#ask midge

[febookworm]

I just want someone who looks at me the way Lenny Bruce looks at Midge

#the marvelous mrs. maisel #mrs maisel #tmmm s5 #tmmm #lenny bruce #midge maisel #midge x lenny #luke kirby #luke kirby the actor you are #rachel brosnahan #is it too much to ask

[lens-guy-art]

Happy (early) Halloween!! :)

Midge: Aww! A mini titan! Here have this pumpkin little one!

Vester: Heh, cute.. Pick one treat here, kid. It's homemade..

(Encore/Riff and Shatter are unavailable due to commiting spoooky chaos)

#ok i lied abt going to sleep but i cant help but nyoom over to finish this.. ok ok im sleeping after postinf this gn #my art #skibidi toilet oc #OC: Vester #OC: Midge #skibidi oc #sketchy #ask #not my oc #oc kindle #skibidi toilet #skibidi toilet ocs

[ellisdelanceys]

Someone really called me a "Pick Me" because I said that true Barbie fans hate the Barbie movie.

Ah, yes, because being against tearing down others in order to "build others up," vilifying beloved kind characters to make some kind of social commentary, and mocking beloved characters and brands totally makes me a Pick Me Girl. 🙄 (I never even said the treatment of men is why I hate the movie, but it is a reason why. But certainly not the only, the first, or even the biggest reason why for me.)

People really just throw that fucking term at any woman that hate. I've heard of characters who are the opposite of a "Pick Me" being called that by haters, just because they couldn't think of any other insult to throw at her.

If being a fucking decent person makes me a "Pick Me," if not wanting characters and a brand (that have brought so many people happiness for decades) that I have loved since my early childhood makes me a "Pick Me," then I will proudly be a fucking "Pick Me."

The people who simp for this garbage film are truly a damn cult.

#Another person asked me ''Why?'' because I said true Barbie fans hate the movie. #BECAUSE IT VILIFIES KEN (*KEN* of all people) AND IS A COMPLETE MOCKERY OF BARBIE!! #The character AND the brand! And every other character. (Ken and Alan and Midge... the rest are just Fashionista dolls.) #ken carson defense squad #anti barbie movie #anti greta gerwig #rant #txt

[crudetautology]

#The Marvelous Mrs Maisel #Midge Maisel #Lenny Bruce #Joel Maisel #Gordon Ford #Susie Myerson #the Loco Amor-'Til There Was You scene is just THE SCENE in terms of romantic dance scenes on this show #But the Shall We Dance-proposal is a strong contender. One of (if not the only) time I went ''I get it Miriam!'' in regards to Joel #Reid Scott is so hot but this scene is not even close to being on the same level as the preceding two #(nor of course should it be because´this scene's purpose isn't to be achingly/purely romantic like the other two) #but it introduced me to Beginning To See The Light so it stays! #And how could I not include that scene with Susie I ask you! Flirty & cute! #gif.post

[thatseventiesbitch]

If Donna and her parents moved to Point Place, and into the house neighboring the Formans', the summer between 8th and 8th grade: how would her relationship with Eric (Hyde, and Kelso) be different? How would it be the same? How would it develop?

Thank you for the ask!

Ooh, interesting. If Donna and Eric didn't grow up next door to each other, but instead Donna moved to Point Place in middle school, I think...

Donna and Eric

Their families wouldn't be close in the same way they are in canon. Red & Kitty and Bob & Midge used to vacation together and be very close when their kids were smaller, it was only later/into the '70s when Bob and Midge started falling in with all the fads of the time that they became 'weird' to Red & Kitty and grew apart (sort of). Hence I always imagine Eric and Donna having an almost cousin-like relationship when they were growing up - the others' parents were their second set of parents/second home, their two families shared traditions, they were raised together and went through childhood together, giving them an almost familial bond. I think if the Pinciottis had moved to Point Place later, that relationship between the two families (and thus, between Eric and Donna) would've been very different. I don't know that Red & Kitty and Bob & Midge would become friends at all. They'd probably just be those crazy new neighbors next door to the Formans.

Eric and Donna, however, would still become fast friends. Their relationship might start out contentious (like it did in canon), maybe based on some sort of misunderstanding, but Eric's sincerity quickly wins Donna over. He realizes she's lonely and doesn't know anyone in town yet (not that she'll say that, stubborn girl), maybe she's always out playing basketball alone in her driveway, and Eric invites her to the basement and brings her into the gang.

Eric (and the other guys) would have a raging crush on her right from the get-go, but Donna would make it clear she only has platonic feelings for any of them. They'd become a tight-knit little gang before middle school was over - sort of 'Wendy and her lost boys' (which is pretty much what I imagine in canon, too). Eric would always defend her when the other guys (ok, mostly Kelso) blurred those boundaries or made her feel uncomfortable. That's how he wins over her trust.

By high school, Donna's developed full-fledged feelings for Eric but doesn't know how to express them/what to do about them. She's afraid of making a move or revealing her true feelings, and their friendship changing. From here on out, it pretty much matches canon. 🤷‍♀️

Others

I think Kelso, Hyde, and Eric would all be infatuated with her when she first arrives, and they'd all develop varying ranges of crushes on her.

Hyde's crush on Donna might escalate quicker than it did in canon - considering Eric and Donna don't have that 'childhood sweethearts' backstory - but I think it would have the same ultimate outcome: Donna tells him she just doesn't have feelings for him like that, but sees him as a good friend. Hyde struggles to accept this - even more so when Donna and Eric start to date in high school. He's hurt by her choice, her rejection, and for awhile he passive-aggressively takes it out on both Eric and Donna until they all eventually resolve it.

I actually think Donna and Kelso's relationship would remain pretty much the same. Ditto to her and Jackie, who would still join the gang around Donna's junior year of high school when she starts dating Kelso.

#thanks for the ask! #that 70s show #that '70s show #eric and donna #eric x donna #otp: mom and dad #eric forman #donna pinciotti #red forman #kitty forman #bob pinciotti #midge pinciotti #michael kelso #steven hyde #ask #answered #those70scomics

[thatbanditqueen]

idk if you’ve heard about that roman empire trend on twitter and tiktok but… midge and e are my roman empire😭

Oh fuck me, this just made me smile because - same!

That whole trend cracks me up, because when I met my husband he was reading this non-fiction (nonfiction?!?) book Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in a coffee shop, and he brought it there often, and I was convinced he was a pretentious asshole (and I was right, but that is also something I find attractive, at least at first...). Anyway, the idea that boys are spending their free time thinking and dreaming about conquering stuff and Julius Caesar CRACKS me up.

E and midge are my roman empire too, I spend my free time (and my work time often) daydreaming head canons, and sometimes if I don't write in my notes app, they are gone....

I just starting scribbling some thoughts for the next chapter, thinking that only a few of my friends still care about this wip, so I need to thank you for your message, it is very reaffirming to know if people are still interested? I always am shocked anyone reads my stuff or thinks about it, besides me. And the few people I badger into reading it.

I love our fandom so much, thanks for taking the time to write to me.

xoxoxxoxox

norahhhhhhh

#elvis presley #elvis fanfiction #elvis x oc #elvis presley fanfiction #the only sure thing #elvis and midge are my roman empire #bandit queen asks #xoxox

[theycallme-thejackal]

Vigilante Shit

Part 1 | Part 2

She runs the bath and looks at herself in the mirror. The little makeup she’d been wearing earlier has streaked her face, so she scrubs until her cheeks are red and raw, and then she sinks into the hot water.

It’s too hot, punishing almost, but it seeps into her muscles and makes her think about something other than the potential fate her kids’ father will face in the coming days. Only for a moment, though.

Lenny’s been more of a father to your kids than Joel has.

She sinks beneath the water, not giving a damn about her hair as she tries to flush Mei’s voice out of her brain. She was right. Midge knows she was right. It’s a sentiment Ethan has expressed in recent months - in so many words. He calls Lenny Dad. Esther calls him Daddy and pitches fits any time she sees Midge packing her suitcase to stay at Joel’s.

She stays under until her lungs are screaming for air, and she emerges with a gasp.

There’s a knock on the door, and she furrows her brow. Unless her husband figured out how to alter time and space, there’s no way he could -

“Miriam, it’s me.”

Susie’s voice is the gentlest Midge has ever heard it, and she knows Lenny called her. “You can come in,” she calls. “I’m in the bath.”

Her best friend opens the door slowly and then sits on the edge of the tub. “You okay?” She asks.

Midge hugs her legs to her chest and rests her chin on her knees. “No,” she whispers. “I’m really not.”

Susie huffs a breath. “Every time I think your ex can’t be a bigger schmuck, he proves me wrong.”

“Yeah,” Midge breathes. “How much did Lenny tell you?”

“Just that Mei caught Joel cheating and you were freaked about it.”

Midge nods. “She pretty much told me that...if her family decides to deal with it, she really can’t do anything to stop them,” she explains. “And I don’t think she particularly wants to stop them anyway.”

Susie furrows her brow. “Isn’t the first rule of being a doctor that you aren’t supposed to kill people?”

Despite herself, Midge laughs, and it feels good. It feels good to have someone here with her who isn’t afraid of cracking a rather dark joke. “She can probably make it look like an accident,” she adds.

“You need me to cancel tomorrow?” Susie asks.

Fuck. Midge had forgotten all about the gig. A small show at a club in Midtown, but she’s the headliner. “No,” she answers. “No, I need to go. Lenny will be back by then, so I think I’ll be okay.”

“No offense, but your husband doesn’t seem like he could win a fight,” Susie points out.

“He can’t,” Midge agrees. “The man has been thrown through a window on two separate occasions. But just having him there will make it easier not to have a meltdown on stage.”

“Want me to send the guys?” Susie offers instead, and Midge’s instinct says no, but the truth is that having some protection is probably a good idea.

“Sure,” she answers.

Susie raises her brows in surprise. “Fuck, you really are freaked, aren’t you?”

Midge sighs and extends her legs, leaning back in the tub and letting the bubbles cover her. “My ex-husband’s wife just told me that in the next few days, I might have to tell my children their father is...” She stops. “So yeah, I’m scared.”

Susie nods and looks around the bathroom before reaching into her jacket. “Pot?”

---

Lenny gets home a little after midnight.

He sets his suitcase by the door and follows the sound of voices out to the back porch.

Midge is sitting on the top stair to the yard, inhaling from a joint, and Susie turns to look at him. “That’s my cue,” she says, stealing the joint back and taking one last drag.

His wife looks up at him, and the relief on her face is obvious. “You don’t have to go,” he tells Susie.

“Nah, I should get back to Denise,” Susie reasons, waving him off.

“Say hi for me,” Midge requests, and Susie pats her back before nodding to Lenny.

“Thanks, Susie. I owe you one,” he says.

“You’re fucking my star client. You owe me a million.” Midge laughs at that, it it’s the sweetest sound he’s ever heard.

He takes the seat vacated by Susie, and Midge passes him the joint. He’s been clean four years now, but he occasionally allows himself the indulgence of a toke. And right now, he really needs it.

He holds the smoke in his lungs, letting it work its magic as he looks out over their backyard. A luxury in Manhattan, for sure, but it’s something that makes them both happy. A place where their kids can play and they can relax. Or sit and share a joint.

He passes it back to his wife and asks, “How are you?”

“High,” she answers, making him chuckle quietly. “And...” She groans in annoyance. “I’m so fucking angry, Lenny.”

“Yeah, I’m not too happy myself,” he agrees.

“Why couldn’t he just learn his lesson the first time?” She cries. “Should I not have let him off the hook so easily? If I’d just kept the kids from him and refused to speak to him, would he have learned his fucking lesson and stopped putting his dick in twenty-two-year-olds behind his wife’s back?”

Lenny watches her, feeling his heart clench, and he reaches for her hand, squeezing it gently in her lap. “Sweetheart, this is in no way your fault. Joel makes his own choices.”

“Literally all he had to do was not fuck another woman. That’s it,” she seethes. “And now I’m looking at a world where I very well might have to explain to my children why Daddy can’t see them anymore.”

He sits quietly with her while she takes another hit. “This sucks,” he says as he strokes his thumb over the back of her hand.

“It totally sucks,” she agrees as she exhales and then slumps against his side, resting her head on his shoulder.

Lenny rests his nose on the crown of her head and kisses her hair. “I’m sorry I wasn’t here earlier.”

She hums a quiet sigh. “You’re here now,” she replies, wrapping her arms around his waist. “Thank you for calling Susie.”

“A purely selfish act,” he responds. “I would’ve crawled out of my skin if I knew you were here alone.”

“Well I still appreciate it.”

He grazes his fingertips along her shoulder. “Want to get some sleep?”

“I don’t think I’ll be able to sleep,” she answers quietly.

“Want me to make you come until you pass out?”

She snorts a laugh and then looks up at him. “I love you,” she whispers.

“I love you, too.” He kisses the tip of her nose.

#midgelenny #midge x lenny #midgexlenny #tmmm fanfic #marvelous mrs. maisel fanfic #otp: more important than god #jackal fics #leigh asked for this ages ago and i just got around to finishing it

[twyz]

Midge midge midddgggeee!!!

#twyz #twyz's ocs #hes my favorite lil guy currently #im taking all asks about him #answering everything #vampire oc #Midge Larue (oc) #digital art #made in ibis paint

[sergeantpixie]

midgelenny miami motel scene, my beloved 🥰

in a swimming pool!!!

#asks #forasecondtherewedwon #midgelenny #your smut is fantastic but the build up alone in this fic… #the palladinos should be kneeling at your feet #also i love the ‘seeing a rose a little won’t do’ line so much!!! #i can hear midge saying it #my tumblr is just me trying to trick all of my favorite writers into being my friends

[alixinwwonderland]

What would you say the show showed Lenny’s love language as? Quality Time?

Actually, I'd say it's acts of service and/or words of affirmation.

Even before he's a "love interest," while he's still primarily a friend and mentor to Midge, Lenny lets his generosity do the talking. He bails Midge out in return for her bailing him out, but then he goes further: he makes sure she gets to Susie okay, he invites her to the Vanguard, and, later, he breaks Sophie's blackball for her. He does favors for her that he wouldn't for anyone else, because, as he says, "You know I like you, and normally I would do anything in my power to make you feel better."

But mixed in with all of that is his words of affirmation. It starts simply, with him using his microphone (literally and figuratively) to tell others how great she is.

But then it goes beyond that. The deeper he gets into being actively in love with her, rather than caring about her solely as a friend, the more he lets his guard down, and the more he says the loveliest things to her in lieu of actually saying "I love you."

And it seems like he blossoms under the same things. Midge's words to him aren't phony, or trying to get something from him — so her compliments mean something. Just look at the glistening eyes and hear the crack in his voice when she says "lucky girl" about Kitty coming to stay with him, as if no one's ever said that about him. But even more than that, see the way he reacts when Midge shows up for him the same way he shows up for her. It's how he falls for her.

#lenny bruce #midgelenny #tv: the marvelous mrs maisel #ship: you're still staring #ch: lenny bruce #ch: midge maisel #misc: asks #thank you for the asks feel free to keep them coming #it's a great distraction from how slow my current fic writing is

[katzell]

your thoughts on the marvelous mrs. maisel finale? especially, the conclusion of the lenny and midge’s storyline?

Thank you so much for the ask!

I've been thinking about it for weeks, so it's time to get into it. I'm going to mainly address the Lenny and Midge part of the question, mostly because addressing everything else would make this far longer than it already is. And boy is it long. Here we go!

After years of ranting and raving, I now know when there is a version of a show I am watching and a completely different show the writers are creating. When I realize the show I want isn't something the showrunners are interested in, I cut and run.

I nearly dropped Maisel many times over the years as it became clear Midge was never going to have her big break before the finale. It would rather spin its wheels and have more family dinners and musical numbers than grapple with the real dangers of being in show business in the 1950s and 1960s. Midge and Lenny was the only thing that kept me going, and paradoxically it was because Lenny was going to die rather than in spite of it.

I never carried an ounce of hope that Lenny was going to escape the real fate of Lenny Bruce. When the Palladinos introduced Lenny in the pilot, they never meant for him to be a regular character. It was supposed to be a fun nod to the comedians of the time and the kind of comedy the Palladinos were inspired to explore in the series. And then Luke Kirby gave a mesmerizing, unforgettable performance. From that point forward, ASP was always very careful to make most of the characters who populate Midge's world fictional versions of real people. The decision to call him Lenny Bruce and not David Blake (or something better) put limits on what that character could realistically be or do.

For ASP, saving Lenny would have meant undercutting the few ties to reality Maisel had established. And I I agree with her. Especially given how little the show really seemed interested in exploring the darkness of that world. Sexism, racism, antisemitism, homophobia were all present, but the tone was always more light and whimsical. Which is why we got so many interminable boring overindulgent musical sequences.

Knowing that Lenny's death was coming filed in some of the shadows the show itself danced (literally) around. It also allowed me to enjoy Midge and Lenny as a pair of star crossed lovers who could have saved each other, but ultimately don't because of both their own faults and the societal forces around them.

Accepting those limits, I found really beautiful tragedy in Lenny's final two appearances. The opening scene broke me. I was prepared for him to die, but I wasn't prepared to watch him fail. Immediately after the episode I was upset with that narrative choice, but rewatching his previous appearances I came to agree this moment carries more narrative weight than one terrible phone call ever could. Midge watching Lenny fail and not confronting him after was set up in season four. And it's a tragedy of miscommunication on both their parts that comes from a place of love and respect.

Lenny told Midge when he woke up on her couch that he never wanted her to save him again. He was so embarrassed at the idea of Midge seeing him at his worst that he fled her home without his shoes, without using the bathroom, almost in a state of undress. Lenny also made clear to Midge that his drug use wasn't something he would discuss with her in the hotel room. Lenny so desperately wanted Midge to be impressed by him. And yet that desire ultimately prevents any chance Midge has of actually getting close to him. At Carnegie Hall, he realizes for the first time how carefully Midge listens to him and appreciates him. The thought terrifies him. Suddenly his best self seems like it might ruin Midge. So he bolts.

Lenny and Midge could talk about the struggle of comedy and even nod to the ways the world was inhospitable to people who lived outside of the accepted cultural mores of the time, but Lenny could never bring himself to share with her the nature of his addiction. For Lenny, this subject was far more taboo and unspeakable than religion, race, and sex. Because unlike those topics, society saw (and still sees) addiction as a personal failing. For all that Lenny could call bullshit on some things, he internalized this myth. If Lenny had been more honest with Midge, if he had gotten out of the cab and gone back upstairs, if he had let Midge know more about his drug use, if he had asked Midge to bring an umbrella to support him for more than national television appearances, Midge would never have let him fall on his own.

Midge remembers everything Lenny ever said to her. His words are maxims, even prophesies. Midge believes Lenny even when she shouldn't. We see her quoting him often. She carries his fortune with her for the rest of her life. It's such a clear indication of her love for him, but it's also a tragedy. Midge probably let herself believe that the paraphernalia she found in the bathroom wasn't a big deal, because Lenny had promised her it wasn't. By the time she had heard enough to know differently, the damage was done. If Lenny hadn't told her not to save him she would have tried to pull him out of his spiral with everything she had. As it was, she sent him Susie, her best friend, her greatest asset, the lifeline she had relied on over and over. But it just wasn't enough. Midge couldn't meet him at the club and respect what he had told her. And Midge always, always tried to do what Lenny said.

That miscommunication, that tragedy, is heartbreakingly rendered by Rachel Brosnahan and Luke Kirby. Without explicitly saying anything, we know Lenny wants Midge to walk through that door and to try to rescue him. And we know that Midge wants to do just that, but cannot bear the idea of being rejected by him.

In the end, at least, we have that scene in Chinese restaurant which I think might be the most visually stunning scene of any of Midge and Lenny's encounters (I'm sorry Miami club, you are a close second!) It's a nice final reminder of what Lenny did for Midge: he acknowledged she deserved a place amongst the elites of the craft. I only wish there had been room for Midge to also validate Lenny. I would have loved her to give him some parting words that he might also treasure.

There are other ways of tragically ending Midge and Lenny's journey that I would have loved to see, but given the Palladinos disinterest in really exploring the nasty, dark, ugly parts of show business in the 1960s, I am not surprised we didn't get them. That can be a project for a fanfic writer who doesn't want to "fix it" so much as "make it worse." (Go for it fanfic writer! Sometimes we need sad things!)

I also have my own ideas of what would be a happy ending for these characters (see Midge and Lenny's Alternative Adventures). But I think the key to landing those stories (for me) is to confront this miscommunication so that Midge and Lenny can both accept and demand more from each other and to build up a new, less brittle kind of respect that comes from real intimacy. I want productive fights that tear through artifice and expose the mess underneath. Only then do I think they have a shot of saving each other from their own worst instincts.

Does that mean I liked it? Hahahahaha I don't even know. I respect it. It lingers. I felt something. And that's better than most series finales. And Midge and Lenny remain sensational.

#rachel brosnahan #luke kirby #midge x lenny #the marvelous mrs maisel spoilers #the marvelous mrs maisel #tmmm #midge maisel #lenny bruce #asks #series finale thoughts

[lens-guy-art]

What do your OCs fear most? <:

Vester has a fear of losing his loved ones again and he also is afraid of himself going out of control and really harming his allies in the process

Midge is afraid of being seen as useless or weak in battle

Shatter may be brave but he's scared of seeing decapitated hardware heads..

Encore is secretly scared of losing Shatter and his strider farmpets in battle

Cammie's fears is losing memories and spiders(skibidi striders)..

Scope isn't afraid of anything. Okay, maybe losing her skibs is one thing but she isn't technically afraid of anything

#ask #skibidi toilet oc #skibidi oc #cameraman #speakerman #oc: vester #oc: midge #oc: shatter #oc: encore #oc: cammie #oc: scope #skibidi toilet

[landwriter]

Whenever I feel like the world is ending, I remember that that is, in fact, an universal human experience - and that gives me hope.

Also a big fan of the complaint that “everyone wants to write a book these days” dates back to 2800 BC

#asks #as weak as i am for like v old love letters ancient children’s toys etc #the timeless genre of whinging is dear to me #i want a century by century compilation of ‘it’s too hot out’ / ‘it’s fucking raining again’ lmao #give me people complaining about mosquitos on cuneiform tablets and midges on illuminated manuscripts

[warrior-cats-rewritten]

quick question, do you have any future plans for Smudge in your rewrite?

The thing about Smudge is that he would hate being a Clan cat, so he never joins Thunderclan. He is, however, given an expanded family.

His ancestor, appearing in ancient times as a Cat Of The Park, is Midge. She is adopted into a home with River Ripple's help, and expresses a desire to start a family. Unlike her friend, Rust, who never has children, staying as a lone farm cat.

Myler, from Mapleshade's Vengeance, is ALSO related to him! Ironic how much "wild blood" is in such a happy housecat who wants nothing more than to curl up on warm blankets and eat lamb pate for dinner. Myler was his great grandpa.

He is a guardian of Princess's kits. The 2 aren't mates, but Smudge is happy to help her by watching them and playing with them. Smudge is Ace! Also, one of Princess's kits lives in his other neighboring garden, though I haven't picked which one yet.

He actually joins Ravenpaw and Barley on their Quest to Skyclan, and might be joining Firestar and Sandstorm. One of his other ancestors is a Skyclan cat who left while their home was being destroyed. That cat's name was Sootberry, a black tom with a white spot on his forehead, who is the grandfather to Skyclan's Final Leader, Spiderstar. This is why Smudge gets visions of Skyclan.

His brother from a different litter is Fuzz! Meaning Bellaleaf and Rileypool are his niece and nephew. He actually does know Fuzz, though the two don't see each other often. This is the reason though that he joins Ravenpaw, Barley, Bella and Riley on their journey to Skyclan, and helps brings Ravenpaw's body home to the farm to bury. Without Smudge, they wouldn't have made it.

He also makes a minor appearance during Graystripe's Clan, where it is revealed that though Hattie's housefolk have moved away (to the Lake area where Velvet lives, because they are also Velvet's owners) but one of the members one Warriorclan lives there! His neighbor is Bugeater!

#warrior cats #warrior cats rewrite #wcr #warriors #wc smudge #wc myler #wc midge #wc princess #wc fuzz #ravenpaw #wc barley #firestar #sandstorm wc #spiderstar #wc hattie #wc velvet #warriorclan #bugeater #ask

[scoopsgf]

I somehow got warped into listening to a Gilmore Girls podcast where they discussed the infamous "I know you" line with two r*gan fans and only one lit fan and of course, everyone was against it. So it got me wondering what your opinion on that line is, specifically? I never considered it bad or even "manipulative" of Jess because even if you were to argue that he "tried to guilt Rory for not being 'a perfect version of herself that he made up'", that doesn't really hold up within the narrative in season 6 when Jess pretty much leaves her alone afterwards? And many like to argue that Jess just knew "a version" of Rory about 1.5 years before seeing her again when she dropped out of Yale, but that alone isn't a) a significant amount of time that has passed, and b) doesn't negate the fact that Jess could obviously tell that Rory was just lost and aimless, not that he was angry with her because she dropped out of Yale and decided to pursue something else because obviously, Rory had not taken up any other route after the season 5 finale, she had just become aimless. So yeah, if you'd be interested about discussing this, I'd love to hear your opinion on it

i imagine the people who say they’re against it only do so because they’re biased and just… don’t understand what jess meant by it. the bottom line is, he does know her. he knows her ambitions and life goals—to become an overseas correspondent, the next christiane amanpour, to attend an ivy league school and do well there. academia has always been a passion of rory’s; you could even go so far as to identify it as a piece of her personality, so the fact that she’d dropped out of a school she fought tooth and nail to get into was definitely alarming (to everyone, not just to jess). of course he was gonna ask her what the hell was going on??? he was concerned. beyond that, everything he said was true, and you can tell from rory’s facial expressions that she knows it. also, the fact that this conversation gets her to go back to yale says everything. i don’t understand why people are so against it. like, literati aside it’s what gets rory back on track, so the fact that people resent it even as a narrative device when these are the same people who hate on rory for dropping out and “spiralling” just baffles me. anyway, i don’t at all see any part of the speech as manipulative or guilt-tripping. i see it as someone who loves rory and understands her questioning why she’s settling for a guy who drags her down and a lifestyle that doesn’t at all suit her, nor compliment her interests. there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

#asks #chambersofthesea #literati #gilmore girls #defending jess mariano #anti logan huntzberger #i literally look forward to this ep every rewatch because the speech is just so. fucking. good #also anyone who’s watched maisel knows that these speeches are asp’s way of showing the audience how much a love interest cares #and understands the recipient #i.e. lenny and jess reminding midge and rory of their goals and priorities #the scenes are obvious parallels if you ask me #anyway. anyone who says jess was rude here or ‘verbally abusive’… clearly you’ve never been verbally abused #as someone who has i can confirm i have only ever seen it as a form of caring and genuine concern #also why tear jess apart for that when lorelai did the same and worse and NEVER gets criticised #people just want an excuse and they’ll say the stupidest shit

[thatseventiesbitch]

“Stop you’re making me blush in public” 

Eric/Donna but also teenage Leia getting embarrassed by her parents in public.

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Everyone flooded out of the gym as Leia's 8th grade graduation ceremony ended. Parents, family members, and friends of the 'graduates' all spread out on the school's grassy front lawn to wait for them.

Eric and Donna found a shady spot, and Eric eased his arm around Donna's lower back. They looked around at all of the other families on the lawn.

"Look at the Johnsons," Donna subtly nodded towards their old neighbors, calling Eric's attention to a couple a few yards away from them. They had several small children, and they were all running chaotically around the grounds. She squinted. "Jeeze. How many kids do they have now?"

"8? I don't know." Eric shrugged. "And it looks like she's pregnant again."

"She's not pregnant. Just fat."

Eric laughed, a little incredulous. "Okay. Mean," he accused, teasingly.

"No," Donna defended herself, laughing too. "I just mean - it's just, like, she has a little Mom tummy, you know?" She shrugged. "It's what happens. I have one too."

Eric glanced down at her body. She wore a tight, dark blue dress, and now she pressed her hand against her lower stomach.

"No, you don't." He smirked, his eyes darkening with arousal. He cleared his throat. "I like your dress."

"Thanks," she brightened. "Can you believe it was only $20?"

"Mm," he made a noise of vague agreement, like he wasn't really listening.

"Eric!"

"Hm?"

He was staring down at her cleavage, and Donna made a show like she was trying to be annoyed, but quickly dissolved into flirty giggles.

"Stop it. You're making me blush in public!"

"Well then maybe I should take you home, m'lady."

He started to kiss her neck.

"Um. Ew?!"

They had both missed Leia's approach, but now she stood in front of them in her graduation robes, one hand propped against her hip. She looked less-than-pleased at her parents' antics.

"Oh, honey! We didn't see you there."

"Hey. Hey bud. Congratulations!"

Leia still raised an annoyed eyebrow at her parents. "Can you not do that in public, please?" She looked around uneasily. "Like, people could see you guys."

"You're right," Donna clasped her hands together, apologetically. "We'll stop."

"Wh - " Eric started to protest as she pulled away from him.

Donna caught his eye and mouthed, "Later." Then she turned to their daughter, and wrapped her arms around her shoulders as they started walking towards the car. "Where do you want to go for dinner, baby? Anywhere you want."

"The pizza place with the jukebox."

"You got it, kiddo." Donna turned around to check on Eric. He was dutifully following after his girls, and she grinned.

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