#berserk theories

[epraim1992]

The Beast of Darkness

The Beast of Darkness has been let loose and is offering Guts power in exchange for a sacrifice. Which begs the question what exactly it is. It seems like we are going to a definitive answer.

I decided to look back to see if there are any clues. Casca referred to Guts as mad dog and interestingly enough the Beast takes the form of a canine.

In Casca's dream world Guts appears as a dog chained to the coffin carrying Casca's ego.

In his own dreams the The Beast also appeared chained up.

It was revealed by Danann that dreams are part of the astral word which connects to Enoch Village.

Flora also appeared in Corridor of Dreams to aid Schierke and Farnese fulfilling her promise to meet ther again in the her dreams.

This made me think of Guts' dreams. In a dream which was inadvertently caused by Griffith Guts is chased by monster. It seems like the monster is just a manifestation of Donovan but it has been established that spirits can appear in a persons dream.

Guts has another dream after carrying out that mission for Griffith to assassinate Julius. The monster appears again but in the form of Zodd and it to kills the child Guts and Gambino.

In the dream the Zodd like monster turns out to be Guts himself. Which is similar to the when the evil spirits morphed into Guts as the Beast.

When Skull Knight first appears to Guts I'm guessing that Guts envisions as the monster in his dream which is interesting.

The Beast of Darkness when possessing Guts attempted to kill Casca. But it wasn't the first time Guts attacked Casca in a trance.

During their first time together Guts tried to strangle Casca when he envisioned her as himself when he was sexually assaulted. Visually he is represented as the monster from his dreams. I think this was the Beast of Darkness.

According to Skull Knight in order to challenge Griffith you have to exist outside the reason of the world. I'm guessing this is the power the Beast is offering.

I've always seen Guts being similar to Skull Knight and Zodd who could follow their paths since he donned the Berserker Armor and came into the possession of a Beherit.

I think Guts will end up surpassing them both. Unlike Skull Knight I think Guts will master the Berserker Armor and will use the Beherit his own way.

So what is the Beast of Darkness. I think he is the Beast of End described in the prophecies of the Holy See.

It seems like the Beast is a one that twice reincarnates. I think the Guts is the human reincarnation of an Apostle.

Although the coming of Griffith as the Hawk of Darkness was prophesied the Holy See was unable to identify Griffith as him. Maybe Ganishka was misidentified as the Beast of the End.

When Beast takes over the Berserker Armor Puck did compare Guts to an Apostle which I believe is a hint. Then there was his dream where he appeared like Zodd.

How could an Apostle reincarnate into a human? I think it was the result of Elf magic. And that it had to do with the elves of Misty Valley.

Guts compared the wish the elves granted with healing baby Peekaf to the Sacrificial Ceremony. I think Guts' previous life was turned into a human through an Elvin rite.

Puck indirectly compared Misty Valley to Elfhelm he said it felt like home. There was a large cedar tree located there and a hollow that appeared in the tree. I think a boss elf live in Misty Valley.

Skull Knight has suggested that Guts is connected to the elves and I think this is how.

#berserk theories #berserk #berserk beast of darkness #guts berserk

[anniflamma]

My next animatic will probably be Ruthlessness. So I have been sketching out some ideas, I guess, for Poseidon, and I ended up making him a horse. So I like to depict the gods as animals or change sizes when they are expressing big emotions. And Poseidon has this calm anger throughout all of his songs, but his anger is simmering beneath. So my first ideas, I started out having him as a dark horse chasing Odysseus' boat. And when he becomes angry, he becomes more horrifying. But then I realized that meant that I had to draw a freaking horse throughout the whole animatic, and I didn't want that, so I gave him a human form....

His human form isn't really 100% decided yet. I don't really know if he fit of the delivery the song.

If I remember right, in the snippet of Get In The Water, Jay said that there will be a "twist" in the song. Probably Athena will appear or something. I don't know what it can be. But I do have some theories.

I have a headcanon about Poseidon in the musical. I see him more like a personification of vengeance itself. It's based on the parallelism between Odysseus, Poseidon, and even Hector.

Hector was the man who died and couldn't protect his son from the perpetrator. Poseidon is the man whose son became mutilated and is trying to take revenge on his perpetrator. Odysseus is the man who does everything he can to make sure he won't end up in the same spot like Hector/Poseidon.

So this design of Poseidon is more based on what if Poseidon was the representation of Hector's ghost trying to take revenge for the murder of his son.

It's a stretch, but I kind of like it!

#fanart #greek mythology #epic the musical #poseidon #yes I know about the demon horse form Berserk... #I don't know if this theory is crazy...

[sarnai4]

Betrayal

I was going to make this a fun post, but then I discovered that there are Dagur gifs on here and...yeah, that light topic didn't happen. So, here goes a little sad something.

I think these frames of animation are very interesting. Actually, this entire scene is to me. It's in "The Night and the Fury" and is right after Dagur learns that Hiccup lied. I love how this occurred because it would have been so easy to just have him be like, "You have dragons? Okay, now I'm about to kill you." They didn't do that, though. Even as Dagur is connecting the dots, he harps on the fact that a lie was told. "Your father lied to me...YOU lied to me!" If you go back to Dagur's threat from "Twinsanity," he never even said that he'd attack Berk if they had dragons. He specifically said he would if he found out they did after they denied it. Technically speaking, Dagur could have attacked immediately if he wanted to, but he still had the intention of keeping the peace. These expressions in the gif are right after he says, "You could've been my brother, Hiccup. Now, you're my enemy." When he says this, he actually sounds sad. His expressions match that. Dagur, Mr. Gets Angry At The Drop Of A Helmet didn't immediately respond with rage. He's hurt and I think I know why.

Dagur doesn't perceive things like other Vikings to put it lightly. When he has his first episode, he's talking about how he and Hiccup had great laughs after he tries to drown the poor Berkian. He calls Hiccup his old friend when they see each other again in the episode with the gif. I think he genuinely believes this. For the strange things Dagur does, he doesn't see it. So, it's not just someone lying to him, it's his best, his ONLY friend lying to him and making him looking like a cool in front of his tribe. That's why he sounds sad instead of angry. That's why he has to look away and think through what his next move is. Yes, he attacks, but what are his options?

Hiccup doesn't give him any more time to think. He tries to leave with Toothless, so Dagur has to act then. Regarding his options, they all are bleak. If he attacks, then you have war and what we got. The alternative is that he doesn't then, right? Well, that's not great either. As soon as he gets back to his ship, one of the Berserkers says that he wants to kill Hiccup himself. Dagur has to make it clear that no one besides himself will go after Hiccup. This shows how the Berserkers really can be vengeful. They're not even an aggressive group (as shown in "Something Rotten on Berserker Island"), but they have tempers. So, if Dagur holds onto the friendship that he just realized didn't exist, he has to go back with his tail between his legs and admit not only that he was played, but that he doesn't want to do anything about it.

Dagur already was worried that no one would respect him as chief. They never would if they found out he was tricked and didn't even want to get revenge for it. He would be the young chief who was too foolish to see through lies and too weak to defend his people in case the liar decided to lie again and actually attack. So, yes, Dagur attacked. Was it a mistake? Oh most definitely. He could've caused the deaths of many people and was arrested for this. So, I'm not saying that Dagur is in the right for his war, but I'm saying that I don't think it's a black and white as the show tried to portray. We see it from Hiccup's perspective with Dagur being this wild kid who just likes killing. Dagur's so much more than just some angry or deranged Viking. I just wish we got to see more of his side of things.

#HTTYD #RTTE #Dagur the Deranged #Theories #Berserker Life #False Friends

[sweatytyrantobservation]

I think zodd is going to stray from griffith.

I know this has been said on reddit but there's been a few panels* where I've seen zodd and he just looks, conflicted? As the dude said on reddit when you look at his facial expressions, it says a lot. He almost looks uncomfortable in my opinion. I've got a feeling he's gonna stray from griffith soon, or at some point.

To me zodd is a guy that is a true warrior and has the capability to recognise when others are true warriors with good skill, for example with guts, he respects guts because of the fact that he managed to wound zodd for the first time in 300 years. There's no way zodd isn't aware of how griffith is toying with guts and casca, so I could imagine he's going to feel conflicted naturally.  I know zodd is seen as 'on griffiths side' but griffith only won zodd and his obedience a result of being defeated in a battle. I don't think zodd sees griffith as a fair fighter. I mean he isn't, not really. I feel bad for him man, poor things obviously running himself by a warrior code of some sorts like errr the dragon dude is it grunbeld (from what I've seen) And is clearly not liking what he's seeing but this code of his so to speak is getting in the way of him outright leaving.

*These are the panels i'm referencing

#berserk #berserk manga #its berking time #nosferatu zodd #zodd the immortal #zodd #theory

[plenilune]

i'm stuck in my sci fi novel so i just, started reading marx's capital :/

#becoming the most insufferable guy you know summer spring going well #my reading list is like: marx. berserk. philip k. dick. im sorry #the diary #anyway it will be really funny if people get to read this someday and they're like 'you read all this theory for a fun caper about grief #and gay sex???????' well yeah

[noctusfury]

What Would Have Happened if Stoick Slew Dagur? (Riders of Berk)

Hello, fellow Furians! Welcome to another HTTYD article! Today, we'll dive into the what-if scenario that could've happened in the Riders of Berk episode "Twinsanity".

In this scene, Stoick was clearly about to end the Berserker Dynasty right then and there, until DreamWorks Hiccup and the Gang came along and interrupted it with their fake "Dragon Raid" forcing the Berserkers to retreat.

Thus, the question is this: What would've happened if he had succeeded or failed in doing so had he NOT been interrupted?

Obviously, of course, there would've been war between Berk and Berserk. Reason for this is that there would be witnesses who'd see Stoick strike Dagur down from behind. There are four Berserk Guards who are with Dagur (as seen below).

There's a risk of the one who's not encumbered with a task — and is closest in proximity to Dagur — intercepting Stoick's strike. However, when Stoick closes the distance with Dagur, the other guards, along with Dagur himself, are far too preoccupied with Barf and Belch to notice Stoick's actions. So it's possible that Stoick could easily succeed in assassinating Dagur.

However, it's what happens afterward that's important. The guards would've seen Stoick slay their chieftain and will want to exact vengeance. Of course, as we know, the moment Stoick slays Dagur, Hiccup and the Gang come in with their fake dragon raid on the Berserkers. There might be a 5-10% chance that Stoick, depending on the timing and the Berserker's POV, might get away with it if the Berserkers immediately focus from Barf and Belch to the other dragons without noticing Dagur's fall. But I doubt that Dagur would go down without a fight or without making any sound, hence why the percentage is so low.

So we will continue with the assumption that the Berserkers saw Stoick slay their chieftain. Stoick and the others would have to deal with them, or else they'll report this to the armada waiting near Berk's docks.

Of course, if Berk fails to cover their assassination up, they'll immediately have to deal with an entire armada of angry Berserkers. Even if the Berkians are battle-hardened and every person who can hold a weapon is recruited and the dragons join in the fight, and even if the majority of the Berserkers haven't seen many battles or wars, it can't be denied that the Berserkers have been well-trained and are, of course, Berserkers. It'll still be a very difficult fight. There will be severe casualties on both sides. In the end, though, Berk will probably pull through this with a victory in the end. But at what cost? It'd be a conflict that could've been easily avoided, and Berk suffered losses that it can ill afford to take when they're still fighting with the Outcasts — with little gains to show for it. And there's no guarantee that the conflict will even end there.

So, in summary, if Stoick wasn't interrupted and succeeded in ending Dagur, he'll need to get rid of the guards as well. This will be pretty easy since they have the dragons, and they can easily make it look like a dragon raid killed them and hopefully Berk can relax and keep an alliance with Berk, while Berserk is reeling from their chief's death and busy running around killing as many dragons as they can. And — even better — Berk could masquerade this as something that Alvin, an Outcast, did and can better solidify Berserk's involvement in Berk's war against the Outcasts.

So yeah, so long as the Berserkers don't look too closely at the bodies, the Berkians would have a pretty good chance at getting away with it.

What do you guys think? What would've happened had Stoick went with his plan? Do you think that Berk would've been able to get away with it? Or would it end up sinking in defeat, with Alvin taking advantage of the chaos? Tell me your thoughts!

Thank you for reading! I hope you found this article intriguing and I'll see you in the next article.

Long Live the Night!

— Noctus Fury

#noctusfury #httyd #httyd fandom #httyd articles #dreamworks dragons #riders of berk #twinsanity #dagur the deranged #stoick the vast #httyd dagur #httyd stoick #berk #httyd berk #httyd berserkers #berserkers #httyd theories #httyd headcanons #httyd questions #httyd franchise #assassination #httyd article #httyd headcanon #httyd theory #httyd question

[midnight-in-town]

About Casca, it’s me or are they keeping her “jailed” and busy in a way that’s nothing like her ? It’s as if Griffith doesn’t remember what his ex right hand is all about… don’t get me wrong, I know he can’t give her a sword, but pretty dresses, calm days, making flower crowns with kids, who is he even kidding?

Hey Anon! Well I more or less agree but, as you said, Griffith drugged Casca so she wouldn't escape, so what else is there to do? x) At least she can go outside and see the sun...

That being said, reading the chapter, it really made me remember episode 72 during the Golden Age, when tortured!Griffith imagined what his life as Casca's companion would be:

Back then, powerless as he was after being tortured so much, he realized his dream became unachievable. Since he knew Casca used to have feelings for him and hearing that she couldn't leave him behind in such a state, he dreadfully imagined what his life would become, driven by (what he imagined was) Casca's wishes. Of course, that scared the hell out of him and he chose to become Femto soon after.

Now, in ep372, it really seems to me that it's the other way around: powerless and drugged, Casca is experiencing what Griffith's dream is all about and what life she might have had, if she had clung onto his dream like she used to do.

With Falconia, Griffith almost managed to get his kindgom, even if he still needs to wed Charlotte to get the official crown.

So if the Eclipse hadn't happened and Casca had remained by Griffith's side, like an obedient right hand woman who used to have feelings for her leader, it's likely that she would have become an honorable lady living in the castle, especially since women who are warriors a rare feat in Berserk (which btw caused Casca some feminity issues in the past).

Obviously though, that's all imaginary because the reality depicted in ep372 is pretty different from the Golden Age. As we know, Griffith became Femto and sacrificed the very people who always believed in him ; also Casca has feelings for Guts and is now Griffith's prisoner but...

...she was indeed abducted because she's indispensable to the realization of his dream, because Griffith wants to keep a good and tighter grasp over his own vessel, the moonlight child, so I find it's a cool parallel.

TL;DR what Casca is currently experiencing against her will and drugged in ep372 is probably what her life could have been like...

...if Guts hadn't made her realize that she didn't have to live by clinging onto another person's dream.

All that being said, I'm really hoping that Casca will soon get her agency back, because she deserves it and because I know she's capable of protecting herself without Guts necessarily being around, even if for that, she's going to need allies... :)) (see below)

Sorry for rambling Anon, but I hope it helps ! Have a nice day. :))

Hey Anon! Well, don't worry, there are always several possibilities !

Casca could manage to escape the castle for a short time and to come across them for example, even if I agree it's hard to imagine it now, seeing as she's drugged.

Personally, my favorite idea is the castle needing new maids and one of the girls getting hired as a replacement, seeing "Elaine" again and wondering why she's without Guts.

Or, considering that Daiba gave them diamonds when Rickert and co left Falconia, they probably don't have to work anymore...

...so maybe they will get a glimpse of "Elaine" as a (drugged) court lady (during Griffith and Charlotte's wedding ?) and wonder why she's there, thus getting hired as maids to get in touch with her?

Either way, I think it's very likely that Luca and the rest of the girls will be Casca's first allies and will help her overcome the whole 'being drugged' obstacle. :))

As for other possible allies at a later time, I discussed it a few years ago here, but I'm interested in Casca's presence in Falconia maybe acting as a catalyst leading to more development for Zodd, Sonia & Mule but also and mostly Charlotte.

Indeed, as a fan of the few interactions we had between Casca and Charlotte back during the Golden Age (because on this blog, we dislike competition between women and support women bonding over similar goals), I'm really hoping that Charlotte will eventually realize, upon seeing Casca, that the man she loves is an absolute monster and that, as a result, she will find it in her to step up as the rightful monarch of this kingdom.

We've still got some looong ways to go before we reach this point though, obviously.

I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!

#berserk #casca #griffith #guts #gutsca #femto #luca #charlotte wyndham #nosferatu zodd #berserk theory #berserk372 #anon #answers #my analysis

[milfsloverblog]

I know the Kate Middleton thing is getting big because why did my unchronically online partner ask if I’d heard about “Kate Middleton’s new passion for photoshop”

#personal #you better be sure I gave that man the WHOLE LORE #his personal theory is that she has an ed/serious illness #mine is that she filed for divorce and William went berserk on her #or maybe she pulled a gone girl….in which case : good for you Catherine

[tbzrai]

heres my "dont think about it too hard" limbus company x fgo class assignments, some of these have some justifications and others are just a wild guess (cough dante cough)

#I DO have justifications for dante but its theorycrafting based on each class #honestly I could slot dante into almost ever extra class depending on which theory #imagine beast dante #assassin rodya im not too confident about tbh #lord knows where i'd put gregor and meur honestly #funnily enough some of these guys already have fgo counterparts that fit so #sinclair is a berserker to me no ifs or buts #limbus company #fgo #fate go #lcb #tbzrai.txt

[13eyond13]

started reading comments on the Berserk wiki and nearly died at someone referring to Casca's broken-minded period as her "potato times"

#the more i'm reading the fan theories the more confused i feel as well hahaha #it sort of has a dream logic that i love and that makes sense emotionally but trying to neatly explain it all is just like oyyy #i don't envy the people trying to wrap up the manga now #berserk #berserk spoilers #13readsmanga #p

[antediluvianapocalypse]

berserk, chapter 53.

#speaking #hole theory #berserk #charlie reads berserk #i am always saying this.

[epraim1992]

Headless Horseman

After the Great Roar of the Astral World one notable astral creature that appeared was a headless horseman. I think he is a portmanteau of the Green Knight due to his knightly armor and the dullhan a demonic fairy both headless riders.

I think he might be the one to kill Locus. In Arthurian literature the Green Knight is a tester of knights. Locus told Rickert about the divine right of kings and we see a sword in the stone a nod to Excalibur.

Locus is a knight of renown who probably broke the code of chivalry since he became an Apostle. He also carries a lance similar to the headless horseman which to me indicates a future match.

I think the headless horseman's armor was built by Hanarr. He has already built knightly armor. I also think that the headless horseman might be how Skull Knight met Hanarr.

Guts drew a connection between Hanarr and Godot which makes me think he used to live in the mountains near Godot's home.

We know elves lived in the area and what's more Skull Knight knew where it was.

I think Skull Knight was the one who beheaded the headless horseman and in the fight experienced first hand Hanarr's craftsmanship so sought him out. Skull Knight if he is indeed Gaiseric has always carried shield. His first one being an aegis which in Greek mythology was affixed with the head of a gorgon.

So far we haven't seen Skull Knight with a shield when he donned the Berserker Armor but I believe he did. I think his shield was affixed with the head of the headless horseman.

Everyone notes the similarities between Guts and Skull Knight. Guts has three woman in love with. We know Flora shared a similar relationship with Skull Knight that Schierke and Guts have. Flora had the Berserker Armor in her possession maybe they will be a third woman similar to Farnese in possession of his old shield.

#berserk theories #berserk #skull knight #gaiseric #berserk skull knight theory #beserk headless horseman

[bscully]

Deep thoughts incoming!

Consider the Demon Infant (MLB) only had a physical body during full moons. Does that mean MLB's body is still that of a sprite? And if he's STILL a type of a sprite how does he retain his physical form...?

Does it have to do with the merged astral & physical worlds? Consider that MLB and Femto (being a god hand) are astral beings that both shouldn't have a physical body. MLB *only* has a physical body during full moons. if MLB = astral being during non-full moons and physical being during full moons, how is Femto/NeoGriffith (who is controlling him) a physical being when he is in control during non-full moons??? Wouldn't that mean that NeoGriffith is appearing before people in the berserkverse as kind of... ghost or astral being? It’s like he transferred over to a astral being (MLB) that exists in a more shallow layer of the astral realm, and therefore can exist in a world where astral and physical realms are merged (permanently overlapping).

But if that’s true then... can MLB's body and NeoGriffith be separated in principle if the world tree ceased to exist, the astral and physical worlds were separated & their balance restored?

Holy Shit

#berserk #theory #moonlight boy #griffith

[quibbs126]

Aight, so here’s the thing I wanted to discuss and why I was looking at the Black Citadel assets, namely a thought I had about the Sovereign of Darkness and how they could appear

So we know that Pomegranate says something that possibly hints towards the Sovereign when Dark Choco leaves, as I’ve mentioned before

Thing is, he leaves it behind, meaning this wouldn’t just happen on its own, and something would have to happen to him. But I mean, I think we all know that, right?

Well something we see sometimes in the background is a particular set of armor that looks suspiciously similar to the Sovereign’s armor

Now yeah, I know we see it next to Dark Choco’s Portrait, along with what looks like part of his Young Prince costume, so it sort of just seems like a little reference to his Ovenbreak costume, except it also shows up in other stages in the background, implying that it’s more like armor that the Citadel has (that we never see anyone wear for some reason), and not just a reference

Something else I want to show are these enemies from the episode, the Cursed Weapons that come to life (which as @psychicdreamersteaberryjamsword pointed out, are never explained and have this strange red aura, which is odd since the priests, the people here we know with magic, are associated with purple, implying that it isn’t them and instead could be connected to the Strawberry Jam Sword)

Now again, we know that Dark Choco left the sword behind, but we also don’t really know what happened to it, whether the Cookies of Darkness took it or it was left at the Citadel

So, what if the Strawberry Jam Sword, left at the Citadel, came to life and ended up possessing that armor, and then going around looking for Dark Choco?

#like I imagine it’d look something similar to Berserk Cacao #in that it’s made of shadows and is really only the top half #as well as basically just being armor with a sword #I was gonna draw art with this #but then I realized I didn’t really need art to explain my point here and could just use game assets #but I do still plan on drawing it #but yeah just an idea I had #in this theory the sword likely disappeared soon after everything went down #maybe when the warriors were going to fight off the remaining enemies #but Dark Cacao didn’t make much note of it as he assumed the sword was taken by the Cookies of Darkness when he wasn’t looking #only for them to have no clue where it is either (except maybe Pomegranate) #and the thing’s operating on its own and looking for Dark Choco so it can gain its full power #anyways yeah just a potential theory #cookie run kingdom #sovereign of darkness #strawberry jam sword #dark choco cookie #theory #speculation

[sweatytyrantobservation]

Zodd fans, what do we think to the theory that zodd is guts's biological father?

I don't think i see it myself, appearance wise I kinda get it but it could be argued that it's art style. Dunno where I stand on this theory.

The only reason I could think for zodd having a child would be so he can have someone that is equal to him. Would potentially explain why guts is so freakishly powerful.

Not sure what to think, It's not a completely outlandish idea, I can see how the theory first came about.

Personally though I don't think if zodd was his father, that he would allow guts to go through what he did as a child. Doesn't strike me as the absent father type. Maybe a bit unsure but we know zodd stays committed to whatever he gets himself into

Bit of an insane take but I found it on reddit so I'm not suprised.

#berserk #nosferatu zodd #zodd the immortal #zodd #guts #guts berserk #the black swordsman #its berking time #theory hour #kind of an insane take

[optimisticaudience]

Hot take, but the ultimate villain of Berserk is not Griffith, but the beast of darkness. If Griffith was vanquished tomorrow, it would still be there to ruin the lives of everyone in that series I care about.

#berserk #guts berserk #guts #beast of darkness #Griffith is unspeakably evil though #But guts has that dark passenger #my main theory has been and always was that the god hand is going to offer to replace Griffith with guts via the beast of darkness #which means guts would have to confront himself #and Griffith would meet his final breaking point #because yet again someone chose guts over him