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masonscig · 1 year

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Writer Rant: Am I the only one who finds it kind of strange how many people are complaining about how the detective didn't have a choice but to join the agency? Like I totally get thinking its too soon (I personally expected it in book 4 at least, so I have no issue with the opinion it should have happened later in the series) but there's been multiple posts I've seen of people saying they're upset that choice was forced upon them/the 'no' option didn't work, and I'm kind of wondering what they expected? Idk I feel like there's this growing trend in the IF/COG community where people are mad that they can't go completely against the status quo of the story, but like...there's a difference between taking away choices for the protag/taking control out of the players hands and some plots just *needing* to happen in order for the story to proceed as intended, especially when they relate directly to the protag and their environment and not a mostly offscreen situation like the aftermath of whether Sanja survives/the treaty is signed in Book 2.

The detective being a full time agent is a major development and would effect most if not every agency/station related scene going forward - if saying no was a legitimate option that carried over as a major choice, Mishka would basically have to write a second version of each subsequent book to account for the differences until they finally join. Not allowing that to be an option isn't taking away the players choice because it was *never* a choice to begin with, its a set part of the plot already. I get the frustration of it maybe not being the most in character, but the author in me wants to scream that it's not on the author to adapt their story to fit each OC every time, especially when that OC is made to intentionally break what 'should' be happening. For all the legitimate criticism about book 3 that I've seen, this is the one that I genuinely Do Not Understand unless there's just a lot of folks in the fandom without experience writing longer, connective works, because they either don't recognize or respect just *how much* would have to change going forward based on that one call.

i completely get where you're coming from, i really do, but i have to disagree with some points here

i think that the reason people are upset is because mis/hka has like. stripped the agency (haha no pun intended) from the mc but it doesn't quite feel as intentional as she wanted it to be – (idk if i'm explaining correctly bc it makes sense in my head) let's say you're playing with an mc that has little to no agency points, they've fucked up majorly at every stat check (murphy got away, sanja died, falk didn't sign the treaty, falk was hostile, fucked up at the auction), and they're scared of supernaturals? in what world would that qualify the mc for an agency position?

if you're thinking "okay well, maybe it's because the agency is trying to keep a close watch on the mc" – okay, well, mis/hka isn't going to flesh out the idea of the agency being evil or even explicitly morally grey. she's said herself in asks before that the agency are the "good guys" (i don't feel like looking for it lmao if you do, godspeed. there's a lot of asks to sift through) – so the choice just doesn't make sense unless she's been playing the absolute longest con and they'll be revealed to be the true antagonists in the end.

if they are, i'll record myself a jean jacket with no sauce :) xoxo

but like others have said before, mis/hka is writing this series as a utopia of sorts – the mc is a fucking cop, working for a federal agency. and they're presented as the good guys. that alone means that any weird things that they do are going to be pushed aside and blamed on an "individual" rather than the "structure" itself, if that makes sense. (an option available towards the end of book 3 depending on what route you're on is being able to erase bobby's memories if they find out about supernaturals. a cop? possibly forcibly suppressing a journalist? yeah. no thought put into that option.)

what i'm getting at is, she's stripping the choice to join the agency from the mc's who don't want it, and similarly, from what she's shown us, it's not going to amount to anything, because she doesn't seem to criticize any of the systems she's established in a larger sense outside of the mc's dialogue. so if that doesn't matter, then what are the mc's working towards? <- this is a rhetorical question, food for thought if you will LMAO

sorry this is all over the place, but to tie it all back together, i think that yes, if your oc doesn't fit the universe, i completely agree – you can't blame the author for not fulfilling every fantasy you have about the series – but similarly, i think that if mis/hka is giving us the option to make mc's who are untrustworthy of the agency, it's her job to follow through with that to some degree. and that means not just pandering to mcs that love their job, love being a cop, love supernaturals, love the agency, always pass stat checks, etc.

all of my thoughts are based on things she's said about her own story, and how i think that contradicts some ideas she may be unintentionally setting up.

but again, i totally get where ur coming from – branching stories are difficult, i just think that if you're going to offer options in a story, then choices should matter, and they feel like they don't in b3. i get that things need to happen in order for the story to progress, but some of these choices the mc is able to make feels like dead ends? like it's not going anywhere

#sorry for the very long ramble – it's unedited i was just typing out my feelings and it turned into a big thing #this has been the point of the story i've been most interested to see how it plays out even moreso than the romances #bc like. if the c*ps and f*deral agents are good people then. what is the future of this story gonna hold LMAO #again this is unedited just word vomit LMAO #asks #twc book 3 #twc book 3 spoilers #twc b3 spoilers #long post

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rafaelblackbird15 · 3 years

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Teen Wolf Fic Recs Part 2: Steter

It took me quite awhile to gather all these together, so please enjoy discovering more parts to the incredible world of Teen Wolf, provided to you by the wonderful writers of our fandom.

Leave comments and kudos for these writers if you can, they really deserve it, they're wonderful. And it's my honour to try and share their creations with tumblr.

These are Steter, Stiles Stilinski/Peter Hale fanfictions. Read them at your will. Check the tags on the actual fics for warnings and such.

I have included links to authors that write a lot of Steter as well, and some of their fics for examples. I'm sorry this post got so long, haha, but enjoy the stories, they're worth it.

If any of the links don't work, just comment and I'll fix it.

Check out my other Sterek fic recs [Part 3] and [Part 4] and Steter fic recs [Part 1]

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Broken Bones and Broken Bonds by twothumbsandnostakeincanon(somanyofthekids) on Archive of Our Own

Words: 20148

Chapters: 4/?

Summary:

Stiles kind of wished that he’d at least tried weed before this.

Or something, you know? Maybe taken up a graffiti hobby, or even just skateboarded in front of City Hall often enough to get a citation.

He wished he’d done something to be deserving of the looks people gave him now, rather than just being the recipient of his dead father’s unused power.

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Stigmata by twothumbsandnostakeincanon (somanyofthekids) on Archive of Our Own

Words: 1661

Chapters: 1/1

Summary:

He feels so hollow that he almost wonders if he's been turned inside out. This emptiness he feels; is it the vastness of the entire world?

How do you fill a world? With people, he supposes. But his people no longer want him.

He needs people.

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Beefcake Mountain by twothumbsandnostakeincanon(somanyofthekids) on Archive of Our Own

Words: 14565

Chapters: 7/7

Summary:

Shortly after moving back to Beacon Hills, the left hand of the Hale Pack opened a text from a mysterious number.

"Is there a mirror in your pants? Because I can see myself in them."

What the f—

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Steter Week 2019 by twothumbsandnostakeincanon(somanyofthekids)

Works: 4

Complete: No

Summary:

There isn't a summary listed so I've included the first fic underneath:

Marvelous Miss and Magnificent Mischief by twothumbsandnostakeincanon(somanyofthekids)

Words: 3346

Chapters: 1/1

also Part 1 of the Magnificent Mischief series

Summary:

“Marvelous Miss and the Magnificent Mischief!” the carnival barker shouted just outside the corridor with all the food tents. “Come see Miss Paige do amazing tricks with her talking raven! He not only speaks, but he jokes! He teases! He philosophizes!”

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Author: twothumbsandnostakeincanon(somanyofthekids)

This author has a lot of wonderful Steter fics, and their writing of the pairing is really worth having a good look through.

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Blood Runs Cold by Smalls2233 on Archive of Our Own

Words: 111408

Chapters: 22/22

Summary:

“So then why are we letting Scott and Derek search for it if you know it's useless?”

Peter looked down at Stiles and cocked his head with a grin. “Because I think seeing my nephew and your best friend run around like headless chickens while I think up a plan is hysterical.”

“And the plan is…?”

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Trusting Peter Hale is something that Stiles had repeatedly told himself to never do. He had seen first hand the results of Peter's plans and schemes, but when a shadow began tormenting Beacon Hills, he found that sometimes he'd have to to play along with Peter's games.

This story does include a dose of Chris&Stiles interaction about midway and carries on throughout, and then Chris/Peter towards the midend, which also carries on. And it kind of dissolves into Chris/Peter/Stiles. If that's not your taste, that's fine, because the majority of the story is Stiles/Peter, and that majority is really really good Steter.

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No One Listening Tonight by Smalls2233

Words: 6985

Chapters: 1/1

Summary:

That left… well it left Peter and only Peter. Relying on Peter for help was only slightly better than stabbing himself through the eye with a hot poker. But desperate times called for desperate measures.

Of course, there was always the option of packing up and letting whatever was trying to destroy the town succeed this time. Stiles snorted under his breath as he thought about how that would probably leave him with fewer injuries than dealing with Peter would. But unfortunately, that wasn’t an option. Stiles knew he needed to head downtown to Peter’s apartment and pray the man was willing to work with him.

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Stiles stumbles into a magical trap forged by a wannabe warlock.

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Author: Smalls2233

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Blue by Wynnebat on Archive of Our Own

Words: 3179

Chapters: 2/2

Summary:

Derek brings both Scott and Stiles to the hospital to prove a point about hunters, but Stiles isn’t sure the point he’s getting is the point Derek’s trying to make. Especially when his black and white world explodes into color the moment he looks into Peter Hale’s eyes.

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The Long Way Around by Wynnebat on Archive of Our Own

Words: 15569

Chapters: 3/3

Summary:

When Peter leaves Beacon Hills for good, he expects that to be it for the broken bonds of the last remaining members of the Hale pack. Fate and Stiles Stilinski aren’t of the same opinion.

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Prowl by Wynnebat on Archive of Our Own

Words: 3454

Chapters: 1/1

Summary:

Laura's body is never found, but instead of continuing with his murder spree, Peter gets distracted by the scent of his mate. Stiles gets very distracted by the huge wolf that starts showing up at his house all the time.

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Author: Wynnebat

This author writes some really interesting, deep stories about Steter that are really beautiful.

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your last white lie (everything is not alright) by snowdarkred on Archive of Our Own

Words: 4023

Chapters: 1/1

Summary:

Stiles says yes, and things go downhill from there.

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reflect by snowdarkred on Archive of Our Own

Words: 569

Chapters: 1/1

Part 1 of the dig your teeth in and tear until you taste (peter/stiles oneshots) series

Summary:

(previously posted to tumblr)

When he dreams, he can sometimes still hear his mother’s voice, explaining it to him: Reflections are the price we pay for what we are.

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sentire by snowdarkred on Archive of Our Own

Words: 1027

Chapters: 1/1

Part 2 of the dig your teeth in and tear until you taste (peter/stiles oneshots) series

Summary:

[to feel]

Stiles hears the whisper of death before it strikes.

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Author:

snowdarkred

This author writes some really intense, interesting stories about Peter and Stiles. Not as long as some fics are, but they're really good adaptions of Steter with a lot of feeling.

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The Striking Complication by aurevell on Archive of Our Own

Words: 27235

Chapters: 4/15

Summary:

The smile slips off Stiles’s face. “Hey, um. Why am I here?” he asks, voice unsteady. “I’m—I have this weird feeling like I shouldn’t leave you. I’ve felt all day like...” He can’t finish the thought.

Peter looks as surprised as Stiles feels. A strange expression passes over his face, there and gone before Stiles can decipher it.

Stiles snaps awake each morning with the sense that he’s missing something. Weirder still, he can’t wrap his head around his sudden, inexplicable trust in Peter Hale, who seems to know way more than he’s letting on. Nor can he guess why a half-remembered nightmare seems to haunt his every move.

Rinse and repeat. Because time loops suck, apparently.

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Author: aurevell

This author has 11 Teen Wolf fics under their belt. 5 Sterek and 6 Steter. Happy rummaging!

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the teeth right down to the blood by sazzafraz on Archive of Our Own

Words: 2133

Chapters: 1/1

Summary:

‘We’re pretty fucked right now.’ Scott says. Stiles doesn’t speak but there’s something singing in his bones that says Scott got the message anyway. (In which both are bit and things are gruesome.)

This has a sprinkling of Scott/Stiles, Scott/Stiles/Peter, and Scott/Allison as well as Steter, but it's worth the read, a good story with an interesting concept.

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Author: sazzafraz

This author doesn't have that many Steter stories, although they do have a few. Although they do have some pretty lengthy Teen Wolf fics about other characters of the show.

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Everything goes (wow) by midmorning_bomb on Archive of Our Own

Words: 8215

Chapters: 5/5

Part 1 of the Aranea & Babewolf series

Summary:

It was supposed to go like this:

1. Peter summons demon to the circle.

2. Demon remains in said circle until Peter outlines their contract.

3. Demon agrees to elegantly crafted contract, becoming loyally bound to Peter and Peter alone.

Instead, the creature steps casually out of the circle, tosses its things onto the leather sofa, and starts immediately meddling in Peter’s immaculate space, touching all of Peter’s very expensive things.

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It's only by midmorning_bomb on Archive of Our Own

Words: 2905

Chapters: 3/5

Part 2 of the Aranea & Babewolf series

Summary:

“Darling, please don’t pout.”

“You’re pouting.” Stiles pouts, from the upper corner of the library, everything from his hip bones down an angry mass of hissing fangs and venomous chelicerae. “Why would we ever go back to that garbage town? Everyone there is the worst, the only good thing is the very rad and awesome curse I laid.”

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You are a memory by midmorning_bomb on Archive of Our Own

Words: 900

Chapters: 1/1

Part 2 of the Little glimpse series

Summary:

If he has to bleed to breathe warmth back into Peter’s icy body, he will.

Because Peter’s done the same for him.

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Author: midmorning_bomb

This author has 16 Steter fics. A little unfriendly to some of the other characters, but it's only kind of obvious because it's not subtle about it, and not exactly underserved. Has some really interesting ideas as well as some kind, well developed Steter. Definitely have a read through.

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cheryls-blossomed · 3 years

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A lot of production went into that scene with Barry and Iris. It even has the lightning strike at the end of it that usually occurs after every episode, so it would have been a nice scene to end 7.03. There's no way they would put all of that production with the candles, setting, music, etc if they had in mind to delete it all along. That is the weirdest take I've ever seen. I know the tweets that anon is talking about, but I won't embarrass who they are from on here. It's tempting to give their name, but I won't.

It's just sad that I've seen that particular westallen shipper and a few others who gaslight the rest of us by saying stuff like that or that rumor that Candice must have been sick when she was absent in a few episodes or that Eric writes the best reporter Iris/westallen scenes. The takes I've seen to make it seem like this man is any better than the previous showrunners make me roll my eyes all the way back into my head. He gets way too much credit for the barest of minimums. So weird.

It's almost unfathomable to me that someone would say that that scene was written with the intention that it was going to be deleted? Like scripts go through several edits before an episode even goes into production, until the script is ready for production. All the scenes that the writers want in the episode make it to the final script, and then it's up to the directors how to direct a scene and obviously how to edit the episode, along with the EP. That Westallen scene was filmed in its entirety. That scene was not put into the final script with the intention that it was going to be deleted; frankly, I don't know how anybody could come to such an absurd conclusion, becaue it just doesn't make sense from a television production perspective at all. And I am the first person to admit that my knowledge of television production is limited at best, but even I know that this doesn't make sense at all from a production perspective. Direction and production takes work, so for a scene to be filmed, that means that the writers want that scene in the episode.

At the end of the day, once a scene is filmed, whether it makes it to air or is cut is up to the director and ultimately the showrunner, as the producer's cut is the final cut that makes it to air. The showrunner has the last say, ultimately. Regarding Eric, I honestly don't want to get into this too much, because people feel very strongly either way about his tenure as showrunner so far, and I genuinely have opinions that are not as strong as other people's. I think Eric is a far, far, far better boss than his predecessors, because he's made integral changes, related to safety of the cast that I think are really important, and because I think he's really the first showrunner to listen to Candice's concerns behind the scenes. So for the changes he's made behind the scenes, I do think he is a good boss. However, as showrunner, I don't think it's objectively arguable that he's written the best reporter arcs for Iris, because he quite frankly has not. We're still waiting for her major journalism arc, which we still have not got. I don't like comparing showrunners, because Eric's predecessors include Todd, who has proven to be a real asshole from what we've heard behind the scenes of S&L and AJK, a sexual predator and who is absolutely the worst showrunner this show has ever had. I just don't think it's fair at all to Eric to compare him to these people. But I also think that people have to stop shutting down criticism of Eric's showrunning of the show. I'm tired of people claiming that legitimate criticism and concerns are equal to constantly hating on Eric, which is not true at all. I fully acknowledge the much-needed changes Eric has made to the set; equally, I don't agree with a lot of the choices that he makes narratively and in terms of structuring the show. I don't agree with his choice to frequently sideline Iris's journalism and the Citizen, instead opting for story-lines which inflict a great deal of trauma onto Iris.

#anonymous #replies

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rissynicole · 6 years

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Writer issues nobody brings up #2; Show Don't Tell, and Fluff. I've been told by many people that fluff isn't good because it expands your work with useless padding, and that's true, yes. BUT on the other side of the spectrum, I've seen Show Don't Tell, and this is where things get weird. If you "show" too much it turns into Fluff anyway, but if you don't show enough, that also becomes a problem. TL;DR I DON'T GET WHY HELL EXISTS WHEN WE DIE, SINCE WRITING IS HELL WHEN WE'RE ALIVE ANYWAY xD

Show Don’t Tell: a techniqueused in various kinds of texts to allow the reader to experience the storythrough action, words, thoughts, senses, and feelings rather than through theauthor’s exposition, summarization, and description.

Ibelieve in Show Don’t Tell to an extent… my writing style naturally tends to gravitate aroundthat... descriptiveness that Show Don’t Tell boasts uponutilizing, though. I love to use both an atrociousamount of adjectives and commas and I often have to reel myself in before thesentences get TOO rambly. Therefore, Show Don’t Tell was never a terriblydifficult practice for me to follow. (In fact, it’s always been a bit of the opposite for me.) Sometimes it can be helpful, though, especially ifyou’re the type of writer who enjoys getting straight to the point, butstruggles with painting a mental picture for the reader.

I’vealways considered Show Don’t Tell to refer more to individual actions insteadof actual scenes. For example, instead of “Dib looked at Zim nervously,”I might write “Dib shot a fleeting, wide-eyed glance in Zim’s direction.” See?You know Dib is nervous, but I didn’t come right out and tell you he was. Iused some body language to show it. So I wouldn’t necessarily compare Show Don’tTell to fluff, though they do seem remarkably similar at first glance. Flufffeels more like actual scenes packed full of rambling that just goes nowhere…

Regardless,though, I wouldn’t take Show Don’t Tell to heart as the “be all, end all,”secret to writing. Keep your voice as the author. Make your own good judgments.Sometimes scenes DO require you to give a little exposition or explain what’sgoing on in a blunt manner. It’s all just the writer’s discretion!

FluffWriting: writing that has extra unnecessary details that often make the readersbore and dull…

Yeah, this is Google’s “official,”description of fluff. I have some opinions…

To me, it feels more like scenes that aren’t intended to drivethe plot forward, but can relieve some tension after a particularly angsty passage.By applying it, you’re giving your characters (and the readers) a break. I like to use it as a sort of “red herring,” too. I tend to write dramatic stories with some rathercomplicated plots, but anyone who has read my work knows I also like to sneak somecutesy, fluffy bits in the chapters from time to time. Particularly with Gir! MANYof his scenes verge on that side of the spectrum. But, honestly, it’s neverentirely pointless. Gir can be used as a major foil for both Zim and Dib and shedsome major light on their characters as a result. Therefore, character development can be disguised with what readers may originally perceive as “fluff.”

Jeez. This has been the most difficult askso far… I described what these two things are, how I use them in my own writing, and my opinions on both. I say, just write the way only YOU can. Don’t take every piece of writing advice to heart. Because I certainly disagree with some opinions on fluff. And I don’t always adhere to Show Don’t Tell either. Yourstyle comes first. Your story comes first. And more than anything, your individualityas a writer comes first. Some of us have unique ways to present things and it’sneither right nor wrong.

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