i finally started watching the borgias (i can't resist a costume drama, especially one with costumes as beautiful as these) and i was truly expecting that i'd have to read incest into the show at least for a little while but i was shocked at how quickly they're rolling around in the grass together and gazing at each other's mouths. i'm impressed at how quickly this show lived up to the very few expectations i had (incest and pretty costumes).
Yes, I love how strong the incest starts off. Cesare and Lucrezia's very first scene is suggestive. (As are pretty much all of their scenes!) Even as I was wishing for more, I could appreciate the intense vibes. The show doesn't let you forget for a second that these two are in love, at least not as long as they're in the same scene together.
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Today's problematic ship is Cesare Borgia and Lucrezia Borgia from The Borgias
Brother/sister incest
Requested by me
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“And then...one touch of your hand and God comes rushing back„
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literally so crazy that we got fratricide in the borgias and it was out of love! insert the lucille sharpe monologue but also ugh the attack dog-ness of it all.......... dynamic truly crafted for me
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also, while i'm only 82% through it, g.j. meyer's the borgias is really compelling! it's focus is on dispelling the legends of the various members of the borgia family and providing context to their political maneuvering which reveals that, at least in comparison to the italian noble families of the time, they were kind of ordinary in that they weren't spending their time planning incestuous orgies or intricate poisonings alongside drawing up battle plans for gaining control of the papal states.
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TSwift's "Guilty as Sin?" has big "forbidden love with religious undertones, you haven't acted on it yet but you really want to" vibes. I'm thinking the first part of Borgia myself, lol
Suits Cesare and Lucrezia really well!
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"You've no need to worry. [Our children] are strong...smart...All qualities they have taken from us."
— Rodrigo Borgia to Vanozza Cattaneo (Lucrezia Giovane, 1974)
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Hi!! I saw your tags on the Borgias (TV Show) gifset about why did they write the siblings like that, It's actually alleged that the relationship between the Borgia Siblings was incestuous in nature and not just something the writers of the show decided.
The rumour was started by Lucrezia's first husband, Giovanni Sforza, Cesare and Lucrezia where uncomfortably close so the enemies of the Borgias capitalized on that to turn people against the Borgias.
There's no definitive proof of incest as far as I'm aware though.
Hey nonny! After reading back my tags I see they were a little glib- I did know about the rumors of Cesare and Lucrezia spread by the Borgia enemies, and I know it's a part of their story and history that people like to focus on, especially in biographies and TV dramas of the family. I promise the tags weren't me being judgemental or scandalized by the show, it was more along the lines of ~how dare the writers (mainly Neil Jordan) write these two like that because now I can't get them out of my mind~ type emotion
The family and their history- plus the history of Italy at that time in general- is super interesting to me and I learned a lot about them when I was studying the Renaissance, right now I'm just a bit of a mess over the acting and writing choices in The Borgias that seems out to hurt me personally, because their chemistry and relationship was genuinely one of the best written I've seen in a TV show, so that's all I meant by that
Especially with that last scene of the series because oh my god how could they cancel it after that, I would like to have words
I appreciate you coming to clear things up though! And if you're another Borgias fan with any recs of any kind to help me get over these two then pls kindly send them my way 🙏🏻
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