#ouat liveblog

[imissthembutitwasntadisaster]

Not to be judgemental but so so many problems in ouat would not be an issue if folks stopped saying "ahh yes it's such a good idea to make a deal with this creepy guy who lives in the woods"

#like if they simply did not make deals the issues would simply be fine #ouat #ouat liveblog

[neverland93]

Robbie and the ouat fam goes on strike

#robbie kay #ouat #once upon a time #ouat imagine peter pan #ouat peter pan #ouat liveblog #ouat fanfiction #ouat fandom

[12freddofrogs]

Okay. So having finished season one of OUAT, I might do a better summing up post of the things to actually sum up in a second. But first, I have just been thinking about all the characters who actually know their histories and backstories have been told to thousands of children as bedside stories, and how they probably feel about it.

There were four people who completely, 100 percent knew that they weren't from this world (who also had the theoretical opportunity to research fairytales; I kinda doubt Maleficent did): Regina, Gold, Jefferson, and August. As of yet, at least. Maybe later seasons will reveal that Tiana or someone was also there with her full memories.

Regina probably didn't buy a copy of Snow White for Henry (I maintain my theory Henry's first introduction to that specific fairytale was in the storybook), but she was probably curious. She might have picked up a copy of the Grimm's tale and laughed at most of it, successfully ignoring the slight twist in her stomach at the description of the Evil Queen's brutal death. Regina could have even put on the most famous movie version, the Disney cartoon, and deliberately gagged throughout the singing birds. She might have made a snarky comment at the Happily Ever After ("You sure about that?") and then tossed out the DVD. Ultimately, she's aware of the tale, but hasn't really studied it.

Mr Gold absolutely read a version of Rumpelstiltskin or two. He probably would have watched the movie, but there isn't really a mainstream American Rumpelstiltskin movie. A couple can be found here and there, but it doesn't seem to be a hugely popular movie to adapt. The biggest one I can think of is the third Shrek, and Mr Gold doesn't particularly strike me as someone who would sit down and watch Shrek for its own sake.

That said, he was trapped in time for almost thirty years, during which he could do very little. Refine his plans, gather information, the general running of a store, but he was stuck in Storybrooke for a long time. It's not impossible to me things would contrive until he found himself watching Shrek 3. And honestly? I think he wouldn't hate his portrayal in that movie. That particular Rumpelstiltskin was smart, made deals and kept them despite looking for loopholes, collected power, was terrifying in his own right despite being a comedic character in a comedic film. He was a villain, but it's not like the Dark One has ever particularly been surprised at that title.

My first thought on Jefferson was that he probably hadn't read Alice in Wonderland, but then I realised that he absolutely, most definitely had. So many times, in every variation he could find. Jefferson has spent those thirty years desperately looking for a way to go back. There is no doubt that the Mad Hatter has been intensely studying what seems to be the biggest link between the Enchanted Forest (and Wonderland) and the Land Without Magic: the fact that somehow the stories themselves are leaking through in variations.

He's watched movies. He's read Alice and Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, and read books on those books. He's played video games and watched kid's cartoons and read dumb romances that seem to have no link other than the characters having familiar names. Jefferson has noticed that, for some reason, the Disney cartoon appears to be the most accurate.

Not just for Alice in Wonderland, but for all of them. Some of the other stories he only knew by reputation, or rumour, and he can't actually ask Mary Margaret what elements of the Snow White tale were true or not. That said, he knows that dwarves have names like Grumpy and Doc, and only Disney seems to have given that name. He'd heard of the fairy Maleficient, and every other variation of Sleeping Beauty gave the uninvited fairy a different name. Disney isn't exactly accurate but they are closer than anyone else, including the original tales. What does that mean? He has no idea. He would break into Disney studios if he could.

And then August, I think, would absolutely watch Pinocchio. I'm fairly certain he was still going by the name Pinocchio when he first arrived, and people made connections. Small child by the side of the road, someone grabbed the Disney DVD from Blockbuster. The first time he saw it he was too startled to tear his eyes away. He watched it again a few weeks later, and had adjusted enough to the world that he sobbed the whole time.

August has, much like Jefferson, also noticed that Disney seems to be the most accurate one. He read The Adventures of Pinocchio when he was fourteen, tucked up in a private corner of a library and half expecting the book to cause a breakdown, and was instead just surprised at how different things were. The Field of Miracles? Bandits? Why is the whale a dogfish shark?

He hasn't made it a hobby to track down every version, but he has watched a few of them. He liked a couple, disliked others, more based on how he was portrayed rather than how accurate it was. He did at least once go on the Pinocchio ride at Disneyland and, despite how cartoony and wrong the little Jiminy Cricket was, he was nearly crying when he got out.

And, of course, Mr Gold isn't just Rumpelstiltskin, is he?

I'm not sure how it would come up, necessarily. Again, he's not really the type to watch children's movies for fun. He could pick up a book of fairytales and browse through, but honestly, his story was different enough that he might not connect who this Beauty is, with two older sisters and a father who steals a rose and a monster with an unwilling curse.

But it was twenty-eight years, and a lot can happen in that time. Maybe Regina did it on purpose - after all, she had a young son who was allowed to watch most of the Disney princesses, just not Snow White. She could have made a delicate suggestion to a man she was sure wouldn't get the reference about a Belle and Gaston, and certainly nothing showed in Gold's face that he recognised those names. But once she left, he curiously tracked down the Disney copy of Beauty and the Beast.

It didn't take long at all before he saw the familiarity, a girl who loved to read who, even in a cartoon, looked too familiar. Gold actually couldn't get through the whole movie in one go, and had to keep stopping. If it was more accurate, he might not have finished. He didn't realise that the singing teacup with a single chip in it meant something until he was well into the movie. And he didn't quite cry, not even in the privacy of his own house with the doors locked, at the ending when the Beast that was not him chose love and the woman who was absolutely Belle, but his eyes were a little wet. He spent the next few weeks making Mr French's life miserable, raising rent and insisting on quicker repayments, and didn't even pretend to justify it.

#ouat liveblog #12freddofrogs writes #ouat

[pumpernickel-simswood]

I'm on season seven, episode four of Once Upon A Time and are you absolutely kidding me!? They're dragging Up into this!? For part of how much of a "good man" Rumple is?! Screw all the way off! Jfc.

#ouat #ouat spoilers #ouat s7 spoilers #once upon a time #once upon a time spoilers #once upon a time s7 #once upon a time s7 spoilers #nick liveblogs #i am so mad about this. like more than anything else they've pulled. why're they insulting Carl like this!? He's actually a good man #nick rants

[mintchip-lover]

I'm being so fr, this whole time snow white though that Regina was mad at her because Daniel *ran away* she DIDN'T KNOW cora killed him!!!!! Like, imagine

A 12 year old thinking her mother is irrational bc the "love of her life" abandoned her and she's taking it out in you but turns out he DIED HE'S DEAD!!!!! HE WAS MURDERED!!! like that's so ridiculous

Regina wanted to "spare" snow of feeling bad from being the cause of someone's murder but she still took it against her

#ouat #ouat rewatch #ouat liveblogging #ouat snow white #ouat regina

[straightfromthetorturedpoetsdept]

the redemption arc will emotionally destroy me every time, the person society has ridiculed and isolated into becoming a villain rejecting that preordained narrative and deciding to forge a better existence for themselves will get me every time the inherent optimism you must have in humanity to write such a compelling story about some of the most despicable characters and personalities imaginable it brings me to my knees crying every time its never too late as long as you're alive you can always choose to be a better person today you are always in control of your own destiny i love it i love it i love it you are worthy of being seen as good and it doesnt matter if nobody else forgives you if you forgive yourself enough to make better choices in the future its so beautiful i love it

#personal #ouat #liveblog #i am EMOTIONAL over morally grey characters okay leave me beee

[mirkwoodest]

In a strange turn of fate, I think the stupidest moments in Once Upon a Time have actually aged the best.

#I'm sorry for liveblogging my ouat rewatch I'm on cloud 9 rn #txt #subtitle for this entire show should've been Crack Treated Serious #or maybe just Mommy Issues #ouat

[peasantexchangeprogram]

"someone has to save these people from the fire!"

"pinocchio, dont!!"

#mine* #not not ouat liveblog #credit 2 bar

[showmethesneer]

The children yearn for the mines thing but it's just me, yearning for a literary analysis assignment after finishing a book.

So because i have a Film degree, i did the Blake Snyder beat sheet for this novel lol

my Jane Eyre beat sheet

Opening Image - Jane's abusive childhood

Set-Up - Jane is desperate for love and acceptance, desperate to find family and a home where she will feel appreciated.

Theme Stated - Forgiveness is important in love.

Catalyst - Jane is sent to the super religious school where she learns to double down on her people pleasing instincts. Maybe someone will love her and accept her if she is obedient and useful and selfless– this school and its teachings snuff out her sense of self-worth.

Debate - Jane reveals that she wants her abusers to suffer. Helen tells Jane about god and how crucial forgiveness is, even for those who wrong you. 

Break Into Two - Jane takes her future into her own hands, taking out an advertisement and goes to work at Thornfield. She can be useful and find purpose in caring for others.

B Story - Jane meets Rochester– who is not attractive or kind, so it puts her at ease. He puts no effort into being "good" and does not claim or aspire to any virtues her teachings were based on, which is refreshing. He values what she has to say, appreciates her gifts and overall personality, and makes her feel like she is actually worthy of attention.

Fun and Games - As Jane and Rochester develop a rapport, she begins to feel important and useful, and takes pleasure in being of service to him. Even though she worries that he is in love with Blanche Ingram, he proposes to her. She realizes that he appreciates her for who she is because she is worthy of love. She does not have to fade into the background as she was taught.

Midpoint - Rochester is not only already married, he keeps his wife locked in the attic.

Bad Guys Close In - Jane is determined to respect Rochester’s marriage, even at the cost of her own happiness. He loves and accepts her as she is (yay!) but she cannot forgive him for breaking his marriage vow (boo!). Her want/goal was to find people who loved her as she was. Her need is to learn to forgive people so she can be receptive to and reciprocate that love. 

All Is Lost - Jane leaves Thornfield Hall. She rejects Rochester’s love, rejects her job, her home– everything she found and cultivated in this new life she made for herself and winds up starving and cold and penniless and alone. Worse off than when she left the Reed’s house or the school in the beginning. 

Dark Night Of The Soul - The Rivers take Jane in and give her a new family to belong to, a new vocation, a chance to live independently, but without the kind of love she had from Rochester. St. John proposes marriage for the purpose of making her a missionary’s wife. It will be a platonic marriage, at the service of god, where she will have to be selfless and deny her own personal desires. This is the opposite of the life she was leading at Thornfield Hall where her opinion was valued and her appetite for love was well-fed, and her weird little delights in being called an elf and endearingly teased were satisfied. She will not get that as a missionary’s wife, where the emphasis will be on piety and goodness. St. John appreciates her, not for who she is, but for what he can make her. She hears Rochester crying out for her in the night and knows she has to go back to him.

Break Into Three - Jane returns to Thornfield to find it has been burned to the ground and Rochester is badly injured. He is free to marryy her now, he even needs her help so she will definitely be useful if she stays. She has to forgive him if she wants to be with him now. And if she wants to be with him now, she needs to reject being a people pleaser and marrying St. John to live as a selfless missionary’s wife; she knows her worth now. She will not sacrifice her happiness, she wants Rochester and she will have him. 

Closing Image - Jane and Rochester live happily together. They have children. She loves her life. She feels useful and loved and does not have to sacrifice anything to be this content. Additionally, St. John is doing his missionary work and never marries– the epitome of the selfless, people pleasing life she was bound for if she had never learned her worth or how to value herself as she is, which is what Rochester’s love has given her.

#i wrote out this beat sheet just so i can write my ouat fic #blake snyder beat sheet #jane eyre #literary analysis #charlotte brontë #liveblog of me reading #long post

[kazoosandfannypacks]

Watching Alice in Wonderland for the first time! It's such a classic and my friends and I wanted to do something wonderland for Halloween, so I figured I'd better do some research ;)

#besides she's like two of my favorite OUaT characters so... #kazzy liveblogs #disney #alice in wonderland

[dreamertrilogys]

my youngest sister is watching victorious rn & every time i walk by and see the hot goth bisexual i start foaming at the mouth and have to physically stop myself from going “she’s so hot” to my 9 y/o sister

#.txt #the other white girl looks so much like. cameron house md/the main character from that one fairytale show #<- emma swan ouat there we go. they’re the same actress #liveblogging

[imissthembutitwasntadisaster]

No more dating apps I want to meet people the old-fashioned way (you're riding in your carriage with your distant betrothed I steal jewels from you, you catch up to me and pull up my hood to reveal my face, romantic music swells, I brain you with a rock and ride away)

#ouat liveblog

[happy-emmdings]

The CS movie is everything. I love time travel plots so much. I love Killian’s logical approach and concern for preserving the continuity of the timeline. I love Emma’s reckless good heart and how she can’t let someone innocent die even if it’s technically history, because she’s not just gonna stand by and watch. I love this dynamic.

#the plan to take marian with them was brilliant actually #ouat 3x22 #cs movie #liveblogging

[12freddofrogs]

I wonder how things would have gone had Gretel agreed to be adopted by the Evil Queen.

I think its a pretty fair reading Regina only really wanted to adopt Gretel, not Hansel. Gretel was the one who was being brave, being smart, was the main reason they survived the gingerbread house. I cant imagine Hansel did anything much that impressed Regina.

That said, I think Regina not caring about Hansel goes both ways. Regina knows killing Hansel would make Gretel hate her forever. Can she arrange an accident for him? Sure, but why bother? Its a big castle. Its not like the Queen needs to worry about the costs of feeding him, or getting him his own room. Toss a tutor or two at him, leave him to his own devices, Gretel runs off and hangs out with him every afternoon. Maybe he'll grow up surprisingly useful.

Its entirely possible that if the Queen had adopted Hansel and Gretel, she would have eventually grown tired of Hansel and had him quietly killed. But I definitely don't think that was her plan from the start.

She definitely would have had the kids' father killed, of course. Can't risk them finding out he never abandoned them, have him taken away and quietly buried. Maybe make some illusion later on, pay an actor to pretend to be their father and convince the kids he ran off.

Give the kids all the comfort and riches and power they have ever wanted and maybe, just maybe, someone might actually stay with her willingly. Possibly even start to love her.

#nowhere near far enough into the series to write the fic proper #let alone read one #because im sure later on it will be revealed that at this time in the enchanted forest idk sleeping beauty is trapped in the castle too #which any fic would reasonably have to mention but i dont know it yet #ouat liveblog

[pumpernickel-simswood]

So, I'm rewatching Once Upon A Time a terrible idea, honestly and I'm honestly surprised at how genuinely good season one is? Like, I remember enjoying it as a kid but I understand storytelling better these days and it's odd to see it be engaging. Especially, when I know that the later seasons just go off the rails lol. Anyway, Bucky Barnes is here and Regina should stop daring Emma, however unintentionally and start dating her

#nick watches #nick liveblogs #once upon a time #ouat #ouat s1 #hat trick

[mintchip-lover]

She gave them a happy life, an apartment, school, love, family in each other she loved them both

"you'll have never given him up, you'll have always been together"

IM LOSING MY MIND

she gave them that!!!!!!SHE

#ouat liveblogging #ouat regina #ouat emma #ouat henry #regina mills #emma swan #henry mills #?? #cute #AAAAHH IM LOSING IT #swanqueen