Baela and the Myth of the Child Fighting Pits
Not sure why I keep seeing from green-leaning accounts that in Fire and Blood, Baela visited the child fighting pits.
But this is what F&B says about Baela post-Dance:
Nothing about child fighting pits. In fact this is what shows up when I search ‘pits’ in Fire and Blood:
The definition of a rat pit according to awoiaf:
Not the best of places, I’m not going to defend it but there’s nothing about children there (also lower down it’s stated Mushroom said these are the places Aegon II would frequent, which the show turned into child fighting pits).
Also saw it said on here that Baela celebrated Jaehaerys’ murder… Her reaction was not recorded.
Baela is many things and she is not perfect but what I’m seeing is just not accurate. And that’s not even getting into what I’ve seen on Reddit where they say she wasn’t faithful to Jace before his death and was kissing squires while he was in Winterfell. (Narrator: she wasn’t.)
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last night was craaaaaazy (< said like I got drunk at a bar and didn’t just get so mad about scott and pearl I stayed up until 5 am reevaluating my DL notes and recontextualizing the series in my head)
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i’m gonna sound like a grandpa but i genuinely think modern day action/superhero movies are making people stupider bc why the hell are so many bitches saying they didn’t understand how gordy tied in to the rest of nope. like come on. girl. can you think about the themes instead of the plot for ONE SECOND i promise it’s not even that complicated guys
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i think that you can(and should) enjoy hoffman as a character and also acknowledge that he is an inherently horrible person who has done very bad things. those two things can coexist btw
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It’s wild how so many people are fundamentally incapable of recognizing queer characters unless they explicitly say the words, “I’m gay” on screen
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anyways, if the reblogs and tags didn’t clarify enough: this blog is fucking NOT a welcome space for billy stans.
he’s a fucking racist and abusive asshole of a man. yes he was abused, but that gives us the reason for his actions, it does not fucking excuse it. y’all do triple backflips through flaming hoops to defend this man while demonizing female characters (mainly nancy) for literally being teenagers. nancy called a relationship bullshit bc she was drunk and in agony over losing a friend and having everyone act like it never happened. she pointed a gun at steve to scare him off because a fucking demogorgon was coming and he didn’t know. she takes up arms to defend the kids from so many different threats while also dealing with her own fucking issues. billy threw lucas against a wall and threatened to break him just bc he was black and hanging around max. yes, he definitely could’ve used a support system like jonathan had, but he never fucking tried to make one. he and max could’ve tried to bond together under the abuse of neil. he could’ve talked to somebody - anybody - but he chose not to and instead lash out and take his rage out on anyone and everyone. did the narrative treat him weirdly? yes, i think so. but that doesn’t make him into this uwu soft boy y’all want him to be so desperately. like, this is the man who wanted to beat on kids and literally tried to bash steve’s face in with his fists. he intimidates and pushes around anyone he can, namely max and lucas. the duffer brothers and caleb confirmed his actions were racially motivated towards lucas. i’m not saying he deserved to die, nor am i ignoring the obvious trauma he went through, but i’m not using it to justify his actions and make excuses for his shitty behavior.
idc how y’all headcanon him but it’s fucking weird how much y’all wanna change about him to make him into ur sad boy of the month. anyways, rant fucking over with.
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ive only ever seen like 2 or 3 james somerton videos max and i forget what the first one or two i watched even were (something to do with disney i think?? but not the evil queens one im almost certain) but i have hated him ever since i watched the attack on titan video and he said something along the lines of "yeah this isnt an ALLEGORY bc the ghettos in the show arent literally identical to actual historical ghettos" and i was like what do you think an allegory IS
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my head hurts so bad from crying quite literally the whole episode…………
but I have so much thoughts on this show.
the emotional rollercoaster it has provided for weeks now? The characters so rich in depth it challenged my media analysis skills; reading so much well-curated thoughts and theories from viewers on here and twitter (and sometimes reddit).
I don’t think ive ever felt so heartbroken about a show’s (limited series at that) finale before 😭
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Not that I’m defending Tim but refusing to pull a CI out of a situation sooner because it was better for Lucy’s mission/career is wayyyy less questionable than literally anything he ever did for Isobel.
All I’m saying is we’ve known how the man’s priorities work since ep1 and it’s a contradiction deeply rooted in his characterization.
Why are so many ppl in fandom acting all surprised or sanctimonious about it? WE KNEW.
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being forced to follow fandom tags for a crumb of content instead i am being shown some of the worst takes imaginable
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abt the media literacy topic, people who dont have their first language as english didnt know abt the word + the fact that the way that some subtitles mistakingly made it seem like a name of some sort. treating it like common knowledge and being condescending abt it is kinda ehhhh
this is a fair point and you’re right! that possibility crossed my mind as well, just like people genuinely not knowing what the word altruist meant or that it exists as a term at all. i didn’t know about the subtitles issue, so thanks for bringing that up! i do still believe the lack of media literacy in general, across everything (not just hazbin hotel or specific instances but as a whole, in north america in particular), is a concerning issue, but that obviously doesn’t apply to people genuinely mistaking an english word due to english not being their first language or the subtitles being misleading. i apologize for not making that clear in my response to that anon.
and when i say concerning, i want you to know that i mean it in a genuine, sincere way. being able to analyze and interpret media and art that is intended for adults (which often involves nuance and subtext) is a really important skill and something that i personally believe makes consuming and engaging with said piece of media fun and fulfilling. maybe not everyone feels the same way, and that’s totally alright; we can agree to disagree, absolutely. but these are skills i believe everyone should be taught, allowed to sharpen, and have access to, especially if you’re going to be interacting with adult media/art (this goes way beyond hh, i’m specifically thinking of literature and banned books here). i also know that there is a legitimate concern regarding the declining quality of education, especially for high school students, in north america (i’m in canada, but i know it’s even worse in the states, given the pockets of poverty etc). and that really worries and upsets me, because it’s completely unfair, and it’s fucking scary, how little people seem to give a shit about the education of the next generation.
i’m extremely passionate about this subject, and if i had the resources and qualifications, i’d absolutely set up a free media literacy course (or courses!) for anyone interested in taking it. who knows, maybe one day i will be able to do something like that—that would be really cool.
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Also a very big thank you for making this community what it was also to the Fan Theorists and the people archiving VODs and saving them from becoming lost forever
Without you all the Fandom would have just been incomplete ;) and even though we may not have always agreed on every theory and sadly we did loose some VODs to time, y‘all were fucking amazing and I admire y’all o7
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On a lukewarm take.
I'll tell you right now, most adult mainstream media is not more "subtle" in is subtext than children's mainstream media.
Why is that? Children's entertainment can't get away with a lot of literal imagery.
Like queer rep, ND rep, and or most political issues.
So it requires the use of symbolism and subtext to get through it to it's audience with enough deniability to not upset the status quo.
Symbolism I've found to be much more powerful in a lot of all ages media than in adult and YA entertainment.
That is to say, all media should be consumed with our own biases in mind.
Instead of saying, X was bad and irredimible, people should be asking themselves, "why does this character make me FEEL this way about them, how much of that is intentional and how much of it is my own interpretation, why Y character forgave them so easily, what reasons do they have".
I consume all sorts of media, and most adult media I enjoy is adult media produced by artists mostly known for children's entertainment, they more often understand nuance and earnestness that a lot of newer adult guested media does not.
Do you think kid shows are black and white? Boy, I have bad news about cop thrillers.
I jest tho it's easier to extrapolate character from simplicity and earnestness than from media that is constantly embarrassed of being "too weird and unserious".
Some people consume only adult media, (not cartoon adult media like, just in general mainstream media) and have the media literacy of a fish.
I do think is important to watch everything you find mildly interesting, wether or not it's withing your preferred générés, demographics, and styles.
But I find it iffy to imply that all ages media is mostly not nuanced, because "they have to appeal to children black and white mentality" when that's just a big misconception.
Any weird vibes check my tags
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u guys cant judge me for anything i say after the first two sentences of this post are we clear. ok good. So ive been watching spn famously and there was one episode where theyre like you know. doing spn things.but supermassive black hole came on in the background and me and hal (im watching with hal obv) both shot up it was awesome
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meta rant: deconstructing the angelic trope feat. the themes of the show.
i’m so, so tired of fandom mischaracterising mobius and, in return, his connection to loki. the whole “MoBiUs MaDe LoKi BeTtEr” and “lOkI iS gOoD bEcAuSe MoBiUs BeLiEvEd In ThEm / mObIuS iS GoOd, AnD tHeReFoRe iNfLuEnCeS tHeM” is so distasteful. the whole point of mobius’ speech — you can be whatever you want to be, even someone good — is literally about the freedom to simply be. that’s it. that’s the whole theme of the show, even if it was badly misinterpreted a few times along the way.
the whole of loki’s arc, even in agent of asgards, was loki’s struggle to fight against their notorious pre-destined label but also realising they could never quite fit in with the hero archetype as well. it’s that constant struggle that the show is trying very hard to try and adapt along with the multiverse chaos. does it work? that’s a conversation for another time, but fact remains: loki is literally quite one of marvel and mcu’s most complex character because of this.
and having someone, STILL IN YEAR 2022, oversimplifying the theme of loki’s character genuinely hurts. and even more so, when that relates back to mobius, whom somehow is always “angelified” next to loki, it’s truly just a double whammy. mobius doesn’t want loki to be a hero. he just said it in conjunction that loki could be good if loki wanted to — because again, that’s the whole theme of the show: it’s the freedom to exist beyond what other people kept boxing you in as. it’s mobius genuinely wanting loki to have a presence beyond what was detected in the timeline, which generally categorised loki as a villain.
and mobius isn’t an angel, and i’m so tired of people thinking that he is! he’s not. yes, he can be kind and affectionate and he is inherently romantic to the people he’s attached to ( ravonna, loki etc ) but it is even canon in the show that he can and has done bad things ( “mobius isn’t so bad” “he isn’t so good either” / are we even gonna acknowledge what he did in episode 1? cause that was brutal ) he’s an incredibly flawed guy, and that’s why mobius and loki work as a dynamic. why it’s so popular.
neither of them expects the other to be anything except themselves. mobius holds no false illusion on what loki could be — either a villain or a hero — but simply has faith that loki can strive to achieve far beyond his usual ‘glorious purpose’. that’s all. he accepts loki as loki is, and if that means loki is as mischievous as they're considerate, or as conniving as they're intelligent, then so be it.
it’s not about mobius fixing loki (and it’s interesting that ravonna even mentions, “i know you have a soft spot for broken things” when that, in and of itself, is an oversimplification of mobius’ fascination to loki, which almost uniquely reflects how ravonna and mobius may have had a rift of different point of view since the start — but i’ll get into ravonna and mobius, my beloved, on another day) and i wish fandom would stop categorising it as that. thanks.
please don’t reblog.
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