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#anti got season 8
hacked-wtsdz · 2 years
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We all hate season 8 of got because of Daenerys and Jon’s destroyed characters, but I’ve been rewatching it with my brother, and the battle of Westeros bothers me more and more. The point of the prophecy that plays quite a big role in the books is that a Targaryen shall conquer the death that comes from the north with fire and blood. And yet, neither Jon, nor Dany did. They were both there, fighting, yes, but the conqueror was Arya. Which threw the entire prophecy arc (that served as a motivator to generations of Targaryens) out of the window. Asoiaf was about Targaryens as well as the Starks and the Lannisters, perhaps a bit more about the Targaryens, since Jon and Dany are both major characters and both are Targs, but got just made it all about the Starks in the end. The Starks sitting on the iron throne, the Starks winning against the Night King, the Starks getting their family home back. While Dany just got killed off so that Sansa and Bran could get an end to their stories that the show runners surely thought to be satisfying (spoiler: it isn’t).
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targaryen--rhaenyra · 2 years
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When hotd keeps talking about the White Walkers and you think back to how they were treated in Got...
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strickland527 · 1 year
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I’m watching the end of His Dark Materials and as an adaptation it had its successes and failures. But it (and the books) really nailed the ending. It’s the definition of bittersweet.
And since they stuck the landing my thoughts go back to Thrones and how utterly it failed in its ending. It’s something I come back to from time to time, trying to think about why the ending failed and why it is now the definition of “worst ending ever”. In the end, I think it’s the banality of the ending that ruins it. In a series about violence and how it corrupts and how it spreads and how it ruin, the climax is the most banal form of violence: by a man against a woman, his lover.
That’s it. That’s the climax. Of an epic series spanning continents and disparate POVs. It’s just banal. It’s just common.
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reviewpri · 2 years
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had they (DnD) relied in the “ shades of grey” motto that permeats most of ASOIAF and GoT, they could have made season 8 something remarkable.
Have Jon truly bond with Rhaegal;
Have his Stark siblings be alarmed at this turn of events, especially when he is revealed to be Aegon, and his attempts at appeasing them;
Have the Long Night be devastating and over months, not just a night. 
Make clear Daenerys is burning the exists of Kings Landing so that Cersei do not escape and show the caskets of wildfire exploding as result;
Have Jaime kill Cersei at the Throne Room, and kill himself afterwards;
Have Tyrion blame Daenerys, Daenerys points out Tyrion´s hipocrisy and Jon be in the middle;
Have Daenerys lash out at Jon for not being a true Dragon, for not taking her side. Have her command Drogon to burn the Throne and fly away from Westeros, forsaking her claim;
When a Great Council is called, have the Iron Islands and Dorne siding with Daenerys, Riverlands and the Vale as neutral and The North and the Westerlands against  Targaryens ( a difference Jon bitterly note). 
Have the new Lord of The Reach- not Bronn- suggest they name a new King instead;
Show Sansa and Tyrion demanding that Samuel Tarly do not speak of Jon Snow parentage as another Targ on the Throne would be “ too dangerous.”- let the three of them discuss what is to be done with Jon- nobody knows where Rhaegal is.
Let Jon be aware of his family machinations but since he truly, truly “ does not want it”, let Jon choose to leave north to be with the wildlingsand meet with both his wolf and his dragon.
The great mistake- outside the obvious racism and misoginy- of season 8 was to use retcons to purposedely make Daenerys the sole responsible for everything. I get they wanted to completely absolve all other characters of any guilt and they wanted a scapegoat, but Westeros has never been a good land t o begin with.
A truly bittersweet ending is when nobody knows who the villain was or if there were any true heroes.
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cancerian-woman · 2 months
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I wish people stop downplaying the racism that ingrained in Bonnie’s plot because comparing her and Hayley is not the serve you think it is. Did Hayley have a it bad? Yes, but in no way was she treated as a plot device the way Bonnie was lol.
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missmayhirai · 1 year
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Daenerys and her boys 🥺🥺🥺 oh how I miss early GOT seasons 😭😭
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abrideofdrogons · 8 months
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se8ep4 is so painful because why is san/sa literally giving the stink eye half the episode, especially after daenerys legitimizes gen/dry because how does that personally affect her in any way, shape, or form
watching the scene where show!j/on laughs & swings his feet along with tor/mund & da/vos about being a madman or a king because he rode a dragon & then looking at daenerys without including her despite her being the only reason j/on was able to ride a dragon is so incredibly painful
& then va/rys is sitting there trying to diagnose daenerys the same way some parts of this fandom does is actually wild to me because why does a woman who is sad his worst fear
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growingstrong2019 · 14 days
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If only Dany had listened to her and not Tyrion, she could’ve took Kingslanding without losing missandei and Rhaegal. And probably wouldn’t of gone insane and burnt Kingslanding to the ground.
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rhaenin-time · 2 months
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I will offer HBO my full forgiveness if they have Helaena start seeing visions of Game of Thrones and by the time she reaches Season 8 it's so bad that it drives her to jump on to the spikes and her last words are something like, "Don't forget about the Iron Fleet."
I will accept an "it was all a fever dream." You have a chance to, for the first time, acceptably pull off the "it was all a dream" bit. Do not forsake it.
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hacked-wtsdz · 2 years
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I hate hate hate how in the end Jon got turned into a saint self-sacrificing saviour, and Dany got turned into a ruthless mad queen ready to sacrifice millions for a cause. When in the books Jon is more cruel than Dany, and Dany isn’t just hesitant or reluctant but outright against and refusing to murder innocents.
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Me waking up to a bunch of comments on my post about Rhaenyra and Nettles proving my point that society will literally coddle a white woman when she’s being racist and give her a thousand excuses they give nobody else.
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But anyways @bohemian-nights summarized all I had to say:
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That’s all that really needs to be said.
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martianbugsbunny · 5 months
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Death of the male character to bolster the female one is a sign of weakness. huge red flag. don't trust you if you do it. if you kill Danny Ocean to put his sister in the spotlight that's a no-go. if you have to have to have the Hulk's cousin belittle him to make her look strong that's a hard pass. if you have to make Loki less competent to define "Lady Loki's" power that's a turnoff. make her stand on her own two feet without touching him or admit you've got nothing.
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fromtheseventhhell · 7 months
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The worst part of the GOT and HOTD adaptations is that they remove any sense of narrative or themes being explored from George's writing. The showrunners rewrite characters and change plotlines on a whim and remove any sense of cohesive storytelling. There's just...literally no point to the story and the writers struggle to come up with sensible explanations for the changes they've decided to make.
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daenerysthefirst · 8 months
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D&D: "Dany evil, she kills evil men! She mad! Killing evil men bad!
George R.R. Martin: “I wish I had a dragon I could fly to the Kremlin!”
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slayer-of333lies · 2 years
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Old, but gold
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I'll never get over it...
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letmespammylife · 1 year
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Maybe a hot take, but Daenerys/Jon would have been a terrific lovers-to-enemies ship, with Dany going mad and Jon having to kill her, if D&D had not fucked up Jon's character and if other characters had recognised Dany's moral corruption before the very end (yes Tyrion, I'm looking at you)
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