#just go into real life and say where's the callout op

[olderthannetfic]

jfc the amount of stupidity I saw in that poll's notes! The NTA people are saying the OP didn't make a callout post when they did something just as bad! Callout posts are made to inform as many people as possible, the OP just decided to inform people by telling them one by one - both have the same results.

I've seen a lot shows wherein the bullying tactic done to the poor protagonist is the one where the bullies spread terrible things that have people whispering things behind someone's back. The OP of that aita ask going around telling people of the "nasty" thing that the author does so that people would avoid the author is exactly that but on the internet!

In real life, many people of different careers also engage (either create or consume) works others may find gross or weird but outside of their jobs or in the case of authors/celebrities, they do so under a penname. I wonder if the people that said the OP isn't wrong for informing others would come up to random people to do the same thing irl and instead of about fics it's about celebrities since those have more popularity than some random fics? In real life people would just think OP is crazy.

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[jenovacomplete]

stayed silent publicly at the time to avoid harassment, but given that alex kister's accuser has come forward themselves and acknowledged that their callout post weaponised transmisogyny to ruin kister's life, i feel like i can finally say it: the callout of alex kister and the subsequent spiral is a textbook example of transmisogyny in action, and further exemplifies how few people can put their money where their mouth is when it comes to it. i cannot put into words how fucking heartbreaking that original document is to read, and i cannot articulate my disgust at people who read someone promising to never explore their gender identity or sexuality again and came out the other side going "yeah, this sounds reasonable". in the weeks since, i've been going back and forth over it, and writing this post i keep trying to soften the blow, to make this less impersonal for the naive to read -- but i can't. there is no way for me to spin this as anything but what it is: a failure. every single person who blindly followed this shit failed, and you should be ashamed, because it's fucking shameful that all it took to blind some of you was some vaguely progressive-sounding wording sprinkled throughout a hate screed.

like, every single aspect of that original document is a perfect case study in transmisogyny -- how it frames trans women's sexuality as something inherently awful, the fact that it literally concludes that kister's gender was a fetish... fuck, man, i could go on, but i don't particularly want to. instead, i just want to present this very telling quote from it:

I then created a thread for the channel because I was getting a little annoyed with gender discussions and the Mandela Catalogue discussions colliding and constantly going off-track. He continued talking about his experiences and what he does in private.

this, right here? if opening with outing their ex didn't do it, this should have been your wake-up call. not only is op upset that the creator of the mandela catalogue is taking things "off-topic" by talking about themselves in a tmc server, of particular note is their wording here: "what he does in private", as if discussions of gender are akin to what you do in the bedroom.

this is what happens when you do not know how to define something beyond the dictionary, and this failure has real, tangible consequences for everyone involved. let me reiterate: alex kister was fucking outed. this is something that cannot be undone. i wish it could be, but it can't, and we all have to live with that. about the only kind thing i have left to say is: failure is also an opportunity for growth, and i, for one, hope those who did so take it.

the rest would be against tumblr tos.

#speaking! #transmisogyny #transphobia #misgendering #<-in the quote #this is messy & sucks & i'm sorry for it #i am just So Fucking Angry #(& very tired lmao) #this isn't even touching on the ableism #or the harm done to the kids involved being 99% op's fault #by spreading this shit privately #BEFORE the callout #it's awful. this whole thing is awful #discourse #long post

[chainofclovers]

I don’t think the OP of this lovely post (pictured here)…

…has seen s2 of the show yet so I didn’t want to reblog with a bunch of words about something they haven’t watched but this post made me feel so much nostalgia for the PERFECT feeling of having consumed Ted Lasso s1 and Ted Lasso s1 only. My least favorite parts of the fandom experience (ship wars, Twitter, toxic positivity aka Missing the Entire Point) were not on my radar at all. I was just living in this sweet little deceptively complicated and absolutely beautiful world of dreamy characters!

BUT!

I loved s2 too, and this perfect s1 post actually reminds me of something I specifically love about it, which is that…in s2, a lot of that showing up and courage and loving callout stuff that happens in s1 falters. Not because those things aren’t important, but because the writing on this show has something really important to say about how the big, scary, painful stuff in life can actually trap us in a place where we can’t just rely on our own gestures to get out of it. There are moments that transcend the sadness and isolation, like when Rebecca pulls Ted out of his flat on Christmas, or when Beard does show up with the coffee the day after the Man City match, or when the season finale hits and people finally seem ready to start talking to each other about real things again.

S1 defines the culture of the show—be good for other people. But s2 reminds us that you can’t be good for other people if you’re not good for yourself, and if you can’t be good for yourself because you’re being haunted by things too big and too painful to navigate on your own, you have to figure out how to ask for help. People don’t ask for help very much in s1; they perceive needs in each other and respond. S2 gets more painful, and the only way out is to consciously say I want to make an appointment or Stay, Ted or (this one is paraphrased) Your mustache is going to pop off your face if you don’t talk. Ted wouldn’t have been able to keep going without therapy, because his normal coping mechanisms were no longer enough.

So many fans seemed to feel like s2 eroded the culture of s1, but I don’t think it did at all. Rather, it was a reminder that without external structures in place (like therapy, like friendships that include a commitment to being honest, like a workplace environment that makes it explicitly safe to provide feedback and talk about the things that happen to you) that make it possible to care for self and others during painful times, you can risk losing what the happier version of you would never let go of.

(And I also think about the social commentary of 2x3 with Sam’s decision to lead the protest, and the soulmate-y parallels of 2x10, and how even when certain individuals aren’t able to feel the warmth they deserve, it doesn’t ever stop existing.)

I have not watched a single episode of Ted Lasso in 2022 because something in me wanted to take a little break, but I’m planning to rewatch both seasons this week. I have NEVER watched this entire show straight through, not since s1, when I watched those episodes straight through many times. My memories of s1 are of this very warm world with flickers of pain, and my memories of s2 are of this very painful world with flickers (big flickers) of warmth, and I’m finally genuinely excited to experience that straight through.

I’ll always be so grateful to have spent that time with s1 and s1 only, just feeling wrapped in that already-complicated universe that they somehow made feel so simple, but I’m also grateful for the ways it got more harshly complicated in s2, because it was necessary, and something about heartmotifs’s post makes me extra excited for s3, too.

#ted lasso #hot dork club #meta by me #ted lasso meta #(sort of)

[patchesbeanie]

idk like if you want imaginary friends and blorbos to blorbo with then maybe just find a new fandom with some characters or sth that you actually like?? like fandom's supposed to be fun i don't understand why you'd keep holding on to it when you don't like anything about it

yeah!! like obviously dsmp characters are, y'know, characters but they are not separate from the ccs in a way that fictive characters usually are from the author because the dsmp is roleplay. it feels super fucking weird to me to hate a cc but still continue to make fan content about them.

this post got really long so read if you want to!

honestly i feel like a lot of tommy and tubbo's fans have been wishfully thinking that their ccs are completely unaware about things and aren't that close to dream. they have talked like that for months (if not longer) and most of them have been convinced that this is actually the reality when everyone who doesn't read into what ccs say and take things more at face value has been able to understand just how adamantly tommy supports dream. it doesn't help that a lot of the twitter fans are quite young and seemingly not very good at reading social situations (i have seen a lot of tweets where op says that out loud). obviously there's nothing wrong with either of these things but it does lessen the whole fandom's reading and listening comperhension, which does have consequenses.

anyway, now that tommy especially is so damn loud and clear about his support of dream (also specific of the current situation) it's like a rug has been pulled from under their feet. they wished he didn't know, he clearly knows. they wished he would react a certain way, he doesn't care. they wished he would distance himself, he mentions him every stream. it's like a crash landing from miles high and lots of these people don't have healthy and meaningful ways to use their time and energy. also, people like shitting on things in a group setting. we do that here on dtblr too all the time so people shittalking and being mad shouldn't really surprise us.

the saddest thing about a lot of fandoms popular with young people is that they attract lonely and bullied kids who feel distanced from their irl friends. what do you do when you don't have healthy coping mechanisms and something that brought you joy and helped you find like-minded people ends up as something that you don't like anymore? then you wallow in misery and the feelings of betrayal with the people online and lash out at others. it makes everything worse for everyone but if you've seen how they acted online before this, you know that a) that isn't a problem for these people b) or they are just wholly unaware of how they act. this is just a long way to say that it's hard to distance yourself from something if you are lonely and feel betrayed by something that brought you comfort. it's no excuse, but it makes me feel empathy for those fans who are clearly just lonely middle schoolers who feel like they don't fit in. obviously there are also fans that are grown adults or just want the adrenaline they get from retweeting a callout post, but this part of the post isn't really about them.

this post isn't ment to psychoanalyze inniters or whatever and i don't feel like i do that. honestly, if there's anything i want people to understand is that we really gotta look after each other and that having friends in real life (in addition to online) is so important to keeping yourself levelheaded, so please go talk to people outside too.

#this is just stream of consciousness for most part #but i can't help but to feel empathy and also pity for a lot of the younger fans #mwah ask #mwah anon #sorry this took a long time to answer

[gothicprep]

i saw some pretty ghastly shit on my dash last night, and i have nothing better to do than to weigh in. but instead of naming names, i'm going to try to toe the line and redact some specifics & paraphrase while trying to represent this as fairly as possible. take my word for it when i say i got my hands dirty enough to get the full picture on this.

person a makes a post that says something to the effect of "it's wrong to e-stalk someone with the express purpose of sexually shaming them for a callout post. if someone is circulating a post that's saying 'this person is into omegaverse? it's that disgusting?', in my opinion, OP is significantly less safe to be around than the subject of the post. most of the time this happens, it's targeting a trans woman, and this is good enough reason to be more critical about this practice"

before i move on here, it's important to point out that this sort of thing happens so often online that it's impossible to look like a statement like that and definitively say it's referencing something specific. i think the most egregious example of this i can think of relating to a callout here is five years back where a nontrivial amount of the post was. like. screenshots of sexually explicit conversations between 14-15 year old users. and that's just tumblr. not even getting into the far slimier versions of this on kiwifarms, 4chan, or if you really want to turn back the clock, encyclopedia dramatica or something awful.

the post makes the rounds and is intercepted by person b, who does some mental calculus and deduces that it was made in reference to a large callout post that was going around. unfortunately i have not been able to dig the post up for the life of me because everyone who's been talking about this situation has been vague about this, but the gist is that it had several people on it an the broader theme was extreme sexual creepiness – race play, noncon, pedophilia, and bestiality included in the mix. person b expresses surprise that person a apparently sided with racists, and people who sexually assault children or animals, but concludes that person a is a cis white woman and "they're usually all three".

person a gets angry about this for reasons that i think don't need to be elaborated on. "this statement could be applied to this call out, therefore it definitely is, and person a is defending these people specifically and she's doing it because she's like them". both are doubling down. person b is also saying that person a was the mod on an anti social justice blog in '14. there is no evidence for this, other than the blog having a mod from the same country as her, with the same nickname, which is very, very flimsy grounds.

so, what exactly happened here? A doesn't mention any of that stuff in the post. omegaverse, maybe you could make some kind of case for if you're reading the post as "defending omegaverse" rather than "condemning sexual harassment". but i don't think racism and sexual abuse apologia is an entirely fair thing to extrapolate, even if omegaverse is the given example and it's a dubious trope. especially because the big call out wasn't about the omegaverse, right?

the short answer is i'm not sure what B was doing here, but i feel like her response being to try and dig up dirt on A's online past, and deferring to something speculative and unsubstantiated when she can't readily do that is a massive call for concern.

but all that out of the way, i want to talk a little bit about how situations like these are good examples of how frivolously extremely serious allegations can be thrown around.

for one, making a joke about "well most of the people in this demographic group fuck children and pets anyway" doesn't really seem like the kind of shit you say if you take abuse seriously by any real measure. but it gets worse.

do you guys want to know why conservatives are really fond of casting gay & trans people as pedophiles and child groomers? it's because it's very, very common for people to be okay with violence against people who sexually abuse children, and feel urgently enough about this that they're willing to turn a bit of a blind eye to forgoing due process in support of that, due to the weight of it. their goal is to tap into that same justified anger and visceral disgust and weaponize it against a group they dislike. so seeing B react to A's post highlighting that this sort of cyberstalking tends to hurt trans women the most with "well white women tend to be pedophiles, amongst other things" strikes me as very, very reckless advocacy. and that's me being a lot more generous than they deserve.

also:

you could apply this vague post to a callout –> she's probably a creep in the same way they are –> *additional accusation based on extremely circumstantial events*

you can follow how this has a way of calling into suspect the original allegations in the callout, right? if this vague statement about a common instance online can be used to suggest that someone is a pedophile, how exactly was that determined for the other people involved in this? did someone come forward and say "this older user put me in some very uncomfortable sexual situations" or was it a similar situation of "i read their post in the worst possible light"? we understand that it's extremely dangerous to create a boy who cried wolf situation with stuff like this, right?

there have been plenty of bunk callouts on here. some cases like the lesbian makeup application photo, which was just complete shit. or the mitski sex trafficking debacle, that was the unfortunate result of a user having a psychosis episode – even though they later told people over and over again that they had written it while hallucinating and it still kept circulating. surely we need to have some kind of vetting process? but many situations of abuse are not going to have a paper trail, which complicates things.

what to do, then? i guess something like this, it's worth your time to dive into posts that have more of a gossipy "they said a bad thing" tone and figure out why it something is being said/if it's a fair interpretation of events. as for things where this isn't an option, i truly don't have any ideas.

either way, the kind of internet conduct where you just assume the worst possible faith at all time isn't keeping anyone safer.

#long post #like. very very long post

[eulangelo]

callout for @genderfluidlucifer

google docs

tw for transmisogyny + TERFs + emotional manipulation

Transmisogyny

Lucifer is a huge transmisogynist who will complain 24/7 about how TERFs hurt the ace community, but the moment @randomclustermissile , a trans girl (who is not an exclusionist at all) tries to point out transmisogyny in inclusionist circles (in the most vague and general way possible, without pointing fingers nor calling anyone names) Lucifer will immediatly jump to block her and so they did with me (another inclusionist) and i have to suppose to everyone else who agreed with that post, even arriving to vagueing about us in private group chats to suggest that we were “sympathizing with exclusionists”. all because we dared point out transmisogyny in inclusionist circles. lucifer is TME but apparently they think they’re the authority on TERFs and their talking points but actual trans women are not, according to them, since this is the stuff that they would go and spew to other people. (screenshots from @enbyoctoling​)

here’s more examples of Lucifer (again, a transmasc person) going deep in detail about how according to them, TERFs/SWERFs hate aro/ace people and are an active threat to us

1. link

[Image ID: Three screenshots of a post by Genderfluidlucifer. The first screenshot is of a paragraph that reads, "Hey. So I can actually answer this. Anon your commentary about how you thought terfs would approve of sex repulsed aces is sort of it. Except...not. Basically terfs hate ace people for not wanting sex in the approved by terfs way. Terfs are actually extremely interested in [forcing] amatonormativity onto everyone. Because for as sex negative as terfs are...they don't want to actually acknowledge or change the fact that amatonormativity is at the root cause of rape culture and misogyny."

The second screenshot is a zoomed in section of the post that reads, "So yeah no I have NO idea where exclus allies are getting this idea from that terfs would even remotely care about the sexual rights of ace people. Terfs generally hate any sexualities in the LGBTQ+ acronym that aren't LGB because they can't force a gender binary onto those sexualities. At least, not as easily. That's why it's actually a massive sign of someone who doesn't call themselves a terf being a crypto terf if they use the term LGB in a positive manner. Along with the term SGA, as it is deliberately exclusive of nonbinary and not inherently SGA centric queer-aligned sexualities. /END ID]

link to the full post, these are just excerpts but the whole thing is just a very long rant about how TERFs hate ace people and so on (i think it’s worth noticing that although the actual post is kinda long, trans women are never once brought op in a conversation about TERFs issues and the only time transmisogyny is mentioned is not relevant to the conversation)

2. link

[Image ID: A screenshot of a reblog by genderfluidlucifer. The original poster is nothorses. It reads, "Because apparently I have to say it: Testosterone is not a 'violent' hormone. It doesn't make you 'more aggressive' or a worse person, it doesn't make you 'dangerous,' or 'toxic.' Transmascs do not need to be 'warned of the dangers of T.' We do not need to spend our transitions terrified that we're going to become a danger to those around us - that HRT is going to turn us into a monster.

Everyone experiences mood swings during hormonal shifts (pregnancy, menstruation, menopause, estrogen HRT, etc.) and while you might have grumpy moments or feel anger/frustration that you need to learn to handle differently, that doesn't make you a bad person.

Testosterone can change the way you access/process emotions somewhat, but if you're already thoughtful about how you handle your feelings and treat others, you're going to be fine. It's normal to lash out on occasion, by accident, then apologize and work to do better. It doesn't make you a bad person. Everyone on HRT is prone to this, and everyone experiencing hormonal changes is prone to this.

Getting HRT should be positive and affirming; you should not have to spend your entire transition terrified of becoming a monster."

The post then has a reblog by captainlordauditor that reads, "The big danger of T is that needle ouchy." /END ID]

here’s them reblogging from known transmisogynist user @nothorses (once again, the irony that a post about how testosterone is seen as the "aggressive hormone" does not mention transfem at all which are literally the main victims of this rethoric in the first place)

3. link (1), link (2)

[Image ID: Two screenshots of posts by genderfluidlucifer. The first screenshot reads, "Queer exclus: We're not repackaging terf rhetoric! Saying that is transmisogynistic! Also queer exclus: Remove the plus from LGBT!" and has tags that say, "I will pay these people to grow some god damn self awareness. Imagine being this dense. Queer discourse." The post has 15 notes.

The second screenshot reads, "Honestly it is so stupid and frustrating to see ace exclus continue to deny that the ace discourse was started by terfs. Proof was given countless times. And a big name terf like galesofnovember even admitted to starting it. Those of you who demand proof but ignore all of this never wanted proof to begin with." and is tagged with, "ace discourse. The post has 38 notes. /END ID]

heres another two post of theirs conflating TERFs with ace exclusionism

4. link

[Image ID: A screenshot of a reblogged post by furbearingbrick. The original poster is boxlizard, Lucifer's old account. The original post reads, "By the way for people still in denial about it, here's galesofnovember, a terf, admitting that she intended to start the ace exclus movement. She's taking credit for it. Normally if the victims of this behavior weren't ace/aro or other queer identities y'all be ready to rightfully lynch her. But since it's us, y'all just still wanna stamp your feet and go, 'Nuh uh!' instead of acknowledging facts." The part that says, "admitting that she intended to start the ace exclus movement" is a link to a galesofnovember post.

There is then a reblogged addition from furbearing brick that reads, "archived versions of the receipts" and has two links to the webarchive. The tags read, "Bringing this back since it's apparently still relevant. Terfism mention. Aphobia mention. Queerphobia mention. Blocklist." and has 1,455 notes. /END ID]

this is their post that ive already talked about but basically they found a 52 notes post made by a TERF in 2012 and this one person said "i dont know why i dont get to be the princess of the anti-ace-brigade" and apparently they are convinced that this means TERFs started the ace exclusionism movement and that this is one of their goals. which is insane when TERFs in real life only care about making life miserable for transfem people first and foremost.

5.link

[Image ID: A screenshot of a reblog by genderfluidlucifer. The original poster is yu-gay-fudo. It reads, “Just in case you happen to be unaware, some of the “radfem lite” they post to warm you up to their rhetoric, just off the top of my head:

- Ace/aro exclusionism

- Bi exclusionism or claims that bi people are “less queer” bc of “straight passive privilege”

- Saying you have to be dysphoric to identify as transInvalidating nonbinary people

- Calling queer a slur regardless of context, saying people can’t identify as queer, and saying that it can’t be reclaimed

- “Mogai hell”, “kweer”, or otherwise mocking less common labels and claiming they are “just cishets who want to feel special”

- Excluding sex workers from feminist discussions or claiming that sex work is inherently evil

- Basically anyone who thinks they can determine what other people identify as”. The tags read, "queerphobia tw. twerfs tw. no id." and has 70,727 notes. It was reblogged on March 22nd, 2021 /END ID]

another example of conflating radfems to things that, while wrong, have little to nothing to do with them because being a radfem, again, is something very specific that has all to do with transfem oppression.

Emotional manipulation

Lucifer has done nothing but block, break boundaries, spread lies and vague about people, some of which were even mutuals with them knowing they would see the posts. when confronted about it Lucifer's only answer was "just say you hate me and block me" but they actually ended up blocking everyone first, making it impossible for anyone to set some boundaries with them or even just to calmly confront them about anything.

[proof: Io(popncourse) and Lucifer had a disagreement in a shared discord server, which prompted Lucifer to vague Io in a vent post. Io confronted them, as being vagued is one of buns triggers, to which Lucifer initially agreed to delete the vent post, but then proceeded to victimize themself and immediatly blocked Io. later on, Jude(malewifedeckard) was confronted by Lucifer, then after Jude told them “I’m worried that you’ll vague me just like you did with Io” they proceeded to block Jude and vagued about him too. when Io made a post (which was not a callout, it was just bun setting buns boundaries) explaining what Lucifer did, Lucifer immediatly jumped to victimize themself, acting like they were being called out and straight-up lying, even going so far as to say that no one tried to hear them out, which is a blatant lie if you consider the aforementioned Io and Jude’s attempts at doing so, with Lucifer immediatly blocking and cutting ties with the both of them. ] 

(screenshots taken by @popncourse and @malewifedeckard)

as seen in the proof above Lucifer’s behaviour is not ok because they don’t accept any kind of confrontation and immediatly jump to blocking, and after blocking, they'd immediatly go and vague about the people who confronted them pacificly, spreading more lies and painting themself as the victim and even arriving to say “no one hears me out at all” which is simply not something you can say when you block people who are trying to hear you out in the first place.

this is by no means an invitation to go and harass them, send them hate or anything like that. i absolutely don’t want anything even remotely hateful or negative to be sent their way after this post. 

this post was only made because:

1. as an ace person who fully supports the inclusion of aspec identities in the lgbt+ community i don’t want to support an enviroment that costantly downplays transmisogynistic oppression in order to be taken seriously. there are hundreds of ways to make aspec activism without acting like we(as in TME aspecs)are the victims of a system that seeks for the annihilation of transfemenine people in real life everyday. i especially don’t want to support TME individuals who act transfem-friendly but then block any transfem who tries to speak on transmisogyny without a second thought.

2. Lucifer’s behaviour has hurt two friends of mine and i don’t want to associate with someone who actively breaks people’s boundaries without taking accountability when messing up.

3. i cannot associate with someone who spreads lies about me accusing me of sympathizing with exclusionists all while having me blocked so that i can’t see it nor defend me. they complain about people not hearing them out but they’re the very first person who does not try to hear people out, and instead jumps to spread baseless rumors. this is not someone i can nor want to associate with. 

(image descriptions provided by @malewifedeckard)

#genderfluidlucifer #transmisogyny tw #terfs tw #ask to tag #txt #long post #ok to rb

[vampish-glamour]

Ooohh my god... i just read a twitter thread that fried my brain. It was a callout post where op was calling out someone else for claiming that lesbian was a sexuality and that a lesbian could be romantically attracted to men but not sexually attracted to them. Now, I agree with op on that. The brain frying part comes in cause op is a xe/it/he """lesbian""" and basically EVERYONE mentioned in the thread used neos so it made following the story basically impossible... so I might have misunderstood everything tbh...

(And I didn't read it all cause it's unnecessarily long)

Here it is if you're interested in trying to decipher it https://twitter.com/VOREH4N/status/1404980963617222661?s=19

Holy shit. Holy fucking shit.

So obviously I agree with op that “biromantic lesbian”, “bisexual lesbian”, or any sort of “identity” that implies lesbians can be attracted to men in any way is incredibly harmful. Because “lesbians can be attracted to men” is exactly what sleazy homophobic dudes have been wanting to hear forever, and they’re going to be using this as an excuse to hit on lesbians because “she could be a bisexual lesbian”.

However.

It’s very hypocritical of op to go on about things that are harmful to lesbians… while op is a nonbinary lesbian who uses he/xie/it pronouns.

Because the very notion that lesbians are not women is harmful. It takes away the word that homosexual women use to describe homosexual women, and invites men to call themselves lesbians to try to act like they should be accepted into both the lesbian community and dating pool. If you can understand why it’s harmful to say lesbians can be attracted to people who aren’t women, you should also understand why it’s harmful to say that lesbians don’t have to be women themselves.

But the thread itself is actually a really good example of how neopronouns simply can’t be applied to real life.

Here’s some screenshots for those of you who don’t want to completely fry your brains.

So, does Sol use both buns and fox pronouns? Are we switching pronouns? Is Sol the old name and Fox is the new name? I don’t ono what’s happening.

“Non lesbians”…. Interesting, coming from a “nonbinary lesbian”. Back to pronouns—are fairy and xie both pronouns?? Are we talking about somebody named Fairy and xie is their pronoun? FUCK. (At this point, capitalizing names would help a fuck ton)

Reading this, I figured that Sol and Moon were separate people. As in, “person A lied so person B wouldn’t get cancelled”. But as I later learned…

…Sol uses moonself pronouns.

Insert classic misgendering apology lmfao. Can you really get mad at somebody for “misgendering” you when you’re using all these neopronouns??? I’m 99% sure that fox and moon are Sol’s pronouns, and this person’s just switching them up.

I can’t decipher this shit. No logical human being who isn’t deep into MOGAI circles 24/7 can decipher this shit.

Pronouns are supposed to make language easier, not make me feel like I’m trying to decode Egyptian hieroglyphics.

#asks #anon #thanks anon I hate it 😂

[kuromichad]

sorry but that post going around saying “proshipper means pedophile” is like. not necessarily wrong in spirit but it is literally just not true that ‘proship’ was created to replace ‘map/nomap’ and it’s aggravating me so fucking much that op is calling anyone who tries to say so a pedo apologist. (hence making my own post about it.) 

map/nomap is a term for people who are literally self-identifying as pedophiles like they are people who openly state that they are attracted to Real Actual Children and just supposedly are vowing to not do anything about it. ‘proship’ is a fucking fandom term that just means the obvious inverse of ‘anti-[underage/incest/abuse/etc]-shipping’. obviously a ‘proshipper’ may be a ‘proshipper’ specifically because theyre also a map/pedophile but there are also loads of ‘proship’ people who use the term because they just dont care about shipping discourse, or because they have ‘abusive’ ships that arent pedophilic, or like. even if theyre lolicons. there literally still is such a serious gap between fictional content and real life actions. 

that doesn’t mean that fictional content and the communities built around it can’t ALSO be bad but theyre not interchangeable concepts. even loads of people who would smugly call themselves proship lolicons on their nsfw twitter or whatever are extremely uncomfortable with map/nomaps because the entire premise of MAP as a term is to defang and seek community about actual irl attraction to real life kids. a person who is like “having huge discourse fights about anime ships between people who are 15/18 or 17/20 is ridiculous to me so i guess i’m a proshipper because it’s the opposite of these ‘anti’ people who are starting those fights” is not a fucking map and proship is literally not secret code for map... it’s a term for fucking shipping discourse... 

i’m not saying it’s wrong to be concerned about things that go on in fandom but dear god a lot of you have completely lost sight of the difference in seriousness between these things. please remember that “this problematic age difference ship could potentially create a community where potentially some abusers could use it as one avenue out of potentially many for grooming/exploiting teenagers” is inherently a less acutely dangerous situation than “literal actual self-professed pedophiles trying to garner sympathy from young people by rebranding their open attraction to irl children.” literally the scary thing about maps is theyre just comfortably acknowledging irl pedophilia as part of their identity. you cannot convince me that proshippers on the other hand, as a community mostly made of people at this point being like “this fictional taboo porn i’m making on a locked account among other adults is not this huge deal thing you need to be spending all your time digging up for the sake of callouts” (whether you agree with them about that or not), are exactly as horrifying as that and that the terms are interchangeable.

(not to mention that if you go around making shrill posts asserting things that literally arent true then youre just. hurting your own cause because people will just be like ‘see, antis overreacting again and making false equivalencies :\ clearly Nothing they say can ever be true’ and people who lie somewhere in the middle will be like ‘yeah, seems so’ and discard the post. like that’s just... common sense... don’t say shit that isn’t true just because it Feels true by some hasty application of transitive property.)

#csa /

[genderfluidlucifer]

Response to being asked to give  an opinion on Connie’s calout by residentevil-4

(Tw: CSAM, rape fic, incest fic, predatory behavior, racism, ableism, kink mention, nsfw mentions. Minors should probably dni.)

“Connie and I know each other irl and went to school together for 3 years, although they now live in a different state and have cut contact with me. We went to a private therapy school in Manhattan as we're both disabled and were deemed unable to attend public school. Even though we were pretty close, Connie didn't like having photos taken of them, so I don't have any selfies of the two of us; however, these are from our sophomore and senior yearbooks which at least confirms that we were in the same year at school. People who have seen Connie's selfies should be able to confirm that that is what they look like. First and foremost, Connie is not TMA. They are intersex and the two of us have discussed intersex issues both in person and online, but they are still decidedly CAFAB.” Ok so first off, I want to address this part of the callout. To be honest...was it really necessary to literally doxx Connie ehre? Because this textbook definition of doxxing. Yes Connie’s done some shitty things but I freally don’t think that what they’ve done warrants this level of doxxing. Or...even better, any doxxing. This feels like a really unnecessary breach of privacy, revealing sensitive information on Connie’s childhood that they choose to confide in you with. I really don’t agree with this aspect of the callout as it feels very invasive and bordering on stalkerish.  Btw when I say bordering on stalkerish I’m not directly calling you a stalker Bonnie. Just so we’re clear. I am not defending Connie supposedly faking being TMA. Because faking being TMA is a very serious issue. HOWEVER since I don’t know Connie irl and to be quite frank it’s none of my business what the nature of their agab is. Were not close and I’m certainly not going to like lead Connie onto thinking we’re friends just to confirm this with them because that would be creepy. So to be honest I’m going to take this part of the callout with again of salt for now.

[ID: A cropped screenshot of a numbered list Connie posted to their blog hadrosaurs in response to an ask. 

“3. I’m TMA And that’s completely irrelevant. I’m not accusing them because of their gender I didn’t even know their gender when they said that to me saying that they said that because they fucking said that and the reaction to it was incredibly alarming. Don’t fucking say that stuff to people.]

I mean I”m not a trans woman so take this with a grain of salt if you want but...I don’t see how this is really proof of Connie being deliberately transmisogynistic? Yes Connie gives iffy retellings of mistakes they’ve made in the past. I’ve seen that on their blog before and I won’t pretend it doesn’t happen. BUT here they sound genuine enough and to be honest a growing issue I’ve seen with callouts as of late is. A person confirms they in fact did not do the thing they were called out for. And then the people who make the callout choose to see it as proof of incriminating behavior anyways. To be honest it’s a big problem and it’s also incredibly unfair to the person being called out. If you’re so determined at that point to see the person as bigoted no matter what they say then of course anything they say can be seen as proof. So I’m going to have to pass on this bit of evidence. “Connie responded: “Final note: I have spoken extensively with several trans women about using TMA to describe myself. I will not be getting into discourse about that on this blog again. All that leads to is people demanding my medical records and calling me slurs. If you wanna have a thoughtful conversation about it direct message me cause it’s not happening again here.” Again this really doesn’t seem all that self incriminating. Connie mentions here that they’ve talked to rl trans woman about whether or not they can be considered TMA. Connie really doesn’t have to disclose that personal information to people for any reason. Yes even when people are e including this ask response in a callout. And considering lots of people DO get invasive about Connie’s medical history ans general personal life over matters like this? I feel their reaction is pretty understandable here. “Connie has constantly compared “exclusionists” (or anyone, really) to TERFs, even when the people in question are not transmisogynistic, trans exclusionary radfems, or are even transmisogyny affected themselves.

“ Gonna have to disagree with this part of the callout too. Lots of ace inclus blogs, even some run by trans women , have proven that the ace exclus movement was started by swerfs/terfs. But the blog that has the most evidence for this is courteousmingler on tumblr. I suggest you check out that blog’s archiving of the history of ace exclus rhetoric before rushing to call me a transmisogynist for disagreeing with this part of the callout. I looked through all of the evidence for Connie being racist and tbh as a black ndn it all feels incredibly flimsy. It’d be one thing if Connie was using their experiences to derail and invalidate the discussions about how black people are oppressed But they weren’t doing that there at all. This part of the post feels incredibly biased. And like OP is looking for things to be mad about. Going to have to pass on this list of evidence. Also uh I seem to recall that residentevil04 got called out for some questionable behavior as well. “Both me (insepsy, hi) and ezrat have had really weird spikes in activity on our Statcounters, both on the same day. (Saturday, 4/17/21) For both of us, majority of the pages looked at by these visitors have been related to or about Connie, or have been posts that Connie would find "problematic" such as the f slur untagged or something related to "panphobia"/aphobia. I’m sorry but...none of the proof of cyberstalking holds any water. Visiting someone’s blogs and rbing posts to disagree with them is not cyberstalking. Keeping tabs on urls that an abusive person who has harassed are using so you can block them (in this case with kyoshi) and warn your mutuals is not stalking. As a victim of rl stalking it’s...really weird to call this legit stalking at all. Much less claim that you have damning proof of it being stalking when no such evidence exists in the callout. Besides after Connie and nonbinarydave called out one of kyoshi’s buddies for sending a death threat hate anon to nonbinarydave’s toddler st4lker partly admitted to doing it a few times. Then other mutuals in kyoshi’s toxic social circle clearly began joining in. Making side accounts where they tried to spin a false narrative of nonbinarydave’s daughter being one of their alters (ableist as hell.) And also trying to do it in such a way that they thought would trigger nonibnarydave’s psychosis (also ableist as hell.) If you’re going to drag Connie for their mistakes and never let them move on from those mistakes then it’s only fair to do that to people you agree with who also do toxic/bigoted things. ALso the fact that your wording here suggests that you think panphobia and aphobia aren’t real makes me doubt this claim even more. Exclus and their allies are notorious for mislabeling inclus disagreeing with them as stalking. “connie said that they would release that info at a later time and the minor began to argue with them that they had a responsibility regardless of their complicated relationship with age. in this argument connie for a time kept their age ambiguous and at one point told the minor (who confirmed in a later ask that they were severely traumatized by adults) that they obviously weren’t traumatized. connie quickly deleted this ask and any mentions of it and the next post they reblogged was about how wrong it was to try and quantify or discount others’ trauma. on my old blog i @ed them in the replies and asked if they had just done that. connie admitted to it and said it was fucked up but quickly blocked + deleted my comment. i can’t remember whether or not connie apologized to the minor, they may have? but yeah. i thought that was pretty weird.”] I do agree with some of the concern here that adults shouldn’t over expose minors in discourse. I’ve been contemplating this for awhile myself. And trying to figure out how to take better steps to avoid including minors who are triggered by discourse in discourse, especially. HOWEVER I have one little issue with this addition to the callout. If that is the case then exclus and their allies need to practice this as well. You cannot ignore the fact that the reason a lot of minors are getting involved in exclus discourse is due to adult exclus and their allies forcing minors to pick a side in the discourse. Y’all are not at all exempt from this problem. I still remember an ex mutual of mine trying to convince a minor to agree that aces can’t face corrective rape. And based on how aggressive it got with me when I tried to avoid giving an opinion on the matter, I can’t imagine that it would’ve reacted better to the minor refusing to give an opinion or to the minor outright disagreed. Refusing to put these standards on exclus and their allies is both hypocritical and quite frankly very transparent. The claims about them glorifying dark topics on AO3 through their fics also seems unfortunately legit. I mean those asks of shaming people who ask their viewers to not romanticize or glorify abusive relationships in their works is very damning. I’m very disappointed to see that Connie has taken being an inclus to the point of validating antis anti culture wholeheartedly. I can’t think of much more to add to my opinion on that part of the callout. As for the issue of Connie interacting with pro shippers in the past, I do know that this claim is legit. I’ve seen it before and so has Breeze. This was why for a brief time we decided to stop following their blogs. Because it was triggering to have pro shippers put on our dash. And sometimes we just don’t feel it’s worth it to always let people we’re platforming know they’re rbing triggering stuff. So sometimes we just quietly unfollow and choose to not interact until we’re sure they’re filtering what they do and don’t rb in some way. I definitely don’t agree with that behavior. And if they’re still doing that I”ll deplatform again. “The anon asks: “A weird question but do you know any other stimboard blogs with your follow criteria? (No radfems, racists, fandom antis, etc.) I was hoping to find more through your “similar blogs” but a lot have no anti-antis for their DNI or allow truscum/transmeds and exclus. :(“

The user responds: “I know of @turtle-pond-stims, @outofangband, and @kinaesthetics! 🍂🍄" “[ID: A cropped screenshot of an ask sent by Connie from their now-deactivated blog, butch-with-a-tortoise.

Connie says: “hey anon I have safe stim blogs. dm me if you want them. And radfems/bigots aren’t allowed to interact. For my own safety (because the community is honestly terrifying) I can’t publicly say on my blogs that I’m safe for proshippers/kinky people but I try to spread word how I can.”] [ID: Screenshot of a post by evilwriter37, which reads, “I’ve been seeing posts about fandom police leaving ao3, and it’s like: Good. We don’t want you here anyway. Go find your own fanfiction site.”

The post is tagged “#Fandom #AO3 #Antis #Purity Culture” and has 87 notes. It was posted on December 21st, 2020.

There is a reply from main-to-outofangband-andothers saying: “there are Silm antis on that site who are against Russigon (Maedhros and Fingon) not because they’re cousins but because they’re both male (coded)”] [ID: A screenshot of an anonymous (though signed off as being from outofangband) ask sent to evilwriter37, which says, “Melkor and Viggo solidarity is ‘Look there’s nothing wrong with keeping my enemy chained up in my personal chambers at all times so please just focus on the war efforts and I’ll focus on the boy* in my chambers’ -@outofbangand.

*boy used figuratively @ antis”

The user responds: “Pfft!!! Hahaha! You’re absolutely right! (And Viggo does refer to Hiccup in canon as ‘my boy’).”] I can’t really say anything to refute this. Because these are all posts of Connie outright stating that they disagree with antis. And not only sympathize with anti antis but are fully against antis. Looks like very damning evidence. Although ngl I’m not entirely against kinky blogs as a whole? Just so long as they truly stay in their lane with their kink content. And don’t force it on others in any way. Or shame people who are triggered by their kinks. It is true that being entirely against kinky blogs no matter what is dipping your toes into swerf rhetoric. Tbh I’m not going to look at the rest. This is pretty much all I need to make a decision on whether or not I”ll continue platforming Connie. Though I will try to get some more  perspective from people who I interact with as well. Because I feel better about making a more definitive decision after doing that. Also in general please don’t not try to get an opinion from me on how I feel about syscourse. A lot of the claims about Connie’s age weirdness and them using their alters as a shield feel like syscourse to me. Especially if this callout was written by one or several singlets. Singlets should never be trying to judge how legit someone’s system is ever. Even if their system friends encourage them to. You can call out a horrible person with a system without trying to insinuate that they’re lying about their alters in some way. Doing otherwise is ableist ESPECIALLY if you’re a singlet. Also in general the reason I stay out of discussions of judging how someone is handling their systems is because it’s syscourse and syscourse is triggering for my system and I. If this post was an attempt to get me to give an opinion  on the validity of Connie’s system I don’t appreciate it. And I would appreciate not being dragged into such matters again, thank you.

In general there’s like a few parts of this callout that feel legit. Which is unfortunately cluttered with obvious bias and obsessive hatred of Connie. I’m not here to stan or coddle Connie. I know they are not a perfect person. Especially since no human being in the world is perfect. But I feel the way this callout was created was very sloppy since a lot of the evidence was messy at best. And some points were very hypocritical as well as there being some no true scotsman moments from OP. In acting like exclus never do any of the thing that they tried to call out Connie for. Which is behavior that I am not a fan of. This is why people need to be more careful about callouts and like make roughdrafts and have a more unbiased person helping them if they don’t feel they can do it on their own. I’m even trying to make a resolve to do better at that myself. So it’s not like I’m unwilling to put my money where my mouth is. Anyways those are all my thoughts on this messy callout. And tbh I’m not going to get too much more heavily involved in this. Because I need to focus on more immediately serious rl stuff more often, like doing what I can to get out of the hellish landscape of a house I currently am stuck in.

[rpbetter]

Those callout blogs are a nuisance. All of those screen shots were taken out of context and all the "harassment" is just people talking about that person on their own blogs, after blocking them AND being blocked, and still being stalked and having the finger pointed at them by that person who is calling it harassment, despite circumventing blocks which is totally in their own power not to do. Why keep hate reading people after a two-way block? Then suicide bait and say those blogs made them get that far? I wouldn't be surprised if the callout blogs were run by the same person or someone close to them. Long story short- you are awesome, you did nothing wrong, and thank you for doing what you do. There is a reason these callouts have almost no notes on them, it is because people know what's up. I think that's a silver lining!

Yeah, Anon, that is...all very much what my take on this is. Some of us have been around, we know what this looks like, and there's been plenty of evidence I've found of harassment from the callout crew. If those few screenshots in my callout (achievement unlocked!) are "harassment" oh...oh, honey. No, taking issue with your behavior in a firm way isn't harassment, neither is multiple people trying to patiently, kindly help you out of your own damn mess. All that got myself and at least one other mun I saw doing so was posted up on the callout blog, so...from where is this harassment coming, exactly? lol amazing. Cognitive dissonance, on sale all week!

I will absolutely say, like I did on their childish ass reblogs, I'm very much not supportive of anon hate and other such behaviors. I do think some of those messages could have been worded better, but did they have to be? No. You post something inflammatory, you don't just expect to get ass pats of support for your bad behavior. They all use incredibly baiting, hostile language that is a problem when the OP of the rules does it, but their posts meant to be publicly consumed aren't supposed to trigger unwanted reactions. I don't feel, as someone on the spectrum, which is exactly why I tried to speak to Raven, I'm expecting anything extraordinary out of another working adult to know that this is pretty basic behavior. You act hatefully, people tend to react hatefully, you don't fix it by crying and being more hateful.

- AGAIN am in no way supporting anything legitimately unnecessary that was sent to Raven. I don't believe there is an excuse for that, outside of maybe...if she posted crush videos or something, then, yes, by all means, go anon hate away on people hurting real animals or children or the elderly lol but here? In the RPC? No, no, no. Never okay. I'm just saying, sometimes, we do get what we put out. We should be mindful of what we're selling if we don't want those goods returned to us. Like the OP of those rules said, "Look, I'm hateful, I was being intentionally hateful, it's fine." You know? -

No one else on tumblr is ND and might have some issues being too reactionary, no one can come across that shit independently of any of these muns they seem to want to sell as being some kind of evil RP clique and feel personally offended. Nope! Just their friend! Only one with permission.

And yeah, I definitely suspect that, at best, it's a handful of muns with too similar personal problems acting out justice and power they cannot achieve offline. Life is hard, being a young adult is hard, you are hyper-aware of being unable to immediately effect lasting change in your world, and it's kind of an unfortunate hallmark of the internet anymore that you see this being taken out in things like the RPC. It's still not necessary or acceptable, but maybe by explaining it, someone out there can recognize those feelings in themselves and not act on it. Point is, it's really common. Not the first time I've seen it on tumblr, would not be at all shocked.

I do not even know what to say about the potential suicide-baiting, an opinion you're absolutely entitled to. Since I did not see this transpire in action and do not know that meme mun, I don't feel like it's appropriate for me on this blog to imply they weren't serious. I don't want anyone out there to feel like their own statements aren't serious, you know? I will say, given forever of past observances, it is a bit convenient to the victimization she was peddling. Doesn't mean it couldn't be both...and I would really like to say, as a reminder to everyone: if you see a blog mentioning self-harm of any kind, whether you have a reason to believe they are being dramatic or not, report them. If they weren't serious, that's a really terrible thing they just did in using something like that. If they were serious, even someone you can't stand deserves this kind of help.

But yeah, anyways! I'm certain I'll continue to be vaguely bothered in reblogs and get some amazing anons for it lol so thank you! It's appreciated! As are all of the other messages, publicly or privately addressed. They mean a lot, as they always have! Because it means a lot to provide you all with the genuine positivity of being seen, to get to address ways of helping the community, and speak to all of you!

My whole point in this blog was to support the RPC being a better place for everyone by tackling the issues that made me a bit salty, in the many ways that we can do that together, but the interactions here have made me feel so much more hope about the RPC! Most of you really aren't about callouts or harassment, or even things like leaning on aesthetics at cost to accessibility. Most of you just want to be allowed to enjoy the hobby your own way, need to be seen every now and then. Some of you might need some new ideas, or to feel excited about writing again, and getting to watch that happening is great.

You're all awesome, thank you, so much!

And since this drama is the main topic of this blog right now lol...reminder to everyone: if you're going through a hard time and someone in the RPC is making it hard for you to enjoy your escapism? That's on them. Not you. If you did do anything you feel is wrong, apologize to the person you hurt, accept their response either way, and grow as a person. Block the bad anons, block the callout blogs, stay off blogs that are drama sources, and enjoy what you're here to do, RP.

And hey, if you feel like you need to vent or could use some advice, I'm not going to judge you. The words "freaky shit" will never leave my mouth. If you need a pickmeup, need to feel like you're not the only one who feels this way, search the #anonymous or #answered tag. You're definitely not alone, and chances are, I support you if you're trying your best - which looks different for all of us.

#vespertine #answered #anonymous #drama cw #suicide mention

[randomuser678]

Some character thoughts

Owen sorta gets the most from just being on the screen a lot, he has the same Bob thing going on, he is deeply interested on his job, is kind of a wet blanket, but he comes off as more expressive than Bob, he is quirkier and feels less like the Straight man of the family than Bob. And speaking of which I hope they hint at him being bisexual, if the line “I need your moves tonight” he said at Garry wasn’t already. He doesn’t have a life goal as much as he has a status quo to maintain, contrast his wife, who has a goal. I also like how he’s loosening up on a good way! Him chilling with Garry for once is a nice reward for his openess and I rly like it!

Paige is pretty not there for most of the episodes, we know she values her family, she has a lot in common with Linda, but sorta more grounded. Less likely to sing in professional situations, and I mean she does have an office job. So far there’s not a lot from her, which is a shame, I can see them having some difficulty separating her from Linda, since they hit the same bits. This is something about the characters in general, the show kinda expects you to “get” them too quickly, since they all have their well defined archetypes. 

Molly is really sweet, Her defining song is really good, and I love how supportive she is of her brother, and she’s not really introverted as much as she is awkward and doesn’t know how to interact, like, being introverted and shy like myself, I could never see myself distracting a door man by being really loud on the street, which I guess shows how much she cares about her bro. I also love her comic book segments, even tho I can’t really imagine it as an actual comic book, still they are delightful honestly.

There’s also something to be said about this anxious biracial girl, dreaming about being a super hero whose main power lies in her curly hair. Something good, y’know. Still would be nice if her voice actress wasn’t white.

Speaking of which I think this is the first animated mixed family? Don’t quote me on that, but if so that’s really neat. And it has all these voice actors of color too.

Owen like his mother doesn’t get a lot beyond their goal/interest, he is another one you’re expected to get from their basic archetype, he doesn’t have a lot before getting into his antics, he never comes off as silly before they have a joke where he’s supposed to be silly, if that makes sense. 

Anyways, he is really sweet and maybe my favorite singing voice! They really take advantage of it whenever they can, he sings with other people a lot, and the way he sings Dog, is so so good.

I just really wanted to talk about these four, other thoughts:

Helen may be my favorite, her bit on “Own it”, her dry and serious expression that balances out with Bitsy are real fun.

Bitsy is okay. I get that on her song she points out how she’s not respected and there’s the line “Must I grow a penis” which first of all is Hm, and second of all, what she most likely means is that her field is dominated by cis men, but there are plenty of women on the meeting room? I’m not trying to say that because that particular room is the exception that means she wouldn’t be oppressed otherwise, but her song is about sympathizing with a rich white woman, and sympathy is what rich white people irl sorta take for granted, and the way she treats the other protagonists of color doesn’t leave my mind as she sings about her rich elite life. That said, I’m not trying to write a callout post for this particular character. She is an antagonist and I’m just nitpicking something I didn’t like. And it’s not like her struggles and shitty household should be ignored as part of her character and a reason for why she is like that. I kinda believe we’ll meet her brother, to make her more likable, and maybe he’ll take her antagonist role. Anyways

Birdie is alright, I’m more interested on his role as the Narrator than on his character, and his voice is good, I like how he has a passive role of the peace-maker, the friend you talk to, all that fun stuff, it’s really sweet.

Anyways Watch Central Park.

#central park #central park cartoon

[terfslying]

How TERFs treat people who have complaints / problems with the community

LesbiFairHere has recently made a public post about leaving radical feminism, discussing the reasons that she feels that her being young and vulnerable was part of why she joined radical feminism. You can read her post here if you’re interested. She contacted me when she was getting hateful responses, which seem to be continuing for the minute, and I wanted to do a post on the general situation.

As background, I just want to establish that LFH actually (as far as I can tell) was genuinely a TERF, despite some comments / reblogs trying to say that her blog is new and she was never a TERF. In fact, I found she posted in Dec last year that she was having problems with the radfem community, so she’d been having doubts for some time.

tl;dr - LFH’s blog shows months of TERF activity on the archives page. Other radfems also acknowledged she’s been around for a while.

Posts from LFH herself, just to give some examples of her previous interactions with the radfem community on tumblr:

Dec 2018: Was the OP for anti-Yaniv posts

Dec 2018: Reblogged user boxes like “This user is homosexual, not kweer” and “This user is a real girl”

Jan 2019: Reblogged ‘Drop the T’ post

Jan 2019: Reblogged ‘Master Post on what TIMs and TRAs say’

Feb 2019: Reblogs stuff likening SRS to genital mutilation and misgendering

A radfem discourser in response to a callout commented on the original post:

“I will say I find it odd that this info is out there about their behaviour but also that I remember her being a radfem for quite some time now? Maybe like a year or two around when anti-map discourse was a hot trend on here” - EdibleMeteor, here (edit: not a radfem that was my bad)

Option #1: Deny that they ever were a radfem in the first place or that they know anything about radfems

“You’re not leaving the ~*radfem community*~ because you were clearly never a part of it. You don’t even have a basic understanding of gender critical feminism, let alone have anything accurate or of value to say about it“ - tamaramaclaywasaterf, this post

“You are the shit that needs to go [...] she’s no lesbian & what she wants to change is being honest that she is a bihet. But she’s just yr sideblog sock puppet anyways fuck off forever” - td-rudefem4life, here

“Maybe come up with some actual critiques of radical feminism instead of pulling made up BS from your ass” - manic-pixie-dream-goblin, here

“everything you’ve spoken about in this post is blatantly untrue, and the fact that you posted any of this at all means that you didn’t read a word of what anyone said while you were with us. in fact, most of this is just flat-out projection. i’m sorry for you, and i hope someday you’ll really learn and understand radical feminism.” - a user whose name I will never be able to spell, here

Option #2: Just tell them that they’re an awful person and that they should die / get fucked / call them slurs, etc.

“You were obviously just trans all along simply pretending to be a radfem so you could make this little post. Let me tell you something - actual radical feminists would NEVER switch positions [...] and no feminist could ever be conservative. You are more conservative than any feminist woman, you vile piece of shit. Anyway, rot in hell, homophobe.” - Xxposinglesbophobes, here (note that LFH didn’t say she was a conservative)

“Please go get fucked by your trannydick cuck boys. I’m glad I’m [n]ot a worthless sack of shit :)” - Helladea, here

Option #3: Assume the blog (and any attention it might get) are made by your Enemies (TM) (bigots, trans people, men, libfems, mras, etc.)

“Typical lying snakes using straight up projecting to pain radfems as boogeyman made of straw” - in Happibeans’ callout post here, claiming that LFH is racist/violent in radfem chats. She states that the chats are the reason LFH chose to leave radical feminism. Which is kind of interesting since LFH left posted about having doubts over 5 months ago.

“This account is 100% a troll that pretended to be a lesbian 3 days ago and now is a traumatised bihet that wants dick” - td-rudefem4life, here

“tbh a lot of the most vehement, aggressive, unhinged “radfems” active in the community scream ~infiltrator~ to me. if more of them are exposed or expose themselves as libfems or mras posing as Crazy TERFS!! ™ itd be no big surprise either.”  - scenewannabe, here

“I’m beginning to think that OP was an infiltrator/troll to begin with” - Sundazesun, here

What does this show?

Ultimately, I do not know if LFH really did make racist comments or have other problems in the radfem community.

What I DO know, though, is that people have been falsely claiming she is a trans women, that she is bisexual, that her blog is new, that she said she wants dick, and that she never understood radical feminism in the first place, 100% based on her criticisms in the post about how she felt ‘lured into’ radical feminism in a vulnerable time in her life. And, possibly if the accusations are misleading/untrue, they could be just straight-up slandering her.

EVERY person in a community, no matter how noble their goal is supposed to be, should take very seriously complaints people have of being hurt by that community. If you don’t, and that person’s complaint IS real, then you’ve doubly victimised them and created a situation where someone else in the same vulnerable situation may be hurt after them. That goes for trans-inclusive people too (especially ya’ll who send anon hate, for srs).

#tag for sources #exterf #tw slurs #tw radfem #LesbiFairHere

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A (sizeable) rant/essay concerning my experiences in the Tumblr JJBA fandom.

None of you asked to hear this, but I’m getting pretty pissed off at some people in particular (I will not name names, though I may heavily implicate some people) and it’s finally started to kinda spill over. So I’m letting it spill; take it or leave it.

I’m... Fairly irate at the moment, and writing out my feelings does tend to help me calm down in situations like this, so if I was going to put this anywhere the best place for it is probably on the public internet. Again, take it or leave it: this is the internet, you don’t have to interact with me if this concerns you or your ideals. Just click that handy little block button on my profile and you never have to see little Nat mouthing off again.

If you want me to summarise (I know not everyone wants/is able to read a fluffed-up pillar of text) or explain my reasoning behind anything I’ve said below the cut, feel free to direct message me here or on Discord @nati bati yi#1462. Once I get this off my chest I’ll be more than willing to chat to people about it. <3

(Before I say anything else, this is not intended to be a callout in any way, shape or form. I don’t mention the specific names of anybody, and the actions I do mention here will only point to specific people if you know them too. Anyone on the outside should have zero idea of who anyone I bring up is; I do not want anyone to get harassed over this, and I very much do not want to start drama - that’s what inspired me to go off and write this hunk of garbage in the first place. I’m just... Sick to death of the fandom as a whole.)

Anyway. Here we go.

From what I’ve been able to tell, being in this fandom for just under a year now, there are two main halves to it: the gay-hating, stale-meme-parroting dudebro side, who seem to mostly congregate around YouTube and Reddit, and... Whatever the side based on Tumblr (and probably now Twitter) is. I don’t spend a lot of time on Reddit, so naturally I’ve been more exposed to the Tumblr side of the fandom, and after experiencing the ideals some people here want to force on other people I’ve come to the conclusion I’d almost rather be immersed in the bigoted dudebro side. And I say this as an ace-spec/gay trans man.

I’ll start with the blocklist.

I think most of us on Tumblr came to the conclusion that the blocklist was utter bullshit, but I did see a few people in a Discord server I have since left (I will expand on this later) defending the reasoning behind some ships being on there, citing the fact they had been abused in a relationship with a similar age gap. I can definitely see why that would bother a person, and I do not want to erase the fact that people have been and will be abused in similar relationships, but you can’t project your singular experience onto every fictional, non-canon character relationship and every person who ships it. For one, not every relationship is going to turn out the same just because it meets this one criteria of “the age gap is too big”, and, also, you don’t have to write fiction to totally reflect reality. You are in full creative control. Maybe if the characters were real people they wouldn’t click, but if you’re drawing a picture or writing a fanfic you don’t have to go along with that. You can write them so that they’re good to each other, while still keeping it in character. Araki has said that Jotaro and Kakyoin’s personalities don’t work together very well, and that they wouldn’t have become friends or even spoken to each other if Jotaro wasn’t a Stand user... But Jotaro/Kakyoin just happens to be the most-written about JJBA ship on AO3. Me? I love Jotakak. It’s about the only thing I do ship. And I’ve read some quite frankly amazing fanfiction where the two boys are paired and they work together, and it’s still very much in character. Of course, I’m very much against loli/shota content or content depicting characters who don’t look very old- if someone drew Koichi in a sexual situation I would be pissed as all hell, but I don’t have to engage with that content any further. I can just filter out the tag/block the OP and move on. You don’t need to make a fuss and tell/imply to people that they are paedophilic for enjoying well-written content where a 17-year-old is in a healthy relationship with a 22-year-old, platonic or otherwise.

My second point brings in some of the things I’ve learned while studying media this past year. My main point here: not everyone in an audience is the same. There is a reason differential decoding and the uses and gratifications theory exist. The uses and gratifications theory states, at its most basic, that the audience of a media text is active, not passive; i.e. they are not just absorbing every piece of data thrown at them by the text they are consuming, and they are consuming different media to satisfy a need- for JJBA, that need could be entertainment, escapism, identifying with a character similar to yourself or to give you something to talk about with your friends. Differential decoding arises when someone consuming a piece of the media does not entirely go along with the creator’s preferred reading of it- an example might be how a sizeable amount of people enjoy villainous or “disgusting” characters such as Dio, Cioccolata, Stroheim or Melone, when they were clearly written in canon to be abhorrent, unlikable people for varying reasons. I can also say that, because the audience is active, and consume media based on their personal needs, that somebody writing fanfic of a ship you don’t like isn’t going to make incest or paedophilia more socially acceptable. I don’t consume that content, because I don’t feel the need to. Sure, real paedos might, but they’re a minority. Just because a couple hundred people or so read a fanfic on the free web where a grown adult does the dirty with a little kid, doesn’t mean to say everyone in the world will suddenly start thinking it’s ok. Mention it to any sane person in real life and they will not like that idea any more than you do.

And my third point is more a personal thing than anything else, but there is a community I used to be part of (and was part of almost from the beginning) where I didn’t feel welcome because of people causing drama over things like what I mentioned above. I started multiple discourses entirely by accident by saying I didn’t understand why everyone though X ship was horribly problematic and worth getting mad at people over. I still don’t feel like anyone deserves to be harassed over characters and ships they enjoy, but that doesn’t mean to say I support all of it. Along with generally feeling ignored by a lot of the moderators of that server, as well as their friends, I was just sick to death of how they seemed to single out some certain people to say, “hey, don’t do this” when other people seemed exempt. I was verbally warned for posting innuendos in a general chat (but it’s not like I could anywhere else on the server, because I’m not 18 yet), but at least once every day I would see two people flirting in-character in whatever channel they happened to meet in, and it never seemed to be in a roleplay channel- I couldn’t see into NSFW to check if they did it there too, but the fact it would leak out into gen concerned me. They would throw innuendo after innuendo at each other, and they never seemed to stop, or be told to stop. Yes, I could have messaged the moderators to say it made me uncomfy, but one of them was a moderator themselves, so I felt a little out my element doing so. 

Another thing that bothered me is when I tried to join an offshoot of that server for kin, and the admin - I assume - of said offshoot server messaged me (with some other conversation concerning it in between) that, despite the fact I only wanted in to help me figure out what it meant to me, I wasn’t allowed in because somebody was uncomfy with doubles. I completely understand that, but I had spoken to the only person it could have been (I wasn’t given a name, but it wasn’t difficult to figure out who it was) multiple times about that character and how similar we were- hell, we had even roleplayed together as doubles of that character and no problems were ever expressed to me. If anything it seemed like we left off in a spot we could have carried on from later. It might not have been intended that way, but being told I wasn’t allowed in there made me feel excluded from the community nonetheless, especially because I’d had a few people tell me the night before that they wanted more people in there and that I’d be totally welcome. I was also told, before any of this happened, that the same person blocked a friend of mine in another server for going on a small rant about how they didn’t like the way Josuke acted in the episode where he plays dice with Rohan and ends up burning his house down, because they kin Josuke..? At least, that’s what was relayed to me.

But, hey ho, it’s all behind me now. I won’t lie; I don’t really plan on ever going back. I don’t want to engage anymore, because it makes me uncomfortable and anxious thinking about it, so I most likely will unfollow most (if not all) of the blogs pertaining to that community tonight. I do have a few people still there who I miss speaking to, but I’ve DM’d all of them on Discord at least once since I’ve left and talked to them about either how I miss them or something entirely unrelated to the server. I’d like to talk more with them, but DMs are always awkward for me to begin with... I have a feeling they might not want to talk after reading this, and I think I’m ready to accept that? Might be difficult not being able to scream about fanfic as much, but I won’t impose on anyone if my presence makes them uncomfy. I don’t want to be that guy.

I’ll say it again: now that I’ve got this off my chest and subsequently calmed down a lot, I’m more than willing to talk about any of it. Just shoot me a message on Discord and I’ll reply when I’m able and feeling up to talking about it again. For now I’m probably just going to go back to pissing about on Flight Rising or play Smash or something

#melon sounds #jjba #this doesn't mean i won't be consuming or creating fanon content anymore #you can pry kakyoin content from my cold dead hands #i just don't want to engage with the fandom as a community anymore. #which is hell because i want to roleplay #but i guess i could just do one-on-one/kceb for now #ilu kceb. you're all the best #but uhhh hit me up if you want to 1x1... i only feel fully comfy playing kakyoin at the moment but i love AUs and canon divergence #if we get close enough i could try my hand at playing someone else #and yeah. i'm not angry anymore #writing this has calmed me down immensely. jj&c bois will know how ready to fight someone i was #anyway. goodbye for now. #it's viddy gaem time

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rant real quick

okay for real tho that ask got me thinking about all the cases like this on here where ‘op’ turns out to be abusive or a sex offender. I think y’all are really throwing these terms around very lightly. Unhealthy relationships are very real, and the psychological effect they can have in people are also very real, but there is a serious difference between ‘repeat sex offender who has ruined lives and shows no remorse or signs of stopping, hence is a danger to others and should be warned against’ and ‘i had a gaslighting boyfriend when i was 16 and i also didn’t know how to communicate anything i felt, it got unhealthy and we had a sexual experience that in hindsight was not good at all and i need to work through’  Like yes, the latter is a bad thing, and yes it should be talked about. But it should be talked about so the people involved can heal from it. Believe it or not healthy communication and healthy relationships don’t drop from the sky along with the right person these are things you need to work on, as well as finding healthy ways to heal from when you Didn’t experience healthy things. And dragging other people across an online platform who have nothing to do with any of those involved in your mess and guilting them into reading all your fuckin screenshots and private conversations is NOT healthy. Learn to talk about these things to the people you trust, learn to heal.

And i shouldn’t even have to fucking say this but a lot of yall don’t seem to have a single gram of common sense left in your heads and need things spelled out so OF COURSE if someone committed serious, premeditated crimes with the intention of harming a person and still seems to be on that path, others need to be warned and a call out is appropriate. YES sexual abuse should be spoken about publicly, and im NOT saying victims should remain private and silent in order to protect their abusers.  im just saying yall don’t know how to fucking communicate most of the time and we arent all 100% in tune with our emotions usually and then an intimate act like sex can turn out terrible. that doesn’t make your ex an abuser and it definitely doesn’t mean you can go around telling people they need to google the fuckign callout archive to learn about how you once dissociated during sex and instead of working through it with a therapist you’re going around guilting people who have nothing to do with your private life because they dared not know what a screenname they never seen before on a fucking blogwebsite did when they were 17 years old. 

go outside. introspect. do yourself a favor and focus on healing yourself instead of harming others, we all hurt you son of a bitch but you choose how to act on it

#i dont usually make posts but goddam im fed up with this passive agressive 'op' this 'op' that #ill put it bluntly: your past unhealthy relationship has nothing to do with me #because i dont know you #and you probably live half across the pacific #and ive got a lot of other shit to do besides reading up on all of your private lives and private hurts just because i reblogged smth

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I have a question, because I trust your expert opinion on these matters.... What do you think of yugioh sevens?

sorry it took so long for me to answer you, anon! i was puzzling over how to answer this for a long time, because i really wanted to give my honest opinion but i had a Lot to say and not all of it positive. also i’m in the middle of moving out of my apartment with the husband and that’s really busy lol.

so. hm. okay. given that I’ve only seen the first episode so far (I watched it when it first came out and haven’t gotten the chance to see the other two), I can’t say my opinion will be super informed! however, I can give my initial first impressions based on what I saw from the first time I watched it! the impressions will be under the cut, but let’s just say that my opinions are. Mixed. again, my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt, because i’ve only seen episode one and I really expect the show to show it’s true colors by mid-season, but this is just a really quick first impression after mulling over my initial impressions for a few days. 

I think overall, my impressions of the first episode is that I can see the potential, but the execution is somewhat shoddy. It honestly doesn’t feel like the producers used the extra six months or so from ending VRAINS early to their best advantage here, but there’s an...effort? I can at least see why people are charmed by the show so far. I’ll break it down piece by piece to show what initial problems I had with it that prevented me from enjoying it fully. It’s still a very charming show, and I plan on giving it a chance, but I feel like the show itself is still finding its footing. And that’s to be expected, most ygo spinoffs are just Like That when they start, but it’s definitely one of the weaker starts to a series i’ve seen. I’ll break it down by its aspects to show what I both like and dislike about it!

Setting - Okay, so I��m actually rather charmed by the setting itself. It feels like it’s a direct callout to how the ygo meta has gotten in real life - there are a few decks that stand out over the rest and sometimes tournaments can come down to being between one type of deck and its counter. Yuga wanting to make his own type of dueling because he feels like the world around him is getting stale is incredibly charming, and the rules he’s come up with absolutely feel like something an elementary schooler would come up with (I used to make fun of pendulum summoning being the same type of thing, but this is just straight up reminding me of the days when pokemon trading cards were super popular and none of us little brats knew the rules so we made up our own as we went along). Yuga’s a little kid who dreams about giant dueling robots and wants dueling to have the mystery and fun and pizzaz it used to, and who doesn’t? I support this baby boy and his dueling robot dreams. 

The world around him is established to be pretty restrictive and somewhat eerie as well - the school is largely managed by robots that regulate things down to the smallest level (I don’t think there’s even any adults around, which ???), and even the smallest innovations Yuga does to help make life more efficient, like adding a carrier to his bike to carry his bookbag, are rejected as out of line. There’s actually a nice level of show and don’t tell here and there, like showing how the robots scan each student while greeting them happily at the door, or how duel disks are automatically shut down and locked during school hours. One particularly chilling moment is watching robots clamp down on students trying to trade cards informally in the schoolyard, calmly and cheerily informing them that such trading is prohibited and must be done in a sanctioned G-Corp trading location. What seals the deal is that the student’s don’t express annoyance and anger at this, merely accepting such a restrictive rule as a mildly inconvenient part of life - which shows how such an indoctrinative lifestyle has already affected their manner of thinking. I feel like the first episode would have benefited more from being stretched out into two episodes instead of trying to cram a duel inside the end of the first episode, because the crammed nature of it all meant these moments are very few and far between, lost in how quickly the episode rushes through these plot points.

Characters - Okay, overall the dynamics of our main cast look like they can be really cute. We have our rebellious protagonist that wants to shake up everything and have fun, our uptight class president that wants to enforce the rules but gets swept up in the chaos protag-kun brings, the rival character that thinks protag-kun could change the world around him and looks at him with respect and also might possibly be a chuuni dumbass, and the token female character who’s Totally Not Interested In This Dueling Thing, No Way, Really. But honestly, in the first episode a lot of this characterization is lost in...screaming, actually. They’re very. Loud. Particularly our president, who honestly looks like he’s got multiple facets to his character (he briefly expresses admiration for yuga’s modified bike and its convenience before immediately reverting to screaming about rules, eventually does come around to helping yuga out because he doesn’t want to get Insta-Banned for being near him, etc), but we lose so much of it because, again, he spends 95% of the time screaming. we also get a lot of forced humor and gonk-y reactions that seem kind of exaggerated, partially because said reactions tend to be Spelled Out for us as opposed to just letting us see it happen, but this is lack of how the characters are themselves and more about how they’re being handled so far. which i’ll explain more when i get to talking about storyboarding.

music - it’s...okay? the OP is growing on me and is actually pretty cute, but I’m not getting anything that stands out. the BGM hasn’t really had any pieces that really get my attention so far, but maybe we’ll see something better in the future? i don’t know

storyboarding - okay. I’m not going to be talking about the animation because i’m not harping on the style (although it does admittedly look woefully generic and not very YGO at all) given that they’ve moved to a completely different (and cheaper?) movie studio. i’m not going to talk about the shoddy cgi or the stilted animation or anything like that. i’m specifically talking about the storyboarding itself, how scenes are being framed and arranged, and how the main story is being told. and this key part is where SEVENS entirely falls apart. 

the problem is that the story is going by entirely too fast and is craming all sorts of things into its timeslot. the characters react loudly and obnoxiously to every little thing, with exaggerated pratfalls and gonkfaces as opposed to...actual reactions. it’s understandable from yuga and possibly even the high strung class president, but when even characters that are established to be a little more mellow minded (see, rook and romin) end up acting like that, it kind of contradicts what little we know about them. Not that it’s bad for them to act like that, but it has more impact if we see this after we have established characters for them (although if rook is actually established to be a chuuni dumbass later, i would immediately forgive them for that instance specifically, because that’s adorable). it honestly comes off as the animereaction equivalent of Johnny Test - all the exaggerated sound effects and janky reactions to compensate for the lack of animation or storytelling. it’s kind of upsetting to look at.

speaking of establishing character. It’s honestly done rather poorly for a first episode, which is a problem. I need to have a reason to be invested in these characters, and when you rush through their introductions it leaves me wanting. for example, my previously mentioned example of our class president clearly showing interest in yuga’s inventions but having it completely smothered in his need to appeal to authority and his high strung anxiety is a good point! but we get so little of it that it’s very much lost in his constant screaming and yelling - so seeing him portrayed as part of yuga’s friend group from day one is a bit jarring. another more telling example is rook immediately showing interest in yuga because this kid really keeps trying to modify his duel disk. okay cool. why. why should we care about this. we haven’t seen any instance of him before this, and when he’s introduced he talks about this Secret Hidden Backdoor Legend That’s Totally Prominent!!!! except we don’t see any hints in the series leading up to it, it literally comes out of nowhere. there’s no mystery or mystique in this, we haven’t seen rook try challenging this on his own, he’s just immediately dropping the wham ball of OH YEAH I ALREADY BANNED MYSELF, OOPS. speaking of: why is it bad that they get banned?? what happens? obviously you get locked out of your duel disk but then what? clearly, it should affect these kids’ standing in society somehow because the extreme control over said disks and card management means something, but we see rook attending school like nothing is wrong. nobody notices him, he’s not established as a troublemaker or a wanted figure by the nearby robots, he’s just...there. so there’s no emotional impact to seeing that yuga is one strike away from being banned, or that rook was already Banned (you’d think him getting banned at such a young age would cause Problems, but See it’s Fine, So). also yuga reminiscing about how he’d forgotten what he wanted to do with his new style of rush dueling and how he wanted to bring fun back into it falls really flat because, again, we can’t really see why it’s important for him to do this. him spelling it out for us suddenly when he’s close to losing a duel lacks the emotional impact because we haven’t seen how it affects him specifically. we can see little things - he’s already tried so many times, he keeps printing out little robot designs, he’s somewhat annoyed with being locked out of his disk during school or harranged for every little thing he does, but we haven’t had enough time to see why this is so important to him or why he does what he does. 

again, a large majority of these problems would be solved if they handled this the way zexal and vrains handled it - having most of the worldbuilding be in episode 1 and introducing the main duel mechanic in episode 2 with a full on duel that was started at the end of episode 1. maybe show some standard dueling as a contrast and use those show-not-tell instances from the setting to show how restrictive or repetitive it is (maybe yuga and co hanging out at one of those G-Corp Mandated Trading Stations after school and watching/playing some duels? yuga trying to show off rush dueling in there and getting kicked out?), then introduce rush dueling as a thing in episode 2 when he’s introduced to the Secret Backdoor Trial by Rook after seeing hints/rumors/etc about Mystery Programmer Man Who Did This For Some Reason. but rushing it through like this, especially when introducing a Whole New Dueling Format AND a new type of card, isn’t ideal. but trying to cram things together like this makes the weakness in storyboarding really stand out, and it taints an otherwise good story. not that the story in itself is bad, but it’s not presented particularly well.

it could be like how vrains clearly improved in storyboarding after episode 14 or so, after the initial rush was over with, so i’m willing to give sevens another chance on this. but this isn’t a very strong way to introduce us to the characters or the world they want to show us. 

overall: charming ideas, shoddy execution, will be looking to see if they improve on this. i’m willing to give it a chance, though, because yuga is a darling boy that deserves it. also the class president. i may not remember his name but i also stan him.

#sevens #is that the tag we're using #i don't know #ygo sevens #yugioh sevens #????? #i aint gonna lie every time i hear about ygo sevens i accidentally think about the sevens webnovel #it's got a very yugioh plot without the card games but it's mostly fantasy adventure harem adventures #decent read! but this isn't about the sevens webnovel it's about the yugioh sevens #so i'll shut up now #ask shenanigans

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A few last words about the whole yesterday shitstorm. This is long, but please, read until the end. This is quite serious, and I refuse to let it go so lightly.

First of all, I still believe that the situation could've been resolved peacefully way before it escalated this far. Like, maybe you thought that Dany (bluespock) was wrong for telling ladyvean and guljerry to "literally die" in response to them engaging in sexual roleplay under her post, which she did not consent to. Fine, even though I and other people who have witnessed how many times Dany had to deal with all kinds of gross, thoughtless and completely uncalled for comments on her posts, would strongly disagree. Because at some point you just lose all patience saved for dealing with stupid people, and that's understandable. And if you support the point that people shouldn't be offended by strangers saying weird shit on their personal posts on the internet... well, you know. If you wouldn't just randomly come up and say this to a complete stranger in real life, don't say it online. Do manners and common sense just stop existing the moment you log onto Tumblr?

And even if she was wrong about saying this, there was a much more diplomatic way to go about this. Like, none of you ever thought of apologizing first? No, you still think that jumping onto someone's post and roleplaying a mass murderer with a boner was an okay move. If one of you had even an ounce of empathy or just used your brain for a second, you would've come forward and apologised, and then you could've said Dany's words made you uncomfortable, too. But you completely refused to consider the feelings of the OP of the post you derailed, and decided to express your discomfort in the classiest, the tumblr-est way possible: by vaguing and namedropping.

You proceeded to call us, your opponents, children and "tumblr tots" while acting like infants yourselves, especially considering all of you are in the 25-30 (?) age range, and the oldest of the people you picked fights with were 21. I'm 16 myself and you are the same age as most my high school teachers. To imagine any of them or any people their age getting into petty arguments and acting like they were oh so hurt and offended by an 11-grader jokingly saying "I will kill people who fetishize genocidal dictators" on the internet — it's hilarious, to say the best. 

None of you were ever in any real danger. We weren't standing at your doorstep with battle axes and Bajoran phasers. Acting like being told to pee your pants is suicide baiting doesn't make you look very mature.

(Sidenote, it was really funny to watch ladyvean tell fluorescentbrains not to get into argument with them and simultaneously enjoy the support and help of everyone and their dog on her side. But, you know, hypocrisy probably isn't a new word for someone who thinks saying "Dukat is bad" once is enough a justification to go and continue roleplaying his dick.)

But that was all still when the whole situation could be described as petty fandom drama.

And then the whole nazi thing happened.

Like, even if it wasn't anyone from the scalie squad (including admitted nazi apologist mostlyhydratrash and their husband, the Token POC) who did this, that was when I lost the last bit of respect and consideration for anything any of you had to say. Your actions motivated someone to go and create entire blogs full of nazi imagery specifically to harass me, a Jewish minor.And none of you had even attempted to apologise.

No, you continued acting in your dumbass fashion and told me I made these blogs myself, as if it's really worth it, to go and give myself a panic attack just to frame you as the bad guys. Your arguments were already looking pathetic enough. 

But that's still unbelievable to me, that you had the fucking nerve to say I was the one harassing YOU on a post where I literally answered one of the disgusting asks I received.

I didn't even answer all of them. Just one. Just to show the mere scale of what's happening. I was too shook and panicked to answer anything that came after it, or even to screenshot it — I just blocked the rest of it as soon as I read it, and closed my askbox. Still, the first blog, which is now deactivated, enjoyed a solid 15 minutes of reblogging every post I made in the past day and shouting and calling me a nazi in between. 

Like, if you think this is excusable in any way, and me saying I want this disgusting freak to die is somehow a worse offence... wow. You are a nazi apologist, no more, no less.

And the funniest shit is that when one of my friends made a callout and mentioned that we have the nazi blog's IP address (we thought it was perilsperil, since they were the only person involved who was still online at the time it happened), whoever made it immediately came forward and apologised...

For inconveniencing perilsperil.

On anon.

Just further showing what a pathetic coward they really are. So you're brave enough to google and save nazi imagery, to arrange a whole blog harassing a 16-year-old, but not enough to show your fucking face after that? Your side was preaching the whole time about how words have consequences uwu, but apparently that doesn't apply when you are the one talking.

And how convenient must it be for all of you that I have no one to address my quite justified rage to, now you can claim that I'm harassing all of you! But, y'know... if the shoe fits...

Anyways. Dear Mature Adults! In the past couple of days you all have made a huge step in your Mature Adult Lives and now you can add another bullet point to your lists of Mature Adult Achievements, right next to boring shit like buying a house, finding a stable job and getting married to the only person in the world that can stand you. You very maturely harassed and encouraged harassment of a Jewish teenager, one of many people involved in a petty fandom debate, to the point that they decided to abandon their blog for the sake of their safety. Congratulations!

And I wish at least one of you would read all of this and at least feel bad for yourself, but I'm fairly sure that even if this post reaches one of you, you will probably skim it with a smirk on your face and still somehow blame me for what happened. Well. I wish I didn't care, but I kind of do, because I was hurt by your mindlessness.

And that's just the tea on that.

Reblogs are really appreciated, and if you can, please @ the people this is addressed to. I'm probably going to empty my blocklist just so they can see it.

This is the last post I’m making on this account.   

#really. read and rb please #L #nazi tw ///