#boris niewald

[hannahstanwald]

he’ll find her in the origin world one day, I just know it 💔

#dark netflix #dark 2017 #regina tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #regina x aleksander #boris niewald #lydia makrides #bela gabor lenz #dark

[magg0t-bible]

Why There's No Bartosz in the Origin World: A Calculated Infodump

So I know there were a few people who were upset about the fact that Aleksander and Regina's relationship didn't make it to the Origin World despite both of them still existing without time travel. I've also seen some people who said they felt bad for Bartosz because he didn't make it to the Origin World even though his birth wasn't the result of time travel. But after some careful consideration (read: hyperfixation go brrrr), I think I've come to a fairly logical conclusion about why this is the case. Originally, I thought that Aleksander and Regina only met because Aleksander pulled a gun on Ulrich to stop him from bullying Regina, and that event no longer happens with Ulrich out of existence. But there's more than that, and in this essay I will here is my explanation.

In season 2, when Clausen is interrogating Aleksander about the disappearance of his brother, the real Aleksander Kohler, he mentions that his brother disappeared "without a trace. Nothing." When someone in Dark disappears without a trace, nothing, we can pretty safely assume that time travel is to blame. Clausen assumes that his brother is dead and suspects "Aleksander" (Boris) of being the guilty party, but the disappearance happened in Marburg, not Winden, so we don't see it play out. It could be a Mikkel situation (taking on a new identity and a new life in a different time), or a Mads/Erik/Yasin situation (he just died and his body was dumped God knows when).

The letter that Clausen receives tipping him off about travelling to Winden to get answers about his brother's disappearance would at this point likely be presumed to have been written by Claudia. But after the events of season 3, it's much more likely to have been written by The Unknown, for 3 main reasons:

First, it includes the same quote ("he who has eyes to see and ears to hear...") that The Unknown says to Gustav Tannhaus before murdering him in 1888,

second, the handwriting on the letter matches the handwriting used by The Unknown when he writes the notebook,

and third, the motherfucker knows everything. Everything about what happens in both worlds, at every time, and is constantly catapulting between timelines murdering everyone in his way to make sure those events keep happening. (Though it remains unclear whether or not he knew there was a third world.)

So with this information under our belts, there's a pretty strong theory that The Unknown fabricated the Marburg incident to look like a murder and to make Boris Niewald look like the guilty party, which would lead to the following chain of events: Boris changes his name to Aleksander > he flees his past and comes to Winden > he meets Regina > the two of them get married and have Bartosz.

Keeping Bartosz in existence definitely would've been in The Unknown's best interest as Bartosz needed to produce Noah, the perpetrator of many of the Adam's World disappearances, and Agnes, who the Unknown would get with in both worlds to produce Tronte, and the Nielsen loop would continue.

So ultimately, in a world without time travel, Aleksander Kohler never disappeared, and the other events subsequently didn't occur. Boris Niewald never changed his name, he never fled to Winden, he never met Regina....and they never had Bartosz. (Yes, the writers could've come up with another reason for Boris to come to Winden and meet Regina which could've yielded Regina Niewald and Bartosz Niewald, but based on the way everything was set up, it would've required an explanation and I'm not sure such an explanation could fit into the dinner scene without being hamfisted).

I won't lie, I was pretty sad about losing Bartosz as he was my second favourite character behind Claudia (who thankfully made it), and he was the one member of the teen generation I really thought would survive. But if you can come up with a way for him to still exist, by all means, write a fix-it fic. That's what they're for. (Some good examples can be found in this post by @haljathefangirlcat)

#garden of eden #dark netflix #dark spoilers #dark s3 spoilers #bartosz tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #regina tiedemann #thank you all for allowing my autistic ass to get up on my soap box and scream about my silly little show once more #though this post is hella long so I doubt it'll pop off as much as my 'Jonas and Martha are Marek and Sonja' revelation

[bosetsu]

Aleksander Tiedemann is so slavic coded.

I really interested there is he from. Bartosz is extremely Polish name. But Boris is slavic but not exactly Polish. Also Niewald is a fucking place.

#dark netflix

[ultimate88]

“your mother is the best thing that have ever happened to me”

#dark netflix #dark spoilers #darkedit #regina x aleksander #regina tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #the fact that they saved each others lives #only to have a little more time side by side #tiedemanns #gif #by me #tv

[holly-mckenzie]

Young Regina and Aleksander Tiedemann in “Die Überlebenden” - DARK 3.02 

#dark netflix #darkedit #dark spoilers #dark season 3 #regina x aleksander #regina x boris #boris niewald #regina tiedemann #i love them so much! #mine* #myedits

[highly-flammable]

It's heartbreaking that Regina never ends up with Alexander ;-; They were so precious.

And will Katharina ever get to have a fulfilling life? Ever? This show has been doing her dirty all three seasons.

I am so sad that Elisabeth and Noah don't exist in the end because they were my OTP, hands down. In a month or two I will probably be digging up their fanfics.

And of course, my boy Mikkel/Michael. While I'm glad he doesn't exist so he won't suffer, he was still such a lovely character that I deeply feel the loss. I'm glad we saw him with little Jonas one last time in this episode.

I don't really know what to feel about Hannah's ending. On one hand, I sort of think Hannah's evilness came greatly from her feelings towards Ulrich, so it makes sense that in a world without him, she would be a better person with a healthier life. But to give her a happy ending while characters like Regina and Katharina don't get those payoffs? That's an odd choice. Regina did get her mother though. But what the hell did Katharina get? (Yeah, I will never stop being sad over all versions of Katharina's story, ever)

While Hannah and Jonas' mother-son relationship was never that well fleshed-out, the actors completely sold me on the complexity. Hannah was an evil person, a pretty distant mother, but she did love her son. Jonas, when he was young, did really love his mother. In spite of the matricide scene, that thread remains and it was beautifully pulled on in the last few minutes. I laughed, I thought about how much I hated Hannah, but I also felt for them. Hopefully she will be a good mother to this kid of hers, even though this Jonas won't be our Jonas.

Speaking of our Jonas, I knew going in that he was likely not going to make it but I hoped against hope that he would find some semblance of happiness because this boy has been through so damn much. He's been hurt so badly and faced so much displacement and loneliness, it destroys me to just think about it. He barely got to crack a smile in this season. Talk about being put through the wringer. But oh well, young Jonas, maybe you're at peace now.

There are definitely quite a few loose ends and questions but my mind is too numb to analyze. Still, what a ride. I loved this show and hated it at times too, but it has been bonkers like few other things on TV and I will miss it.

Looking forward to the other projects of the primary cast members because they're great. I am definitely a bit biased towards Louis Hofmann because he is adorable, a phenomenal actor and he played a really relatable character emotionally. Jonas Kahnwald resonated with me a lot in some ways. This sad, sad boy in his yellow raincoat is a permanent favourite now.

I procrastinated a lot with the first two seasons, but binged this one and it was wild. Wouldn't have done it any other way. So glad I watched this, and whoever is not is definitely missing out.

#alright I am done with my liveblogging #waiting for the GIFs now #dark netflix #dark spoilers #dark #3x08 #jonas kahnwald #regina tiedemann #elisabeth doppler #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #hannoh tiedemann #hanno tauber #noah #katharina albers #katharina nielsen #hannah kruger #hannah kahnwald

[ariadne-labyrinth]

the way Noah x Elisabeth and Regina x Aleksander are the superior ships that had level 1000 chemistry in the few minutes they were on screen.....THEIR POWER IS UNMATCHED.

#dark netflix #hanno tauber #noah x elisabeth #elisabeth doppler #noah dark #noahbeth #noabeth #regina tiedemann #regina x aleksander #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald

[kondraart]

"Do you believe in ghosts?"

#dark netflix #dark #dark fanart #netflix #regina tiedemann #aleksander köhler #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #aleksander x regina #dark seasons 2 #fan art #tiedemann #my art

[claudiatiedemanns]

Aleksander & Regina Tiedemann, a summary

#darkedit #dark netflix #aleksander tiedemann #regina tiedemann #bartosz tiedemann #regina x aleksander #boris niewald #dark #mine #*gr #otp: alles ist okay #otp: the best thing that ever happened to me

[travllingbunny]

“Mystery” of Aleksander Tiedemann’s past uncovered!

Well, there wasn’t much of a mystery - and I’ve always thought it was pretty easy to guess what happened from the info we got - but a lot of the Dark fandom seems to think there is, so here is my summary of what I believe happened (and it works as a clickbait title).

The title and subtitle of the article Aleksander is seen reading in June 2019 in 2x06 can give us a pretty good idea of what happened (”Murder in Marburg still unsolved 33 years later”; “Police still looking for two perpetrators on the run”), but this time, rewatching the show, I took screenshots and tried to make out some of the words in the article. It’s pretty blurry, but, with my rather mediocre command of German, I can make out some words in the second screenshot, such as “Werkstatt” (workshop), “Schlosserei” (locksmith or metalworker) and a blurry “Schlossereiwerkstatt”, which would then be a metalwork/locksmith workshop. The article also mentions that multiple witnesses saw an attack by “two unknown men” that happened after the closing time of said workshop.

I've always figured it was a robbery gone wrong, and that Boris and real Aleksander were the two perpetrators who ran away. The additional details seem to imply (knowing what work experience/skills Boris had when he came to Winden) that they tried to rob Boris' boss/the place he worked at. (A lot of us thought it may have been a bank robbery, because 1x09 put that thought intentionally in our head, with little Claudia asking Tronte if he and his mom were bank robbers on the run . But this makes a lot more sense - a bank robbery seems a bit out of Boris’ and Aleksander’s league.)

Something must have gone wrong and they ended up shooting and killing someone. Or, based on what Aleksander/Boris told Bartosz in Eva’s world in season 3, Boris ended up killing someone by accident. (Not that the authorities would be likely to appreciate the difference.) Boris was badly wounded - probably in a shootout with the police - when he first came to Winden, so I think what likely happened is that real Aleksander also got wounded but died somewhere along the way. That would fit with the fact that Clausen didn’t know what happened to his brother, who is said to have “disappeared” - so, his body either wasn’t found or, more likely, wasn’t identified, and his identity wasn’t connected to the crime in Marburg.

If Boris indeed tried to rob the place where he worked (or had worked at some point), he’d be a very obvious suspect for the crime once it became obvious that one of the workers or former workers had disappeared right after this crime - so I can see why he thought it would be best to change his identity.

#dark #dark netflix #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #inspector clausen

[legolazz]

𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚/𝙧𝙚𝙗𝙡𝙤𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙨𝙪𝙥𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙩 𝙢𝙚

#dark netflix #dark netflix icons #aleksander tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann icons #Boris Niewald #Boris Niewald icons #Aleksander Köhler #Aleksander Köhler icons #Regina Tiedemann #Regina Tiedemann icons #Bela Gabor Lenz #Bela Gabor Lenz icons #Lydia Maria Makrides #Lydia Maria Makrides icons

[hannahstanwald]

#dark netflix #dark 2017 #dark netflix memes #regina tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #baran bo odar #jantje friese #dark #deborah kaufmann #lydia makrides #peter benedict #béla gabor lenz

[gretchentiedemann]

Aleksander’s Amazing Time-Traveling Gun

While everyone's tracking the path of the suitcase time machine and the St. Christopher pendant, I’m over here obsessing about Aleksander’s gun. 

I noticed on a rewatch that the gun Claudia uses to kill her alternate self looks a lot like Aleksander’s. If it is the same gun, this could be the key to figuring out its full timeline.

Here’s the known timeline, as confirmed by the Dark website:

1986: Aleksander arrives in Winden with the gun, hides it in the woods 1986-2020: Hannah takes the gun and keeps it for blackmail 2020: Jonas uses the gun to force Martha into the bunker, then takes it to 1888 1888-?: Jonas has the gun 1921: Noah points the gun at Adam, Agnes kills Noah with it, Adam takes it to 2020 2020: Adam uses the gun to kill Martha

So the question is, how and when does the gun go from Jonas/Adam to Noah?

The way I see it, there are two possibilities. Either Adam gave the gun to young Noah before he traveled to 2020 to survive the apocalypse, or he gave it to older Noah when he set out on his bunker assignment.

The only way Claudia could have used the gun is in the first scenario. As Noah, Jonas, and Claudia worked together on the God Particle, they might have shared weapons. Or at least, Claudia could have had access to it.

That would make the timeline look like this:

1986: Aleksander arrives in Winden with the gun, hides it in the woods 1986-2020: Hannah takes the gun and keeps it for blackmail 2020: Jonas uses the gun to force Martha into the bunker, then takes it to 1888 1888-1921: Jonas has the gun 1921: Jonas (now Adam) gives the gun to young Noah, who takes it with him to 2020 2020-2040: Noah has the gun, shares it with Claudia and Jonas 2040: Claudia uses the gun to kill her alternate self 2041: Noah takes the gun when he leaves to find Charlotte, keeps it as he works on the bunker machine 1921: Noah points the gun at Adam, Agnes kills Noah with it, Adam takes it to 2020 2020: Adam uses the gun to kill Martha

The one thing that bothers me is that the gun Noah uses to prove to Jonas that he can’t die is clearly NOT Aleksander’s gun. If it was, that would have clinched it for me. Still, it doesn’t disprove the theory.

Then there’s the question of why Noah uses a shotgun to kill Claudia. He definitely should have had Aleksander’s gun at that point, since only a few days later he points it at Adam. But it’s Noah, so maybe he just wanted to be dramatic.

And yes, it’s possible that Claudia used a different gun. It’s a dark scene, and I’m certainly no firearms expert. But this show is so meticulous about everything. Why would they choose a gun that looks so similar to the one we’re most familiar with?

In addition to completing the timeline, I also think it would be quite fitting story-wise for Claudia to be using Aleksander’s gun. Her motivation, after all, is to save Regina - which is what we see Aleksander using the gun for in 1986.

If it is Aleksander’s gun, that means that three different versions of it were in the Kahnwald house on June 27, 2020 - with middle-aged Jonas, with young Noah, and with Adam.

The gun also seems to play an important role in Eva’s World, although we only get a few clues about its journey. The gun Alt Martha uses to kill Jonas looks to be Aleksander’s. We see Alt Hannah holding it right before the apocalypse, so I would assume Alt Egon takes it with him when he saves her.

I just find it interesting that Aleksander himself never even knows time travel is possible, but his gun ends up in the hands of multiple characters across three centuries, and used in some of the most pivotal moments of the series.

#dark netflix #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #claudia tiedemann #for someone who hates guns irl #i sure am obsessed with this one #my posts #aleksander #claudia #noah #text

[sexy-zeitreise-detektiv]

#dark #dark series #shitpost #dark netflix #Regina x Aleksander #regina tiedemann #Alexander Tiedemann #Boris Niewald #the only hets who have rights in this show #except for Michael #But hes an honorary lesbian

[holly-mckenzie]

aleksander + being regina ‘friend’

#darkedit #dark netflix #dark #dark spoilers #regina tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #boris niewald #regina x aleksander #mine* #myedits #the colouring for this is all over the place

[roddy-yu]

Perfection

"dark || everything is intertwined [+S3]"

Littlesociopath strikes again, and it's straight to the heart.

If you have seen this YouTuber's videos on Dark, you know how insanely well-made they are.

I thought I wouldn't cry, but oh my, how wrong I was. This captures the tragedy of Dark and how beautiful, sad and sometimes violent it is.

I don't own the rights for this video, all the rights belong to Netflix, and the editing belongs to littlesociopath. Merely sharing it with you, because it's brilliant and beautiful.

#dark netflix #dark #netflix dark #jonas kahnwald #martha nielsen #dark season 3 #the stranger #katharina nielsen #claudia tiedemann #adam #eva #magnus nielsen #franziska doppler #elisabeth doppler #charlotte doppler #noah #bartosz tiedemann #regina tiedemann #boris niewald #peter doppler #egon tiedemann #hannah kahnwlad #ulrich nielsen #the unknown #and the others #perfection