thinking about that too much hurts.
PERSEPHONE. RESERVED FOR ARI.
persephone grins when people tremble. she is vengeful and wears flowers in her hair and she will make damn sure that the world will never forget her name.
suggestions: younger sister of demeter. in love with hades. she's beauty, she's grace. she'll punch you in the face.
HADES. OPEN.
hades stalks the streets, hazy in the fog of the streetlamps, and he smiles, because people will always believe in death and worship riches.
suggestions: brother to zeus and poseidon. in love with persephone. can you say trauma? secretly the most well rounded and good hearted of them all. how are you so pure, bro? who sent you?
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Gold digger anon here! No worries cause I actually enjoy this guy (we’ve been together for a bit more than a year). He is the opposite of toxic masculinity and is even more pressed about homophobia and sexism than I am (absolute plus for me cause my homophobic misogynist brother hates him for telling him off all the time). Also makes my parents happy cause our companies work together a lot and this could mean a more stable partnership in the future. Our company is smaller than theirs though so I’d be marrying up if it ever comes to marriage. Shame I’m not bisexual cause I’m not attracted to him at all even though he checks off everything I’m looking for in a partner, but it helps that he’s hygienic and cute. Idk I’ve found that letting go of romantic and sexual love have given me actual peace. It’s difficult for most people to understand but I am happier now than I have ever been for having this control over my life. Giving my body to someone I trust—though not attracted to—is not actually a big deal to me. On the contrary, exposing my soul to women who will choose to protect their image in the end anyway, is just plain stupid. Almost all the couples I know—het or homo—don’t even get along anyway and are more into the concept of love than each other. Submerging myself in queer media and pining for Swiftgron is enough to quench my sapphic thirst so thank you for this blog really I love it
omg well sending you ALL the fucking love in the worlddddddddddd like so much
you always have a home here with us
keep us posted on your situation if anything changes!
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I don't know what you think about labels, maybe you are the kind of person who watches shows like Marie Kondo where they organise people's houses and put sticky labels on everything so that you can easily identify the contents. Maybe you're the kind of person who does not like to be labelled or stereotyped. Maybe you prefer to be just yourself.
I have had a very complex relationship with labels and identity. You could say that I started off on the wrong foot. My mother went to a Baptist church on Sunday morning and a Charismatic/Pentecostal hands-in-the-air, shouting and screaming, spiritual warfare kind of church on Sunday night. And my dad had his Holy Communion as a kid and then went to mass on Easter and Christmas.  So to begin with my labels were numerous and incongruent which did cause some issues for younger Zoe.
And I want to share with you about where God has led me through the understanding of this topic. I am not entirely sure where to start and I'm not sure how vague to be here but let's just say that at least the draft will be an explicit and partly chronological one.
12 year old Zoe I went to church most Sundays with her family and she was very very lucky to have a wonderful Christian friends in her life and at this point the label attached to her as a daughter was the unproblematic child and at school she was the sweet and friendly member of the God Squad or Singing Christians depending on how you asked. But those were the kind of labels that existed around that time.
What happens though to 12 year old Zoe is that she falls madly and instantaneously in love with her best friend. And almost immediately she thinks ‘am I in love with this girl? that must make me gay.’ And being a part of the circles that I was in a fairly conservative Christian family and a fairly conservative Christian School with Christian friends in that Christian school, I said ‘absolutely not. I don't want to have to deal with that.’ I was never hateful towards gay people in general I just thought I just didn't want to deal with it myself. My mum and I had had conversations about it when the plebiscite happened, and whenever we spoke about it, it was very much about ‘the gay people’ as opposed to anyone we knew or loved, let alone a Christian person, and so this whole gay thing wasn’t really thought about. Ao a few times over the next 2 or 3 years so I would ask, ‘am I in love with this girl’ And I always concluded ‘no no no you can't be in love cos you're not gay’.
By the time I’m about 14, I’ve been awoken to all different kinds of social justice movements, I took sociology, I’m going to save the world. THe labels I proudly wear are things like left wing, passionate, an ally to many different communities, in particular the lgbtq+ community.
Zoe at one point goes ‘frick frack, I'm definitely in love with this girl’. and because of the way that this world really loves labels, this was completely synonymous in my mind with being gay. My first response was probably because I'm bisexual so now that is an importand confusing label Zoë is wearing. I have somewhat fond somewhat mortifying memories of sitting on the Shinkansen, the bullet train, from Tokyo to Kyoto next to my dad doing every single ‘Am I gay’ quiz I could find online. Throughout this trip to Japan, I’m really testing the waters and every single younger woman I saw I was like ‘Is she cute? Am I attracted to her? Would I kiss her?’ and so that experience made me very nervous because I had still grown up with the mindset that if people were gay it was ok but they weren't Christian. And I was a Christian, so I just ignored it really. And this turned into a time of me hypersexualising sll of the boys that I had ever thought I had a crush on. I can quite confidently say that I didn't actually have a crush on many of them, I just thought that that was something that I should do. So there was a lot of ignoring this feeling.
We then reach year 10, 2020, a glorious year. In the first Lockdown, I finally caved and downloaded Tik Tok. The thing about Tik Tok is that it comes with its own world of labels, and I really would enjoy the kinds of conversations about what side of Tik Tok you are on. I loved that your For You Page automatically gave you certain labels to wear as a Tik Tok user, and I loved that those applied to real life. I quite quickly ended up on gay Tik Tok, among other things. I was also very firmly on Black Lives Matter Tik Tok, on disablrf Tik Tok, on Indigenous Tik Tok, so on and so forth. But much of my content was about the lgbtq community and this opened a ahole can of worms. I, at this time, carried a lot of shame for my attraction to women. For a bit of a backstory, I had been so severely heartbroken by this girl - not by her own intentional actions, I think that she was never going to feel about me the way that I felt about her and that was not her fault - but I was so seriously heartbroken that not only did I hold this moral shame but also this like emotional shame of my attraction to women. I felt like it was not a good thing morally and it didn't feel good emotionally because I had to still been really hurt about this girl and I have never really gotten over that. So for the first time on gay Tik Tok, I saw queerness and same-sex attraction as a positive thing not only in terms of ‘hey look these are women loving woman relationships that are working well’ but also ‘whether or not you're dating someone, queer identity is good for you and it's fun to talk about’. And as a type 4 on the enneagram, I love to feel special - not to say that I fabricated these feelings or that any queer person is queer for attention - but I think a big part of me felt validated or special because of my feelings and my queeness. It was like a new club that I could join. And so the labels that 15 year old Zoe wears largely consisted of queer. We had it dropped bisexual a little bit because at this point I was not sure if I like men at all and so we identified as queer or sapphic or bi or lesbian or gay - many of these words along with the left wing, Pro Black-lives-matter, pro-feminism, pro-lgbtq+, anti-colonialist anti-capitalist etc. etc. And I don't want to demonize any of those things - they are not at all negative things, I'm just painting a picture of the different labels that I wore.
Through out starting to come out to my friends and existing for longer periods of time not only on gay Tik Tok but now really searching all through the Internet for more LGBTQ+ identity - as I tried to confirm my traction for women, as I tried to decide about my attraction to men, about what label I should wear, and what it's like being in the LGBTQ+ community different, spaces where we interact, different identities and labels and experiences of queerness. So I really tied myself to this identity and it is I think so much because of the way the world sees labels as I said and so my first response was ‘well if I like girls I must be gay and if I'm gay I must identify that way and that has to be the most important thing about me’ because all the people I was seeing online really loved being gay. They were proud of their identity in their queeness. In the world as much as I think that we like to think we’ve got this ‘your sexuality or your gender identity doesn't matter. Gay and straight and bi and pan and whoever you are, we’re all human’, I think it often the world does like to draw those lines on both sides. Within queer communities there was - obviously ironically and satirically - this heterophobia honestly. (I'm joking!) But there was a real pride in this identity of whichever specific label you wear as well as the wider lgbtq plus label which led me to believe my sexuality was who I was. And that proved really quite awkward because I knew that my church and my family and many of my Christian friends believed that same sex marriage and romance was sinful. Because of the strong connection between my identity and my sexuality, if my sexuality was sinful, that meant that I was inherently and completely sinful and I didn't like that. It wasn't a fun feeling. After all of the years of learning about God’s gift of grace to us, kind of I lost in the crevices of my mind and whenever I thought about God I was met with feelings of shame and fear and dread and resentment sometimes even anger and I grew to be so despairing.
Eventually I tried the various progressive Christianity movements that teach that ‘God doesn't actually say the being gay is a sin, the Bible is pro queerness and don't even worry about it, God made you exactly the way that you are and he loves you the way that you are, go forth and have that lesbian relationship that you so desperately want’. But that never really sat right with me. It brought up other questions of ‘well if the current translation of the Bible says things like marriage is between a man and a woman, God made man and woman, any sex outside of marriage is sinful, or even the parts that say that ‘homosexuality is sinful, or man lying with man in certain translations, is sinful what happened to that part of the Bible?’ And of course I heard the response about how at the Bible was written by man and not by God and that it is fragile and can be manipulated and basically King James ruined the whole Bible when he wrote that translation and you don't have to listen to it. But that really didn't work for me. If that part of the Bible had been mistranslated how could I know that the rest of the Bible hadn't been mistranslated? If words like homosexuality weren't in the original text and they had been added there or mistranslated how could I understand the words like grace and love and hope and patience and kindness and peace and righteousness and holiness and justice? What if they were mistranslated? What if the whole Gospel was not how it was written in the Bible because the Bible was man-made? Pretty immediatelyI decided I couldn’t really understand a Christianity where homosexuality is not a sin because Christianity is written in the Bible and the Bible says that quite clearly. I believe that the Bible is directly the Word of God, that it is perfect, that the way that it is translated - obviously different translations vary - but that it is right from God’s mouth so imediately was like I can't believe in it Christianity where homosexuality is not a sin and so I've got to pick Christian or Gay.
And I didn’t want to choose Christian because I had this point has grown quite fond of being gay and I mean, I was truly just attracted to women, right, like I wanted a girlfriend and so I tried really hard to ignore God. I was still going to church, twice or three times a week and all that, and I could not shake the existence of God. I knew God existed. I knew that He created the world, that He was good and that they was the thing called sin that separated us from him. I knew that sin led to death. I knew that He had sent His Son to bridge the gap between himself and sinners. I knew that Son was Jesus and that He died on the cross and he rose again and I knew that if you believed in him you would spend eternity with God which was a really good thing. I could not shake those feelings, all those beliefs, and I absolutely praise God for that. I'm so beyond grateful that God did not leave me, even when I hated him and resented him and felt so much anger towards him. Praise Jesus!
All this left me thinking, well some people could go to heaven, but God hates me because of my feelings. He does not want me part of His kingdom if I'm gay. I can't ever go to heaven because I'm a sinner, and sinners don’t go to heaven. I truly don't know where all my years of learning about the grace of God had gone. This led me to a really distressed position, probably one of the lowest ever my mental health had been. I was just not coping and I ended up being kind of forced to tell my mum. I don't really want to say too much on this part of the story but by the middle-ish end of year 10 I ended up coming out to my mum and she told my dad, ‘cause I refused to do it myself, and then I got a therapist. Finally, now that my mum knew, I could ask her what I had so desperately wante to ask her - if she could please buy me some books about being gay and Christian. And so she did. And I slowly but surely started to read them, I started to read my Bible more and I started to really search for what it meant to have faith trust in God’s grace and not in your own work, not in your own actions or thoughts or words. The first book I got in particular was really hard to read it was based more on specific Theology and not on personal experience and I needed that foundation in what God really said because I had just had conversations with my mum and she had reminded me ‘God is real and he loves you and he sent his son to die for you and that is an option for you as much as it is for anyone else, your queerness does not separate you from Christ's death and resurrection’. There is a wonderful bible verse that became very important to me at this time. Romans 8, the very end of the chapter, says ‘for I'm convinced that neither death not life neither Angels not Demons need of a present or the future and or any Powers neither height nor depth nor anything else in All Creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our lord.’ So with this in mind, I decided that I could trust God and now I just needed to learn how. so I worked away through different books, through different parts of the Bible, praying really hard, searching online and asking really hard questions to some really awesome Christian women in my life, and asking God to reveal to me exactly what he thought about me and about queerness and so eventually we get to the present moment. I by no means know everything that I wish I knew, but now I can say that I wholly trust God with my next life - I trust that he has the power and the strength and the holiness to overcome even my sin which sometimes feels like the biggest there is. and I trust him with this life - that life with him is so much better than any lesbian affair I could ever experience.
I want to personally apologize to any one who the church or the world has ever made believe that they are somehow exempt from God’s love because of who they are or what they've done or how they’ve felt. That is false. There is no one that does not sin, no one that is not inherently separated from God. And there is no one who is too far from Jesus' power to be saved from that sin. God is bigger than your sin, I promise you.
I want to take this time to mourn for the lives lost and the joy and peace forfeited because of the way people who claim to know God treat queer people. I'm sorry if you have been made to feel less than because of the church. In the process of overcoming of guilt and shame that I have felt over the year, one more verse that I found really important. 1 John 1 says that ‘If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.’
So for me, I don't identify with my sexuality. I don't want to say that I'm straight now, that's not really true. but my sexuality is not what makes me who I am. I am a person fearfully and wonderfully made by God and I am a daughter of God in Christ. I am not ashamed of my feelings. I do think that it is worth mentioning that an attraction or a desire or an impulse is not the same as a sin. The Bible tells us that Jesus himself was tempted in every way and the Bible also tells us that Jesus is blameless and never sinned. And so I think it's worth the clarification that same-sex attraction or anything like that is not sinful itself and also that being gay is never worse than anyone else's sin, and it is never ever bigger than God.
I just want you all to know that there is nothing that you have done that makes you exempt from God’s love for you, to know that he is trustworthy, that the Bible is trustworthy, and I encourage you that your value is inherent as a person made in God’s image and that with Jesus, you can have identity in his son alone. When he sees you, he sees the goodness and perfection of Jesus if you believe in him.
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In your opinion, which D&D couple has the best love story?
This is a difficult one to answer because the LIs are all really good and even some of the side romances are as well. 
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Ernest Sinclaire is the quintessential Regency hero. He reminds me so much of Mr. Darcy. But like Mr. Darcy if he had a little bit of Colonel Brandon mixed in and then was also younger than Colonel Brandon. He’s just a really good picture of the ideal gentleman of the time. Then his and MC’s story of him learning to trust and realizing he is capable and deserving of a love so deep and profound... it just gets me right in the heart. Just the depressive narrative of him losing everything to the Duke and watching it being taken away from him again. It hurts to think about and you really start to wonder if he thinks he’ll ever actually find love, or something close to it.
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Luke Harper, the common man who could and would never aspire to be involved with an heiress like the MC. She’s beautiful, smart, accomplished, and the sole heir to an Earldom. It’s not a place he belongs because high society was very rigid. He’s devoted to her despite all of this and if you pursue him he reveals his true feelings. His devotion to not only MC but his country runs so incredibly deep that he saves the entire day in the end and is elevated to someone worthy of a countess in the public’s eye (even though he didn’t need it in our hearts).
Annabelle Parsons, a woman struggling desperately to find her place in this society that is build around the conjugal family. She’s likely been told all her life that in order to make something of herself she had to marry well. She’s got a bunch of sisters and nothing else aside from a heap of money. So she did as she was told and found someone tolerable (even if there was no romantic love there) to marry in our half brother Harry. Unfortunately the world is what it is and Harry was taken from her (likely by his own doing because I don’t think he wanted Edgewater in the first place, come on brother/sister solidarity). But she finds love, for real this time, and it’s everything she imagined it could be except for that part where the two of them still have to marry other people. Right now, it’s probably one of the most heartbreaking.
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Prince Hamid has probably had the toughest upbringing of someone who is high society in this book. The current sultan would not be friendly with heirs in lie to the throne and see them as potential usurpers. Once he was of age, he would be taken from his father’s harem and put into his own, which at a young age was likely very lonely. He probably never dreamed he’d ever actually get to leave the palace. Then came the night where rebels stormed the palace killing others in line, likely even his father. His upbringing is bloody and steeped with fear. He finds himself given this opportunity to travel, provided he doesn’t return. He lives off the hospitality of others as his coffers are finite. He could never imagine when he was a child leaving the palace, finding love, instead of having it forced upon him for diplomacy or marrying captives and slaves. His mother was very likely a slave from Eastern Europe herself. But here he is free and in love and he can’t bring her home, not without causing a lot of trouble likely.
We also have the amazing upstairs vs downstairs drama of Edmund and Briar. His mother would kill her if she knew and she probably fumed for months after his wedding. The stolen looks, the notes passed, the trinkets left in places you know the other will look... it’s just all very dreamy, I think. Then Konevi x Chambers, this is the relationship with the highest stakes. At this point in history their relationship would be a hanging offense. The devotion to each other, the way they pine for one another, despite that hanging over their heads is beautiful. They deserve all the love in the world and I hate the thought that the two of them likely had to marry women to keep it. I just hope they foud some equally as witty and fun sapphic literary club lesbians to live their Regency lives out with as couple friends in the biggest display of wlw and mlm solidarity that Regency romance has seen.
Each of these romances are beautiful an I really do love all of them. I have such a soft spot for Ernest but his story might not be the best love story. I mean that’s what both he and MC are expected to do right? Marry individuals of equal or near equal standing and they’re both the most eligible single people of this particular season (excluding Mr. Richards). I’d say Luke Harper’s story is probably one of the most well fleshed out and developed. The longing, the devotion, all of it... just A+.
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a-voc · 6 years
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ok im just abt to start this little chain of observations here on tumblr because i have no friends to actually discuss these. so im just gonna dive in
im gonna title this villanelle & men bc im shit at titles
Oksana grew up in a dysfunctional family. She had a drunk dad, mum died for a reason that we don’t know yet (and tbh id love to be informed abt her past, her childhood, family, school friends etc) However there is no proof that this is the cause of her torture against men. The murders are more symbolic than ‘enjoying the process’ anyway as if she is trying to give a message, which then means that it is for others and not for herself. Most of the time she will kill them first, but there were some occasions she watches them suffer. I wonder what the difference is. The type of torture could also indicate something and I am hoping for the show to reveal that later (like, why their balls? why not decorate them in an embarrassing way? why not make food out of them? why is it just that area?)
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She is sapphic, could be lesbian because she didn’t seem to enjoy sex with men so far (except for the threesome but even that one is blurry). Even though she seems to target men in this way, she doesn’t seem to hate all men. Maybe just their penises lol idk.
Her relationship with Konstantin is interesting, we know she is attracted to older women. What about older men? We know she wants him to care about her, she asks such questions to check. Plays dead, 
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asks if he saved her from being removed (from the job, last episodes). I wonder if she ever saw him as a potential romantic partner or was it more like a father-daughter relationship? In the first episode, she asks them if they can watch a movie together, as in the last episode she says she is just looking for someone to watch movies with. 
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She never made an attempt but she also asks him why he never tried to have sex with her all this time (in a purely curious way, not heartbroken, not offended). I personally dont think it is romantic at all, but i also doubt what romantic means for Oksana, she had a strange relationship with Anna as well and she has a thing for older people.
Constantine is an excellent liar who can manage several people and identities at the same time. I’d say he has some anti-social traits himself. Remember how he tried to manipulate her feelings, he knows she isnt a psycho.
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He seems to care about villanelle, but not sure if he can really understand him because he is always cautious. When she kidnapped the kids, i find it peculiar that he didnt fear for her daughter's life but instead he said she will annoy her a lot. That means he understands her, and having the pills all set up also means he knew her next move. Why wont he let her come closer though? What is Villanelle’s tendency that Konstantin doesnt like? We know for sure that one person he cares about the most is his daughter. And even when villanelle is in danger somehow we dont see that little twitch on his face. 
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Villanelle also seems to have a sister-like relationship with the daughter, arguing with her like little kids and not hurting her anyway.
Also what is the connection between the women Oksana loved and the closest men in their lives? Oksana loves Anna, she kills her husband, throws a party with a huge cake. Oksana loves Eve, kills Bill (who seemed like a husband but she knew he wasnt the one), throws a party with a huge cake. 
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She throws a party for these people’s death, almost like a birthday party. dunno, birth of the freed women she loved? I cant tell how Bill effected eve though, considering she was more married to her job we could say the Boss was the husband. Anna complained abt her husband to her, when did Eve complain about Bill that she heard about it
ok now its your turn
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wlw survey results
thank you so much to everyone who participated in mine and @aliciqvikander ’s survey! we ended up getting 221 responses. below is a breakdown of each question.
disclaimer: there were a couple of responses that we considered to be disrespectful or homophobic that we decided to delete from the survey pool. the idea of this survey was to gauge the feelings & opinions of wlw skam fans regarding lgbt representation in the show; it was made with wlw fans in mind, and there were some skam fans who decided to take the survey and give disrespectful/homophobic answers, which was not the point of the survey.
part 1: demographics
what is your sexuality?
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the most common were lesbians (83 people)  and bisexuals (74 people), followed by 22 pan people and 17 questioning, only 4 straight people (whose answers we didn’t delete bc they weren’t disrespectful). there were also several people who identified as gay (4), queer (2), sapphic (2), asexual (5), or other sexualities (lesbian ace, demisexual pansexual, biromantic with a preference towards women, panromantic ace, biromantic asexual)
what is your gender?
the most common answers were female/woman/girl/cis girl, with many nb people (19), as well as several questioning people (5), and just 2 men.
what is your age?
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the most common answer was 17-19 (90), with many 20-24 year olds (62) and 14-16 year olds (51), as well as 9 25-30 year olds and 7 people over 30, and just 2 under 14.
where are you from?
there were people from all over who took the survey, but the most common answers were the US, Sweden, France, UK, Brazil, Finland, and Norway.
when did you start watching Skam?
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the most common answer by far was season 3 (155), followed by season 4 (32), then season 1 (23), then season 2 (10).
part 2: opinions
what is your favorite season?
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the most common answer was season 3 (141), then season 1 (65), then season 4 (10) and just 2 people favored season 2.
what fandoms are you a part of?
the most common answer to this was obviously tumblr (212) seeing as we posted the survey on tumblr. Other popular answers were twitter (34) and instagram (42), other than that we have some sprinkled answers such as discord, jodel and facebook. Plus some people who said they were not really active in any fandom.
who are your top 3 characters?
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the most favored characters in order are Sana (158), Isak (117), Eva (104), Even (94), Noora (59), Vilde (53), Jonas (33), Chris (16), Elias (14), Yousef (8), a tie between Magnus and Mahdi (5), Eskild (3), 2 people wanted to specify that they liked season 1 Noora, and one vote for Dr. Skrulle! (specifically: that fierce school nurse lady whose name i don't remember but she's really cool”) Nobody picked Wilhelm.
who is your favorite canon ship?
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the most picked ship was evak (166), after that we have yousana (44) and then joneva (6). four people also replied that they dont really care for any ship and there was one vote for noorhelm (although it’s worth noting that the one vote came from one of the only two men who took the survey). not one person chose vagnus.
[edit: the person who chose noorhelm messaged me to tell me that they clicked noorhelm by mistake and meant to choose yousana!]
who are your favorite non-canon ships?
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The most common answers were Nooreva (170), Evilde (156), Evana (58) and Sanoora (39). Other popular ones were Noorvilde (31), Johdi (26), Noorevilde (24), Joora (15), Chrisana and Chrilde both had 10, Mohnstad had 8, Sana x Vilde had 7, Jonas x PChris and Mikael x Jonas both had 4, and there were other assorted ships including Vilde x Some hipster girl that could have been introduced in her season (3), Vilde x The soft butch lesbian she would have dated in her season (1), Isak x PChris (2), Elias/Eskild (2), Eva/Iben (1), Noora/Mari (1), Adam x Mutta (1), Vilde x Ingrid (1)
What is Vilde’s sexuality?
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this was one of the most unified questions with a total of 204 out of 221 saying shes a lesbian! the other answers were bi (13) and pan (4)
What is Noora’s sexuality?
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the most common answer was lesbian (110), followed by bisexual (61), then straight (29), then pan (18). i think it’s worth noting that we saw a pattern that bisexual was often put by bisexuals and pansexual was also put by a lot of pansexuals, so maybe people just see themselves in Noora.
What’s Eva’s sexuality?
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This question was, as Vilde’s, very unified with 209 out of 220 answering bisexual then there were 6 people who answered pan, 4 people who answered straight, and 1 who answered lesbian.
What is Sana’s sexuality?
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this one was pretty split! the most common answer was bi (104), followed by straight (81), then pan (28), then lesbian (2).
What is Chris’s sexuality?
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this one was also pretty split! the most common answer is pan (117), followed by straight (65), then bi (22), then lesbian (11)
Opinion on queerbaiting & Vilde?
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the overwhelmingly popular opinion is that queerbaiting did happen. 109 people said there was explicit queerbaiting, 81 people said they originally meant to make Vilde a lesbian then decided not to, only 3 people said there was no queerbaiting, and there were also an array of answers, most of which say queerbaiting did happen. (“I'm super torn bc I feel Vilde is a lesbian but she doesn't realize it yet. Like I believe she would figure it out in college (and I think her dating Magnus is important in her self discovery) and ugh I wish we could get an epilogue of some sort with her a canon lesbian. Unfortunately if that doesn't happen, I feel like it is queerbaiting.”) (“julie treats lesbians like were a fucking joke”) (“i will be on my deathbed telling everyone that vilde lien hellerud was a lesbian and showing them my powerpoint on all the signs throughout the seasons but honestly idk if they really meant for her to be gay or not. she is in my heart tho.”)
opinion on noorhelm?
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the most popular answer by far was “wilhelm is an abuser who can rot in hell and Noora deserved better” (161). 27 people say they were a bad couple, 13 people say they were okay but not as bad as people say, ZERO people said they were cute, there were also an array of write-in answers, mostly negative. (“Some parts of their relationships were good, the rest - pure trash on wilhelm's part”)  (“classic romance novel damage, gaslighting & emotional manipulation”)  (“I swear to christ, WillHELL does not deserve Noora - only Eva does, duh - and their whole relationship didn't make any sense from a character point of view! Also I hate that they had to take this beautiful, strong woman's season and make it about a guy! An emotional ABUSER at that!! Like whyyyyy???????????”) (“DICKHELM NEEDS TO JUST GET OUT. PRISON. SOMEWHERE SECLUDED. NO ONE DESERVES TO LAY THEIR EYES ON HIM. i hate him with a passion i swear to fucking god I HAD TO MOTIVATE MYSELF TO WATCH S2 and i was in complete pain whenever dickhelm was on screen i hate him and NOORA IS A LIPSTICK LESBIAN DONT TELL ME OTHERWISE SHE DESERVES BETTER”)
opinion on nooreva?
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this one was pretty evenly split! the most popular answer is that they were set up as a couple (85), followed by they would be a cute couple but they were platonic in canon (80), followed by they were in love in canon (54), and only 2 people said they were just friends.
what do you think of the skam fandom?
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most people think it’s fine as far as fandoms go (126), then it was a tie between a great fandom and mostly demonic, each with 47.
for wlw: could you relate to vilde’s behavior?
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i’ll be honest with you guys, we probably should have made this a write-in question rather than multiple choice because the results were not very conclusive. 75 lesbians could see themselves in her, 64 bisexuals could see themselves in her, 13 pansexuals could see themselves in her, and 30 people said no.
part 3: long-answer questions
why do you think julie didn’t want to include wlw in the show?
the consensus was that either she’s lesbophobic, the show is written with straight people in mind, or she wanted to but ended up not finding the time to write it in. every answer was wonderful and i wish we could include them all, but here are a couple ones that i like:
bc she's a classic lesbophobic piece of shit and believes wlw can't exist except for punchlines and ridicule
probably because she thought it wouldn't sell as well as an mlm couple. i mean you gotta please those straight girls
She Is Bad at Writing and forgets wtf she is doing and hates logically developing characters
"we did one storyline about exploring sexuality so that's all we need! anything else would be overkill :)))" and also trying to appeal/relate to straight teenage girls. also noora should have been a lesbian but julie used her as a self insert character. also just generally media doesn't take wlw seriously our perceive our relationships/feelings as legitimate
cause she's a typical straight girl who thinks wlw are icky/she's actually a closeted lesbian who hasn't realised yet
are you disappointed with the lgbt representation in skam? please elaborate.
the consensus is that isak, even, and eskild are all wonderful and they’re great for what they are, which is 2 white gays and 1 white pan boy. it would have been great to have some diversity, especially by adding a wlw, specifically vilde or eva. here are a few i like:
For a show that was originally made for teenage girls and to accurately represent them its unbelievable they didnt include a single wlw character. Evak was nice but in s4 turned into complete fanservice and they lost a lot of the development they made in s3. WHERE ARE THE LESBIANS JULIE
definitely like dude evak was cute and all, and powerful and moving, and I was infinitely glad that was represented onscreen. but on the other hand—that wasn't me? and for a show that claimed to be so progressive, it seemed to mock the concept of bi girls and lesbians at every single turn. fuck, when i think about how noora's response to vilde's er du lesbisk question I still get so pissed
lol yeah julie andem treats lesbian existence as a literal joke and yet she still gets all this praise for the great lgbt rep on her show because of isak and even (and s3 was good but in s4 they didn't even feel like they're own characters anymore just a couple with all these weird nods to evak fans)
Yes, in a show meant for teenage girls the only LGBT representation was with a gay boy and a pan boy, and that's because straight girls love to fetishize and obsess over gay boys for some reason. The fact that Julie only wrote about LGBT boys indicates to me that she is writing the show not for all teenage girls, but for the straight teenage girls that she used to be.
yessss. how can we have three mlm but no wlw??? its like whooo we have a canon pan guy, but if i remember correctly he never actually says the word? and eskild is obviously written as gay, but im pretty sure we see eva and vilde kiss more times than we see eskild kiss a guy, and still they're both supposed to be straight?? and like eva, noora and vilde all have so many characteristics of lesbians/bi girls, yet NONE of them turned out to be wlw in canon?? thats so fucking unrealistic!! in my whole friend circle of about 15 girls, there's maybe three who identify as 100% straight, and multiple who have come out as bi or pan, so how come skam has none?
what did you think of season 4?
the general consensus is that it was rushed and messy, that wilhelm ruined it, and that sana was sidelined in her own season. there were a few people who said they liked it, and some pros that were written were that iman was wonderful, the balloon squad was great, the los losers scene, and that they liked yousana. here are a few great ones:
horribly written, with subtle racism and islamophobia to boot. sana deserved so much better. also, bringing back william and p-chris was so unnecessary. they were making progress with noora realizing that william never loved her and was an abuser, and then it's like they backtracked on all of that just for...what purpose? completely unnecessary. noora, vilde, and eva don't need any men in their lives, and any tying of loose ends of their stories in season 4 should have been about that.
pandering to women who fetishize evak/queer male relationships!!! also some major other bullshit!!! (why is william back wtf, why is p chris still around, why tf are evak living together theyre children, vilde needed season 6 to #come #out though so im not too mad)
I think it suffered from weak writing more than anything else. The story totally stalled out at the hiatus and Julie seemed to be unable to get it going again and then found herself without enough time to tell the whole story. She is saved as usual by the strength of her characters-- I think she's great at character building but very over-rated as a storyteller.
(this one is really long but i thought it was eloquent and great)
HAHAHAHA where to start. It’s almost my least favorite season, nearly tied with S2, though my burning hatred of William edges out. But I will say that from a writing perspective, as much as I despise Noorhelm, their relationship kept S2 anchored and prevented the season from losing focus too often. I do think S2 was messier and more bloated than S1 and S3, but it still feels like a more cohesive narrative than S4, which was so sloppy that I can’t believe the same person wrote something as tight as S3. The criticisms seem almost endless and I’ll probably forget something but here are a few off the top of my head: -TERRIBLE SEASON FOR GIRL SQUAD. This is what really surprised me about S4. It was the last chance to enjoy them as a friendship unit and most of the season they were unbearable. I’m not saying they had to have a perfect friendship, I was expecting some conflict and I was fine with that but it was almost all unpleasant moments with no good moments to balance them out. Sana having to apologize for everything but the rest of the girls never apologizing for their ignorance or hurtfulness. Eva and Chris doing nothing but partying most of the time. Vilde being an annoying caricature. Noora … I’ll get to Noora. The los losers clip is a good moment in itself but doesn’t make sense in the larger context, there are several plot holes, and we never ever hear the girls talk about their issues afterwards. -Noora was overused at the expense of the other girls, including Sana, and I couldn’t even enjoy her and Sana’s relationship because I felt like it wasn’t there to explore their friendship, but to give an excuse for Noorhelm to rise again and to get Noora involved in the stupid Sana/Yousef/Noora triangle. I loved Noora but it felt like all the other girls were unfavorably compared to her, like of course Noora got to be Sana’s ally and Vilde/Chris/Eva were just off being drunk and terrible somewhere. It got ridiculous in episode 9 when we started getting texts about Noora’s living situation, of course it’s Noora who Sana’s mom thinks is beautiful with her red lipstick, of course it was Noora who gets to give Sana detailed advice in Maghrib and the other girls have less to contribute. There were a few moments with Chris, maybe. But we got better material from Vilde, Chris, and Eva in the last episode than we’d gotten all season. -Sana taking a backseat to Noorhelm drama at the climax of her own season, enough said. -Even’s plotline being dropped … after what was widely considered a respectful portrayal of mental illness in S3, Julie hugely messed up with Even in S4. Yeah, it was Sana’s season, but maybe don’t introduce a character’s suicide attempt if you’re not going to address it properly? The utter shittiness of having a mentally ill character who says he’s tired of people trying to tell him how he feels, and never letting him give his own side of the story, only hearing it from other people. -A fight that makes no sense, a love triangle that makes no sense, characters not talking to each other just to prolong the drama, characters acting OOC, characters acting like the worst versions of themselves.   -Bad pacing, subplots being juggled and dropped and picked up and abandoned at whim, so much filler and wasted time. I've seen people say Sana was out of focus because Julie had to wrap up loose ends but like, she didn't? She spent time on bullshit no one cared about and ignored actual dangling plot threads. Why are we spending so much time on racist Pepsi Max girls and what's up with Noora and Yousef or Noora and William when we could be addressing Vilde's mysterious home life, giving Chris depth other than funny fat girl, getting into this Even sad backstory that Julie chose to introduce in Sana's season, exploring why Elias got so drunk he could barely stand... the list goes on? Not to mention, you know, focusing on SANA. I’m going to stop now because I’ll be here all day, lol. The thing is, as messed-up as this season is, I’d still rather have this than nothing, sadly, because Iman is wonderful and I enjoyed seeing her show off her acting chops. I wish she could have had a better season but I’m happy such an awesome human being got to be so visible; even if the season was disappointing, Iman being in the public eye meant a lot to Muslim girls around the world. And I’ll always be thankful to Julie for Evak, because their relationship was one aspect of canon that was consistently well-handled. Their story resonated with me and meant a lot to me. I just wish everything else in the show was treated with as much care as the Evak romance, and that S4 was as carefully and thoughtfully written as S3.
CONCLUSION: wlw skam fans were disappointed in the lack of representation, as well as the last season of the show. evak was great, but it would have meant the world to many of us to make one of the female characters not straight, especially after all of the queerbaiting. the VAST majority of people think that vilde was a lesbian, which is very telling. also wlw love sana and hate wilhelm.
bonus: some of my favorite nicknames for william: willdevil, willdick, woldemort, willhellfuck, willfickle, willhellanusfuckingdickface, also @cosa-fea who called him a “sinewy man toe”
thank you all SO MUCH for taking the survey and for giving such wonderful answers. i’m glad we can all agree on some things, like william being terrible and vilde being a lesbian.
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sapphiresea · 7 years
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Questions For LGBT Ladies #LGBTask Answer them all hehe
questions for lgbt ladies #lgbtask                        
i’ll skip the ones i’ve already done. see previous post for answers.
1 ) how do you define your sexuality? lesbian af.2 ) at what age did you first realize that you like girls? my first crush was at age 8 but i didn’t recognize it as such until i was looking back later. my first inkling was when i was thirteen and my teacher said that one in ten people are gay, which meant at least two or three of us in my class were gay and i was like, “i wonder who the others are,” and then panicked. there were a few times like that and many a woman i ‘admired’ but i didn’t acknowledge it until i was nineteen.3 ) how out are you? pretty out. there’s only a few people left in my regular life who don’t know.5 ) who was the first person you came out to? how did they take it? the first person i told was courtney, who later became my first girlfriend. so that’s how she took it lol.6 ) has coming out lost you any friends? yup. not many, thankfully, but one of my best friends from high school was dating a super-homophobic ( and just all around terrible ) guy and he convinced her to stop being my friend. and considering how disgusted she acted whenever i did talk about my gf at the time, i was kind of over it anyway. i do kind of miss her sometimes though.7 ) what is your current relationship status? in a relationship~8 ) how many gay friends do you have? online? like a billion. offline? like one lmao.9 ) how many male friends do you have? i have a few male friends but only two i’d consider myself close to: peter and miguel.10 ) have you ever cut your hair super short? nope. chin-length was the shortest i ever went and i hated it.11 ) how often do you wear flannel? listen... i counted up all the plaids in my closet a few months ago and it totalled twelve. and i have since bought at least four more. a better question is how often am i not wearing it.12 ) how much do you like cats? i’m currently trying to get a new kitten, so every time someone in the house does something well, i’m like, “wow, you deserve a kitten!” and every time they don’t, i tell them, “that’ll cost you one kitten.” so far no bites. but i really, really love cats.13 ) do you like skirts and dresses? sometimes, if i’m in the mood...which isn’t often.15 ) do you have any tattoos? if so, how many and where? i do. i have two; one on each wrist. on my right wrist is my first tattoo, a triquetra, and on my left is an infinity arrow. i just got that one a week ago.16 ) how accurate is your gaydar? unfortunately my ‘gaydar’ is often very confused with my ‘please-be-gay-dar.’17 ) have you ever been to a gay bar or a gay club? yep. we only really have one here and it mostly tailors to men and straight girls, so i don’t like it that much. i went to a couple out of town. the one in san francisco ( i’m blanking on its name ) was by far the best.18 ) how do you feel when platonic female friends refer to each other as girlfriends? it’s so annoying. straight girls who refer to their female friends as ‘girlfriend’ owe me and all other sapphics $20 cash.19 ) have you ever had a crush on a straight girl? isn’t that, like, the most universal lesbian experience?20 ) ellen or portia? excuse me, what do you mean or ??? they’re the best together. but portia is my actual hero.21 ) is your nose pierced? nope.22 ) would you ever want to get married? if i meet a woman i’m certain i want to spend my life with, absolutely.23 ) will you wear a dress for your wedding? probably. 25 ) have you ever watched the l word? i watched the first season and maybe it makes me a bad lesbian, but i couldn’t get it into it.26 ) have you ever dated a guy? yep. nothing serious, though. i mean i literally gagged kissing one of them, so...27 ) how do you feel when someone uses the word gay to mean stupid, dumb, or boring? they’re probably stupid, dumb, and boring if they’re still using it for that.28 ) how many rainbow items do you own? lmao so many. my favorite recent addition is monty puckers, my stuffed gay gorilla.29 ) have you ever been to a pride festival? i just went to the one in my city last week.30 ) have you ever celebrated national coming out day ( october 11 )? i’ll usually post stuff about it and in support of all my lgbt siblings, but i’ve never uesd it to come out, myself.31 ) have you ever participated in the national day of silence? considering this is the first i’ve heard of it, no. but now i’m going to google to find out more.32 ) have you ever worn a woman’s suit? no, but women in suits 💯👌🏻👅 sign me tf up.33 ) have you ever worn any men’s clothing? i own a couple flannels from the men’s section and a few tees, but not really. i like my stuff more fitted.35 ) do you consider yourself a feminist? absolutely. intersectional, of course.36 ) who is your favorite lgbt celebrity? kate mckinnon, in case you can’t tell from my blog, is my #1. portia de rossi, stephanie beatriz, aubrey plaza, ani difranco, and melissa etheridge are pretty high up there, too.37 ) are you religious at all? yes. i don’t go to church every sunday anymore, but i do consider myself a non-denominational christian.38 ) how often do you find yourself trying to sneak a peak or staring at a cute female? i stare a lot. it’s kind of a problem.39 ) what is your ideal first date? usually for first dates, i like something lowkey where we can just get to know each other. after that, i like stuff like arcades and amusement parks and lots of movie dates and netflix.40 ) are you comfortable with terms such as lezzie, lesbo, or dyke? i’m great with them if they come from other lesbians. if they come from non-lesbians, no. miss me with that homophobic crap. it’s not yours to reclaim.41 ) how outdoorsy are you? i’m allergic to sun, so not very. i love the forest and walking down by the river and visiting elbow falls and such, but i can’t really do much of that anymore without ending up wanting to die.42 ) in general, has being out affected your relationships with other females? sometimes it’s really weird and i do notice them treating me differently, but usually it’s fine.43 ) how much makeup do you typically wear? not a lot, but i do wear a full face any time i’m going out or having company over. i just feel more comfortable with it.45 ) are you more feminine or more masculine? definitely femme. even if i don’t wear the heels.46 ) how long is the longest relationship you’ve been in? are you still with that person? coming up on nine months and yes. 47 ) have you and a girlfriend ever been mistaken for sisters? no. i don’t usually date girls who look enough like me lol.48 ) do you think it is possible for someone to truly be a 50/50 bisexual, or is the percentage always skewed in favor of one gender? i think it’s not my place to decide how other people experience attraction.49 ) have you ever wished you were completely straight? i used to when i was younger. now i’m really glad i’m not because girls are amazing and i love being a lesbian.50 ) do you watch any lesbian youtubers? sometimes. usually stevie or ally hills or hannah hart. i don’t watch any youtubers regularly though.51 ) do you like wearing combat boots or doc martins? motorcycle boots are my jam.52 ) have you ever been hit on by another female? yes. often. and a shining moment for me was being asked out by a girl while waiting for my date ( another girl ) to arrive. ( i said ‘no,’ obviously, but i was proud of myself. )53 ) how athletic are you? 0%. faked injuries to get out of p.e.; only runs when chased.55 ) what is your opinion of septum/bull nose piercings? not really into it, personally, but if that’s what makes you happy, i’m not judging. some chicks look really hot with them.56 ) what does equality mean to you? it means equal rights and protections under the law, but it also means that one day those laws won’t even be needed because people won’t have to be told that we’re human, too. it means no more stupid ass debates about whether companies can deny service to lgbt patrons or idiots on television saying lesbians caused the hurricanes. it means that kids won’t grow up thinking straight is the only option or that they’re somehow bad or wrong for being lgbt. it means we won’t all be assumed to be straight or cis.57 ) if you are not a full blown lesbian, about what percentage of the time do you find yourself attracted to other females? uhhhh? i don’t know? i don’t fall for every girl i see, if that’s the question. i definitely notice when girls are really attractive. 58 ) have you ever shared clothes with a girlfriend? no, but honestly...goals.59 ) have you ever liked or dated a girl with the same name as you? no. that’s, like, one of my main criteria. it would be way too weird. and unfortunately i have one of the most common names for sapphic women around here. i would, however, make an exception for stephanie beatriz. 60 ) how flirty are you? i can be pretty flirty, but usually only with people i’m in relationships with or who have already expressed interest in me.61 ) are you a virgin? no.62 ) do you listen to any lgbt musicians such as tegan and sara, melissa etheridge, or chely wright? all of the above, yes. i almost exclusively listen to lgbt artists, with a few exceptions like rob giles and emily kinney.63 ) have you ever been told that you are too pretty to be gay? yes. which i think is missing the entire point. other girls are too pretty for me not to be gay, and i’m not wasting myself on a dude.65 ) have you ever driven an suv or a pickup truck? i have not, as i am a terrible driver who would like the smallest car possible to avoid collision. i have, however, been picked up for dates in both and yes. a+ 10/10 do recommend.66 ) are you or have you ever been a tomboy? as a kid i always thought i wanted to be a tomboy but was far too girly...turns out i was just in love with the tomboys.67 ) agree or disagree: everyone is at least a little bit gay. disagree. sexuality is fluid for some and less for others.68 ) what personality trait are you most attracted to? sense of humor and kindness.69 ) boobs or butts? eyes. but also boobs.70 ) beer or wine? vodka.71 ) do you have a favorite lesbian movie? up until recently, it was imagine me & you. now it’s for sure a million happy nows. i’m still sobbing.72 ) from 1-10, how attractive are muscular women? 10/10.73 ) from 1-10, how attractive are women who wear glasses? depends on the girl and the glasses but 8-10/10.75 ) from 1-10, how attractive are curvy/plus-size women? 10/10. 76 ) from 1-10, how attractive are women with short hair? i tend toward being attracted to long hair but honestly there are so many stunners with short hair like 15/10.77 ) from 1-10, how attractive are masculine butch women? 10/10. although i usually go for a little femininity. that futch aesthetic is my greatest weakness.78 ) from 1-10, how attractive are highly intelligent women? 10/10.79 ) from 1-10, how attractive are tall women ( i.e. around 6 feet or taller )? wow. lemme climb you. i mean what80 ) have you ever been on your period the same time as a girlfriend? yes? 81 ) has a girl ever dumped you for a guy? no, i don’t think so.82 ) do you carry a purse? i try to avoid it.83 ) do you have any lgbt relatives? my mom’s uncle was gay and had a successful drag show in vancouver, but i was never allowed to meet him before he died. otherwise, nope. just me.85 ) would you ever date a trans girl? i mean, probably.86 ) how well do you think lgbt women are portrayed in television? lol that’s a joke, right? i’ve seen some good reps but usually we’re side characters or killed off and there isn’t a whole lot of diversity, so tv really needs to up its game as a whole.87 ) have you ever had a crush on a woman who’s much older than you? listen... i’m the queen of falling for older women. i once dated a woman who was almost twice my age. although tbh it was a bit of a mistake for other reasons.88 ) do you have any celebrity crushes? do i??? someone find me lauren cohan so i can propose immediately.89 ) do you have any opinions on lgbt people in the military? yeah, my opinion is fuck off with your homophobia and transphobia. someone’s risking their life to keep your company safe, you can shut the fuck up about what’s between their legs or who they choose to spend their lives with.90 ) do you believe in love at first sight? nah. i believe in attraction / crushes / lust and being really drawn to someone, but you can’t know you love someone until you actually know them as a person. otherwise you’re just projecting your ideas of what you want them to be.91 ) would you ever have a threesome? if so, would a guy be included? i’m too jealous for a threesome. i’d just be crying the whole time lmao. and a guy would never, ever be included even if i did somehow change my mind.92 ) where do you think is the best place to meet a potential lover? ideally? out in the wild, like, in class or at a bookstore or something. realistically, on an app like her.93 ) is there such a thing as “good” lesbian porn? i’m sure somewhere out there it exists, but i’ve yet to find it.95 ) how often do you wear a bra? whenever i go out or have company over. if i’m just lounging at home, i don’t tend to bother.96 ) have you ever been part of a softball team? nope. like i said, 0% athletic.97 ) if you could live your life all over again, would you still be attracted to other women? well, it wasn’t really a choice to begin with? but if it was, yes, i would.98 ) what stereotype about lgbt women do you disagree with the most? miss me with that predatory lesbian bullshit.99 ) what advice would you give a girl who is struggling to figure out her sexuality? give yourself time. don’t do anything you aren’t comfortable with. labels can be great, but don’t stress too hard if you don’t know what you are or don’t want to define yourself. just respect yourself and do what makes you happy. and fuck what other people think.100 ) what advice would you give a girl who is struggling to come out? be safe and don’t feel pressured to tell anyone you don’t want to tell. your safety and comfort is top priority.
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Hrrrng my friend sent this tiktok she must've thought I'd find funny and it boils down to a bi person making fun of their attraction to men implying its somehow worse than experiencing attraction to women blah blah and like... I'm having a hard time finding the words to explain to my friend that I don't relate to that, it's not funny, and I don't want to be shown videos like that. I'm surprised by how upset I am actually, I knew stuff like that was trendy but I avoid it so being sent it directly and unknowingly watching it, I'm just, not happy. I don't know, I know I need to tell her because I do not want to keep getting sent stuff like that, I know she'll respect that, I just don't know how to say it without sounding really angry. Cause like, I am angry. I'm not ashamed of any facet of my attraction.
I do feel weirdly ashamed of myself though, this feels like I brought this on myself, I tend to talk about my attraction to women more than what I feel for men but the reasons for that are complicated (gender stuff, I wouldn't even know where to start). I hate that people interpret that as "oh you must not actually like men then". I do like men. I absolutely like men! I wouldn't say I like men if I didn't!!! This is more venting than a question at this point, that's my bad. But any encouragement given is appreciated. I know I gotta just tell her. Ugh.
God, I'm so sorry you had to see that. I absolutely hate this type of narrative about bisexuality. It's definitely some kind of weird mix of internalised biphobia with a little dash of radfem rhetoric. Some bi women seem to think they are only valid sapphics if they scold themselves for liking men. That makes me feel sorry for them but also often angry that they don't see how shitty it is to reproduce that (while disguising it as a funny meme). They are doing a huge disservice to the bi community by keeping this narrative going. So many young bisexuals are seeing this and think that's the way that bisexuality works but that's neither true nor helpful.
I think you've already stated pretty clearly here why you don't want to see that kinda content. Maybe this post has some more useful input but I think it's actually fine to start by telling your friend "actually that's not funny. I don't see why bi people should be ashamed for their attraction to men and I'd prefer not being send that kind of stuff" and if your friend wants to know more about it, feel free to send her that post I've linked to or just explain that it's a harmful biphobic narrative especially amongst young bi women that attraction to men is somehow bad or that they need to be sorry for that in order to be acceptable queers but that you do not want to be a part of that narrative bc you aren't ashamed of liking men and so shouldn't anybody else.
I hope this conversation goes well and it honestly doesn't have to be a big discussion. But it's important that you say it and between friend it should be fine to say one's opinion. Especially if something hurt you.
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