Throwback to the bl that got me here in the first place..
It's true that the first of anything really is held close to your heart..(unless it was a bad one) sure, I might have found other series that caught my eye but this ones precious.. :)
Yesterday in the live pavelpooh had on tiktok someone commented paveldome tho I think it was Pavel lol (dome was pavels parnter in 2moons2!) and pooh was like huh🤨 lmao reminds me of this moment 🤣 😂
Pavel: It's interesting.
Pooh: Where's it from?
Pavel: Here it says PavelDomePooh. Do you know what Dome means?
Similar to the mame question- I, seeking some clarification about 2moons. How to watch, why is there cast change? I keep seeing about “passing” a couple that is now in triage???
I’m confused.
What Happened With The 2 Moons Franchise?
How to watch? Last I checked both 2 Moons & 2 Moons 2 were available on YouTube.
First thing to know, 2 Moons is probubly one of the most popular y-novels ever written. It's responsible for the freshman popularity contest trope, the pink milk trope, and the clear umbrella trope in Thai BL. It features 3 couples and 2 friendship groups. Older boys, 3 of whom (Pha, Kit, Beam) are best friends and medical students (the wild doctors), and one who is an engineering outsider (Forth). And the 2 younger boy besties (Ming & Yo) who enter university and the moon popularity contest and cause a sensation.
Second thing is, as of its 2017 release 2 Moons original was the first genuine sweet high production Thai BL, it had none of the bully harshness of SOTUS and none of the messy high school soapyness of Love Sick or Make it Right.
The character couples are:
PhaYo - the leads, pining since high school, mutual crush, stern older and innocent blushing maiden pure boi, first played by GodBas then by BenEarth
MingKit - the best friends of the above, the player flirt younger man (Yo's bestie) and the sharp harsh older boy (Pha's bestie) first played by KimCop then by JoonNine AKA J9
ForthBeam - these two are friends-to-lovers, one-night-stand, pick-up couple (initially Forth wants Yo) and the highest heat of the couples, first played by TaeTee then by PavelDome
The differences between the 2 installments?
2 Moons 2017 - focuses almost entirely on PhaYo with only a little bit of flirtation between MingKit and no ForthBeam really at all. PahYo get together but it ends on a cliffhanger.
2 Moons 2 2019 covers EXACTLY the same ground as 2 Moons only faster (lie cliffs notes) but then adds to the story and significantly expands on the side dishes. Both MingKit and ForthBeam get completed story arcs. PhaYo get together but end on a cliffhanger... again. Since I couldn’t really care less about PhaYo, but I love ForthBeam, this is my favorite.
Unless you really like the PhaYo dynamic and prefer those actors (I do think they are a better PhaYo) you can skip the first installment and just watch 2 Moons 2. Although the fan subber for the original, PinkMilk, is very cute with the commentary. And you might want to watch to familiarize yourself with the side actors (more to come on them).
Why the Cast change?
2 Moons - first installment, features Bas and God in the lead roles. The cast fell apart (mismanagement? studio conflict? inability to handle the fandom? all of the above?) It was early on in the Thai BL industry days so *shrug* God was already popular and well known, so he could walk away.
I think this crisis is partly responsible for the Thai studio obsession with casting unknowns in BL roles going forward (the studio has more power). The flip side was the pair branding thing which is basically code for: the boys know what they are in for and are OK with it so long as they are together.
2 Moons 2 - fell apart also, again we aren’t sure why, but there were accusations of bullying, mismanagement, actor abuse and a lot more - the director’s follow up BL Call It What You Want (which, like Lovely Writer takes the BL industry to task) is rumored to be a commentary/expose on 2m2. He also directed the documentary BL: Broken Fantasy.
The Actors - 2 Moons
The original Pha, God, left the production for unknown reasons. (rumors suggest he did not like the IRL shipping drama) God was a very popular model before he got the role and continues to be a popular actor in Thailand.
The original Yo, Bas, went on to become a staple of Star Hunter and has been in a number of BLs. He's been paired with various other actors (Dun in Gen Y, Perth in Tell, etc...)
The original MingKit went on to become BL power couple KimCop:
They actually seem pretty cool as a pair. They’re supportive of queer advocacy, co-brand in a classy way, but are pretty restrained about everything. They’ve gone on to anchor multiple BLs at this juncture and don’t seem to be stopping anytime soon. Copter identifies as gender non-conforming, they/them.
The original ForthBeam weren’t really depicted as a couple at all in the series but then they did a microfilm together, Triage, which everyone got very excited about. Fortunately for us, that microfilm got made into a full length show (airing mid 2022). They don’t seem to be showing any signs of pair-branding though.
The Actors - 2 Moons 2
The PhaYo pairing - Earth & Ben definitely had a rift. Ben doesn’t seem to be around/interested in the industry anymore, Earth is appearing in My Secret Love.
The MingKit pairing - J9 were clearly very close friends, but Nine is half Chinese and has gone to China to become a Cpop idol. Joon joined GMMTV and just starred in Star in My Mind.
The ForthBeam pairing - Pavel is supposed to have a new BL this year and Dome was rumored to have one as well. I don’t think we will see them together as a pair again. Pavel is particularly industry savvy and intentional in his marketing, I don’t think co-branding is something he’ll actively pursue. Although he’s happy to play the game for promo.
re: 2moons2 after all this time i'm still confused (and i can't think of anyone better to ask <3)
what's the deal? is it a sequel or a reboot or some kind of anthology series? can i just watch 2moons2 without watching the other howevermanymoons?
ok so technically 2Moons2 was SUPPOSED to be the sequel to the original 2Moons. But I think since so much negativity was surround gxxd (the dude that originally played Pha) that they just went ahead and re-did the entire series. Gxxd admitted that he didn't want to kiss Bas so they only had one forced kiss wayyyy at the end of the series. KimCopter was A+ as MingKit tho and I loved Bas as Wayo.
The original 2Moons showed Pha and Wayo getting together as they worked on the Campus Star and Moon competition. The original touched base with Ming and Kit so you could see them beginning to fall in love but not get established.
The original didn't touch on Forth and Beam at all though. The only reason why I'd suggest watching the original is because Kimmon Varodom, Copter Panawut, and Bas Suradej are all in it and I love them...but you could also watch Gen Y for them because they're practically playing the same characters just in a different universe (I'll explain more about that if you want lol)...like they're the ONLY reason I wouldn't COMPLETEY discard the original, but you don't have to watch it to watch 2Moons2.
So 2Moons2 is really a reboot of the original but better in my opinion.
They cover the same story in 2Moons2 but the only exception is that they compacted what was shown in the original series to just a few eps so they could move forward with everyone's storylines.
I really liked 2Moons2 overall because Ben and Earth had better chemistry as Wayo and Pha. Joong and Nine were just as amazing as KimCopter for MingKit. And Pavel and Dome were just *chef's kiss* as ForthBeam. You get to see all THREE couples get together and overall the series gives off a better vibe than the original.
If you'd like I could explain more about the plot and also about an alternative to the original 2Moons if you want to see the same actors but not watch 2Moons(aka gen y)
doreen you're telling me that paveldome will be having another bl series NOT together but with someone else and those two other people (who are not the same person) have the same exact name as of Benz ? whatttt !! mnidblown!
sdkjhjsd anon I knowwww it's crazy 😅😅
for some reason my brain didn't register the 2 same names for the longest time until someone pointed it out on Twitter and I YELLED lmaoo.
this just proves that it’s still their world and we're still just living in it 🤷🏼♀️