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#god they cared so much about the villains
mihai-florescu · 3 days
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Putting a message i sent earlier under a read more, it has some thoughts ive expressed before tho. ES, of course
My thoughts as an EichiP... i view ! and !! as different stories in the way they're approached tbh, what i fell in love with enstars for was the character driven storytelling of one event seen through different perspectives, where you see the antagonist in one perspective become a protagonist in another story and can empathize with the entire cast like this. I fell in love with eichi's story of second chances, getting what you want and regretting your actions in the process, redemption, desperation, overcoming fate and asserting one's self into the story, saving a school in a dying industry that saved your life by giving you a dream; i consider it an arc fulfilling to the reader at the end of ! era. But we still had to continue... and it's not like we didnt get inklings of eichi's dreams of idol utopia, the idol soldier idea goes back to main story 1, but !! loses the charm of the original series through expanding the worldbuilding so much and shifting to a plot driven story that opens 10 cans of worms instead of offering resolutions. There's not really room to breathe if the stakes just keep getting higher and higher...
As for the colonisation plotline, it's been here since the beginning of ES2. The SS arc makes it obvious, but i remember even before, the talks about ES taking over from local businesses, trying to be seen as the standard, it was always the direction ensemble square as an institution would take. But the "antagonist in one story, protagonist in another" approach doesnt work anymore with such subjects. The guys responsible for this are your coworkers you share dorms with. I read the stories but cant empathize anymore, so i've been feeling disconnected from eichi for a while. I see enstars with eichi at its core but i didnt care for his center event, i read it, didnt like the ending, and overall felt off. Eichi becoming the villain of ! to attone for the war kind of loses significance if a year later he is a cartoon villain idol colonialist you can't even sympathize with anymore because of the magnitude of events. However i do think !! has done good things for some characters pushing them further or developing them in a way ! didnt. But for others...
I also have my issues with sci fi elements becoming the norm, even taken metaphorically or as hyperboles, when one of the central themes i love about enstars is humanity. Then again, i am a war era fan that relied on manipulating human desires and perceptions, and the fact that there were no monsters or gods, just humans framed as such, playing on people's fears and beliefs, it's a bit jarring to me to have them introduce AIs forming from escaped comatose brains (im minimizing the switch climax rn, i didnt even hate it as a whole, just this resolution im unhappy with)
It also feels like we've lost some of the meta aspects of the writing i liked, a certain awareness of being characters in a story and there being an audience. But im still struggling to word my thoughts on this matter. I felt it present in main story 2, even if it annoyed me at parts in its obviousness ("good thing we're not protagonists, no one would want to read about us" youre right aira you are not interesting to me. And yet i'll read your story to try and empathize nevertheless. I have other thoughts on aira too, perhaps for another time). I wish we explored a bit more what it means to no longer be the central protagonist, from trickstar's perspective...and brought back the successors topic. But i havent read every ts story yet so i'd be foolish to complain before really making sure i've checked everything. To me ! ended satisfyingly with room left for elaborations and imagination, but i dont feel like !!'s ending is really ending anything at all. Not necessarily bad since it's not like the game is shutting down, but overwhelming worldbuilding wise while underwhelming character wise...
Let's see... im not sure how to end this. Just a bit of a stream of consciousness as a ! fan who still loves enstars despite my critiques. Mainly, well, no one's gonna take away the stories that already exist that i do love and impacted my life greatly. And i do think !! had some really good things too it brought, or at least stories i hold dear too. Change is scary and i don't think it's always for the best, but it's also fun to see where it goes next...
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hmsmilkbone · 4 months
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literal years of my life loving nanami and higuruma, and for what.
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gay-artificer · 18 days
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I've seen people be like downpour ruined how people see five pebbles and im gonna be honest if you were here for any number of years pre-downpour the fandom was always god-awful with the nuance in his character. thats not a downpour thing thats a fandom thing
#niche comparison but if any of you know angela from lobotomy corporation/library of ruina#in the years prior to LOR angela was probably one of the most demonized characters ive ever seen in my goddamn LIFE#NO ONE was going to bat for this girl as anything other than a absolute villain and bitch#i was and im sure some others were too but the vast vast majority fucking hated her#because she spends most of the game being mean to you and then betrays you at the end#and you had to read between the lines to get to “wait a minute whats happening to her is kinda immensely fucked up”#and this is someone betraying you at the end of a very /very/ hard game to 100% and beat proper#then LOR came out and fully explored the depths of her trauma and anger at the situation she was put into#how desperate she was too take something for herself and how little she cared about how the effected others because she was not given that#and suddenly it clicked for everyone!#suddenly she wasnt a heartless bitch anymore! but of course now you had the#'literal infant' crowd because it also explored some ideas of parental trauma/lack of experience with the world#but god it was way more refreshing to see people actually move on from 'theyre an evil bitch' even if it came with 'so shes like a kid?'#and i feel that way about pebbles tbh#i dont get super super into the iterator lore so i cant speak much for the quality across downpour#and its higher focus on them and their stuff#im sure it carries plenty of issues as many things will#but god people sucking at reading the room on the iterators is not new lmao#actually five pebbles and angela are shockingly similar....#huh?
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lab-gr0wn-lambs · 5 months
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Look I'mma be honest every time twd kills off a long-beloved character at this point I'm just
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dayables · 3 months
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Honest to god think about Sydney Clarke and the way her relationshio with Victor and throw up.
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mustangs-flames · 5 months
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At first "Gabriel" wanted to destroy humanity just to get God's attention, but what made them straight up hate it?
Over time, humanity just became a reminder of everything he lost - his home, his brother, his Father. It wasn't until the loss of his brother that Lucifer (alt!Gabriel) went completely off the deep end and resolved to wipe out all humans, no longer trying to see anything good in them. Very much a "if God won't listen to me then I will destroy everything he loves the same way he destroyed what I loved" type deal.
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themyscirah · 7 months
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I think that comic creators should be forced to read the entirety of Ostrander & Yale's Suicide Squad run before they even THINK of using Amanda Waller in anything actually
#its like oh my god. read that book#i swear to god she is complex and has so much going on ans just like you NEED to read that book if you want the slightest CHANCE of doing#suicide squad justice#but then ofc ppl just care abt having a mean boss character they dont actually care about HER#i said comic creators bc its the writing and the art both#bc they dont do her character justice with the writing but then they also dont draw her anything like she looks like#like she is called 'the wall' for a reason guys she is NOT skinny as a twig like cmon#and shes not young either the woman is middle aged shes like 40s/50s#anyways. forcing ppl at gunpoint to read good suicide squad comics. instead of just slapping harley quinn on a team with some random#villains and calling it a day#also the suicide squad is supposed to be a MIX of heroes and villains!!! theres supposed to be varying moralities there! and waller isnt#evil guys istg- shes ambitious and kind of mean and p much ALWAYS stuck between a rock and a hard place but shes not evil!!!!#like cmon guys. its a book about heroes and villains on a team together doing off the books missions. its gonna have nuance esp in the#central kind of figure#godddddd ive been wanting to reread suicide squad SO bad these past 2 days#ever since plastique and waller showed up in nu52 jla im just like ahfiahdsuehdvdjc SUICIDE SQUAD#but i must stop myself. bc whenever i start reading multiple things at once THATS when shit hits the fan#and i go into a slump where i don't read comics for like 8 months and never finish the books im reading#so we're not going to do that but man am i tempted#maybe what i should do is watch the suicide squad movie. the james gunn one. maybe that would fix me actually#viola davis amanda waller goes sooooooo hard actually. casting choice of the century imo#and also they had rick flagg leading the team there which i respect. hes no ben turner but its something#especially since nu52 jla tried to turn steve trevor into a bargain bin rick flagg jr which was... certainly a choice#anyways <3333#also rip my stats this is a loss for feminism geoff johns just knocked kim yale out of my no 5 comic author spot on the tracker app 😔😔😔#im so sorry kim i didn’t mean to do you dirty like that ma'am#blah#suicide squad#dc comics#amanda waller
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shikai-the-storyteller · 10 months
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Every time the topic of Vegetta and marriage comes up I am forced to see misinformation or even flat out lies about Vegetta's past wedding experience and his relationship with Rubius and I just
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aceredshirt13 · 11 months
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Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Sherlock Holmes (Downey films), Sherlock Holmes & Related Fandoms
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences 
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply 
Relationships: Sebastian Moran/James Moriarty 
Characters: James Moriarty, Sebastian Moran 
Additional Tags: First Meetings, Partners in Crime, in a light sense. this is mostly their days off, Teasing, Murder, (but it's offscreen), Pigeons, Operas, i really based this whole fic off like four lines in the second movie huh, Feelings Realization, this fic is almost certainly too silly 
Summary:
Moran has a bit of a crush on the man he works for.
To Moriarty, this is convenient, amusing, and… unexpectedly pleasant.
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i can’t believe (pastiche redacted for spoilers) got me into moraniarty but boy howdy am i glad it did. they’re insane and i adore them
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hauntingblue · 1 month
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NAMI NEEDS TO GO UP THERE AND FIGHT BIG MOM I AM SO SERIOUS!!! THIS IS A BATTLE FOR THE ROMANCE DOWN TRIO!! SANJI DO NOT DARE TAKE HER SPOT!!!
#big mom just giving birth here on the battlefield.....#do i comment on the incestuous relationship between clouds made of the same soul??? no?? okay...#oh jesus.... goodbye kid and killer.... nami needs to get up there and take control of zeus and i am so serious#HER SKILL IS SO POWERFUL AND SO PERFECT FOR THIS FIGHT AGAINST BIG MOM BUT BECAUSE SHE IS NOT PART OF THE STRONG TRIO SHE GETS STUCK WITH#THE B LIST VILLAINS!!!! LKKE WHY DOES SHE NEED TO FIGHT ULTI?? OKAY THAT WAS MEANINGFUL BUT THAT COULD END THERE!!!!#SANJI GO FIGHT PAGE ONE!!! SOMEONE TAKE CARE OF ULTI AND LET LUFFY ZORO AND NAMI TAKE CARE OF KAIDO AND BIG MOM!!! I AM SERIOUS!!!#big mom is inside the castle.... maybe i will get my wish granted (kinda...)#kid and nami against big mom.... maybe sanji can join... i can see it so clearly.... come on now.....#if namo knew armor haki she would have gone up there and taken zeus and dealt with prometheus and his sister wife. let the others w/ big mom#fucking hawkins... end him killer.... calling him domesticated lmao... end his pathetic ass#using conqueror's haki on the weapons..... also zoro having it too.... the flower petals symbolism..... OHHHHHHHHH#nani indeed...... BREAK THAT MACE!!!! YEAAHHH!!!! law is completely baffled#KAIDO GOT SENT BACK!!!! LETSGOOOOO AND THE OG INTRO MUSIC QUICKS IN!!!! law just saw god again....#he said fuck off i got this.... omg.... he is either gonna nearly die and doesn't want them to follow or doesn't want to worry about them#while he fights and they try to defend him.... no other explaination (apart for 4 the plot reasons)#talking tag#watching one piece#episode 1028#luffy king of everything that was such a slay#they changed luffy chiquito's design....#i was gonna say luffy swimming...... but he can't yet akdhajsj#yasopp taking care of everyones children but his own...... i see how it is....#WHY WOULD SHANKS STAY IN GOA IF NOT TO TALK WITH GARP WHO LIVES THERE!!! I AM TELLING YOU SHANKS IS IN KAHOOTS WITH THE MARINES!!!!#i was thinking about shanks scar... and thought it might be from buggy with his three knives in between his fingers you know#but it is too small... like the knives would take more space.... but maybei might be reaching and it is from buggy and not like a little paw#or little hand.... however much distrubing you want to paint it....#shanks is testing little luffy's intelligence... he knows his weak spot already akdhjasj#uta calling herself a diva.... ajshaksn might this be the reason luffy was so inclined to having a musician since the start???#episode 1029#that was like a perfectly realistic relationship between an older smartass girl and a younger boy lmao it was spot on
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rogersstevie · 3 months
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the only thing i'm not looking forward to is all the new ways people will use this new album to villainize joe, like unfollowing a few blogs helped but it's not 100 percent gonna get me away from that shit
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tathrin · 1 year
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wtf how is my silvergifting/gwaith-i-mirdain playlist already twice the length of my gimleaf one when I only started it like a week ago?
(I guess I just know more songs that suit that dynamic, which should perhaps be slightly concerning...except that I’ve always loved a good villain song the best, so. Far too late to be concerned about that now!)
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alexwlwesker · 2 years
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Not to be unnormal about RE villains per usual but I like to think of Alex sitting in her secluded tower after most of the island has died off obsessing over her red queen simulator like she's playing the Sims
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Shen Qingqiu - the scum villain
Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System volumes 1-3 by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu / Never Love An Anchor by The Crane Wives (6) / What I Could Never Confess Without Some Bravado by Emily Palermo (10) / Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card (14) / Dogfish by Mary Oliver (21) / The First Bad Man by Miranda July (26) / The Hour of the Star by Clarice Lispector (29)
Text descriptions for each photo: 1- from here on out,” Shen Qingqiu said at last, "but you must always remember what I've told you here today. In this world, there is nothing intolerable to the heavens. This is true for all races, as it's true for humans." 2- In that instant, Shen Qingqiu completely forgot about Luo Binghe's plot armor. At the moment of truth, subconsciously, he once again moved to protect his student. 3- An in-book image from Scum Villain volume 1, page 99, depicting Shen Qingqiu taking a hit for Luo Binghe 4- When their palms connected, blood churned in Shen Qingqiu’s chest as if someone had punched him there. The spiritual energy in his body surged like it was boiling over. Though he had already formed a core and his cultivation wasn't low, what was a golden core against the right hand of the future demon lord, Luo Binghe? But he had to go all out and try. 5- Luo Binghe had been paying keen attention to Shen Qingqiu's condition. He noticed something was off and asked, "Shizun?" "It's nothing," Shen Qingqiu rushed to say. "Focus on yourself." 6- I am selfish, I am broken, I am cruel I am all the things they might have said to you 7- to protect himself. What if there was an unexpected accident? This was really too concerning. How could he not do his part to watch over them? 8- Liu Qingge instantly assumed that Shen Qingqiu intended him harm, but he was helpless to avoid the touch. Only after the palm connected did he feel a clear steady stream of spiritual energy enter and flow through his body, smoothing his circulation. 9- Anyways, this sequence of events had unfolded in the original work. Shen Qingqiu had thought he could avoid it before, but he hadn't expected things would still circle back to this set plot arc. Why force Cang Qiong Mountain and Huan Hua Palace to have a falling out as well? 10- I AM VOLATILE VIOLATED MY BODY WAS NOT ALWAYS MY OWN
I ONLY LOOK INTO THE MIRROR TO SEE THE WHITES OF MY EYES 11- The reason Yue Qingyuan had ordered Liu Qingge to step down was so he could step up to fight himself?! Unbelievable! Reportedly, ever since the Cang Qiong Mountain Sect’s Peak Lord of Qiong Ding, Yue Qingyuan, had succeeded his position, he’d only drawn his sword twice: once during his succession ceremony and once when he’d 12- Tianlang-Jun nodded. “So that’s how it is. No wonder his bladework and spiritual power are so superb. But why would the Bai Zhan Peak Lord suddenly grace the southern border with his presence?” Liu Qingge leaned to the side slightly, and Cheng Luan flew back into his hand. He flicked away the beads of blood gathered upon the blade tip and said coldly, “Is Shen Qingqiu here?” Shen Qingqiu was overwhelmed by this show of favor. What, was Great Master Liu here to save him? 13- If Liu Qingge had done such a thing... Surely he isn’t taking revenge for my sake, is he? 14- Perhaps it’s impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. 15- Cheng Luan flared, its sword glare sweeping past Luo Binghe’s cheek and whipping up his hair. Luo Binghe put his hand on the sword hung at his waist, returning bite for bite. “You overestimate yourself.” In the end, however, the two swords failed to cross again. Shen Qingqiu stood between them. 16- After all, she was one of Luo Binghe’s harem. She was the one who was supposed to be clawing at the ground, wailing to the heavens- but instead she’d come to comfort her master. Had his instruction actually had some effect? 17- Butterfly effect - noun - (in chaos theory) the phenomenon whereby a minute localized change in a complex system can have large effects elsewhere. 18- “I’m no longer a child,” said Ning Yingying. “I don’t need to be taken care of! It’s always Shizun taking on everything himself, whether it was that time with the demon woman or against Huan Hua Palace at Jin Lan City. So this time, why must it be you again? Why is it always Shizun who needs to suffer each and every time?” 19- [Ning Yingying: Subverted the trope of a female character being a brainless martyr for love. B-Points +100.] [Ming Fan: Subverted the trope of a side character being an illogical idiot. B-Points +50.] [Liu Mingyan: Subverted the trope of a female character being a nonsensical martyr for love. B-Points +150.] 20- “Then that means this creature has never done anything malicious. There’s no need to exterminate it. Moreover, all it’s ever done has been to drink the dew water in this cave. We were the ones who intruded and disturbed it.” 21- Mostly, I want to be kind. And nobody, of course, is kind, or mean, for a simple reason. 22- The young man stood by the table and smiled. “Humans have a saying: a drop of kindness should be repaid by a flood. Moreover, the kindness from Immortal Master Shen far exceeded a drop.” 23- “Who’s there?” Liu Qingge asked quietly. Shen Qingqiu didn’t answer and instead sent more force through his hand. The two peerlessly powerful streams of spiritual energy merged into one. 24- Yue Qingyuan and Liu Qingge sent a message with their actions: Go ahead and fight, but under no circumstances may you strike the Qing Jing Peak Lord! 25- “You fear becoming a burden to Cang Qiong Mountain,” Liu Qingge said, “but Cang Qiong Mountain fears not your burden.” 26- up without bothering to hang up. Finally, in a low whisper, he said, “I think I might be a terrible person.” For a split second I believed him- I thought he was about to confess a crime, maybe a murder. Then I realized that we all think we might be terrible people. But we only reveal this before we ask someone to love us. It is a kind of undressing. 27- When the sower threw itself toward a Qing Jing Peak disciple, Shen Qingqiu flashed between them and planted a foot in the sower’s chest, sending it flying through two tables and spewing fresh blood everywhere. He turned his head to yell at the group. “Hurry up and leave!” 28- The Old Palace Master said leisurely, “I’ll ask again: Will you step aside or not?” Shen Qingqiu lowered his arm. The blood that had slowed its steady flow from his palm began to drip once more. “The Old Palace Master himself said that he’s my darling disciple,” he said in an even tone as he lifted his head, “Tell me, do you think I’d step aside?” There was nothing for it; now was not the same as then. No matter what, Shen Qingqiu couldn’t convince himself to use the protagonist’s plot armor, to coldly stand aside and let someone else hack at Luo Binghe, to bet on whether he would live or die. 29- who hasn’t ever wondered: am I a monster or is this what it means to be a person? 30- What he said was, “For all that has passed, I repay you today.” Think of it as me doing one good thing at the end. Then he toppled backward and off the building.
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wheatstar · 5 months
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why is shadow so hard to get through i want to be done with it so bad... really really not looking forward to thunder
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