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vibingforjudaism · 2 years
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#life is quite inaccessible for converted-under-the-wrong-movement jews#by which i mean: i can't go to the orthodox resources in my are#a#because i'm not jewish. thats understandable. and entirely reasonable honestly#like i for myself dont eitiher feel my conversion to conservative was enough i Want the whole orthodox deal#but the thing is non orthodox places#want me to do things that i'm not comfortable with. halachically. and im just#welp#long time no post. i was....planning on getting a place to live#within easy walking distance of orthodox shuls#but they were too expensive.#so i have to figure out how to proceed Now#i hate being poor. gd. i hate being poor. why--#why the fuck. why the fuck im already transgender. why the fuck do i have to be poor too#when all iw ant to do is be jewish and these things are making that so fucking difficult#ugh#my posts#sorry. im. exhausted. feeling low as one might say#negative /#i say 'easy' walking distance becase i am fortunate enough to have what is mostly a good pair of legs#and so i can walk for. a while.#but what i'd walk for and what most people would walk for are a vast difference#especially in my nice clothes where im going to show up miserable#like it would be nice to find a place within AN HOURS WALK. at LEAST#*HOUR'S#i guess an hour isn't all that long#it's just a bit during when weather happens#i wish--- well i wish transphobia didn't exist#but i wish there was a way to be like. ah. ok. you are a jew yes! but#you are like a baby. you are a baby jew.
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How to spot Liberal Zionist Propaganda 101
This post is by no means exhaustive at all. There are many Liberal Zionist talking points but these are just some of the most common ones. While on the surface they seem a little naive and hopeful at best, they are very much harmful. If you claim to be an ally to Palestinians, this post is primarily for you!
For starters, liberal Zionists will often try to both-sides the issue of Palestine, talk about how it's complicated, they'll claim that the conflict hurts both Israelis and Palestinians, how the only way forward is one where Jews and Arabs "just need to get along," amongst other things. They also often like to centre themselves, even when acknowledging Palestinians as the victims of Israel or this "conflict." From time to time, they also like to engage in tokenising certain Palestinians whose views tend to more or less align with theirs. Here are some common arguments you may hear from them:
1. Any form of justifying Israel's existence or claiming that the only solution is two states
It does not really need to be said why justifying Israel's existence is harmful but justifying its continued existence also means legitimising Israel's land theft, its expulsions of Palestinians, and its ongoing harm to Palestinians and other populations. Reducing any sorts of “solutions” into a binary is unhelpful. Needless to say, a 2ss would not even address any legitimate concerns Palestinian have, such as the right of return, and would only legitimise Israel’s colonialism. Talking about a two-state solution also implies that the root of the conflict lies in Palestinians not having their own state rather than being an occupied people. It is very much also possible to construct a paradigm where Jews and Palestinians both live together on the same land as equal citizens that doesn't involve two separate states, much less an ethnostate.
2. Security for Israel could only come through peace
This is a similar talking point to the one above. Not only does it centre Israeli safety and security above Palestinian liberation but it mistakenly assumes that once Israel makes peace with Palestinians, it'll achieve security. The reality, however, is that Israel's imagined security has quite often come at the expense of peace. In fact, "peace" has just acted as nothing more than a smoke-screen for Israel to carry out its expansionist policies, particularly in the West Bank. When liberal Zionists talk about peace juxtaposed with Israeli security, they're talking about attaining a negative peace rather than a positive one.
3. Israelis are not their government.
This point does nothing to actually help Palestinians. It is also an incredibly tone-deaf thing to say when Israel has targeted many Palestinian civilians by having alleged proximity to Hamas, such as being family members of militants or leaders (inc. children!), civil servants in a Hamas-led government, or even any male above the age of 15 they consider to be a potential combatant! It also deliberately erases Israeli civilians' support of and culpability in Israel's actions towards Palestinians.
4. Netanyahu and/or the Israeli right are the source of conflict.
While it is true that things have gotten inadvertently worse under Israel's various right-wing governments, they are not the source of conflict, but rather a product of extremist nationalism and Jewish supremacy perpetuated by the system. Both the 1967 occupations and settlements were undertaken under centre-left governments in Israel, and Israeli policy under non-right wing governments has been just as harmful towards Palestinians and has paved the way for where we are today. Blaming Netanyahu just also obscures the violent nature of Israel's military occupation over Palestinians which long precede him coming into power.
5. Netanyahu and Hamas are two sides of the same coin
I don't think I've seen any allies give validity to this claim but it's an extremely reductionist claim and is sort of similar to the one above. Groups like Hamas are merely a response to the Israeli occupation while Netanyahu is a byproduct of it. While some Israelis may see Hamas or their actions as an "obstacle to peace," Israel's actions and policies long pre-date Hamas and how Israel is currently responding to Hamas is no different to how Israel has engaged with Palestinian militant groups in the past, regardless of political affiliations or political goals. It is also important to note that Hamas has agreed to the establishment of a state along 1967 borders while Netanyahu aims to prolong the occupation and empower the settler movement (some of whom are part of his coalition government) as much as possible.
6. Israel is not a settler-colonial state.
While it is indisputable that Jews have historical connections to Palestine, that doesn’t automatically make you Indigenous or negate Israeli settler-colonialism. Colonialism in particular describes a relationship of exploitation. There are many cases of this, but we most clearly see this in the West Bank where Israel exploits natural resources on occupied Palestinian territory for its own political and economic gains. In terms of settler-colonialism, it is widely known that Israel expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to make way for Jewish refugees and migrants to the new state of Israel, and is still actively facilitating Jewish migration to Israel today while denying Palestinians their right of return.
7. (X) doesn't help Palestinians.
It is not up to anyone to determine whether certain tactics or strategies are helpful or not. This point only seeks to discredit pro-Palestine organising. Only Palestinians get to decide what is actually helpful for the cause or not.
8. Any sort of Hamas-blaming.
On the surface it may seem like there’s nothing wrong with this, but this point is often harmful and usually lends itself to right-wing talking points because its objective is to deflect blame away from Israel. Certain arguments blaming Hamas also aim to minimise Palestinian suffering perpetuated by Israel. It also paints Israeli violence as retaliatory to Palestinian violence which only obfuscates Israel’s (and by extension, the US’) role in its state military apparatus and the differing power dynamics between Israelis and Palestinians. In other contexts, this point seeks to also legitimise certain opposition, such as the Palestinian Authority. Hamas-blaming also tends to sometimes lead to racist diatribes about Palestinians and their culture.
9. Al-Jazeera is not a credible news source.
Al Jazeera is a news source like any other. It has varying editorial policies and therefore will have equally good reporting on certain issues while having terrible reporting on others. The difference is that Al-Jazeera's news on Palestine is credible because it comes directly from their Palestinian reporters on the ground and first-hand eyewitness accounts. Western news sources are no more or less credible than al-Jazeera. Compare this to CNN, NYT, and any other Western news sources where Palestinian voices are often entirely missing from the narrative.
10. Overemphasis of antisemitism on the left
Antisemitism is a real issue and has the potential to fester in left circles if not directly addressed head on. Combatting antisemitism is extremely important, however, it is not an issue exclusive to the left. There is also a double standard in that no one expects Zionists to call out Islamophobia and anti-Palestinian racism. Certain accusations of "antisemitism" also seek to distract from what's going on in Palestine by making it about Jewish comfort and feelings. Combatting antisemitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism etc is always important as the basis of good politics.
Last but not least, be wary of native collaborators or any sort of normalisers! They are Palestinians or Arabs who try very hard to appeal to Western liberal consensus and can end up perpetuating a lot of harm to the cause and/or other activists. You will know them when you see them.
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queer-geordie-nerd · 3 months
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I currently have a lot of Jewish mutuals/people I follow and over the course of the last few months, almost Every. Single. One has talked about their mental health declining, that they’re exhausted and terrified, that they’ve become more closed off and lost their trust in people from outside their communities, due to being gaslit and ignored constantly on a society wide scale. Almost all of them have experienced antisemitic abuse or violence personally or had bomb threats to their synagogues and community centres or had swastikas and slurs graffitied on their properties.
The worst thing about this outrage is that none of them are really surprised by it - frightened, sickened, yes - but not surprised. They and their ancestors have had to deal with this shit for thousands of years. And all of them expect - no they *know* - it’s going to get worse.
It’s beyond fucking shameful. We are failing these people on a massive, society wide scale. Again.
So, I NEVER want to see a single one of my fellow goyim say shit like “Jews are just playing the victim,” “the rise in antisemitism is overblown and not as bad as they say because I haven’t seen it,” “it’s just a few extremists,” because NO, IT ISN’T - it’s systemic. Those who aren’t directly perpetrating it are mostly ignoring it. If you won't believe or listen to Jewish voices (if not, why not?) then the cold statistics cannot be waved away.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-antisemitic-incidents-up-about-400-since-israel-hamas-war-began-report-says-2023-10-25/
https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-4-000-antisemitic-incidents-recorded-by-jewish-charity-in-uk-in-2023-with-explosion-in-hatred-blamed-on-hamas-attacks-13071580
https://www.reuters.com/world/how-surge-antisemitism-is-affecting-countries-around-world-2023-10-31/
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decolonize-the-left · 3 months
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Sound familiar?
"After the First World War, the map of Europe was re-drawn and several new countries were formed. As a result of this, three million Germans found themselves now living in part of Czechoslovakia.
When Adolf Hitler came to power, he wanted to unite all Germans into one nation.
In September 1938 he turned his attention to the three million Germans living in part of Czechoslovakia called the Sudetenland. Sudeten Germans began protests and provoked violence from the Czech police. Hitler claimed that 300 Sudeten Germans had been killed. This was not actually the case, but Hitler used it as an excuse to place German troops along the Czech border.
Things that happened in September 1938:
Sept 7. On instructions from Hitler, Konrad Henlein broke off negotiations with the Czech government. Allegations of Czech police brutality at Moravská Ostrava were used as an excuse
Sept 7. A famously controversial editorial appeared in The Times which recommended giving Hitler what he wanted because "the advantages to Czechoslovakia of becoming a homogenous State might conceivably outweigh the obvious disadvantages of losing the Sudeten German districts of the borderland."
Sept 13. French Prime Minister Édouard Daladier asked Neville Chamberlain (leader of Czechoslovakia) to make the best deal he could with Hitler.
Sept 20. The Czechoslovak government rejected the Anglo-French proposal in a note explaining that acceptance would mean that Czechoslovakia would be put "sooner or later under the complete domination of Germany."
Sept 20. Hitler met with the Polish ambassador Józef Lipski and told him that Germany would support Poland in a conflict with Czechoslovakia over Teschen. Hitler also said he was considering shipping Europe's Jews to a colony (Israel, a colony for Europe's displaced Jewish population would be established in 1948) and expressed hope that Poland would cooperate with such a plan. Lipski replied that if Hitler could solve the Jewish question, the Poles would build a monument to him in Warsaw
September 26. In the Berlin Sportpalast, Hitler made a speech threatening Czechoslovakia with war. "My patience is exhausted", Hitler declared. "If Beneš does not want peace we will have to take matters into our own hands.
Sept 27th. The French government announced that France would not enter a war purely over Czechoslovakia. Neville Chamberlain gave a radio address saying, "However much we may sympathize with a small nation confronted by a big and powerful neighbor, we cannot in all circumstances undertake to involve the whole British Empire in a war simply on her account. If we have to fight it must be on larger issues than that
Sept 27. President Franklin Roosevelt writes to German Chancellor Adolf Hitler regarding the threat of war in Europe. The German chancellor had been threatening to invade the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia and, in the letter, his second to Hitler in as many days, Roosevelt reiterated the need to find a peaceful resolution to the issue.
Sept 29. German Führer Adolf Hitler, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, French Prime Minister Édouard Daladier and Italian Duce Benito Mussolini met in Munich to settle the Sudetenland crisis. Czechoslovakia was not invited, neither was the Soviet Union.
Sept 30. Munich Agreement: At 1 a.m., the four powers at Munich agreed that Czechoslovakia would cede the Sudetenland to Germany by October 10. The territorial integrity of the rest of Czechoslovakia was guaranteed by all signatories. Neville Chamberlain flew back to Britain and declared "peace for our time"
I think we all deeply need to reconsider what we were taught about WW2. The allies who "saved" everyone from Hitler's camps are also the Same People who allowed him to get so much power in the first place.
Closer looks at these histories show they had their own motives for allowing it just like Biden does today. FDR & Biden are actually mirroring each other really well considering they're separated by time and death. FDR was pleading and asking Hitler to please stop doing war until Pearl Harbor cuz they had a good relationship like that :) Yeah, so all he really did up to that point was play arms dealer for France and Britain because he didn't wanna jeopardize his relationship with Germany by Directly getting involved.
Yeah.
See what I said about it sounding familiar?
And can I remind y'all that Hitler didn't start by saying he hated Jewish people. No.
You know what his plan was at first? A "Greater Germany" that would unify Germans across the territories that Germany was forced to concede after WW1.
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Fascists and dictators and warmongers come in all shapes, sizes and belief systems, but you can always recognize a Fascist Supremacist by the thinly veiled expansion genocide being done in the name of their people. And the guys who help them are always trying to gaslight you about how things are "It's not that bad"
All this to say: get the fuck up and make sure history doesn't keep repeating itself because it's starting to
Y'all are sitting there asking how the Holocaust could happen and Palestinians are asking why nobody is fucking doing anything.
These are related questions.
Get up and do something. Yeah it is crazy that you're going to work when a genocide is happening...so don't!!! So many people are scared of losing their comfort because of what MIGHT happen if it's for nothing, but I'm BEGGING y'all to ask yourselves what headlines you'd rather read about the 1930's-40's and make those real.
"Mob storms parliament, stops the Munich Agreement," "Citizens of (anywhere) create Organization to protect Jewish, Black, and Homosexual peers in opposition to state sponsored violence. Quote: These are my neighbors and Nazis can't have them." "Meet the University Students who chased Nazis off campus." "'We Couldn't Do Nothing' say arrested group of women who beat a Gestapo officer with a clothing iron." "'If they can't afford us, they can't afford war': How global strikes and the lack of scabs are changing the the future of war" "'I'm afraid to Sleep' American Nazis restless after serial arsonist publishes their addresses in the paper"
Germans literally tried to assassinate Hitler. Like several times. We need to step it up.
There are SO MANY things we can do if we can just agree that none of us will be doing them alone! You are NOT powerless to stop this war just because you aren't in Palestine!!!
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germiyahu · 4 months
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The amount of intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt inversion you can see just by scrolling for a single minute on some of these blogs. I think jumblr should be careful, not that there's anything to be done about it. But a lot of your talking points, your debunking, your proofs, what have you, are going to end up on some Tankie blog but inverted so that it's about Israel and not Hamas, it's about the West and not Muslim antisemitism.
I don't even need to list examples because not a single complaint or point made by someone on jumblr is safe from being turned around. But here's one: a post that I kid you not said something like:
"Palestinians: we're being massacred and tortured
People on tumblr: I'm gonna need 10 cited sources in mla format on my desk by Friday"
It's such a blatant ripoff of Jews complaining about this website (in what world is the majority of Tumblr demanding scrutiny for claims about Israeli atrocities? In what world?) demanding exhaustive proof that Israeli women were raped, and then ignoring any proof they're shown anyway. They sealion Jews and then steal the fruits of their intellectual labor to turn it back on them. And it's clear they're specifically and exclusively referencing jumblr. So that post in particular is a deliberate slap in the face to everyone who's been advocating for victims of sexual violence.
I don't want to say stop factchecking and stop correcting and stop pushing back and stop using basic logic. Because someone has to draw lines in the sand when truth is so meaningless to this crowd. But there's an almost 100% chance your carefully crafted words are just going to be used in the latest lie, which will get a minimum of 2k notes, which sucks.
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peoplevsbirds · 2 months
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That’s a lot of words, you could have kept it succinct by just saying that you hate muslims.
Idk how many fucking times we have to tell you that the “FTRTTS” is about THE LAND OF PALESTINE!!!
No, the “evil muslims” aren’t planning on slaughtering everyone who currently lives in Israel, that’s the Israeli armies M.O.
And don’t even act like Christians are taking up arms against Israel. most Christians love the existence of Israel for 2 reasons, 1. It provides an easy way to get rid of their Jewish populations by encouraging them to leave their countires, and 2. Evangelicals want the Jews in Israel so when the ends of times come, every jew will die so they can be reunited w Jesus in heaven (or whatever the fuck).
Not to mention how many IDF soldiers and Israeli citizens are posting on social media about how they can’t wait to raze Gaza to the fucking ground.
Companies are planning on siezing that land and are auctioning it off to Israeli’s and other foreign zionists literally right fucking now.
Literally how can you argue that the current goal of the IDF is to do anything but either kill everyone in Gaza or force them out of the land using terrorism????
Signed,
An exhausted antizionist Jew
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/724781513472868352 I resonate with this on a deep level. I get told at college all the time that I don't look LGBT+ (they refuse to say queer, respectability politics is a helleva drug), I don't act it, no queer person is into my major or my hobbies, and it's weird that I'm queer but not into astrology or dressing more aesthetically ("are you a cottagecore or a dark academia gay?" I'm neither I'm a me) or playing Pokemon because outgrowing Pokemon is for cishets. People talk about gays/LGBT+ not being able to drive or do math or sit normally and then act like I'm some kind of ridiculous weirdo for not laughing at what they assure me is a true statement that does not apply to them or to me. People encourage me to experiment with my style or hair and "come out of your shell". I am informed I need to listen to certain musicians because all LGBT+ people are into them. It's weird that I'm not. It's even weirder I don't like The Owl House or hate Steven Universe or keep up with Heartstopper like the good queers do.
Basically it all boils down to, "Why can't you be more normal? Why can't you be like us?"
Because I'm not. My dad is a Pashtun Muslim and my mother is a Bukharan Jew. I have lived in the Deep South half my life and Wyoming the other half. My media interests are unrelated to queer rep and wholly based on liking the plots of things. I grew up on oldies and TV shows like Starsky and Hutch that my parents loved, pirated and played on repeat. I don't believe in astrology, I'm not a witch and I'm not an atheist with a Christocentric worldview who assumes all religions are Christianity Lite. I don't listen to the correct musicians mostly because I discover music entirely by accident and have a mishmash of genres and bands in rotation. Pokemon fell off and I'm not into it. I would sooner die than dye my Pashtun red hair that people made fun of me for as a kid. I like wearing button downs, clean shirts, nice jeans and my Magen David. None of this is incompatible with being queer. No one is going to kick me out of a gay club for not having played Pokemon Violet or listening to Tracy Chapman or trusting in science over crystals for healing.
And I really hate that after years of being avoided and pitied in high school by jackass backwards rednecks for being weird, I got to my dream university, the university in the most liberal city in Montana, and get the same fucking treatment.
Commenters like the one anon mentioned remind me of all the people who act like I'm doing it wrong. What is 'it', in that sentence? Living my life. Being queer. And when it crops in fandom - and I've gotten it sometimes for writing queer characters who are like me, Southern and into uncool shit and not sharp dressers and religious - it just makes me want to start screaming.
I am queer. I am not incorrectly queer. I am who I am and therefore, because I am queer, that is a correct way to do queerness.
Some gripes about Gen Z are overblown but this weirdly narrow view of what queerness is allowed to look like or be is 100% as awful as other generations say it is and it's fucking exhausting to live through. I don't have to sit differently in order to be doing queerness right or be unable to drive. I exist and I am queer and that is all I need to do and be.
I wish fandom was different from real life. I wish it was more open to the reality that queer people have a multitude of backgrounds and lived experiences. We're facing enough shit IRL, can't we just have one place where we're NICE to each other?
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As a 40+ queer, I'm laughing myself sick at the current crop of "required" queer interests.
In my day, it was oldschool cis gay male culture for the men (think being obsessed with Bette Davis) and But I'm a Cheerleader and Dykes to Watch Out For for the women or something.
Not that you have to like any of those things either. It's just hilarious how clueless people are about what's a temporary trend that will probably be different in 5 years.
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rainofaugustsith · 1 year
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So in the conversations about cures, there is one thing I'd like to reiterate: It is absolutely bleeding exhausting to have abled/not chronically ill people going on about cures and how they can fix you.
It's often the first fucking thing people do after you tell them what your illness is - they immediately pile on with the unsolicited advice about just how you can fix yourself. And 99.9% of the time, I guarantee you it's absolute trash that shows no understanding whatsoever of your condition.
Prayer. Kale. Juice fasts. Untested supplements not approved by the FDA that somehow manage to cure things like sickle cell anemia. Have you found Jesus (and I specifically say Jesus because Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists - well, just about everyone else - usually will NOT try to convert you or insist you just need to pray harder to their god to be magically cured)? Maybe if you lost some weight or took up yoga? There's this guru I listen to. On and on and on.
And often, if they don't think you are desperately trying everything and anything random people throw at you, why, you must not really be sick. You don't WANT to get better because you're not trying organic lettuce fasts and crystals to cure your genetic disease that isn't even understood well by most doctors.
Most of us get angry about even one unsolicited comment or criticism. We think it's rude when someone snipes about appearance or clothes. So why is it okay to pepper disabled and chronically ill people with your half-baked cures, or think they even want them?
Imagine how you'd feel if the moment you left your house, people started picking at, say, the shape of your eyebrows. Maybe you could bleach them? Shape them? Shave them off? If only you'd let us help you! It comes from a place of love! Imagine that's all you heard all day long the moment someone saw your eyebrows. You'd get sick of it really damn quickly, and you'd probably really resent that people's first instinct was to tell you what they felt was wrong with you and that they were within their rights to tell you how to fix it.
You might feel angry or upset that they were not accepting you as you were.
That's how it goes with cures, folks.
The only time I as a chronically ill and disabled person am interested in hearing about treatments is if it's coming from someone with the same/similar condition and we're talking and comparing notes. But interesting thing, then it's usually shop talk, it's not 'BUT YOU NEED KALE AND PRAYER.' Do I talk to other people with my illness about the meds they take, what works, what doesn't? Sure. But key things: we've both agreed to participate in that discussion AND we both have the condition in question, AND nobody is picking at anyone else to do anything. Those discussions often end "well, that's great it works for you! Good luck with it!" and it's fine.
I'll be honest, if you could tell me tomorrow "Rain, we have a 100% certain cure for something you have" would I sign up? Fucking yes. But am I waiting around for that cure? No. Because most illnesses don't have cures. Some have treatments, and some don't. Some of us know this. I'm doing my best to live my life as it is, as I am, in this moment, and that's what I want people to understand. I want to be accepted as I am in this time, just as we all do.
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i’ve seen so many people simply claim that jewish palestinians point blank do not exist and it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of judaism/jewish history to claim they do… 🫥 deeply exhausting takes on this website
That's the thing is that it's just a blatant rewrite of history. And I'm not saying this to tokenize Jewish Palestinians or anything or make them a construct, it's just as someone who wonders at what point "Palestinian" ends and what point "Jewish" begins or vise versa. Like it's a question of identity. If I decide, myself, that I want to convert to judiasm... well right now, I can't as Palestinians aren't allowed to convert which is weird as hell, but if I could and wanted to — am I giving up a part of identity and switching it out for another one? Am I allowed to keep both identities together? If so, how do I fit into my community at large? What decides me, a 3rd generation refugee who has never been to Palestine, as "Palestinian" enough? Someone can deny my Palestinian heritage because there are arbitrary definitions being put in place without the consultation of all community members.
Like what's the point of this separation? I genuinely don't see a reason beyond segregation purposes. Some people say that it's to keep Jewish people safe (which I don't believe but to go along with this argument), But that safety relies on segregation and division of a society. Which obviously no real safety can occur, but also like you can't lie and say that it's something it's not. You can't say a society that makes distinctions based on identity legally is in any way democratic or just for all people for that matter. Because even if there are efforts to make people equal, when you have to say "Palestinians and Jews are equal..." Well you just straight up named the two groups you think have a difference between each other. That implicitly requires the reader to perceive a divide.
And you can argue, "let's just call everyone Israeli and make no distinctions between Palestinian and Jewish people," but Palestinians in Israel would never agree to that unilaterally, even if we are operating on a two state solution (which will never happen but for arguments sake). They'd rather not abandon their cultural identification. And even then, when the society is built of Jewish supremacy with the express purpose of erasing Palestinians codified in their founding documents, is that equality, knowing an indigenous population had to give up their identity to subscribe to perceived peace? Isn't that inherently violent and anti-equality?
Indiginiety, in Palestine, as i dont feel confident to speak on other peoples cultures and struggles, has to do with your relationship to colonialism as well as the land. For me, an indigenous person who has suffered the effects of displacement of colonialism and who regularly watches from afar as their land gets tormented, to hear that the only way I can go back to visit that land is to deny my centuries worth of ancestors buried on PALESTINIAN land, then I'd be incredibly heartbroken. This is even from my own perspective, which I consider the least important in my family line. My grandmother should be able to see her father's burial place without worrying about whether or not she's considered Palestinian or fully colonized as Israeli. My mother should be able to stroll the lands she's always heard stories about without worrying that the very essense of her personhood, the thing shes been denied her entire life having to grow up in refugee camp, as a palestinian is being denied in totality at the end of her struggle. People in refugee camps should be able to go back without worrying about where they fall in the world hierarchies of weirdly defined terms.
So like what's the real purpose with this distinction, exactly?? Any sort of society which operates on some basis of understanding that it is "for" a specific group of people and not anyone else is inherently flawed.
And like, again, Jewish Palestinians are a demographic that exist, I'm not saying this as a gotcha or construct, I am asking this for myself who has stakes in the matter of how this question is answered and dealt with in this larger framework. Would I stop being Palestinian if I decide one day to convert to judiasm? Am I "Palestinian enough" to receive the right of return based on the definitions of Palestinians you come up with in an Israeli society? If I'm excluded in any way, then yeah, I'm going to be angry about it. Most people would be. The issue is that I don't see a way to go about answering these questions without inevitably excluding someone or some group, if not in the definition, in the ways we form our communities after the fact.
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I used to be anti Israel and anti Zionism back when I was in leftist-only spaces and only consumed pro Palestine media and narratives. I have taken a very long break from instagram (my main social media outlet) and it was really great for me, and helped me see past my views and change my perspective on things and politics. I’m not anti Israel anymore, nor am I anti zionist. In fact I’m so ashamed that I use to blindly believe the narrative against Israel and Jewish people. I realize now so many “anti Zionists” are just anti Jewish hiding behind a mask. I’m ashamed I never said anything even when I felt uncomfortable in their narratives. Recently logged back to insta and it’s so bad. I don’t really know where I’m going with this, I feel bad I’m such a coward but I support Israel and Jewish ppl, and I’m glad accounts like yours exist that tell the truth, even when it’s exhausting.
I know others like me are out there, who are just too afraid to speak out. The pro Palestine/anti Israel movement is very reactionary and cult like. Speaking out even against lies will get you labeled a imperialist settler-colonialism supporter.
I remember getting hate even back in 2021 when I was anti Israel for saying I didn’t see anything wrong with China trading with Israel.
Sorry for ranting, I’m sending so much love and support 🫶🏾
You are not a coward. It takes a lot for people to reconsider their views and to spot the signs of toxic behavior / demands from their "allies." You should be proud of yourself for taking that step.
I have had many anons tell me they have to keep their Judaism / don't-kill-Jews beliefs secret on their main blogs or else they'll be ostracized from their online communities and fandoms, their IRL friend groups. It's not just you. Eventually there will be important literature and art depicting those pressures and demands for silence. It will look like how depictions of the Red Scare look now.
Thank you for any voice of encouragement you can give.
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if goyische americans expect american jews to willingly contribute more to the USA then they need to start treating us like americans instead of "others". because it is exhausting to be expected to work more to earn a place in your own country, whether you were born there or immigrated there, simply because of your ethnicity and/or religion. goyische americans have plenty of struggles with this, esp immigrants, im not saying those issues don't exist im just focusing on jews in the USA right now. no matter what we invent or the problems that we solve we are never enough to be seen as worthy of our own homes. we are separated from the vast majority of people from the USA oftentimes against our own will. goyim do not see us as their neighbors, friends, coworkers, etc. to them we are entirely different from the rest of the american people no matter our level of observance, our contributions to society, or anything of the sort. a jew is a jew to them and they dont mean that in a kind and welcoming way.
"they're using our tax dollars" you mean jewish people who are citizens of the USA sometimes get government assistance in the same way that any other group does?
"they're controlling our federal government" there are not many jews in the federal government. how could we be controlling anything? is the presence of a singular jew enough to make you think that.
"at least they care about this country" this might seem nice however its a backhanded compliment. it makes us seem like a separate entity that cares about some far away land rather than people caring about their own home.
so if you're upset that jews align ourselves with the jewish community more strongly than with the USA then consider how you treat us. why do you expect us to care about this nation more than any other group when you can't even see us as citizens of your own home? when you have done nothing to protect the jews in your life? when you have othered us for decades while benefitting from our work? why must we denounce our culture and our religion to be seen as true American citizens?
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fierceawakening · 7 months
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So I just read something that said "Zionism" properly refers to the claim by Herzl that Jews specifically need their own state, and that Herzl specifically modeled his vision of how this state should look and operate on what the US did to indigenous people here.
That's what I always thought "Zionism" meant, and why it always seemed odd to me that people say that opposing "Zionism" is genteel antisemitism.
The claim kinda sounded to me as someone who understood this to be what "Zionism" is like... if someone said "I'm against white nationalism," and I said to them "why do you want white people exterminated?"
So I dunno. Can anyone untangle this for me? The Herzl guy seems like a world-class ass, which is why I keep getting stuck.
I think that Jewish refugees needed a place to go, and I don't think absolutely everything about "this spot will be your place to go" is "the settlers'" fault. It seems like people took the land and offered it to people who didn't object on moral grounds, which might be bad but I'm not sure I can blame refugees for being like "sure fine I'm exhausted and deeply traumatized and I need a house, let's not think further than that."
But I'm still not sure any group having an ethnostate is likely to end well.
White nationalists suck, but that doesn't make other nationalists make sense. And... what little bits and pieces of Israeli policy seem to be leaking to the media sure sound nationalistic, like that one tweet that showed the whole region with an Israeli flag superimposed, supposedly emanating from the official Israeli twitter.
I don't want to talk in ways whose roots in antisemitism I don't know, but at the same time... I can't seem to interpret that bit as anything but a call for an ethnostate and... people of my skin color have done horrific things, but I don't think we're unique in our capacity for cruelty when given an excuse.
Help?
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scrumpster · 1 year
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I am proud of being a Jew and I would never change myself but it really does get exhausting to exist in online spaces where antisemitic rhetoric is so abundant. I was joking around with my friend and the subject of Dashcon came up. I remembered that there was some footage from it so I went to go pull it up. Here’s the first result.
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[For anyone unable to read it, the description of the video says “Re-upload due to Jews”]
And it’s just like. I’m not going to let it ruin my night, especially considering how mild this comment is (relative to some of the others I’ve seen or had directed at me) but it’s so fucking frustrating to have this happen. To be suddenly reminded of how people regard me, regard my family, and regard all of my Jewish siblings out there in the world.
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killing-time-w-kaz · 2 months
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I just got off the phone with my friends.
One of my friends and I have basically adopted two underclassmen, especially with how rough things have been the last six months. The sophomore is so stressed and upset with the most recent bombing of Israel, since her family is there. She told us how scared she is that her grandmother is there and how the current missiles can penetrate bomb shelters. And how people on her campus are fucking celebrating this.
I had dinner w my senior friend and our adopted freshman tonight and we had to take the phone away from my “co-parent” because she just kept checking Instagram to keep track of where alarms were going off. She had just gotten off the phone with her cousins in Israel and she won’t be able to contact them for the future since the signals are getting scrambled. She doesn’t know when she will hear from her cousins next.
This is reminding me of October and I don’t like it one bit. We have 5 weeks left until graduation. We are emotionally frayed. It is exhausting being around people who celebrate when our friends and family are in danger. I’m not surprised at the lack of humanity from my classmates, but it’s so exhausting. Especially when people we thought we could trust perpetuate antisemitism and are silent after doing their little performative activism.
Don’t think I don’t see you, cowards. Some of you can’t be bothered to stand up for Jews unless they fit your perfect narrative. I don’t even have to say I know you wouldn’t lift a finger if a pogram happened, because that’s exactly what you’ve been doing for the last 6 months.
It is so fucking upsetting watching my friends in pain. I want nothing more than to erase that pain and fix everything. And knowing that while I can just keep showing up, I only have 7 more weeks to do so before going off grid.
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that-rad-jewish-girl · 3 months
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A few things I will get off my chest:
I’ve only been reposting - not posting myself. I have my own life with my own issues going on. I have my own family worries (literally) keeping me up at night as I am on the other side of the world from Israel right now.
Additionally, I spend a lot of my day at work and school being asked a million questions about the conflict. I’m asked to debunk and disprove crap that could easily be done with a simple google search and some common sense.
The same people asking questions cause they “just wanna educate themselves” also say the most lowkey antisemitic crap to me. For example, my coworkers have taken to referring to my tichel as a shower curtain or a tablecloth (to our customers, no less). And even after I ask to be left alone at work, they say “sure, sure, but can you tell me about xyz?” Completely disregarding that I don’t want to talk about this emotionally exhausting subject 24/7.
That all being said:
This guy asked me to explain the history of the conflict, which I did willingly. Then he sent me links, asking me to debunk people in his asks. I didn’t respond cause I had my own crap going on. So he began messaging me daily (sometimes multiple times a day) asking why I wasn’t responding. I finally just blocked him - I don’t have the spoons to deal with you right now bud.
And this was his response to that.
If your ally-ship to Jewish people only exists as long as we are doing the work for you, you’re a pos. You are not an ally, actually. I skimmed what you sent me, saw it was obvious if you did 2 minutes of research, and decided not to respond. You took that like a crazy boyfriend and sent multiple messages trying to get me to do your research for you. And then got mad when I wasn’t responding, so I just blocked you. Then you made a new account just to message me that I’m rotten and should go fuck myself since I didn’t do what you wanted.
You are not an ally. You are not a good person.
Consider that Jews have a familial aspect to worry about in this conflict. We are worried about our friends, families, and community right now. We are also not walking encyclopedias available at your every whim to answer every question you have.
Have the day you deserve.
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acertainmoshke · 5 months
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This is more personal than I usually get on this blog, but it seems to have turned into my main account now so I'm going to say the thing because I need to put it somewhere.
Over the past few months, there has been more than one person in my town using the public comment opportunity at the city council to go on antisemitic rants. Because of this, there is now a proposal to add a specific definition of antisemitism to their toolkit so that they know how and when to shut down this form of hate speech, just as they already know to for others already listed.
There is a vote this week to add it or not.
There are expected to be 100 people there in opposition, I expect both Nazi-leaning and leftists who claim it's a waste of energy to protect Jews like you want to protect everyone else.
100 people is twice the entire membership of the local synagogue.
Our rabbi has been practically begging people to wear kippot, show up looking visibly Jewish, and at least sit there for the meeting.
This seems like the smallest possible activism, but sitting there for up to six hours late into the night on a weekday and listening to how much people hate us sounds exhausting and overstimulating. I'm still going to go.
But I'm so tired and scared and angry. Rabbi sat down with several of us today to talk about what it's like to lose leftist friends who can't tell the difference between supporting Netanyahu's actions and protecting American Jews from growing hatred. So they choose to avoid doing either.
Who remembers Pittsburgh in 2018? I remember that the next week my shul 1,000 miles away started locking their door and charging security fees to pay guards. The place here is smaller. We have a designated guy who stands in the back to watch the locked door, both to let people in and to be a warning system. Just in case.
And I'm just so tired.
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