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kradogsrats · 6 months
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then Daedalus saw the wings of his dear Icarus, floating on the waves; and he wept, and cursed his fatal art
I am manifesting O N E ( 1 ) thing for s6 okay
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mjbarrosart · 9 months
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My Dragon Prince Boards season 5 part 1
So, now that season 5 is out I can share with you some of the work I did in the show as Storyboard Artist. This boards were done between the last months of 2021 and the first ones of 2022.
If you have questions about the process of boarding for the show please ask, just remember not to ask about seasons 6 and 7 :)
This is going to be more than one post, so It's divided by episode.
Episode 502
My first sequences was with Callum and Rayla in the forest in their way to Xadia.
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Jack de Senna acting was so animated that was hard to not make Callum's acting super extra too. Callum/Rayla's dynamic is pretty fun.
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My next sequence was with Claudia's team. A much dark mood than the previous one. Racquel Belmonte is my favorite voice actor in the show, so any chance to work with Claudia was a privilege. Also, Terry is a sweetheart.
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The next one was when Viren meets Kpp'ar on his fever dream. This one was hard, is an slow moment that needs to feel tense but still interesting. I really love what the lighting and compositing team did with the lights here.
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I also did the sequence when Callum and Rayla are leaving the comfy Inn, their interactions are so fun in that sequence, hahaha.
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My last sequence on this episode (and my favorite of it) is the one where Callum and Rayla are crossing "The Scar".
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I remember clearly reading on the script the line where Rayla is talking about how is a wound that is healing, and in one of the meetings I asked Aaron "Is Rayla talking about the scar or about their relationship?" ... well I leave the answer he gave me to your imagination ;) but after that meeting I added this shots :3
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I really like the little symbolism at the end of the sequence with new life growing in a place like this. The world can heal.
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Those were my contributions to episode 502, next post will be 505. Thanks for checking my art!
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its-leethee · 2 months
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OK yes I'm back on my Jailer-cryptography bullshit, but Kpp'ar's cane looks too much like a wheel cipher to me and I'm losing sleep over it
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A wheel cipher works by labeling disks with letters or symbols on the edge and stacking them on a rod; you can twist them to line up and code/decode your message.
A famous example of a wheel cipher is the Jefferson Disk.
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a Jefferson wheel cipher
Another device that works on a similar principle is the cipher disk.
So, if you're still reading, humour me by looking at a couple more fashion accessories for mages:
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So interesting how Ziard's is bound by chains while the Jailer's features keys, isn't it?
That ring with the spokes? Kinda looks like it could be the wheel from an enigma cipher (video demo here).
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PS if you want to learn more about enigma machines and encryption, because they're really fucking cool and no I'm not hyperfixated at all hah hah hah
ANYWAYS. It's an enigma wrapped in a Mystery of Aaravos--*gets shot*
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thrandilf · 4 months
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TDP S6 Like
Viren: I quit dark magic. I've changed
Kpp’ar: had you listened to me all the way back then about this you could've skipped the war, dying, and having a love child with the devil
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konmaao3 · 7 months
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Meanwhile in Viren’s purse:
Runaan: My own mentee turned against me.
Kpp’Ar: Oh, yours too? What a ...
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my friend after I told them Viren coined his old mentor Kpp'ar too 😭
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toknowthatimatter · 9 months
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raayllum · 5 months
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The high mage office becomes a bit of a ramshackle, afterwards.
The first and most obvious reason is that, while spacious, it was only really meant to accommodate one mage and possibly an apprentice at a time—not three mages, piles of books and magical objects stacked ceilings high.
That, and the youngest of their little club has by far more clutter than Kpp'Ar or Viren ever did, the eldest mage thinks.
Callum is quick witted and talks too much, otherwise staying silent for hours, out of studiousness or bother, eyes hard whenever he looks at Viren.
His old apprentice is the most out of place, perhaps. Viren has forsaken dark magic, a path Kpp'Ar never thought possible, especially with what Viren had imprisoned him over. But Viren throws the books of dark arts only sour looks and dour frowns, reluctant to even touch them never mind read them. He and Claudia are alike in that way, Kpp'Ar supposes, seeing how they've grown side by side now as adults. They're no longer dark mages, but they refuse to try their hand at primal magic and arcanums, either.
For Claudia, Kpp'Ar thinks it is a lingering trace of stubbornness and pride. For Viren, it's likely fear—for if he can't connect, then he is shut off from magic forever. And if he can, then all the pain he caused and dark roads he took might've been avoided.
He helps out, mostly, running messages—taking letters to the rookery, labelling bottles, taking the messiness of Callum's notes that Kpp'Ar's eyesight is too poor to make out, and turning them into something coherent. Not unlike the work he'd done when he was an apprentice, if muted and with a hesitance rather than a persistent, desperate hunger.
And for the first time in a very long time, Kpp'Ar is a student.
Not officially, of course. Callum is the only official high mage among the three (or four) of them, and he's never taken on an apprentice before. Nor had he taken Kpp'Ar on when the old man had expressed a desire to learn primal magic—to see the world and his work again anew, with his unexpected second chance.
But you don't become a mage if you aren't observant, and intelligent, and driven, and able to learn at least a little from example. Kpp'Ar needles him about the arcanums he holds, which Callum is more than willing to spout nonsense about to someone, the nonsense gradually making more and more sense. Dark magic is about ingredients, the way machines are about gears and cogs. Primal magic is about connection, and cycles, a bridge, the same way a puzzle serves to be one: one for humans to solve from a Maker, whether that's magic or or the all forsaken All-Mother in Kpp'Ar's mind.
A puzzle he will, with gnarled fingers and a grizzled face, grasp one day with as much certainty as his jewelled cane.
Callum finds him one day, pouring over Earthblood tomes, and raises a brow and a cup of tea to his lips. "Didn't expect to find you in here so early."
"Shows you still have much to learn," Kpp'Ar mutters, turning the page. He squints, the candle growing dim.
Callum snaps and the flame sparks, emitting much more light. Some of his headache clears away. "If you're really set on an arcanum," Callum advises, jerking his head, "maybe think about the Sun."
Healing, vision, light.
Kpp'Ar eyes the candle.
"Perhaps," is all he says, and maybe he still has some pride of his own—he's more than double the boy's own age, after all, even with thirteen years lost to that accursed coin.
But then there are much worst things than taking advice—like taking the wrong advice.
That's another thing their little club has in common, he supposes.
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Layers and white lies: a Puzzle House takeaway
I'm not going to delve into too much detail on this amazing book here, but I will touch on a few themey, plotty things I saw and roll around in some angst for a while, so, behold, a cut for big ol' Puzzle House spoilers:
One of the clues that helps Claudia delve deeper into the Puzzle House - and the plot - is the little clue on the bottom of the lantern she picks up: some things are hidden in plain sight. And the deep angst and all of Kpp'Ar's intentions are some of them!
This story, like all of TDP's stories, is written to be understood at a certain level by children. And it is. But for us adults, if we slow down and study what's in front of us - another Claudia clue, which she advises Soren with - we can see more. (this works in the show too of course)
In this case, I'm seeing Kpp'Ar's entire plan - and why he abandoned it - and how it worked anyway.
There's the real angst. He set something in motion, and it became too big to stop on his own. And that's very much relevant to TDP's concept of the cycle too!
Okay, let's break down the situation Kpp'Ar found himself in:
Soren was very ill
Kpp'Ar was engaged with Viren in helping find a way to save him
Kpp'Ar knew about the power in unicorn horns
he captured a giant who was guarding a map scroll that could lead him to one
but then he realized he was not worthy to read its information, and instead of stopping to look at that, he pushed forward in a new direction
This is when things get a little dark.
When the fun cute carousel (that might be made of actual creatures turned to stone? did they all die for this performance?) carries Soren and Claudia deep into the tower, Soren sees the horrible traps and assumes he and his sister are off the planned track for their surprise. At one point he claims that what they're dealing with is literally too big for them.
He's right... but also, he isn't.
Follow the unicorns. That's what Kpp'Ar wanted Claudia to do.
They start on the lantern, and they're present on the balustrade right next to them. She was always supposed to pick up the lantern, remember the snap magic trick Kpp'Ar taught her, and head right up those stairs.
She was supposed to fail at the slide. She was supposed to find a different way to keep chasing what she wanted. Just like Kpp'Ar. When he closes a trap door, he opens a window? Sure.
Follow those unicorns, Claudia! Cutesy and bright, they led her all the way to the giant's prison. She was always supposed to push past the boundaries of "child-friendly" fun and go in there and read the map, so that her father and his mentor could go kill a unicorn for its horn, and then save Soren's life with it.
That was always the plan.
And it was always too big to just ask a child to do. So Kpp'Ar made it into puzzles for her. That way Viren could still save Soren's life, and Claudia would have fun and never be burdened with knowing what she was really doing.
She learned that trick, too, btw. Good job, Clauds.
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The hidden angst of what happened to Kpp'Ar is a little harder to see, but it's there too:
Kpp'Ar realized he was dragging Claudia into the same kinds of machinations he'd dragged Viren into
he'd known Viren for years and something in that arc gave Kpp'Ar pause
he could see what Viren couldn't (until S5) - that he was hurting Claudia's future despite her trust in him
something in Kpp'Ar broke, and he had a tantrum (like Viren in S2) and a big change of heart (took Viren 3 more seasons)
he gave Claudia those snake bracelets just before he vanished because he wanted her to free the giant
she'd still have to follow the unicorns to find him - she still might find and use the map - but he couldn't control that now, all he could hope for was that she would show compassion for the giant too
And she did, because she was pure of heart. Kpp'Ar helped set things right, with one of his final acts. But he'd already put into place a whole big plan to kill a unicorn, and there was no way to separate rescuing Kruha from aiding that plan in progressing forward. He had to take his hands off the wheel and trust someone else to do the right thing. He had to give up his need to control everything, and start to trust just a little.
Themey, innit.
What's interesting is that Viren gives no clear indication to anyone - Atticus, Claudia, us - that he's aware of this big puzzle Kpp'Ar made, or its goal. All he admits is that things are complicated and the Puzzle House is dangerous. Very on brand with those layers and white lies.
Couple possibilities:
Kpp'Ar knew Viren would not allow him to endanger Claudia, so he didn't tell him about it, and Viren didn't understand the full scope until after Claudia had seen the map - possibly several years later, shortly before Viren proposed his vengeance plan to Harrow
OR, Viren knew all along about the plan to use Claudia (and was willing to risk her life for Soren's), but it didn't matter anymore, because he'd already found another way to heal Soren - possibly with (some of?) Kpp'Ar's life force - so he played dumb with the map paper and only told Claudia to keep it safe for later
Since he couldn't read the map... I lean toward him knowing all along. Coining Kpp'Ar for having a change of heart - something anyone should be allowed to do at any time - certainly added to the darkening of Viren's heart, but surely he and Kpp'Ar tested the map and found that neither of them could read it before going to these lengths.
With the comments Kpp'Ar makes to Viren in his fever dream - which now might be partially... real? - it's very possible that Viren pushed for the whole thing, trying to save his son's life. Offered Claudia up, got Kpp'Ar to give her a book so she could start studying up on magic, and then lost his cool entirely when his mentor basically said Soren should die, and coined him for it.
And Claudia never knew a bit of that. Probably still doesn't!
I wonder if she'll interact with any Kpp'Ar details in future seasons!
Alright, that's my thoughts!
Puzzle House is possibly the theme-iest graphic novel we've gotten so far. It's themes all the way down. They reach down through the PH plot, into Claudia's onscreen tactics, and they reach up to the meta level with the way that The Dragon Prince approaches the entirety of the show itself.
There is something scary in the dark. But that doesn't mean we should run. It's always better to go slow, to have compassion, and to follow your heart.
Because sometimes the solutions are hiding in plain sight.
Thanks for reading
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xadian-daydreams · 8 months
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Kpp'Ar, the Staff of Ziard and why Lissa left.
This is really spoilerly for Puzzle House and the novels, so just gonna put most of this under a cut.
In short, I think the reason Viren coined Kpp'Ar and Lissa divorced Viren comes down his use of the Staff of Ziard.
In Puzzle House Kpp'Ar is researching unicorns, presumably for the Stars magic to heal Soren, who from Book: Moon novel/Puzzle House is confirmed to have a long term illness that affects his breathing, leaves him bedridden and eventually he becomes deathly ill.
But before a cure for Soren is found Kpp'Ar renounces dark magic and focuses on mechanisms and puzzles (specifically a surprise for Soren and Claudia inside his manor/Puzzle House).
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Viren refers to this as "the profligate tantrum [Kpp'Ar] called his repentance" in Book Sky. Kpp'Ar destroys a bunch of relics and spellbooks. One of the relics Kpp'Ar destroys is a copy of the bloodbinding ritual box;
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Most likely the potion Kpp'Ar used that caused this tantrum was the same one Viren uses the last dose of trying to figure out the mirror. Eyeless viper serum -handed down from the Oracles of Ophidia who existed before Elarion fell - which sees through the illusions of the world. It's the most powerful, and risky, anti-illusion spell they had access to. While it doesn't let Kpp'Ar see the map inside the scroll, it might have let him see through another long standing illusion - the Aaravos censoring spell.
Given that Kpp'Ar seems to have inherited stuff all the way down from Ziard and probably stuff from the Jailer, given their joint obsession with puzzles, most likely stuff from the mage king from events surrounding Aaravos' imprisonment too. (This mage king seems to be from Katolis, and presumably died during this war, resulting in Orphan Queen's deeds making her the new Queen). It seems likely that Kpp'Ar found out about a least some of Aaravos' plans and his relation to dark magic, which so horrified Kpp'Ar he immediately gives it up.
But if Kpp'Ar is cleansing his possessions of anything to do with Aaravos, than why is the Staff of Ziard still around?
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While Kpp'Ar has given up on dark magic, locating unicorns, and essentially curing Soren, Viren is still very desperate. Kpp'Ar and Viren are arguing - Claudia overhears them one time;
[Claudia] had snuck into Kpp'Ar's "puzzle house" and was hiding in one of the passages when she overheard the angry yelling. She could still hear her father shouting at Kpp'Ar, "I'll do anything to protect my family - however dangerous, however vile!" [Book: Sky novel]
During this time Viren uses the Staff to curse Kpp'Ar into a coin. What's notable is that we know from Callum's research into reversing the curse is that the Staff allows for use of Stars related dark magic - exactly what Kpp'Ar and Viren were looking for to cure Soren.
What if the Staff was some dangerous relic locked away for centuries that Viren claimed against Kpp'Ar wishes, possibly even tried to forbid Viren from using or Kpp'Ar was actively trying to destroy it. Which is why Viren coined Kpp'Ar - sadly, before Kpp'Ar could explain anything about Aaravos and why the Staff is so dangerous and vile.
Then Viren uses the Staff to cure Soren, essentially making a Faustian deal with Aaravos. Which is why Aaravos immediately decides to go ahead with the bloodbinding ritual as soon as he notices Viren is the wielder of the Staff. Viren has already agreed to go along with whatever the Staff's real (and as Kpp'Ar likely worded it, vile) purpose is.
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This healing spell wreaks Viren's appearance, causing massive amounts of corruption all at once.
After which the relationship between him and his wife, Lissa, becomes strained. Viren believes this is related to his destroyed appearance, but overlooks the fact he's still using the dangerous relic that wreaked him. Despite knowing it's dangerous - using it increases his power a lot. (Compare Viren's aspiro frigis when backed with a primal stone and the Staff to Callum's aspiro frigis when backed with just a primal stone. No contest). Viren doesn't want to give up this power and is likely ignoring Lissa's protests about it. Also, she might know about what he did to Kpp'Ar, which would be a thorny issue in itself.
And going from comments made by Callum in Callum's Spellbook, Viren's behaviour starts deteriorating at around this point. Though to fair, cursing your mentor would definitely count as crossing a moral event horizon.
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skywing-human · 9 months
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So, I translated this scene from Viren's nightmare
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Harrow just said:
Your soul is my treasure... your soul is my treasure.
Viren on the throne with Kpp'Ar at his side bowing, I understand, Viren wants respect, from the people, from his mentor. When he was king, he had some of that. Ok but the jelly tart? Sir Sparklepuff is it the jelly tart that viren likes? what does that mean? And Opeli holding a piece of wood like a baby is definitely a pun, but I don't speak English well, so it's hard for me.
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kradogsrats · 10 months
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like tbh I've always been kind of against the idea of Viren getting literally all of his random-ass shit from Kpp'Ar, and I generally HATE "these two vaguely similar characters must be related" theories, but I've accidentally halfway radicalized myself into a "Kpp'Ar is a descendant of the Jailer" truther with my stupid Kpp'Ar/"Keeper" joke and at that point point a collection of Aaravos paraphernalia is really a thing he would be more likely to have than not
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greenmoons · 9 months
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Is it just me or Claudia just got a map to where there are unicorns? So, it's basically her fault that Viren killed Avizandum? I know Viren said in season 3 episode 6 she is the one who brought him the unicorn horn. But I didn't think about that very much back then. But now, apparently planning for a decade her search for a unicorn? She is sixteen years old girl who went to look for a unicron by her own with a map she recieved a decade earlier. I know Claudia is the villain now, but she just reached to another new level without even knowing? I expect this graphic novel would just be something cute about Claudia and Soren as kids, helping us getting a break from the Claudia of the last seasons, but now I'm just mad at her because all of the events in the series are her fault! I know she probably didn't know what Viren planning to do with the horn and she probably thought she is bringing him the coolest present ever, but still.
I wonder if Kpp'ar also tried to kill Thunder and that why he tried to look at the scroll, but that means Atticus also wanted Thunder to be dead? He seems really good king, Harrow had the motive of Sarai's death but why Atticus would want it? I actually have more questions now then I had before.
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armchairaleck · 9 months
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Twin Peaks/Dragon Prince thoughts
Okay so I was never going to write a post that combined two of my sorta diametric interests - namely The Dragon Prince cartoon and Twin Peaks, even tho I've low key considered it.. but then they literally put out a fricken dream scene with Viren, Kpp’Ar, Sparklepuff and Opeli explicitly mirroring Twin Peaks.. so now I guess I will ramble on for a long time about this despite not really having anything sensible to say…
First up – massive spoilers are ahead for both Twin Peaks and TDP Season 5… Twin Peaks is in my view one of the most weird and interesting television shows ever made - like it's very David Lynch, so I guess you'd have to like that vibe - BUT if you haven’t seen it and are at all interested in watching it, and don’t want very essential plot elements spoilt please don’t read below this cut.. IT WILL SPOIL STUFF!
Not sure anyone will be left at this point, but a very condensed speed run of the twin peaks plot for the sake of drawing out some parallels later:
Laura Palmer is found murdered in her small home town where a veritable list of ner do well characters who are possible suspects also reside. Call in special agent Dale Cooper to solve the crime, so far, so police procedural…
This is when the plot starts to go a little left field - as well as the drug smuggling, illegal casino, insurance swindles, arson, doubling crossing, false murders, real murders, faked deaths, real deaths that are just part of everyday life in this quaint little rural US town, a portal exists to a place called the red room or the waiting room and to the white and black lodges which by and large represent forces of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ and hold within them certain denizens who might help or hinder, or just be completely bizarre and unintelligible depending on their inclinations...
One of the evil denizens is Bob - Bob is pretty much the representation of pure evil, he possesses people and encourages them to fill his own base desires.
After a certain amount of investigation the original crime is solved, the presence of Bob and the lodges is revealed and the show gets a whole lot weirder as it moves through the rest of the second series and the third (set 25 years later)
At the end of season 2 the good Dale Cooper goes into the red room and gets stuck in there while an identical version of Cooper emerges but this one not so wholesome and possessed by Bob.
There’s a lot more to it, but I’ll get into the relevant points and possible, tho probably very tentative TDP parallels as they come up.
Anyway to break it down.. in the short scene we see we have Kpp’Ar - here I believe framed mirroring the role of the one armed man, Mike, he could also be framed as the giant theoretically but given the arm/bandage motif I’m going to say he’s the one armed man..
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The one armed man used to run with Bob until he saw the light and changed his ways, and he cut off his arm to do this a little drastic perhaps? because he had a tattoo on the arm that linked him to Bob. So a possible parallel here to Kpp’Ar having also realised his dark magic/blood tie with an ancient evil entity and trying to rid himself of it through cutting it out of his arm, go, go my guy. The one armed man acts as one of several pretty obtuse guides for good Cooper in the show.
Will Kpp’Ar come back and do this for Viren? Eh probably not, I can’t even speculate on that sort of thing, so let’s leave that parallel there.
Right, Sir Sparklepuff also gets a little cameo as the the arm/the man from another place.. a cryptic clue giver who speaks unintelligibly and also has some natty dance moves..
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So the arm is a fairly ambiguous character, he hangs with the evil denizens, he hangs in the waiting room, he helps, or he doesn’t, it’s pretty vague.. he is the part that was cut out to remove the evil influence, but I’m not sure where that could go if anywhere… Onto Viren, who is framed taking the role of FBI agent Dale Cooper, Cooper goes into the red room for good reasons, he wants to save his girlfriend Annie… unfortunately he doesn’t and instead he gets stuck in there while his doppelganger possessed by Bob escapes and goes on to run merry havoc for the next 25 years…
Bad Cooper is a corrupted figure who can give corpse face Viren a run for his money annnd… he also has black eyes… nice…
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This is just how your eyes go when you're evil.. so err.. stay good kids
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On the other hand it does look like you have a lot more fun going feral
Meanwhile the good version of Cooper has to escape from the waiting room, and trust me, it takes a long time…
Then we have Opeli as the log lady.. now the log lady, also called Margaret Lanterman, we are given to believe was once abducted as a child by aliens (there’s a pretty strong interest in conspiracy type stuff in twin peaks without it ever completely leaning in and going there, well I guess it does, let’s just say there are a lot of things beneath the surface) Margaret grows up just fine though, but on the eve of her wedding night to a fireman there is a fire in the woods, and hubby to be goes and gets himself killed fighting the flames. Margaret takes a log from the scene and caries it round with her ever after with it being heavily implied that the spirit/soul of her almost husband is in there and passes her messages with regards to some of the goings on in the town.
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Hey Opeli guess what? Rayla's breaking into Viren's study... ahem..
Like anyway why did Opeli get this role? I have no idea, she's the only available female character?? Anyway Opeli says backwards the line - the jelly tart you like is going to come back in style.. the log lady does not say this in the show, but there is a pivotal scene where all the murder suspects in the Laura Palmer case are gathered together and the guilty party is approached by a white lodge denizen and told that gum you like is going to come back in style.. that's how they find out whodunnit.
So the premise of Twin Peaks is that the guilty party is also shown to be possessed by evil entity Bob and it raises some interesting questions within the fandom regarding an individual’s culpability for their crimes or whether the possession was the root cause of them and I feel like I can’t really dance around it anymore so I will say again if this show sounds interesting and you want to watch it unspoiled with regards to the murder STOP READING HERE.. also I will be going onto the darker themes of the show and you are warned they are kinda dark…
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Right okay it was her father, Laura’s father, Leyland, possessed by Bob raped and abused her for several years and then murdered her and others when it became clear she knew it was him.
Now every time Laura was abused in the show she sees the face of Bob not her father. There is debate whether this is trauma projection, whether it is in fact evil entity Bob controlling the father’s actions… I mean there’s a lot of interesting stuff to go into, but I won’t, because I only want to look at the possession angle here.
Okay, onto the topic of possession and free will, specifically with regards to Viren and also dark mages in general.. so we have seen Aaravos possess Callum explicitly, based on one use of dark magic, whether he was able to do this due to Callum’s proximity to the mirror... not sure? He also possesses Viren very obviously on a couple of occasions, but they also have the blood tie... so it's likely that dark magic allows Aaravos to exert his influence on those who practise it as has been explored by others.
Anyway there is another factor I have kinda been low key wondering about - whether the staff of Ziard has certain possession/persuasion potential.. now I’m not going to come out and say the staff holds sway over Viren and tells him what to do because this puts a certain absolution on Viren’s actions that I don’t think is justified by the narrative BUT I do also think it would be kinda cool if Aaravos with his links to the stars and future predictions had a way of seeing what might happen and engineering his own deliverance through the push/pull of the staff.
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Not betting any hard cash on this theory...
We don’t know when Viren first gets the staff, I have to re-watch that dream sequence and possibly wait for puzzle house because I have at least some thoughts it might be what Claudia finds in there.. but he doesn’t have it in the Puzzle House pages I’ve seen and he does before Magma Titan because he takes it with him..
So... I don’t know if there is a slim possibility that while the staff might not possess a mage it might subtly lead them towards an end goal - slaying an archdragon say, who holds the mirror window into Aaravos’s prison, and thereby allowing the dark mage to come into possession of said mirror and thereby setting the whole train of freeing Aaravos in motion..
Now fine, this is a bit of a stretch, could easily be Viren is simply fuelled by his desire to kill a dragon out of revenge/hubris a desire to rekindle his relationship with Harrow (ahem) but I kinda like the idea that there is a very subtle pull leading him in that direction through the staff, and Aaravos does at least seem pleased to notice that staff in his possession, while Viren visibly shies from it throughout much of s4…
This could mirror a little with the possession/influence themes of Twin Peaks - there is a ‘good’ Cooper and a ‘bad’ Cooper, but they are really the same Cooper and it is the flaws in the good that allow for the evil influence of the bad to take hold - Cooper has a weakness for trying to save women in peril, it gets him in trouble… Viren seems to have a weakness for power and doing anything for his family, however dangerous, however vile - personally I don’t really like to read stuff purely in terms of a good/bad white/black dichotomy.. but I do like character flaws leading to the wrong path and imperilling your soul.
This all inclines me towards the Aaravos is pure evil and the Prometheus and even Lucifer stuff was just a bit of a tease. In Twin Peaks the unleashing or at least the amplification of evil in the world is linked very explicitly in one episode to the dropping of the atomic bomb, this is framed as a cataclysmic event during which mankind press the button on their own potential annihilation...
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s3 episode 8 - I don't think will ever be surpassed for am I hallucinating or is there something very weird on my tv at 4am vibes
I know there have been some links between dark magic and nuclear power parallels made by other people but I can’t remember the details and it has always been something I’ve kinda chewed around a bit without having any specific thoughts or beliefs on, other than ouch corruption looks a lot like radiation burns… but I can see an analogy for something that is created to both serve humanity giving us a fairly unlimited power source, while also giving us the ability to pretty much obliterate ourselves and the planet which - tbh best not to think about how close that has already been...
Dark magic is clearly a force that can be used to benefit humanity, healing, feeding 100,000 people etc, etc.. but it is also being lined up as something that holds its own peril, that probably isn’t a power to be wielded by inconsistent, unreliable and sleep deprived humans, and it’s been given to them by Aaravos? Like I think that has not yet been explicitly stated in cannon but the signs are all there.. so hmmm..
Anyway all told this has led me down quite a few lines of thinking that I don’t really have any definitive conclusions for because they are by definition not issues that can be neatly tied up with a bow... at least not by me.
Then Viren is pretty much comatose for the rest of the season much like Coop/Dougie is season 3 of Twin Peaks.. rip my guy...
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Viren having the standard reaction of anyone trying to work out wtf is going on in Twin Peaks
Anyway I have never seen any fellow Twin Peaks fans out in the Dragon Prince wilds, but if you’re out there please come and rip this to shreds if you want.. I have a sieve like memory and I’m usually pretty wrong about most stuff, plus I wrote this after 4 hours sleep due to the drop time, sooo please excuse any mistakes...
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stickypersonaharmony · 6 months
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I'm genuinely confused as to how Callum saying "I would do anything for you" is supposed to be some creepy parallel to Viren.
When we first met Viren, he wasn't the "I would do anything for you" guy. He was the "if you have to choose, choose the egg" guy. His children (Soren in particular) were just sacrificial pawns, whether he was willing to admit that or not. He and Callum couldn't be more different.
And I can already see the incoming counterargument: "That moment showed that Viren started out like Callum before his motives were corrupted by dark magic."
Which would make sense if we hadn't already known that this wasn't the beginning of Viren's journey. This was:
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So, the moment Viren declares "I would do anything for my son" didn't happen at the beginning of his journey, it happened way after he was already a seasoned practitioner. Not only does this show Viren never had any qualms with using dark magic like Callum does, but it shows what he did must have been much worse than a simple chains-to-snakes spell. We can guess what that entailed since it probably involved coining his mentor...
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"One after the other" hmmm what a coincidence! Anyway, comparing Callum to Viren is like comparing shoplifting to armed robbery. "Stretch" doesn't begin to cover it.
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konmaao3 · 9 months
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But what if Kpp’Ar wanted to say something? 🥲
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