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ratgrinders · 2 days
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Ok here's an updated timeline of the Rat Grinders based on the new info we got this episode:
Freshman Year
On the first day of classes Kipperlily and the others meet and form their adventuring party. Kipperlily comes up with the name the High Five Heroes.
Kipperlily excels academically, but the High Five Heroes only go on easier adventures, presumably to ensure they will succeed rather than fail at something challenging.
Ruben is primarily an acoustic/soft rock musician.
Kipperlily begins to have childish rage and resentment towards Riz and the other Bad Kids, which start out petty but gradually grow in intensity over the next couple years.
Sophomore Year
An increase in hostility, one of the first meetings Kipperlily has this year is being jealous that Riz's dad was killed by Kalvaxus, that if a person has suffered immense magical hardship it is an unfair advantage in adventuring.
Kipperlily tries to find evidence of conspiracy with her parents and is enraged that they are boring.
A week after spring break the High Five Heroes go on their first quest to the mountains of chaos, chaperoned by Jace Stardiamond.
After this, the High Five Heroes seem to undergo a shift where their rage is amplified. Kipperlily's counselor files become much more venomous towards the Bad Kids, Ruben shifts to emo music, etc.
At some point after this Ivy and Oisin propose changing the name to the Rat Grinders. Kipperlily opposes this and Lucy is on her side, but Ruben votes against her because it makes her upset and Mary Ann also votes against her but doesn't explain her reasoning.
A piece of paperwork is submitted for Lucy to change her god, but another piece of paperwork is filed afterwards rescinding that application, presumably by Lucy herself changing her mind.
Towards the end of the year, after grades are finalized but before classes are over thus avoiding the pass/fail penalty, Lucy dies in the far haven woods near Aguefort. Presumably, she could have been resurrected in service of this unnamed rage god, but chose not to. She "stuck to her guns".
Kipperlily's rage towards the Bad Kids has transitioned from childish to venomous, she "hates them".
Junior Year
At some point between the end of Sophomore year and the beginning of Junior year, the Rat Grinders specifically request Buddy Dawn join their party as a cleric.
At 8:01 am, the first day of classes, Kipperlily goes to Ashgrove to dig up the rogue teacher's grave, thus forcing her to reveal herself and granting Kipperlily a pass for all her rogue classes for the year. Presumably she was aware of the rogue teacher's grave beforehand (information only available in Arthur Aguefort's office) but waited until the start of Junior year so she could pass all her classes for the year.
Kipperlily announces her bid to run for student council president, with a platform based on equity, equanimity, and fairness.
Kipperlily asks Jawbone about the creation of Yes! and the events of prompocalypse
Her counselor notes become extremely enraged, with her straight up wanting to kill Kristin and being angry that she can't get to her thanks to Fig's protection.
Oisin, Ivy, and Buddy are seen at Fabian's house party during the first week of classes. Kipperlily is not seen but is possibly there invisible. The Bad Kids are asked to do drugs but decline. That same night, mephits steal part of a cloud rider engine kept in Seacaster Manor.
At the school assembly the following day Principal Grix reveals he was notified of students doing drugs off campus, meaning its possible the Rat Grinders tipped him off in an attempt to get the Bad Kids in trouble.
Ruben performs presumably some kind of ritual at the Frosty Fair Folk festival, with the other Rat Grinders conspicuously absent. Simultaneously, Yolanda Badgood falls dead in the same place where Lucy Frostblade died, after Yolanda had been made aware of Lucy's change in god and was investigating it. Yolanda also refuses to be resurrected in service of the rage god.
The Rat Grinders are seen at the assembly addressing Yolanda's death and how all clerics would be moved to pass/fail. Most look bored, Mary Ann isn't paying attention, and Buddy is unconcerned.
Kipperlily and Oisin get caught trying to sabotage the Bad Kids' Last Stand exam, and Kipperlily kills Buddy. Ten minutes after the Bad Kids plane shift away, Buddy is revived by an unknown figure and he pledges his allegiance to the rage god.
Now the Rat Grinders are scheduled for another trip to the Mountains of Chaos and are on complete lockdown, hiding all of them from Adaine's divination magic.
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realizing now that the ratgrinders probably DIDN'T kill lucy frostblade at all. likely, they were all killed by the same entity (jace or some other proxy of the rage goddess) at the same time and lucy was just the only one with the integrity to stay dead, instead of becoming a puppet. that's why ruben was so sad when he said she "stuck to her guns." because he wishes he had been able to be that brave instead of living with a constant anger inside him that overshadows every other part of his life! their grief is, on some level, probably genuine
but now they've passed the moral event horizon and killed buddy almost as a sort of "initiation" ritual. a messed-up version of hazing. "you can't be one of us until you die and come back wrong too"
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islandoforder · 1 day
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personally i am on team “oisin does legitimately have a crush on adaine and it is just slightly complicated by the plans to you know murder her whole party but like wow she has such potential for rage if she also dedicated herself to ankarna we really could rule the world together hey ivy don’t you think adaine would make an amazing rage driven wizard empress?”
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is this the adventure you were looking for
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aphoticfirefly · 2 days
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ep 15 of fhjy wont phase me brennan lee mulligan, i WILL manifest inkblade into being canon 😤
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jq37 · 2 days
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Last episode, Eugenia Shadow said that Kipperlilly is a lot like Riz if he'd walked a darker path which has me wondering if Oisin is meant to be Adaine without the boldness to get out from under the thumb of her parents. We know he's rich with ancestral dragon gold and we suspect said dragon ancestor is up to shenanigans between the KVX logo change to blue and the dragon fight in the promo. There's no way to know yet because we've only gotten glimpses of him this season, but I can easily imagine their paths diverging because while Adaine has always been stubborn and contrary and amenable to patricide under the right circumstances, Oisin toed the line and did whatever was expected of him.
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scalematey · 2 days
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gonna be real some of the people being like “oisin did nothing wrong he’s my soft little blorbo and he’s being manipulated by kipperlily” while being like “kipperlily is the worst person in the world and legitimately evil for hating her presidential campaign opponent and experiencing petty jealousy”. you guys smell a little of misogyny
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rainbowtransform · 2 days
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So the Rat Grinders are fractured. Even back in the beginning, they were fractured because they didn’t have a chance to grow closer. They took easy quests to just get it over with
Then they died, and got brought back. And they grew slightly closer, but they just didn’t grow as close as the Bad Kids. And I think that’s another reason why Kipperlilly feels so jealous. The Bad Kids have a bond, through thick and thin, death and life, no matter in what world or place they’d always find each other.
Kipperlily wants that. She wants to get along with her party like they do. She wants that trust, that “you’ll always have my back” but she doesn’t get that.
Ruben doesn’t like her, he voted for the name change because he saw upset it made her. Oisin and Ivy are the best friends in their group, closer to each other more then they to anyone else. Mary Ann doesn’t even speak to them, preferring to keep silent and do whatever she wants.
The only person that was on her side was Lucy, and Lucy stayed dead.
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tardismyrp · 1 day
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Conspiracy board # whatever because I do so many of these:
Ok so I don’t think Jace died in the mountains of chaos. I think he died way before all of this, and possibly before the bad kids and rat grinders were in school. Jace chose The Rat Grinders to go to the mountains of chaos because he knew of Kipperlily’s rage and knew she could be manipulated. The rest of her party was just a bonus. That does make me feel a bit bad for the Rat Grinders because they were taken advantage of by an adult they were supposed to trust. However, I don’t think it was just Jace alone.
We know at the end of freshman year/beginning of sophomore year season Ragh saw Kalina talk to Jace and Porter. These are the names Kalina couldn’t say. Thus Porter is likely involved in this plot and may have helped kill The Rat Grinders. When were they killed though? This is where my theory goes off the rails.
My personal theory, which is me over thinking past interactions, is sometime before the beginning of freshman year. In episode 3 of freshman year Jace says “ I gotta be straight with you about that. I don't know why you talk that way. I'm trying to make a bridge between you and me. We're coworkers. I'd like to get along, you know? You're not required to be my friend, but, like, a little cordiality, man. Like, spoonful of sugar. Help me out, man. I'm here trying to make something happen.” to Porter. Back then it was just hey we teach together we should at least get along. Now I’m wondering if it’s anything more than that, especially with this new information.
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gaysludge · 8 hours
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Maybe the rage deal in the last episode wasn’t JUST “You live but have extreme amounts of rage.” What if they were offered their wildest dreams and the rage was a clause in like microfont bc to them the gifts of achieving their goals and living seems like a great deal especially for children. The rage pushes them to achieve a goal, the rat grinders are KIDS they arnt gonna have crazy outrageous dreams and ambition at 17 years old, I knew nothing when I was that age.
You have a crush on a girl for a couple years and want to catch her attention? Bam. Get more confidence, become buff, get noticed first the first time ever. Oisin was completely unrecognizable before but now after all this?
You hate another rogue so much you want to be better than him? Bam! Kipperlily finds the rogue teacher first AND signs up for the election assuming riz would be the one to do it bc why would Kristen Applebees want to be president? Which could be an event bigger fuel to KLCK’s fire.
You want to be a famous musician and you’re jealous of a bard in school who never goes to class but has what you don’t? Bam! Ruben copies her look and produce music when she’s on hiatus as well as getting signed by her label
Mary Anne’s is small and girly she was probably bullied and wanted to make it stop, so shes now indifferent, and strong enough to stand up for herself, she sees Gorgug on the first day of school get decked in the face jsut to grow into this strong guy and sees him as inspiration
Lucy was content with life, she loved her friends, loved her god and knew the rage wasn’t what she wanted to have to live with. The resurrection is supposed to help them feel fulfilled but she’d just be more unsatisfied with life if she took the offer. Lucy was happy with what she had, and had no further aspirations, she loved her god and 'stuck to her guns'
Buddy dawn a follower of helio, watches the chosen one of his church abandon everything, he’s sad and confused as to why she did what she did. He dies and is offered the chance to become the chosen one for an unnamed god, he’s scared, helio is missing, and if Kristin took an offer from a new god and was okay why wouldn’t he be?
The rat grinders were scared kids who needed a miracle, and one was offered CHILDREN WILL SCREAM FOR HELP UNTIL THEY ARE ARE OFFERED SANCTION, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO THE SAVIOR IS
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Icicles don't soften when they die, so why should I?
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kermit-coded · 2 days
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Fire and Ice, Rage and Sorrow
are we still friends? by tyler, the creator // dimension 20: fantasy high junior year // i wanna be your girlfriend by girl in red // dimension 20: fantasy high junior year // i wanna be your girlfriend by girl in red // dimension 20: fantasy high junior year // jealousy, jealousy by olivia rodrigo // dimension 20: fantasy high junior year // not allowed by tv girl
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raspberryjampal · 2 days
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Soooo are we gonna acknowledge the fact that Oisin is literally best friends with Ivy who is a huge asshole??
Sorry y’all but I don’t Oisin was ever gonna be a good guy
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nekonomicons · 2 days
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RATGRINDERS SUBCLASS PREDICTIONS!!!
Kipperkiller- Mastermind Rogue (known)
Ruben- Eloquence Bard (Threw SO MANY bardics out during the frostfaire fight… is a musician trying to get people to follow his song’s orders)
Mary Anne- Berserker Barbarian, but I think it would be hilarious if she was a Giant Barbarian.
Ivy- She’s implied to be an Arcane Archer, so i’ll stick with that
Oisin- we know he’s a Conjuration Wizard
Lucy- Life Domain, i’d say because she feels like more of a healer, but Tempest Domain could be fun flavored for someone who worships a winter goddess.
Buddy- light domain. Helio lovers yknow.
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dream rat grinders fancast:
vic michaelis as kipperlilly
rekha shankar as ruben
katie marovitch as maryann
ross bryant as buddy
lily du as ivy
and hear me out … aabria iyengar as oisin
@heartswellz hype me up 🙏
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whoblewboobear · 2 days
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I think next episode will officially be the rat grinders v bad kids fight in the cave with the blue dragon from one of the previews (Still wondering if it’ll be Oisin or his rich grandma tho.)
Brennan said check the energy two adventuring parties from now in last week’s episode. The adventuring party next week will either be post-rat grinders show down or right in the middle of it based on how the pacing has been with battles. We’re in for some shit.
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