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darklinaforever · 2 months
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I am convinced that there must be a story between Lilith and Eve, and probably even an identity exchange between the latter at certain times. Why, how, and when, I don't know, but I am convinced that in all cases, there was an exchange !
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Here are the official character cards from the hazbin hotel games :
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Lilith's seems quite strange. First, the card supposed to represent Lilith does not contain the name Morningstar compared to her daughter and her husband. Of course, this may seem like a simple little detail, but I am convinced that it is not insignificant.
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Second, Lilith's haircut and figure (or at least assumed Lilith...), not to mention the smile she displays, are much more similar to the depiction of Eve in the introduction to Hazbin Hotel than to that of Lilith.
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And on top of that, a crucial detail, Lilith's face is absent (even though we know it very well, a strange choice), beckoning as if to keep a secret. And once again, she has almost the same smile as Eve in the introduction to Hazbin Hotel and just like Eve, her face is absent. And when else is Lilith's face missing in Hazbin Hotel ? Episode 5, absolutely.
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And removing Lilith's face doesn't really make sense, since once again we know it and we even see it in the episode through numerous portraits. Well, it doesn't really make sense, unless it's to point out that something is wrong with her. And once again, the silhouette looks much more like that of Eve than of Lilith.
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All this may seem trivial but I am convinced once again that it is not ! To drive the point home, the Hazbin Hotel Twitter account published a photo showing us a little better the two portraits that we were able to see in episode 5 located in Lucifer's office, with a message explicitly saying that the devil is in the details and to look a little closer at the two portraits of the Morningstar family.
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And what can we learn from these two paintings concerning Lilith ? She has her eyes open to one, but not to the other (I will also add that we do not see Lilith's eyes in the beach scene, since they are camouflaged by sunglasses). She is very close to her family on one and more withdrawn on the other. She wears her wedding ring on her left hand on one and her left hand is not visible on the other. Another small detail being that Lilith's left hand was also not visible during the flashback of episode 5.
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Probably many will think I'm crazy, but I'm convinced that whatever is happening with Lilith, it must have something to do with Eve and that they must have swapped places probably several times for various reasons. Maybe it's not really Lilith we saw at the end of season 1, who knows. But even if it's her, there must be a reason she's here. I doubt that she simply abandoned her husband and daughter overnight to become the real big bad as many theorize. After all, Lilith has literally been with Lucifer since their fall to Hell and lived a family life with him and a visibly happy Charlie from the portraits. So it probably stayed for thousands of years before suddenly mysteriously disappearing for seven years. Also, all this crazy stuff that a lot of people have saying that Lilith is bad because she kept Charlie away from Lucifer… from the portraits it looks like bullshit. Lucifer obviously had his own insecurities regarding his daughter, no point blaming Lilith for that. Especially since, regardless of whether it was Lilith or Eve in the flashback of episode 5, she simply seemed to bring Charlie back to bed damn it ! Don’t hesitate to give me your opinions in comments !
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sinner-sunflower · 2 months
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A HH Lucifer-centric AU 1/22
PART 2, PART 3, PART 4, PART 5, PART 6, PART 7, PART 8, PART 9, PART 10, PART 11, PART 12, PART 13, PART 14, PART 15, PART 16, PART 17, PART 18, PART 19, PART 20, PART 21, PART 22
STORY 2 - Sequel
Some RadioApple undertones perhaps.
Another idea popped up but I still can't write fully alksjdakljl
I swear this has more plot to it. It will involve the Sins, Luci's siblings, and overlords.
Big idea. Little vocab.
Will link a part 2 when I post it!
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The Hazbin Hotel residents stare in fear as the young Morningstar is having an ugly, one-sided, verbal match with her father.
It has been a stressful day and Charlie was on a short fuse. Vaggie tried to coax her girlfriend to relax but it didn't work. The other residents, minus Alastor, were too afraid to try because if Vaggie couldn't, how could they.
Lucifer was up on his tower when he was called downstairs to get his daughter to calm down but it just made him the primary target for her frustrations.
Charlie: Dad! Stop! I don't need this. I. Am. Fine.
Lucifer: Sweetie, you clearly aren't. Why don't you take a nap? I know that always helped you to calm down.
Charlie: Know?! Tell me, Dad. What exactly do you know about me after not being present in my life for decades??
Lucifer, stunned: Char-char-
Charlie: Don't call me that!
Vaggie: Charlie, I think-
Charlie: I wish it was you who had just got up and disappeared instead of Mom. At least she would've been there for me from the start!
There was a small gasp from Angel but no one dared to make a sound. What can they even say to that? All that can be heard is Charlie's labored breathing.
Lucifer's eyes narrow and his heart breaks a little (liar, the whole just shattered) but he doesn’t say anything. His shoulders slump, eyes void as his gaze never leaves his daughter.
Charlie seems to realize what she had just said and opens her mouth to say something but nothing comes out.
Lucifer: Of course
The King of Hell says it slowly, almost like he's drunk. (But he can't get drunk. Believe him, he tried. He tried multiple times to drink himself to-
Lucifer: But you're exhausted and I'm sure Alastor can pick up where you left off. Go sleep.
The King gives a strained smile to the group then promptly goes back upstairs.
Once he's gone. Charlie moves to follow but is stopped by Alastor blocking her way.
Alastor: I wouldn't try that, my dear. I suggest you listen to your father and rest. Separately.
Charlie: But-
Angel: Not a good time, toots. You fucked up.
And she did.
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I love Charlie okay!!! I just like to think that the most cheerful ones always have the sharpest tongues when frustrated.
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king--of--ducks · 3 months
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Can I see Charlie’s baby pictures??????
( I want to see him do the silly parent thing)
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🍎FUCKIN’ YES, BITCH!! Let me show you some of my fave’s!🍎
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shortkingenjoyer · 9 days
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we like hot goth ladies holding cute animals here right
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julsiemagne · 22 days
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pocchi-poket · 2 months
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Wouldn't it be extremely funny if after Alastor's dad-off with Lucifer, we get Rosie's mom-off musical number with Lilith in s2
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2ndprinceofdarkness · 27 days
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LIGHT-BRINGER CONCLUSION!!
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“You Wouldn't Look Half-Bad, Half-Angel!"
Header art for Light-Bringer's last scene took way too long guy plz
(Read the full scene below!)
Maybe support that Wattpad?
PSST--HEY! THIS IS THE LAST SCENE!
Act 4, Scene 4--
"You Wouldn't Look Half-Bad, Half-Angel!"
[Hell. LILITH's heels click as she walks down the stairs. LUCIFER, CHARLIE, VAGGIE, ALASTOR, and NIFTY turn as she approaches the group gathered in the Lobby.]
CHARLIE: Mom, you're awake!
LILITH: Has he returned?
LUCIFER: No.
CHARLIE: You knew?
VAGGIE: What else aren't you telling us?
LILITH: He will be back, dear, I assure you.
LUCIFER: When?
LILITH: It's up to him. I'm sure we will be well aware of his return, so...
ALASTOR: So?
LILITH: So– we should focus our attention on something more productive than sitting here huddling in a corner. We have spent the past millenia waiting! I am tired of waiting for them to do the damn thing.
ALASTOR: I agree Lilith! There's no point in waiting for the end times, we could bring them ourselves!
NIFTY: YEAH!
LILITH: [A moment of "bitch tf,"]  Unfortunately, Alastor, the timeframe of Uri's return is within his own hands. I've done all I can do. But–
[LUCIFER looks to her with panic–she stops.]
ALASTOR: Ouu! He's baaack!
[The handle of the front door turns–a slender black hand guides the door forward. A golden-orange glow comes from the other side. We see the silhouette of demonic horns, lit by the glow of URIEL's wings. There's a collective gasp at his new appearance. Red horns, a matching tail.  He's holding his own "Grimore"–the book he and LILITH have. He has a blank expression, he's been having a rough time since we last saw him.]
LUCIFER: Uri?
VAGGIE: Woah, are you okay?
LILITH: What happened!?
CHARLIE: [Guiding him to a seat] Here you can sit–do you need anything?
VAGGIE: We can get you something to drink, some food...
URIEL: It's alright–I don't need anything–
LILITH: [Making way for herself and LUCIFER,] Let me see you, oh my–
LUCIFER: Lil, maybe just back off a bit–
URIEL: Mom, please–!
[ALASTOR watches with NIFTY perched on his head. VAGGIE backs off, sensing URIEL's unease. CHARLIE does too–pulling LILITH away to give him some breathing room. URIEL sits with his head in his hands on the sofa, LUCIFER kneels before him. The others watch, unable to look away, still feeling like they're intruding.]
URIEL: I'm sorry–
LUCIFER: We're not mad, kiddo.
URIEL: I didn't mean to. [Beat.} I didn't mean to...I had to–
LUCIFER: [Gets in closer, giving some reassurance–breaking URIEL from his spiral.] I know. How're you really holding up?
[URIEL peeks at the group, not giving an answer before LILITH breaks away from CHARLIE, going by LUCIFER's side.]
LILITH: What happened, Uri?
URIEL: [Beat.] There was a guard.
VAGGIE: Oh, shit.
URIEL: On my balcony.
.CHARLIE: A guard? Why?
URIEL: Because I was made by these two [Re: LUCIFER and LILITH.] So, Heaven doesn't trust me to be here. Or be on Earth. Or really just "be...."
LILITH: And?
URIEL: I needed to leave Heaven.
LUCIFER: So you...?
CHARLIE: What did you do?
ALASTOR: AHAHA! Now this will be interesting!
NIFTY: Oooohhohohohohuu!!
[URIEL rolls his eyes, a growl sighing out.]
NIFTY: He's even more of a bad boy!
CHARLIE: [To URIEL:] Who was it–?
URIEL: –An exorcist.
VAGGIE: Wait, who?
URIEL: One of Lute's a-hole, top-shit, dickbag officers. And they aren't dead just out of commission–
ALASTOR: Oh, understood! Now–do tell me, is this new appearance change of yours intentional? I do say it looks like quite the improvement, maybe if we got you to smile, you wouldn't look half-bad, Half-Angel!
URIEL: Well, actually–
LILITH: That part we did expect–
CHARLIE: You did?
LUCIFER: We did?
LILITH: We did.
URIEL: [Hands the book to LUCIFER.] More or less... it's all there.
VAGGIE: Woah...
CHARLIE: Is that why you didn't want to go back? Because of this? Uri, I need you to know–I wouldn't have made you go back to Heaven if you didn't want to, ever! I hope you didn't feel like I wasn't happy to meet you–it was–is–a lot to take in. I just hope you'll let us try to make things right–for all our sakes.
URIEL: Thanks, Charlie.
[URIEL smiles, surrounded by the group. He sits between CHARLIE and VAGGIE on one side, and LUCIFER and LILITH on his other.]
VAGGIE: I need to be honest, you're handling this better than I was when I fell.
[VAGGIE goes to the bar, grabbing a bottle of wine. While she's there, she does a headcount, realizing she doesn't have enough glasses to give to everyone.]
URIEL: Aw, thanks!! I've had 10,000 years to prepare.
LUCIFER: Only if you're sure you are okay–
URIEL: I'm fine, really. [He's trying to play it off:] The pain stopped before I got here, besides I got way worse from sparring at home! Oh–
VAGGIE: It takes a while. You'll get used to it.
[Beat.] URIEL is notably more introspective–at this moment–the reality of his situation hitting like a semi-truck. VAGGIE returns to the couch, with three wine flutes and a bottle of red wine.]
ALASTOR: Well–I believe wine glasses were an oversight of our little Hotel renovation! Say, Nifty, care to join me on a few errands today?
NIFTY: Sure! [She waves flirtingly at URIEL,] Goodbye–eheh--I'll see you tonight~
[He just kinda smiles awkwardly–not knowing what to do, or what that means. ALASTOR and NIFTY exit with gleeful giggling. URIEL begins again, after the door closes, ending the laughing.]
URIEL: Right–anyway–I did want to show you something. So, after I dealt with the guard, I went to the Grand Library–[URIEL opens his book onto the tabletop. VAGGIE hands out glasses of wine.] –Thanks.
CHARLIE: The Library? Why?  [Re: VAGGIE giving wine.] Thanks, You.
[VAGGIE offers the final glass to LUCIFER, who snaps his fingers, materializing a glass in each hand, already full–he hands one to LILITH. He grins at VAGGIE who shakes her head at "His Royal Smugness."]
LUCIFER: That's not exactly playing it safe, Uri.
URIEL: Yeah, well, I'm a big kid–and it doesn't matter. Before I got to it, Lute found me. Get this: she said that the ending of the book had disappeared right after Adam's death. So...
VAGGIE: So? It's Lute–she's probably lying.
URIEL: So–that's when she sent Mom back when she did–that's when she sent me down here!
CHARLIE: So?
URIEL: So–the hotel is changing things in Heaven!
CHARLIE: Holy shit! That's great! Maybe they'll listen to us now! 
URIEL: Charlie–can you honestly tell me of a time that Heaven actually listened to anyone here right now?
CHARLIE: I–uh–no, not really. What about Emily!? She seemed like she might--maybe--listen, someday...
URIEL: Charlie, I have spent a millenia trying to make someone in Heaven understand, to make them all actually listen–they aren't going to. But now–even Sera can't deny it–Heaven is losing control!
LUCIFER: Do you think we're in danger? Are they going to send someone after you again?
CHARLIE: Whaat,  noooo! 
URIEL: Uhh– 
LILITH: Yes.
URIEL: Yeeeeaaah, probably. Big things are beginning to happen up there, and they aren't the ones causing it., it's scaring them. [To CHARLIE:] But you need to be careful–I doubt they'd treat you with the same kindness they showed me all these years after my [Airquotes:] "stunt"–
VAGGIE: We've fought them before, we'll do it again if we have to.
CHARLIE: We can protect ourselves, but I don't want to lose anyone else after Pentious.
URIEL: I won't let it come to that, you have my word, Charlie. I won't put you guys in danger. You've all done your time in the battle against Heaven, now I... [Beat.] If my being at the Hotel will put you in harm's way, I can find somewhere else to stay. Would I be able to get my stuff? I left it upstairs–
CHARLIE: Uri–! Please, don't feel like you have to leave. And Husk is making everyone dinner, we're just waiting on Angel to get back
VAGGIE: Yeah, it's not like you have any competition–we have plenty of rooms. Not many sinners want to stay at ground zero of the extermination.
LILITH: Oh well I can help with that–
CHARLIE: Really?!!
LILITH: Of course, dear.
CHARLIE: I am! You and Mom can stay here, at the Hotel, it'll be great. We can all live together, like a big family! [She squeezes VAGGIE, holding her around the waist.]
URIEL: [Beat.] Really?
CHARLIE: Wouldn't that be great? Just like on Earth, we could have game night! Ah!! We could have a karaoke family game night! And we could sing, and hold hands, what else do families do?
URIEL: I forgot. You haven't been to Earth yourself yet, have you?
CHARLIE: No, not personally. I've heard some good reviews though!
URIEL: Really, from people here?
CHARLIE: No.
URIEL: Ah. [Beat.] I guess that's what I could do once you guys kick me out. Go to Earth?
VAGGIE: Absolutely not!
URIEL: What? Why not?
VAGGIE: I forbid it.
URIEL: You do?
CHARLIE: She does.
LUCIFER: [RE: LILTH] So does she.
LILITH: What? I spent far too long waiting to get back here with you–no way I will be letting my baby boy out of my sight again.
URIEL: I'm like 10,000 years old. 
LILITH: And you were still "like 10,000" seven years ago, and I still don't care, dear.
URIEL: Aw. 
LUCIFER: Besides, we made a deal.
VAGGIE, CHARLIE, LILITH: You what?
URIEL: --You can't say it like that, Dad. He wanted me to play piano for him, and then I said he'd have to teach me to play the violin–it's stupid. I was drunk, and he was...Dad.
LUCIFER: Hey!
URIEL: Hey. [URIEL beams a smile to LUCIFER. Now to CHARLIE:] That wouldn't even take super long, I could be out of your hair tonight if you change your mind...
CHARLIE: [Beat.] Stay for as long as you want.
[URIEL hesitates and decides not to speak–smiling and taking a small sip of his wine as the lights fade to blackout.]
THE END OF "LIGHT-BRINGER"
TO BE CONTINUED... 
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billygoat26 · 3 months
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Hazbin Hotel Theory: Why Charlie and Lucifer's relationship went to shit
So, in the pilot, Charlie and Lucifer clearly weren't close, but why? Especially seeing him in episodes 5 and 8?
Alright, here's my thoughts. If you guys still end up not thinking the pilot is canon to the actual story, that's fine. This is just me and my brain tryna piece it together.
So, when Lucifer and Lilith split, Charlie went with Lilith. Now, assuming the divorce was due to some relationship issues (or maybe Lucifer was depressed and Lilith just couldn't handle it anymore), Lilith might have tried to fill Charlie's head with falsehoods about Lucifer, and any time Charlie might have talked to her mom about her dreams to redeem sinners, Lilith might have "supported" her, but if Charlie asked about her dad, Lilith would say something like "Your father would never believe in this, and he would think that this is pointless. In fact, he even said so himself!" And then Lilith would probably say something about Lucifer calling her (chances are he actually did, but instead of Lucifer being the shitty parent, it was Lilith, and she was trying to spin the story around)
That COULD explain why, when Charlie was leaving a voicemail to her mom in the pilot, she mentioned something about "I think dad was right about me."
But really, Lucifer probably really DID want to visit and talk to Charlie more, but maybe he got so worried about what Charlie would think- ooor maybe Lilith said something to him that might have kept him away.
So when Charlie invited him over to the hotel, that was probably why he was so excited.
So my thought is that Lilith wanted Charlie to favor her over Lucifer, since she might have been seeing Charlie being drawn to Lucifer's stories and dreams more than Lilith's singing, and because of this jealousy tried to separate Charlie and Lucifer.
This- this went all over the place- sorry
But like, I can't get this out of my head
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STOP STEALING THIS MAN’S WIVES
Bonus:
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darklinaforever · 1 month
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Vivziepop seems to me to have revealed that Lilith's story is supposed to last over several seasons and constitute the great mystery of the series. So for all the people who think at first glance that she's just the big bad and that she really just wanted to sunbathe quietly in paradise... I highly doubt it. It's far too simple, there is obviously much more behind it and once again, I will never believe in the fact that Lilith is the big bad.
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hazbinnez · 1 month
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"And you didn't know how And you didn't know why But you knew that you wanted to take her home You saw her alone there, against the sky It was like she was someone you'd always known It was like you were holding the world when you held her Like yours were the arms that the whole world was in And there were no words for the way that you felt So you opened your mouth and you started to sing"
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lbcreations-blog · 4 months
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Interesting
Was Lilith inspired by Jessica Rabbit?
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lu-lus-duckies · 2 months
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I just love seeing all the lucifer and lilith art, but it's got me thinking how funny it would be if it turned out lilith was just like the first man, a piece of shit. That'd be kinda funny
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