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kitakami-kid · 4 months
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i love this interaction so much... kills myself...
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phopollo · 9 days
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I hear you @rudeboimonster
But I dont really think Kieran would have the muscle to lift Carmine, let alone throw her
However, I do think that he could do this!
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You're so right though, it would be good for both of them if Kieran was the cause of Carmine hitting the water unexpectedly in some way though
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saccharinescorpion · 3 months
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remember when you were fourteen and you were convinced you were evil and irredeemable and completely insane but it turns out you were just fourteen
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dipplinduo · 4 months
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*At the community center where Juliana and Amarys are staying while in Kitakami*
Kieran, leaving Juliana's room: ...
Carmine, leaving Amarys' room: ...
Kieran: I was never here.
Carmine: I won't tell if you won't.
Kieran: Deal.
THE QUIET SIBLING AGREEMENT LMAOOOOOOOO
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maybecoffeemixed · 5 months
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MAIN PLOT LINE OF DLC HAS BEEN FINISHED, SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT (long post, be warned)
7.8/10, kieran doesn't actually kill us.
Seriously though, I enjoyed it!! Since I don't actually own the game (we poor), I watched a no-commentary playthrough so there are plenty of things I very likely missed, including optional dialog, side-quests, and whatever that thing with the professors is (still lookin' for a video without some guy over it), so I can only comment on the bits I saw! That being said, here we go.
First of all, the BATTLES!! Despite not being able to play them myself, they looked SUPER fun!! I screamed when I saw Lacey's tailwind/lightscreen prankster whimsicott, and even MORE so when I saw it was sashed! I loved the usage of competitive items, and the fact that all their teams weren't completely mono-type, each having one exception to their type (Lacey's excadrill, Crispin's Exeggcutor, Amarys's Reuniclus, and Drayton's Sceptile) that they DIDN'T terrastalize was lovely touch!! Amarys's fight was super hype in particular, despite having an over 20 level advantage, the person I watched still nearly wiped to her! Her trick room AI does appear a bit goofy, but it's a small flaw. Finally, Kieran's battle... I personally adore a good rain team, but unfortunately Kieran's politoed was frozen at the start of the battle, and remained that way all the way til the end, so I can't honestly say how difficult it looked. The one thing I will say is that before the indigo disk was out, I created a hypothetical team for Kieran, and I CALLED that Grimmsnarl!! Literally even the focus sash. If anyone's curious, here was the hypothetical team I made. I'm a nuzlocker, not a competitive player, so it very well may be shit. Apologies in advance.
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Next is the characters!! Every design slapped as always, and I enjoyed their personalities! Lacey was adorbs, Crispin was fun, and Amarys might just be one of my new favorites! As for Drayton? Let me tell you, I was side-eyeing him the whole time the MOMENT after he said THIS to Kieran.
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After all the hype around dokutaro/peechikeen (now know as pecharunt, apparently), and all the speculation that Kieran would fall victim to its influence, him saying "that's just peachy" made my rat brain go into overdrive. In the end, I think it was just Legends Arceus giving me Volo flashbacks.
Now, the main event... KIERAN! Let me tell you, he gave me GOOSEBUMPS. Every time he appeared, I could feel a chill run up my spine, and his battle had my heart RACING. ESPECIALLY his breakdown at the end of it! One of the best times I've had in a good while. The animation, his reaction, all of it was GREAT!! It was so refreshing to see him not immediately heel-face turn.
Unfortunately, though, what happened after that all disappointed me. I admit I got too attached to the Dokutaro Posession theory, buy it was still disappointing for Dokutaro (I know that's not its name, leave me be) to not play any role in the main story. It felt like a natural conclusion to what the game was setting up, I thought he'd throw the master ball at terapagos, it'd fail, and he'd become so overwhelmed with everything that has happened that he'd succumb to Dokutaro's control and we'd have to fight the Dokutaro-Kieran with Terapagos's aid. That's not what happened, and I felt a bit sad. His recovery from his breakdown was still set up nicely and had some atleast sufficient justification, but it still felt like too-little too-soon. It felt more like he just gave up all together rather than defeated his demons. He'd never be as strong as the player, and that's that, which is a sour note to leave off on.
We see that he legitimately has nothing. All the other students left the MOMENT he was defeated. No one came to help the kid who was clearly having a panic attack. The BB league cares about him, sure, but I wouldn't consider them his friends. They all thought Kieran getting defeated would "fix" him, and even when he clearly wasn't any better after being defeated, they didn't do anything to assist him. Sure, sometimes when someone has climbed so high, you gotta let them fall, but once they do, you can't just leave them lying on the ground. You need to be there to lift them back up before they start digging.
This isn't an attack on the BB league at ALL. Like I said, I really enjoyed their characters! In fact, this reaction is part of the reason I like them so much. It adds depth.
I just wish that Kieran DID start digging, and that it led to something bigger. Even if Dokutaro wasn't involved, I atleast wanted the final battle with him to be that big thing, and not just a turtle that can't do anything but throw out weak earthpowers.
Though the biggest failing to me is that Kieran apologizes to us, but we don't apologize to him. We as in the player, and Carmine
Kieran's actions are his own and I'm not saying he shouldn't have apologized, but he wasn't solely culpable for how things turned out. We and Carmine purposefully lied, kept a secret that was dear to him, and were the straw that broke the camel's back. Even if we the player didn't apologize, Carmine should've!! Her treatment of Kieran heavily impacted him, and he mirrored her abuse (Kieran telling Carmine to "Shut it", just like she did to him, for example).
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, was in the wrong here. Kieran took things too far, Carmine behavior is a serious problem, and the played character was complicit.
I'm not demonizing anyone here, I am the number one Carmine defender after all, but everyone needs to take responsibility. Not. Just. Kieran.
I relate heavily to both Kitakami siblings, as both an elder sister with younger siblings who she's accidentally mistreated, and as a little sister with an older sibling who treats me like I'm lesser.
I've lashed out at my older sibling, and while my reaction wasn't proportional, it doesn't mean my emotions weren't justified.
I have severe genetic anger issues (that I'm now thankfully medicated for), and have unjustly taken them out on my younger siblings.
Carmine needs to apologize too, or the cycle will just continue. Maybe she already did and I missed it, or maybe it happens in the post-game. However, if she didn't? It makes me feel unresolved.
Anyways, that all I gotta say on it!! Hope someone enjoyed this overly long rambling!!
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(P.S. I still don't trust dragon boy. "Thats just peachy" my ASS, you know something ya toothpaste haired cunt. Why did they request to bring ya along to area zero anyways, ya plot relevant FUCK.)
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ace-t-rex-in-space · 2 months
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Carmine's Actions Make Sense
I'm not an apologist because yeah, Carmine doesn't always make the right decisions, but I'm kinda shocked how many people are calling her abusive or toxic for her actions which all feel justifiable. I'm not saying she didn't do anything wrong, but I understand Carmine's thought process for each item.
Carmine telling the player to not tell Kieran about them seeing Ogerpon is reasonable given that we don't know anything about Ogerpon at this time and that what Carmine says about Kieran running up into the mountain at night also is an accurate assumption. Kieran already tells us that he goes up to the Oger's cave when it's not really allowed for people to go up there. It's not really far-fetched for Carmine to A. Know Kieran does this as his older sister who's the main person looking after him, and B. Know Kieran is impulsive enough to do this if he knew the oger was real. She has valid concerns about wanting to wait to tell her brother anything because the mountains of Kitakami are not safe at night, so it's not safe to tell Kieran and have him run up there.
The mountains are confirmed not to be safe by Carmine and by Kieran. So it's not Carmine being overprotective, it's common knowledge at Kitakami that the mountains are not safe.
People seem to think Carmine hits Kieran? People seem to think she beats the hell out of him? Because they're misremembering a line during your scene with Carmine and Kieran's grandfather. I've seen people quote the line "I WAS being kind! It's not like I hit him again." Which is not the line in the cutscene. The line is "I WAS being Kind! It's not like I hit him or anything!" This line isn't proof that Carmine has ever hit her brother, more that she understands hitting him would be mean, but doesn't imply she ever did it. Carmine is never shown as physical with any of the characters, including Drayton who annoys her the most out of the cast. I just think it's a stretch to make claims about her hitting him.
I also want to note it makes sense she wanted to continue keeping it a secret because her grandfather told her to. He mentions how the villagers would be angered knowing that a legend that is so close to their hearts would be challenged. It makes sense Carmine would believe this because she got upset with Kieran during the festival when he said something about the oger. So Carmine would believe that the rest of the village would be as protective as her over Kitakami and it's legends. Also these are their grandparents, the only people Carmine can be a kid with because she's not always Kieran's protector when they are with them, they it's their responsibility to parent, not hers (though you can really tell how non-equipt to raise children the grandparents are in their scenes.)
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false-savior · 3 months
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hell yeah pokemon!
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blazingstar400 · 1 month
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itsvae10 · 14 days
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I just thought it would be fun to draw Carmine and Kieran when they were younger
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lact101 · 21 days
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Here take these shitty doodles tumblr dot com
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redcurrant5 · 4 days
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saccharinescorpion · 7 months
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"Get to your position."
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dipplinduo · 3 months
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maybecoffeemixed · 5 months
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Hey wait a damn minute
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I know what you are
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ace-t-rex-in-space · 2 months
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Hot Take: Mochi Mayhem needed more story to it
I have a little bit of a pet-peeve of when media needs to create more media to explain itself? I feel like in the story of Scarlet and Violet you don't get the connection between the 3 and Pecharunt. If you want to know you have to watch the YouTube Video Posted on the Pokemon YouTube Channel To get the missing parts of the story. But why couldn't we get this info while playing the game?
Like Pecharunt canonically had Carmine under its control first, and we know Percharunt can control what people say, etc. So why couldn't Pecharunt use Carmine to vocalize why it was suddenly possessing the people of Kitakami? It also would have been nice to see Carmine have a bigger role than just Mochi Mochi dance. It would have been cool to see Pecharunt use Carmine and Nemona together as a defense against the protag and Kieran. That would have made for a cool double battle, especially with Carmine's Pokemon's assistance moves buffing Nemona's team. Or having both Carmine and Nemona get new team members for that final battle to increase the difficulty of that final fight.
It would have been nice too to see more people struggle with the brainwashing as well. For example, have Nemona gain a little more control during battles or have Carmine snap out of control for a second if Kieran gets hurt. I would have loved to see that little bit of struggle and to have actual dialog like when you have the 3 and Ogerpon in your party against Pechant for that final battle before everyone is free from mind control.
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shadowstep · 19 days
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Anyone else love both Kieran and Carmine like me? I know they’ve both got flaws and extremely poor communication skills, but I just can’t help love their relationship and character dynamic. Because despite the rough arguments and attitudes they have with each other, you can tell they deeply care about one another in their own way.
Plus, it was fun getting to see their journey together throughout all 3 DLCs (Although I wish we could’ve battled Possessed Carmine during Mochi Mayhem)
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