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butterflydm · 7 months

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s3 spec (distracting myself from waiting for the new episode)

Well, it's a Thursday morning and it's hours until the new episode (plus I have to wait until after work to watch) so... wild speculation about s3! Guaranteed to have many wrong guesses! Let's go!

(contains spoilers through book 8: the path of daggers)

What is it going to mean in a practical sense that s3 will be a 'closer' adaptation of book 4?

What do the characters do in book 4 that needs to be adapted?

I'll start with the easiest person first: Perrin needs to meet Faile and begin the process of falling in love; and he needs to go to the Two Rivers to defend it from Whitecloaks and Trollocs. This is Perrin's clearest and most cinematic plotline in the entire series. It's also been pretty cleanly set up in the show already.

In the books, he goes to the Two Rivers with Loial, Gaul, Bain, Chiad, and Faile.

speculation: the show, he will first meet Faile in the Two Rivers, there as a Hunter of the Horn; Bain and Chiad will go with him in Aviendha's stead, because Aviendha will obligated to go back to the 3FL; Loial has a friendship with Perrin and it makes sense that he would go - in the show, Perrin is the person that Loial has spent the most time with and is closest to; Gaul will probably be introduced when we get more Aiel at the start of s3 and will decide to go with Perrin... maybe because Chiad and Bain are going with him?

Alanna and Verin might also likely be waiting for Perrin in the Two Rivers.

Second easiest: Rand needs to go to the Aiel Waste, go to Rhuidean, and become the Car'a'carn. He's already in place to find out at the end of this season or the start of next season that he's potentially the Aiel's Car'a'carn, but needs to prove it. Moiraine may tell him that he needs an army and the Aiel are fierce warriors, plus he may want to learn more about his biological parents and their past. Moiraine and Lan would naturally want to go with him to keep training him, so that part's easy.

In the books, Egwene goes with him to learn how to be a Dreamer from the Aiel Wise Ones. But that's a book 3 plot and she hasn't touched on it at all yet this season. Will we see any hints of her being a Dreamer this season or will that begin at the start of s3?

Theoretically, Egwene doesn't have to go with Rand to Rhiudean -- she could go back to the Tower with Elayne and Nynaeve so that she and Elayne can take their Accepted tests, find out that Liandrin has flown the coop, and get clues on where to chase her. Then she Dreams and learns she needs to go to Rhuidean, and so she... travels there on her own? While Elayne and Nynaeve head off to chase the Black Ajah on their own? This would mean that Liandrin is 100% revealed to Siuan as Black Ajah. idk this part is wobbly for me (narratively, it's so much easier if Egwene just goes to the Waste with Rand)

Mat also needs to go to Rhuidean. If Egwene does go back to the Tower, then Mat could go with her and then onto the Waste (but why would he ever want to go back to the place he was imprisoned for months? a second round of dagger healing?)

It feels like we need the redstone doorway, or something similar, to keep Mat on his path to Rhuidean rather than going back with Perrin to the Two Rivers. That was the question that Mat originally entered with, iirc -- should he go home to the Two Rivers? And he was told to go to Rhuidean instead.

Will the parts of book 4 that happen in Tear mostly happen in Falme instead?

They can't interrogate any Black Ajah, because there aren't any around in Falme, but we could see the bubbles of evil, we could see the redstone doorway (Turak, as a collector of ancient oddities, might be the owner of it in his version), and we could get the beginnings of the Forsaken Civil War that is kinda happening around this time, as Lanfear works to defend Rand while another Forsaken is sending Shadowspawn to attack him. None of that really needs to happen in Tear specifically.

On an interpersonal level, we might get Rand and Egwene's final breakup in the first episode or so of s3. They've both been through so much, they're on different paths, etc.

The pace in the series has been pretty fast (the Seanchan showed up this season so much sooner than I expected).

New characters that s3 will introduce: Faile for sure; a bunch of Aiel for Rand & co to interact with; and Elayne & Nynaeve may still end up dealing with a Seanchan who was left behind when the Seanchan run away at the end of this season. They might introduce Melindhra next season, to give her relationship with Mat time to develop before the big betrayal. When I did my reread, I was actually really surprised at how little Melindhra there was. We'll probably be getting Moghedien and Asmodean, and potentially Rahvin or Graendal as well. We kinda need both a 'claim Rand' faction and a 'kill Rand' faction in the Forsaken.

We'll probably get an episode focused around the Battle of the Two Rivers (Perrin episode). Hopefully we'll get a focused episode for Rhuidean as well (Rand & Mat episode). So that's two out of eight. The coup should happen this season -- maybe that will be our big midpoint moment, when the momentum of the season shifts? That's three. And the finale would be Rand at Alcair Dal & then capturing Asmodean, while Nynaeve faces off against Moghedien?

So: first episodes does the setup of expectations for the season; then we travel to our new locations from Falme; we get introduced to Caemlyn at some point (are we going to have multiple episodes with scenes in Caemlyn?); boom the coup happens; boom Rhuidean happens; boom the Battle of the Two Rivers happens; then Rand goes to announce himself as Car'a'carn and faces off against Asmodean and ends up with him as a captive teacher.

ep1: Falme taking the place of Tear in terms of set-up events

ep2: having left Falme at the end of ep1, we arrive at our destinations? maybe this is Egwene & Elayne's Accepted tests

ep3: Perrin arrives in the Two Rivers, Wondergirls leave the Tower (again), Rand arrives in the 3FL

ep4: the Tower coup happens when Elaida arrives to find Elayne missing (again)

ep5: Rhuidean?

ep6: something something... maybe Nynaeve & Elayne's plotline?

ep7: battle of the Two Rivers

ep 8: alcair dal & asmodean

Things from the first four books left to be tackled in future books at that point: just the taking of Tear from the end of bk3, basically. Mat's luck, potentially, though that might still get introduced this season (not sure there's time but, hey, it very well could be).

It does make sense to me to wait on introducing Tear until Callandor actually matters in the story which isn't until... wow, The Path of Daggers, I think, is the first time that Callandor really matters in the story. That's when Rand uses it against the Seanchan and it messes him up and he ends up killing some of his own people. Which would mean that it wouldn't need to happen until even after The Box (TM) and Dumai's Wells and such. Is that right? That feels so late in the story for the book 3 Quest Item to actually matter!

Hmm, Tear as happening AFTER the kidnapping would basically make it replace Illian, which I could see working (Rand ruling Illian literally never matters narratively in the books - it's never really a full setting the way that Cairhien, Tear, or Caemlyn are; it has a strong emotional beat of Rand feeling like he's earned it as Rand al'Thor and not just the Dragon Reborn, but that kind of beat can be done in other ways).

idk it depends in part on how they're going to be handling Caemlyn and on Elayne's storylines, because she and Rand need a solid chunk of time together. How and when will the show carve out the time for them? Could the Black Ajah hunt actually lead our main players back to Cairhien, and they meet up with Rand there with the Aiel?

haha okay I am trying to peer WAY too far in the future and we just do not have enough information for that right now. I'm just way too impatient for tonight's episode, lol.

#wot speculation #wot #wheel of time #wot on prime #wot book spoilers #the path of daggers

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tournament-winners · 5 months

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before we get to it i promise im not actually a poll georg I just run a poll-collecting blog for my fandom so I have a lot of tournaments on hand. that said:

Multifandom:

AO3 top ships bracket

Badass queer couples tournament

Canon misogyny victims tournament

Chaotic neutral tournament

Cringefail loser summit

Crown and sash tournament

Dysfunctional family fight

Fell first / fell harder ships tournament

Found family tournament

Ghost bracket

Guess that ship tournament: s1 | s2 | s3 | s4 | s5 | s6 | s7

Guy yuri poll

Haunting the narrative tournament

Hybrid battle

Incredibly caked up individuals

MLM ship bracket: first | second

Overworked blorbo battle

Red-black aesthetic bout

Ungodly amounts of godly trauma

Would fuck their clone tournament

Semi-multifandom:

Queer books:

Queer book character tournament: s1 | s2 | champion battle

Queer book ship tournament

Webnovels (general): Aroace-spec webnovel character tournament

BL (general): Yaoi Election

Danmei (Chinese BL webnovels):

Danmei character tournament: popular | less popular brackets

Danmei tournament

Baihe (Chinese GL webnovels): Baihe character tournament

Asian BL TV shows:

Best kiss in a BL

Best siblings in a BL

Biggest green flag in a BL

Causer of gender envy in a BL

Most autistic swag in a BL

Most babygirl in a BL (Asian BL TV shows)

Most bisexual swag in a BL (Asian BL TV shows)

Most whipped character in a BL

Poorest little meow meow in a BL

Mo Xiang Tong Xiu's novels:

MXTX character you most want to study like a bug tournament

Ultimate MXTX poor little meow meow

Single fandom:

Great battle of The Untamed couples (The Untamed/Chen Qing Ling)

SVSSS character tournament (The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System)

TGCF character tournament (Heaven Official's Blessing/Tian Guan Ci Fu)

Tournament of Jiang Cheng's lovers (Mo Dao Zu Shi/Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation)

wow this is a lot! thank you!

#time for a rb spree #not a winner

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insomniactalks · 2 years

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Since you used to shipped Rina but now you shipped Portwell Which ship do you think will be the series endgame Portwell or Rina (assuming Joshua, Matt and Sofia stay on the show until the very end)?

Thanks for your ask anon! ❤ I wanna start by saying everyone is entitled to theorize who will be the endgame on the show, no matter what they ship. To each their own. 😁

In my opinion, I think it's highly likely Portwell will be each other's series endgame. Rina could have a fair shot too, but I'm just not sure Ricky and Gina can help each other's characters progress in a positive way, romantically (I believe they can help one another as [best😄] friends tho). So far, the 2 seasons have proved Rina's relationship has been more beneficial to Ricky than to Gina (but I believe S3 could provide some balance for the two in their friendship. Ricky just has to put in the work to show that their friendship is a two-way street).

I know there has been much speculation about Matt/EJs future on the show since EJ is a senior who just graduated from East High. While I can understand some theories/spec suggesting (or hoping) S3 is EJs last season, I'm more inclined to believe EJ is here to stay on the show for the rest of HSMTMTS's run. Lemme explain. 😙

We know for a fact East High's Theater Club is an "extracurricular" (according to the Principal in 1.06). That means most of the events the show documents takes place after school, once regular periods are done. If EJ starts college in the fall, since he's an undergrad, the majority of his classes will take place in the morning/early afternoon hours. Depending on what he decides to major in, it's likely that he'll have to do 100 + volunteer hours in his specific field. If this happens to be film studies/producing/theater etc., I have no doubt Mazzara or Jenn would be more than happy to help him out. If EJ were to do his major-required service hours at East High, this would mean he would still be on the show because it all takes place after school/classes. I've seen some theories about him working at EH but that seems...iffy to me. I don't love that idea. 😐 As someone who has graduated from an American college for her bachelor's degree, I think it's way more likely EJ will have to do volunteer hours in his specific field for his major (which would take at least 2 semesters [or S4-5]). I doubt S3 is EJs last season. I'm pretty sure Tim already has plans in place to keep Matt's character on the show in an organic way. I mean, they mentioned EJ getting into a state school for a reason.🤷🏽‍♀️ I've seen some criticism from the fandom about EJ being a "loser" and wanting him to "move on with his life" beyond high school, but it's clear to me many of these ppl probably haven't attended their undergrad yet. Whether you like it or not, once you declare a major, you have to do a certain amount of hours in that field using the resources available to you. Why wouldn't EJ ask his former teachers for help in this? 🤦🏽‍♀️

That being said, I think it's very likely Matt, Sofia, and Josh will be on the show until the very end, especially since they're all core four members. I think S3 will be Gina making a final decision on whether or not she stays in Salt Lake. I personally theorize she will end the season wanting to move back with her mom (which would be completely selfless) but her mom surprises her by moving back to Utah, permanently (or for as long as they want). I think that would be the perfect way for the narrative to reward Gina for her selflessness on the show.🤗 EJ, like Gina, will also have to make a big decision on his future in S3. I suspect this would end in deciding to attend the state college he got into and major in something that he wants, not what his dad wants for him.

So far, it looks like Gina and EJs character arcs will continue to cross paths and help each other grow in a positive manner. They could very well encourage each other to make the right decisions on their futures in S3. In my opinion, given the narrative of the show, Portwell will be the endgame of the series. I think it's safe to say Redlyn and Seblos are deff endgame because they're side ships that don't have to deal with too much drama, while any of the Core4 ships are up for debate in terms of endgame. EJ/Gina/Nini/Ricky will always have to deal with most of the season's drama b/c they're the main characters. 😬 So, there's that. Regardless, I believe Portwell will be each other's endgame on the show. But it's perfectly fine if others disagree!😄 None of us write the show, so we don't really know what will happen in the future. We won't know about the endgames until the very last season of the show, and who knows when that will be.🤷🏽‍♀️ Right now, we should probably just enjoy the anticipation leading up to S3. I for one am so excited! I just know they're all going to look so good in their summer looks.😍☀️

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts speculation #hsmtmts s2 #hsmtmts s3 #gina porter #ej caswell #portwell #ej x gina #gina x ej #ricky bowen #rina #gina x ricky #ricky x gina #nini salazar roberts #redlyn #seblos #benjamin mazzara #miss jenn #thanks anon!

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readinginthereadyroom · 3 years

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okay, if the seven deadly sins are demons (spn 3x01) then shouldn’t the seven heavenly virtues be angels? chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility.

also interesting:

sloth goes after bobby. this makes sense if you consider that, until recently, bobby’s been semi-retired from hunting. he’s allowed to slow down, to put his feet up, and live in his comfortable home. he’s been a hunter for years (decades?) and has earned a little rest.

lust goes after dean. who was just accused of being hungry and lustful by envy a few scenes ago. I think it’s intersting that dean gets two—because what are they combined? longing. we’re not quite there yet, narratively, but a big part of dean’s story is his desire, his yearning, for something more than just hunting. he wants a family. a home.

he also manages to break free of lust’s non-consentual kissing. this is foreshadowing for famine (spn 5x14). who implies that dean’s dead inside because he’s not affected by him.

which I don’t buy. there is more happening here. but any more spec regarding famine will have to wait til I get to s5. so back to s3:

dean is currently in denial about selling his soul (that the light at the end of the the tunnel is hellfire). he’s wearing a mask of nonchalance and performing his masculinity so much. too much. it is after all, how he overcompensates for feeling...well anything (spn 2x11). it’s the veneer of personality originally crafted to appease his father’s expectations. the good little soldier and ladies man. except that it’s been cracking since john’s disappearance (aka the pilot) and it’s only back in force because he’s once again pretending to be fine. and it’s unfortunately his default setting.

but in this instance it works. for all the reasons above, dean is pretending to be the playboy. and it fools the demons. fools lust incarnate. so when she tries to distract him, he can break from her spell. because we’ve seen the real dean—the one who fell head over heels with cassie after just a couple weeks (spn 1x13). who appreciates people for who they are. the joyous flirt.

pride goes after sam (flanked by greed and gluttony). sam is the YED heir—the boy king. who’s already set himself above hunting on the throne of stanford and law school. who always needs to know more. know it all and be right to boot. sam the addict.

but also sam the leader. sam the researcher. sam the recovering addict (a storyline that should’ve gotten more attention, à la elementary’s sherlock). sam works hard and reaps the rewards, but he also extends himself to others. on one extreme he’s dean’s moral compass, on another he teaches himself sign language to better communicate with eileen. which makes sam not only an unwilling king among demons, but a prince among men.

all of our characters get their own hand-selected sins...but also the accompanying virtues.

#also there should’ve been an ep where the sins meet the virtues #and it’s a lighthearted comedy one #spn #spn 3x01 #spn 2x11 #spn 5x14 #seven deadly sins #dean winchester #bobby singer

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sometimesrosy · 4 years

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What elements make B/E such an obvious romantic obstacle to B/C, narratively, etc?

A lot really. I mean, first, with that time jump, we needed to see that Bellamy had grown and moved on from the trauma of earth. Who better to show that transformation than the grounder who represented betrayal and brutality and murder and war to him? The one who betrayed him and almost killed his sister and held him captive. To forgive HER means he’s over the s3 bizness where he treated all grounders as the enemy who deserved death just for existing in some cases. We SAW him learn the lessons, but with the time jump and B/E he now INHABITS it. He’s grown from it.

There’s also the parallels between CL and B/E. first alliance, then betrayal, then kidnapping, then working together, then saving from sucide, then forgiveness, then love. I know some people consider CL to be endgame, but my theory here is based on CL being over, for important reasons within the narrative. So to parallel two relationships that are important and transformative, but not endgame, and to show the longer pace of B/E which shows that Bellamy was healthier than Clarke was, is a sign of character development.

Bellamy needed a relationship in order to move forward on the ship, so he wasn’t a wreck. He needed to be a whole person, who COULD live without Clarke, because the Bellarke relationship is a relationship of equals, and it’s NOT codependent. They don’t fill in the holes of the other person. They are not INCOMPLETE without each other, They needed to be shown as complete people on their own. So showing that he’d not been destroyed by her loss meant having him accept love, accept that he deserved love. Therefore, he needed a healthy relationship.

OKAY. This turned out to be A TOTAL EPIC post. And it’s too long so after the jump. STay tuned.

IT COULD NOT BE RAVEN. Wanna know why? Because Raven has her own journey. And she CAN NOT be second choice, because of her problems with finn and clarke in s1. Raven needs someone to be head over heels over her, if she’s going to have anyone. And if Bellamy had been in a relationship with Raven, CLARKE would always be standing between them. And with Clarke’s resurrection, Bellamy’s SOULMATE, Raven would be cast into second place, thus ruining Raven’s character arc, and putting Clarke into the SAME narrative of being the other woman, without any development. This would be a failure of storytelling, lacking growth and transformation which is NECESSARY for this story.

As long as Bellarke is endgame, Br/aven could NOT happen. If Bellarke is NOT endgame, Br/aven is actually the CLEAR AND OBVIOUS choice for Bellamy’s next relationship. They already love and respect and like each other. Raven is a major character. The audience loves and wants them both happy. If Bellarke were not endgame, then Br/aven would have been. If Bellarke were PLATONIC, for real? Then Br/aven should have been developing all this time. But since Bellarke is an endgame romance, Br/aven CAN NOT happen romantically.

THUS they needed a character to be his romance, to show him moving on, but it couldn’t be a character who was TOO essential that we would replace Bellarke with that ship, as would have happened with br/aven. Although it also needed to be a character who was tied to the major issues we’ve been dealing with, someone who maybe reminds him a little of Clarke even. Enter Echo. betrayals, ruthless, sneaky, beautiful, cheated in the conclave, almost killed his sister, does whatever she has to to save her people, loyal.

I’d also like to bring up Echo’s name. And I think her name DOES matter. At first I thought it was because she was an ECHO of CL and that betrayal for Bellamy. The myth of Echo, as the nymph who pined after Narcissus didn’t make sense to me, as Bellamy wasn’t a narcissist in love with his own reflection... UNTIL someone made the point that the classical concept of soulmates was one soul split into two bodies, so a person and their reflection COULD be a metaphor for this soulmate concept. Which made Bellamy in love with his reflection/soullmate Clarke, which now ENTIRELY fit the Echo and Narcissus myth. Echo is in love with Bellamy who is obsessed with his soulmate Clarke (who in s6 was ‘behind the glass’ like a mirror image! huh. Who was it that posted that theory!? that sounds like a confirmation to me.) Now again, Clarke and Bellamy are separated by this distance, and Echo goes in to find him? I hope Echo doesn’t fade away like her namesake did, but it’s possible. But Narcissus also dies at the river, in love with his reflection, becoming flowers, right? This actually fits my spec that Bellarke will “die” but in reality just be separated from their family and live out their lives in pastoral happily ever after. Anyway. The myth of Echo and Narcissus, means Echo is NOT the soulmate.

Also. JR said Clarke and Bellamy were soulmates. And fine, I don’t use commentary in my analysis... but I do if it fits, and this fits. They are SHOWN as being soulmates from season 4 AT LEAST. “you center her.” “you got it backwards.” for an example.

Okay, but now lets get to the narrative. What I told you before is more about storytelling and tropes and character development. Or HOW you tell a story. Now we’ll get to canon evidence. There’s still some storytelling in there. I’m gonna start with s5, because that’s when romantic b/e showed up.

This was the big sign to me of what was going on with Bellarke and B/E.

The first episode of s5 was almost ALL Clarke. We were focused on her survival in the wastes. We were given access to her feelings and thoughts and pov. We were given her monologue. Which was not a monologue.

It was a conversation, one way, with Bellamy. The voiceover of 5.01 was Clarke making her 2199 radio calls. Which is a romantic trope. They were, essentially like a diary, or love letters, or even a prayer, in a way. For that little bit of the story, in fact, huh. We could almost think of that whole episode as being Clarke’s tales of survival, told to Bellamy as a kind of epistolary tale. What we see IS what she said to Bellamy. Hmm. That’s interesting.

ANYWAY. My point was. The audience is put square inside Clarke’s head, and her head is “why haven’t you come home,” and talking to Bellamy and missing him.

THEN we get the scene where Clarke is talking to Madi about them, and missing them and then the camera pan up through the stars to Bellamy looking down on them, unknowingly, at the valley.

THIS IS THE MOST POETIC THE MOST ROMANTIC SHOT IN THE WHOLE SHOW. MAYBE IN EVERY SHOW EVER. It is a poem. She yearns for him, across time, beyond the stars, and he’s looking down on her, thinking she is dead, and the INFERENCE is that he’s yearning for her too, past death.

A love that literally lasts past death time and space. ULTIMATE EPIC LOVE STORY. And they are finally going to be reunited. AH, resolution for their separation and their love.

AND THEN... dun dun dunnnn, the plot thickens.

Out of nowhere, the reveal that Bellamy and Echo ARE LOVERS.

BAM! OBSTACLE. more, ROMANTIC obstacle.

Clarke’s yearning was romantic in nature. We don’t see inside Bellamy’s head, but making the obstacle to their reunion no longer tech, but instead an established romance, means that the narrative has set Bellarke on a romantic path. Because otherwise another romance would not be an obstacle. Heck, Echo is not against Clarke. Even when she was threatening her life she wasn’t really against Clarke. She gets her. As a leader and partner, she gets her. Echo is ONLY an obstacle if the goal is a romantic relationship between Clarke and Bellamy.

That it’s set up this way, as a shock, is part of the romantic narrative.

THIS is on purpose a slap in the face. Because the audience has been set up to want them to come home TO CLARKE, to want a Bellarke reunion and to FEEL that they belong together.

THEN when Echo is sure things will change between them, and Bellamy assures her that nothing will change between them on the ground, this is what’s known as DRAMATIC IRONY. The audience knows that Clarke is alive, they know that the bellarke bond is epic, they know that Clarke is yearning in a romantic way, they know that when Bellamy finds out that Clarke is alive EVERYTHING will change with his relationship with E.

But then, we get a misdirect, or rather, a plot obstacle to B/E. Octavia is not forgiving and she’s scarier than ever.

B/E is set up from the VERY BEGINNING as a romantic obstacle.

Then to prove it, we get

Clarke’s VERY shocked and jealous face when B/E reunites and kiss. That the camera focuses on HER, shows her watching them, and not on THEM means the main emotional weight of the scene is not the lovely reunion between loving partners, (thank god you’re ok i was so worried i’m so glad to see you again love love love,) but rather on clarke. (omg bellamy is kissing someone. bellamy is not mine. heartbreak, jealousy, shock!) See the focus is NOT on the established relationship, the B/E leg of the love triangle, but on CLARKE, the pining one, the one whose love is unrequited. The soulmate.

IF B/E were endgame, the focus would have been on the relief of the reunited lovers. But we’ve just spent like two episodes on the reunited (non-romantic apparently) soulmates, and the CANON relationship can’t even get an infocus shot?

A close up of someone’s face means the narrative wants us to feel their EMOTIONS. We got lots of those when Clarke and Bellamy reunited, when they hugged, when they struggled to regain their connection. But with the B/E reunion. Their faces were obscured, not shown, blurred.

Ok. And YES, Bellamy then moves on to focus on Echo and B/E, and saving her from Octavia, and that is to show that B/E is real. Because no obstacle that is not made real is going to be enough to really scare the audience into worrying that it could stop our heroes from their goal. IT HAS to be real. But even while Bellamy is proving to O that he loves Echo, the focus is NOT really on B/E, but on the Blakes relationship. And on Bellamy and Octavia. This is teaching us who they are now, after 6 years apart.

Then there’s a love scene between B/E, or half a love scene anyway. The beginning. It is cut off in the middle and cuts to CLARKE getting ready to leave.. Oddly, the music for the scene stays the same, which CONNECTS the two scenes. A LOVE SCENE cut with a LEAVING SCENE. An established romance confirmed, a pining soulmate leaving aka giving up. And in the next scene, we get this dynamic reinforced... however, there is a change. The romantic couple is confirmed again, while Clarke watches. HERE we are shown a closeup of her face, tears in her eyes, all about how she feels about their relationship, after the close up of their faces I think, and sadness and love yes. this is real. Then Clarke steps back, straighten her shoulders and accepts it. She won’t interfere. He’s not hers to love. HOWEVER, then Echo LEAVES. The established couple separates. And we turn to Clarke and Bellamy immediately he knew she was there somehow.

While B/E are split up, Bellarke are brought back together, although at this point they are non romantic, with each member choosing Echo for him. And we spend many episodes with them rediscovering their soulmate bond and getting closer and more intimate as they do so. While Echo has her OWN narrative and it has nothing to do with Bellamy or b/E.

This leads to Bellarke making pledges to each other, over her daughter, and he swears to take care of Madi when/if Clarke dies. Bellamy promises to parent his soulmates daughter while his canon girlfriend is off risking her life. They bond as, well, co parents. Making them a family unit, Mother, Father and Daughter, though no romantic or sexual relationship between the two?

Not so fast.

“Another traitor who you love.” Octavia lays out the issue. Bellamy loves Echo. Bellamy loves Clarke. She is comparing Echo and Clarke in his love. This is a ROMANTIC love comparison. She’s goading him. He doesn’t take the bait. Because he has a plan.

Bellamy sacrifices his sister for Clarke’s life. Poisoning her. His sister who has been established as the person who means more to him than anyone else in the world. When it was O or E? He chose O and let E go off on a suicide mission to win a place with wonkru. When it was O or C? He chose C and poisoned O. That is an equation. Bellamy loves these three women. C more than O. O more than E. C>O>E. When compared, Clarke wins over Echo. If Octavia made it clear that the love is romantic, then Bellamy made it clear that his love for Clarke is deeper than his love for Echo, even if he’s not ready to face that or deal with it.

AND THEN SHE LEAVES HIM TO THE PIT. He knew he��d betrayed Clarke, but it is confirmation to him that Clarke does not return his feelings. So, when that’s sorted out, he has a moment where he’s choosing between Clarke and Echo (the earth vs the sword, it’s a heavy handed bit of symbolism so we don’t miss it.) He chooses Echo. It’s the logical choice. Head over heart.

MEANWHILE, Echo and Clarke are having their own life or death convo. In which we find out that Bellamy loves Echo, Echo loves Bellamy, Clarke always cared for Bellamy but thinks him dead at her hand. NOT SO FAST. Bellamy is alive, “oh now you care?” AND THEN, revelation from the past FlameLxa tells her love is not a weakness, she was wrong to betray Clarke (canon love) and Clarke should not do the same thing (betray her love bellamy.) Remember also CL and B/E are paralleled. Remember also all the same players were at MW the original betrayal. L walked away, Echo walked away, Bellamy was under the ground, and Clarke stayed to get to him. it’s just interesting. So in the end, Clarke betrayed ELigius, spares Echo and sends her daughter (another love equation. Clarke canon loved Lxa, but she tells Madi she loves her SO much more than Lxa. Now she risks her greatest love Madi to war in order to save Bellamy. Here’s the equation. Clarke loves Bellamy>Madi>Lxa. We have two equations using actions to prove a primacy in love. Clarke love Bellamy more than all of her other great loves. Bellamy loves Clarke more than all of her great loves.

HOWEVER B/E comes back together to fight. As a couple. It is a couple reunion, but not as romantic as their first reunion, or their goodbye. THEN, they are fighting together and it isn’t romantic. And from there to the end of the season, the B/E romance disappears.

HOWEVER, Bellamy learns that Clarke cares for him so much that she called him every day for six years. That changes his perception of Clarke, and how Clarke feels for him, and when she urges him to come in, he says, broken, I can’t leave them behind. “Not again.” With the understanding that leaving HER behind was the trauma that he can’t do again.

So where did B/E go? It doesn’t matter. It’s literally not important to the narrative. Echo literally goes to sleep. B/E is frozen. What is important. Bellarke’s intimacies of saying goodbye to their families and their connection that is still there. And THEN them waking up TOGETHER and facing the loss of Monty, the revelations, the new world AND the commitment to be better, to be the good guys, together.

Known: B/E is a canon relationship. Clarke loves Bellamy and has been pining for him for six years. Bellamy loves Clarke but has moved on though he cannot ignore his feelings for her. Bellamy CHOSES Echo, but Echo keeps disappearing from his story while he focuses on Clarke and their relationship.

HOW do I know Echo is the romantic obstacle and Bellarke is the endgame rather than Clarke being the romantic obstacle and B/E being endgame?

Because the story focuses on the deepening relationship fo Bellarke, while his attachment to Echo stops it from moving forward. It focuses on the FEELINGS of Clarke about B/E, but not the feelings of Echo about Bellarke. It is never even presented. Her feelings are absent, when if her ship was endgame it would be about her feeligns at least partly. Now we do seem BELLAMY’S feelings, but his feelings which start out as about Echo vs Octavia, who hates Echo, shift and become Clarke vs Echo... evenn though Clarke does NOT hate Echo and accepts her just fine. So what is the conflict?

The conflict is that he can’t have competing feelings fo Clarke if he loves Echo. That means his feelings are ROMANTIC.

YES. He does choose Echo near the end of s5. This is because Clarke leaves him to die. Not because his feelings for her are not as strong (remember C>O>E) but because HER feelings seem to show she doesn’t care about him. UNTIL Madi spills the beans, and then he shifts back to Clarke a bit, even though his choice is STILL Echo.

Bellamy loves Clarke but thinks Clarke doesn’t love him so he chooses Echo.

Clarke thinks Bellamy loves Echo and not her, so she refuses to show him or admit to him that she loves him and she attempts to move on and keep him as her “platonic” soulmate.

Echo loves Bellamy and Bellamy loves Echo but Echo has no idea Bellamy also loves Clarke or that he is deciding between Clarke and herself. She has no say in this narrative. It’s not about her. It’s about Clarke and Bellamy. She thought the problem was Octavia. And while that’s a problem, it doesn’t affect Bellamy’s feelings for her.

Echo has done nothing to make him not love her. Their relationship has remained stable. The only change is that there is another love in the equation. That Clarke’s existence puts B/E into jeopardy means that the Bellarke love is AT LEAST as strong as the B/E love. Possibly more... the love equation says more, but we will get more proof of that in season 6.

When we actually see the love triangle thrown into comparison CONSTANTLY. S5 had Bellarke and B/E separated. We got very few shots of them all together, and when we do, it’s Clarke’s jealousy and dismay on display.

However in s6, right from the beginning, the shots have all three of them in view. With Echo between Bellarke or Clarke between B/E often. Oddly, we also see Echo supporting Clarke. Or not that oddly. They’re a lot alike. She’s not competitive with Clarke, though. Even though there IS a competition. She does’t know about it. We see Bellamy choosing B/E with Clarke on the outside in ep1, but by the time they get to Sanctum, we start to see Bellamy choosing Clarke, or Clarke AND Echo (come look at this echo) with his focus on Clarke not E. We see him REACHING OUT to Clarke. (commiserating about raising their adopted kids without school, then the radio calls conversation which she runs away from because she’s scared.) Even in the eclipse psychosis, he goes after Echo first, but then turns his attention to Clarke. Murphy gets in the way as he always does, but he ignores everyone else.

As time goes on, though, we get a NEW dynamic. He’s starting to argue with Echo. It’s over Octavia mostly, but Clarke and Bellamy use Octavia to speak about their feelings for one another, without admitting them, so is that happening here? He’s using the argument over Octavia to express his feelings of frustration and distance with Echo?

Look. I’ve been showing you the love triangle. It is a CANON love triangle, which means B/E is romantic and requited and Bellarke is romantic although it’s unrequited.

I need to show the love triangle in order for B/E to be A ROMANTIC OBSTACLE.

But just showing the love triangle means it could be B/E that is the endgame and Bellarke that is the love triangle.

How do we know this isn’t the story?

Well aside from the love equations. We see Bellarke get closer while we see B/E bickering constantly over tactics, over octavia, over feelings, in season 6a. Clarke talks to him about her regret over the pit. The making amends scene is actually pivotal in their relationship. In the C/B/E love triangle.

He accepts Clarke’s amends, and her claim that he is so important to her. He didn’t want to talk about it. But she is open and they are intimate. Cut to Clarke being PHYSICALLY intimate with Cillian, and Bellamy looking on with all sorts of emotions in his face. Sorrow, happiness, pining, regret, jealousy, acceptance, longing, who knows? And we IMMEDIATELY get Echo coming up, trying to talk to him about Octavia, and him turning ViCIOUS on her, blaming her for not being human, not being emotional, not being open (which clarke just was and is.) He’s STILL watching Clarke. B/E is falling apart, not because of anything that Echo did, but because of something that Clarke did, again. HER actions are the deciding factor, and HIS emotions are where the choice is coming in. Echo has no control over it. Her emotions don’t matter. Her actions don’t affect it. He is not a character who has agency over this storyline, over her own relationship. This scene leads to Clarke being betrayed at the same time that Bellamy apologizes to Echo and Echo, FINALLY, opens up to Bellamy about her past.

For the first time, Echo has agency in how her relationship goes, and Bellamy admits he’s a dick and commits to Echo. NOW. If this story were ABOUT B/E as endgame, this would be the point where their relationship rises to new heights and becomes stronger.

Instead. Clarke dies. And Bellamy’s attention and emotions go to CLARKE. Even when she’s dead dead, all he can think about is not having Clarke, how it’s not living, Echo comforts him but it goes nowhere. Instead, we see him grieving ALONE. Echo is willing to destroy everyone, but Bellamy chooses what Clarke would do, and keeps everyone safe.

Until he finds out Clarke is alive, and then all bets are off and it’s a race to bring her back, canon, “you only care about Clarke.”

Yeah.

True.

Another pivotal scene. Bellamy leaves Echo to take care of their people and goes with Josephine to save Clarke. Echo says “Go save Clarke,” which is a parallel to Clarke telling Echo to “go save him.” Echo let Bellamy go to Clarke the same way that Clarke let Echo go to Bellamy.

We’ve now switched who the primary relationship is. It’s Bellarke, not B/E. Echo and Clarke made the choice to let the other woman “have him.” They gave up their claim.

Everything we see with Bellamy and Josephine acts as if Bellarke is romantic and the true love in his life. An epic love compared to Josephine and Gabriel DOZENS of times. And Bellamy’s last ditch save her from death scene is GLARINGLY romantic in the way that all the best fairytales are romantic.

There was never anything to compare to this in the B/E story.

The next morning, Bellarke talk about leaving Echo and spacekru behind to save Clarke, and Bellamy still isn’t willing for her to risk her life to save them, although she insists, and they agree to do it for Monty. SO MUCH INTIMACY. And Octavia witnessed it.

Their goodbye is more romantic and more intimate than Bellamy’s reunion with Echo, even though she was STATED as at risk and being in danger. She almost died. And all she got was a hug, much like he’d hugged Harper after the fighting pit.

The hug when Bellarke is reunited, however, is cast in romantic buttery light, with emotional close ups of their faces, and a rather intimate discussion of feelings and pain, with a parallel to their OTHER hug outside Camp Jaha, which was one of the pivotal moments in their relationship.

This in contrast to the pat on the back he gave Echo before this, and how Echo, who is standing right there, disappears from the scene.

The final scene after this Bellarke intimacy, has B/E back together. ExCEPT there is NO initmacy. He’s the leader, she’s the soldier. No feelings. Just defense and tactics.

From the beginning of season 6 to the end, Bellarke and B/E have switched placed. on the non-romantic/romantic scale. Comfort and intimacy goes to Bellarke. Team work goes to B/E.

THE JOURNEY of the love triangle switches from the primary leg being B/E with a side order of Bellarke partnership, to Bellarke with a side order of B/E partnership.

Technically, because we’ve had no time to sort out all these emotional issues with B/E (although we kind of have with Bellarke) B/E is still the canon ship.

But that’s just a matter of dealing with the plot point. Because the NARRATIVE is now about romantic Bellarke, and all that’s left to deal with in regards to the B/E romantic obstacle is how it ends. (And for Echo’s side, she has been focusing on Ash, and her own independence. They have set her up to have a self empowered storyline, which means she does not need and should not have a king anymore. Bellamy is her king, even now. And she needs to be her own person. Which means B/E is doomed even without Bellarke.)

Thus I have shown why C/B/E is a love triangle. Why Bellamy needed a relationship ANY WAY. I take for granted that Clarke was in love with Bellamy and he was her fantasy boyfriend over the time jump. That Bellarke is romantic as is B/E, that the show has created a love equation for both of them. How the love triangle is shown in s6. How B/E fades while Bellarke grows, and that B/E is the romantic obstacle while Bellarke is the soulmate endgame.

I’m so tired now.

#the 100 #bellarke #b/e #love triangle #romantic obstacle #c/b/e #romantic development #romantic tropes

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TUA s2 salt cont: Allison is a super interesting characters because of her flaws (honestly she seems like a bully who only through Claire wakes up to how she was acting) and growth but s2 falls into old habits of her needing to be needed romantically but pseudo old allison so fans can love her without her "problematic" behavior. Claire doesn't fit that narrative so they just don't mention her

The fact that Claire is only first mentioned in episode 8 (and for a final second time in episode 10) makes it feel like the writers completely forgot her existence up until that moment. Like someone consulted the character spec and realised they’d missed out her child.

You’re right that her flaws make her interesting. I certainly hope we get to see more of Allison (mis)using her powers in S3. Or at least flashbacks to her fully misusing them in her youth/early adulthood.

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I was really intrigued by your season 14 spec. I know we'll never know for sure but can you talk a little more about what you think Dabb originally planned for the season? Around which episode do you think it got changed?

Are you talking about the ghost structure of S14 anon? I still plan on updating my narrative structure over the years meta but in a nutshell I think the major beats were going to be:

Michael allows himself to get “eaten” by Jack as a kind of ultimate trap for God in order to bring him back out of hiding (the question of Jack’s soul is then forced to be debated/vague instead of immediately answered)

Jack kills Mary as a reprieve from her missing John (this is repurposed into an “accident”).

Jack brings back Lucifer when he feels abandoned by his family (this is repurposed into hallucinations that go nowhere in order to burn off the rest of Pellegrino’s contract).

Michael takes over Jack, turns on Lucifer and extracts the grace Lucifer stole from Jack and becomes as powerful as God (this is completely dropped and there’s less structural evidence for this than the rest, but it’s my ongoing theory)

The situation forces God to show himself again (it’s like Mousetrap and God is the rat who just got caught).

We go into the end of S14 with God playing victim again and inserting himself into the story. Lucifer would go on to get a redemption arc probably. S15 would end on God revealing his true colors. S16 would then start as the last season in the same way true S15 is about to.

The structure is burned at 14x15 (technically 14x14). I haven’t dug my 8x20 meta back out yet but I’m updating it in my drafts and in it I talk about the ghost structure of S8 briefly, where God (and not Metatron) was originally going to be at the end as the final boss to “beat”. Then there’s 8x22 where Crowley was “undoing” all the good the Winchesters did. Sounds like the start of S15? Yeah? Dabb’s S14 altered ending and S8’s original (show ending) ghost structure have a lot in common. I’m talking the bare bones of the writing. Playing God’s game and knowing how to stop playing. The Gates of Heaven and Hell in the balance. The building of allies. Saving Kevin/Jack. Castiel finally doing the right thing and it not blowing up in his face. Defeating the “father” by Dean embracing who he is and going after what he wants for himself. Sam learning who the real enemy is.

All the things I see people being excited about now, the things Dabb is now addressing in PR, these are things I remember us being excited about back when S8 aired and Dean began peeling back his layers in hopes of making it past the final level. We got burned then but not because the writers/showrunners were malicious. The show simply got renewed and the original S8 structure had to be burned. So now the original S8 ending meant to span the last three episodes can now be stretched into the entirety of S15.

I think Dabb, as a writer under Carver, was a big fan of S8’s original ghost structure. We see this in 8x08 imo. So it’s no wonder it was always going to go back to God and his mechanisms being the problem. If I were to go back and write narrative structure meta on S8 now, I feel I’d be forced to talk about this. I’m getting off track. Stuff like Jack mercy killing Mary? Lucifer actually returning? This is all in the foreshadowing and symbolism of 14x11-14x14. I can say these things would happen with great certainty. As well as God showing back up, just in a different way. The other stuff is in foreshadowing too (like with the Mousetrap game), just foreshadowing that comes AFTER the structure burn. I can only guess Dabb didn’t feel the need to instruct the writers to eliminate these bits because at that point he himself had to reconceptionalise his own episode. For all we know, he didn’t even inform them J2M decided to make S15 the end. This is BTS guesswork btw. The only thing I can point to that supports this theory is that the burnt structure’s foreshadowing still remains, bizarrely. Like with S3 and S8, the end of S14 will always stick out as “wrong” in this regard.

#ask zerbe #spn speculation #the ghost structure of s14 #the ghost structure of S8 #narrative structure #8x22 #8x21 #8x20 #14x11 #14x12 #14x13 #anonymous

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#449. S3 Ch.32: 52F - Transformation (3)

Assistants: Kim Yunhee, Dimensional BambooShoot, Jeon Soojin, What, Ham Chicken

Naver Endnote: Dogs and cats. It’d be weird if they didn’t fight. (Yasratcha is not a lyric but the name of the commander of the army.)

Hello, this is SIU. It's getting chilly now. Come to think of it, I started uploading when the cold just ended, but now that the weather’s cooling down again it's making my heart feel heavy haha. Reflecting on whether you've been doing good work, and whether you can continue it is a difficult task. Especially if you've been drawing for a long time.

This chapter... Bam cut off Gado's foot. Actually, we see Zon [TN: Canzon] use informal tense at Bam here, which is a tone shift from before, but when I had Zon use formal tense there, it was quite awkward... Zon is internally quite hostile to Bam, almost looking down on him, so the underlying thought process is that his true feelings came out in the heat of the moment. In this particular scene it flowed well, but it may have been awkward in the grand scheme of things. I thought whether I should change it for the main release after the previews, but I decided against it after trying some edits. (If you guys think otherwise, I do have plans for changing it and reuploading)

Anyway, it's Zon underestimating Bam -> Bam's attack -> a force that puts Zon's estimate to shame. Gado's feet getting cut off feels like it makes Bam OP, but Thorn + Red Thryssa buff is in play, and looking at the lore face value out looking at their specs, something even more over the top wouldn't have been crazy for these guys, so.... I feel like narratively I have to keep them in check normally and then jump forward on weeks like this. It's hard ^^; Manhwa is hard. In conclusion, Bam is a regular but is also REALLY dangerous...?

The fight between Yama and the Elder shaped up to be a normal fight, but it's suddenly going in a completely different direction. To think the fate the Elder saw last week is this... On a side note, the Elder and Soo-Oh’s teamwork seems rather brokenly powerful.

Honestly, as an author I wanted to have them start roadrollering them into the ground, but because this arc is a part of the fights yet to come, and Yama's opponent wasn't going to be the Elder but Yasratcha we saw at the end, so I used the Elder to send Yama to the 5th Corps. Haha... The fight at the Cage will continue hehe.

Now that I think of it, Yama is a slayer that has less than a years worth of panel time, but he's in one day getting involved with the Elder and Bam. Huh. The 5 Corps all of a sudden...

Many of you thought based on Doom's flashback that Yasratcha is the family head, however he is not the family head, but a Corps Commander from the Lo Po Bia family. I apologize for any misunderstandings. Well... Doom's honestly not someone that's even relevant enough to hold direct grudges against the family head. Anyway. Yasratcha. It's a cat. Cat.

Starting this week, the narrative will flow in a different direction. The story of the Cage will continue, of course. Actually it's always hard during this narrative splits, because there's no right answer. I keep asking if this was the right move or that constantly. Haha. But the best direction to move at the end of the day is forward, I think. That's how we came from the end of the cold season to the start of the cold season. Step by step is how I feel. When I look back, I think to myself I should have done better, I should have done better, but I keep moving forward.

This post got... ridiculously long it seems ^^;; I've been having a lot of different thoughts. My head's too small to even properly focus on Tower of God, but this is big, something regrettable. Living itself is a task, but living with your work is even harder.

I hope you all move forward as we go to the end of 2019. I will be back best week with another chapter.

Thank you!

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#yasratcha #yama #bam #gado #canzon #chapter comments #siu thoughts

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If there’s no discussion between Oliver and Felicity during 5x20 then I’m going to scream.

This has been an ongoing issue since S3. After all the lies and scheming, Olicity drove off into the sunset, then landed in suburbia without talking about the shitfest of the previous year. And to top it off, Felicity was clearly not feeling the vacation vibes and Oliver was totally OK with staying in fantasy land. So, not only did they not discuss all the craziness of Ra’s, they were on completely different spectrums in Ivy Town. It got worse when Oliver wanted to keep his life perfect by withholding William from Felicity, so now we’re at the point where Felicity and Oliver’s characterizations have gone down the drain to support this narrative.

They need a MATURE, FRANK discussion. They HAVE to talk about what’s hurt them, why they’ve acted the way they have, and idk a million other things. If they don’t, we’re going to get the same cycle all over again, and idk if I can stick around for that. There won’t be enough specs or metas to justify shitty writing at the expense of Olicity’s development (and mainly Felicity’s, but that’s a whole other post).

One pillow talk scene isn’t going to solve every problem, but I do hope 5x20 will be the first step in resolving this issue.

#if not i'll just have to stick with ff #sigh

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this is going to be the speediest speculation you have ever seen in your life because it is gone 3am and im losing my mind BUT. this little snippet? from rob wilkins? well i think - i think - i found what he was referring to.

in the frame behind the bentley and aziraphale, it's clearly flooded. we know the set was built within a studio, so elemental factors can't be at play here - this is deliberate. and noone seems to notice it, but it's very neatly framed between the two.

now, let's consider references to flooding re: second coming. well, matthew was a bullseye:

"as it was in the days of noah", there will be a flood that arrives when the second coming does. it will be there before anyone knew it, and swept them away. ergo, i think we can assume that the second coming has in fact already happened (still think it's greasy but whatever)

but also look at the splitting of humanity; sound familiar to the final fifteen? one will be taken, and the other left? marrying and giving in marriage - failed in our boys' case 💀 but did nina set a timeline, saying "one day", when she's ready to be with maggie?

also - people eating and drinking? sounds familiar also, when you consider how ham they went on pushing the vol-au-vents, the tiny dinners (thanks jim) on people at the ball.

im not okay.

#good omens #s3 narrative spec #second coming/last judgement theory #im not sure where jim walking on water in that poster fits in BUT IM CERTAIN IT DOES #am i genius for spotting this? bc i feel like a genius for spotting this

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Because I like theorizing about potential ships and you seem like the best person to go to for this, which do you find more intriguing? Bellamy/Echo or Bellamy/Luna? Personally, I'm really looking forward to seeing B&E interact/develop more as the season goes on. But then, I'm also curious about the potential between *peacefulLuna* and B struggling with trusting Grounders - to put it simply lol but I'd love to hear your thoughts on these 2 ships + potential!

You’re right nonny, I AM someone to come to with this because yesss let’s talk about pretty people mushing their faces together. I’m gonna take this in two parts: what I think is most interesting, and what I think is the direction the show is most likely to go.

For me personally, as firehot as I think Bellamy/Echo could be, I think Bellamy/Luna is more interesting. For one thing, the show has already done the “a grounder betrays a sky person, that sky person learns to forgive and love them anyway” twice now (cl.exa and memori), so I’d be up for something a little different this time around. For another thing, Echo is responsible for the death of Gina, something the show didn’t handle very well the first time around (as Gina was clearly created just to be fridged and I thought you were better than that, show) and so I’d rather see the show handle that head on rather than just be like “idk, it’s war” because that’s lazy. I also think “Bellamy learns to forgive Echo despite her being responsible for one of his major traumas” feels unnecessarily harsh on Bellamy, because everyone else on this show gets to make horrible mistakes and move on with lessons learned, but for some reason Bellamy has to pay for his mistakes first. And that sort of storyline with Echo would feel like more of the same and again, I want something different.

Bellamy/Luna, however, presents far more intriguing options to me. Luna has deliberately chosen non-violence despite the world she lives in, and I see Bellamy struggling with following that same path this season. He wants to “deserve to survive” as it were, and I think exploring a relationship with Luna would give him the opportunity to figure out how to do that without it seeming like punishment/self-flagellation. It would get across the same narrative of “Bellamy learns to trust grounders” that we’d get with Bellamy/Echo, but without the grossness of the show getting a boner for punishing Bellamy and not knowing what to do about Gina. Nadia is also incredibly pretty, and I for one am a slut for “pretty people making out” and thus it checks that box for me too.

However, for almost the exact same reasons as I listed above, I do think the show is more likely to go with Bellamy/Echo. I’m not entirely convinced that all the parallels we see are actually parallels so much as lazy writing, but “sky person forgives and loves a grounder despite betrayal” is definitely a story beat they seem to enjoy. They’ve also clearly set up Bellamy and Echo as foils for one another, and their story is definitely being portrayed as “unfinished” for now, because “Do you think we’ll ever be able to trust each other/I doubt it” is what we call Very Unsubtle Foreshadowing, my friends. In contrast, Bellamy barely seemed to interact with Luna in 314. In fact, I’m not sure they even had a conversation that didn’t include other people. That sort of complete narrative indifference to a character dynamic indicates to me that it’s not a relationship they’re really interested in exploring (and before anyone mentions the set visit video from Seat42F, I took Bob’s answer about Luna to be more of a “uh, I didn’t plan on answering a question about her because we have almost no scenes together so I’m just gonna say something vague and non-committal” dodge than anything else.)

All of that being said, however: I’d still be surprised if Bellamy/Echo went explicitly romantic. I would not rule out (and definitely wouldn’t be opposed to seeing) a scenario where Bellamy hits rock bottom and like, has grief/hatesex with Echo as a way of attempting to process the absolute mountain of feelings he’s dealing with right now, but the farthest I see his Echo feelings going this season is “downgraded from Hate Always to Grudgingly Trust.” If we take 401 as the place setting episode for s4, wherein they lay out where each character is emotionally at the start of the season and what each character is going to have to overcome, here’s what we have for Bellamy:

Current Emotional State:

Concerned About Octavia

Concerned About Clarke

Does Not Trust Echo Even The Slightest Bit

Worried He Doesn’t Deserve To Survive

What He Needs To Achieve This Season:

Learn To Let Octavia Make Her Own Mistakes

Learn to Believe He Is A Good Person

Learn To Trust Echo/Not Hold a Grudge

Clarke????

If you notice, everything but Clarke from the “current emotional state” list was addressed explicitly (and verbally) by 401. Clarke called out his worry about Octavia, Kane called out his worry about his soul, and Echo called out his distrust of her. Given the clusterfuck of s3 and ships, I’m not at all surprised that they left Concerned About Clarke as the only element uncommented upon, because if a character calls that out then the Build Up To Canon Bellarke has officially begun. And narratively, Le.xa died for the second time like, two hours ago, so I get why they felt it was too soon. (Because it was!) But the fact remains that the show repeatedly and bluntly emphasized “Bellamy is very worried about Clarke, even more so than he is worried about his sister, the one person he has consistently been shown to love above all others” throughout 401. I highly suspect the show is laying the ground work for something involving Bellarke and they just didn’t want to get accused of erasing L.exa right out of the gates. (And again: good. Let Clarke grieve one love interest for a bit instead of immediately introducing a new one. I disliked it in s2 and I’d dislike it now). So I suspect that if Becho is introduced at all, it’s going to be introduced as a complicating factor on the way to canon Bellarke rather than True And Everlasting Love.

Okay, one last thing I want to say about speculation before I wrap this up: I have absolutely no idea if any of the above is true. I could be totally wrong, because I don’t actually write the damn show. So if you read this and got upset that I think Becho might happen in some form, take heart in the fact that I am not an actual authority on the s4 plot and therefore this spec carries absolutely zero weight in real terms.

But the same also goes for my “I think they are building to bellarke” theory as well. I could be totally wrong. As my dear friend once said about show speculation: it doesn’t count if you promise it to yourself. I can look at the clues and say “I think this is what is going to happen,” but that’s all it means, okay?

#okay cool glad we cleared that up #the 100 speculation #adding some random tags #because I don't want this in the general tags right now #am I far enough I forget how many tags I need #here's on more just in case #becho #belluna #bellarke #Anonymous

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Elon Musk is about to reveal Tesla’s newest vehicle: The Model Y crossover

Elon Musk said Sunday that Tesla will unveil its Model Y crossover in less than two weeks, as questions about store closures, employee layoffs and demand in the wake of waning U.S. federal tax credits threaten the company’s growth narrative.

Tesla first unveiled the Model 3 at its Hawthorne, California, design studio in March 2016. Tesla product launches, which feature throngs of customers willing to put down deposits on the spot, are typically highly orchestrated affairs that generate enormous interest and media attention. American consumers are increasingly shifting from sedans to SUVs, and the Model Y is the next offering in the company’s product pipeline.

But the new model’s debut is prompting concerns about a potential cannibalization of sales at a time when investors are already worried about demand for the company’s cars.

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“While we suspect this could be a very good (and in-demand) product, we view the timing of the announcement as more fodder for the bears vs being a positive catalyst for the stock,” RBC Capital Markets analyst Joseph Spak wrote in a note to clients. With the consumer preference in the U.S. moving away from sedans to larger vehicles, announcing Model Y could also hurt demand for Model 3. “We had thought the company would unveil the vehicle closer to start of production to avoid likely cannibalization. Now, that risk seems greater,” Spak added.

Model Y unveil event on March 14 at LA Design Studio

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 3, 2019

Although the design unveiling comes in two weeks, the Model Y won’t be available to customers until much later. Baird analyst Ben Kallo doesn’t expect the car to be available for more than 18 months, and sees that potentially mitigating the risk of cannibalization.

“We think the SUV/CUV market is larger than sedan and growing more quickly in the United States, and we think the introduction of a more competitively-price[d] vehicle could drive higher sales and share gain,” Kallo wrote in a note.

In subsequent tweets Sunday, Musk said that the Model Y will have “normal” doors as opposed to the Falcon Wing doors that distinguished the Model X and the Model Y will cost about 10 per cent more than the Model 3 since it’s a larger SUV. The company’s pricing is largely based on the battery range offered.

Detailed specs & pricing will be provided, as well as test rides in Y

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 3, 2019

On Thursday, Tesla announced that customers can now order the US$35,000 Model 3 with the standard range battery, a long-awaited goal. The automaker also said it’s “winding down” many of its stores and shifting to an online sales strategy in a blog post, a move that caught many by surprise.

Tesla shares just had a manic week, swinging from a low of about US$289 to a high of US$320, as Musk tussled with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, said he didn’t expect Tesla to turn a profit in the first quarter and debuted a US$35,000 version of the Model 3.

The stock rose 1.2 per cent in pre-market trading Monday.

Tesla closed 7.8 per cent lower Friday, a move that financial analytics firm S3 Partners LLC said was driven by long shareholders as bears stuck to their guns.

On Tesla’s fourth-quarter earnings call in January, Musk said Tesla had completed the engineering and design of the Model Y and that “three-quarters of the Model Y is common with the Model 3.” The company may produce the vehicle at Tesla’s gigafactory east of Reno, Nevada, where batteries and powertrains are also made.

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took me a while to sound out why the final fifteen felt so isolated from all the other arguments that they've had before, but "they aren't talking" might have led me to arrive at why that is. because whilst we have the "so did i" and bandstand arguments to compare it to, the closest that the final fifteen mirrors, for me, is their very first one that we see on screen; the holy water incident (and I'm 100% sure others have observed this but im slow)

the incident where crowley has experienced something that he's playing down to aziraphale, asks aziraphale for something to help him that only aziraphale can give to him, it turns out to be too much to ask of aziraphale, so he refuses, and they split apart. turn all of this around on its head, and you have the final fifteen. (and im going to put the caveat here: no, i do not think aziraphale has been threatened by the metatron and is communicating this in code to crowley, but yes i do think he feels threatened by the metatron; i think he's genuinely eager to take this opportunity, but equally he's not stupid).

so then they go through 79 years of silence, of not talking, and come to 1941, where aziraphale lands himself in a spot of bother, and crowley breaks their silence by coming to the rescue. they get through the church fiasco, and aziraphale enlists crowley's help in the bullet catch ("trust me"), without ever discussing the holy water - all the while, their affection and love for each other is broiling just beneath the surface. perhaps it stands to reason that the same will happen in s3; that crowley will find himself in a Situation, aziraphale turns up to get him out of it - using it as an Excuse - and they end up on the subject of the second coming etc., and crowley reluctantly agrees to help resolve it, but only with the unspoken provision that they, absolutely, do not discuss what happened in the bookshop.

but what about the missing scene of 1941? well, there have been hundreds of different speculations of what could have happened; they actually do discuss the holy water, or there's otherwise a bit of a vulnerable heart-to-heart, there's a kiss, there's an almost-kiss, there's a fight involving the zombies, the derringer comes out to play, crowley gets yanked back to hell again, or gets discorporated... but whatever happens evidently informs on the atmosphere attributable in 1967 - because it's not until 1967 that aziraphale considers his hand forced, cares so much for crowley that he'll do the very thing that he's previously refused to do - gives crowley the holy water - but then puts distance between them again. perhaps the same kinda of thing happens somewhere around ep3/4 of s3; that they finally get to a point where what happened - the kiss, the offer, the mutual rejection - can't be ignored any longer, and a full-bore-full-roar argument erupts at perhaps the most inopportune time, to the point it's just comical, leading them to the point where they finally both understand where they stand with each other, what the other meant, and wanted.

so look, im not saying that crowley is suddenly going to change his mind about going to heaven, in order to track with aziraphale's 180° on the holy water; that doesn't make much sense. and it similarly doesn't make much sense for them to create distance between them like they seem to have done in 1967. if anything, this time it's the impetus they need to get everything out and laid bare, nothing bitten back, nothing squashed down and restrained. "you go too fast for me" suddenly becomes "we're finally on the same page."

#i doubt this is a revelation to anyone else but me #good omens #feral domestic/final fifteen meta #flashback meta #1941 spec #s3 narrative spec

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thesherrinfordfacility · 8 months

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it was about the coffee

edit 24/11: rip miracle blocker theory, my love

but possibly not the way we thought it was. this is going to sound so convoluted but bear with me here (and big thanks to the anon that precipitated this theory, and major apologies that writing this theory is only going to delay my answer to your ask even further💕)

a major plot-point for me in s2 was this bad boy:

which i think we can safely say is a very op power for demons to possess for it not to come up again later on in the show? it's almost like a parallel to the book of life on that front - which is mentioned in the bookshop in ep6, but we've all agreed is pretty much going to be a major chekhov's gun in s3, right? well, what about the miracle blocker?

why wouldn't shax think of getting one either from furfur or from beelzebub when storming the bookshop? well, could be that shax didn't think of it. true - but i do wonder if something iffy was in fact going on in ep5/ep6 showdown, right up into the Final Fifteen.

let's start here: aziraphale has got some reality-bending bullshit going on, which i think is possibly just naturally emanating from aziraphale himself (im not wholly convinced it's entirely in-character for him to purposefully fuck with people's heads and autonomy) and perhaps the dancing/outfits/emotions etc is just the image he wanted for the dance, and his magic (?) essentially made it happen, so much so that he was potentially taken in by it too... hence why he was so readily resistant to crowley's pleas to listen to him about the danger? idk, getting sidetracked.

but anyway, then the demons come, and we see the below where... randomly, aziraphale's miracles/magic doesn't work. and there's no given reason for it:

soon after this, aziraphale opens the portal; one thing on reflection? that portal opens damn fucking fast. sure, the peril is high, certainly higher than s1 when he had to pray and practically beg to speak to someone... but if the portal is more or less for metatron's direct use, and the metatron is so damn busy, being the voice of god... why would he be sat there waiting for a call?

s1, the time between aziraphale starting to pray/dial 9-1-heaven, and the portal opening (excluding where he shouts to shadwell that the shop is closed) is just over 31 seconds. s2, from "hello, is there anybody there" to portal opening is just over 5. a very short cut-down for a retired, traitorous angel, regardless of whether they're under attack (which, tbh, would be in heaven's interests, right? for aziraphale to get Got?). the explanation for that can only be, in my book, that metatron has been watching... and possibly has been since the first time the portal opened.

anyway, we then move on to metatron arriving at the bookshop, and offering aziraphale the coffee. others have reported a miracle chime, and tbh i too can hear at least a faint, high strong, that sounds out of place in the ambient sound of the scene. video below, where ive marked out where i can hear it:

we know that aziraphale doesn't drink coffee. tea, hot chocolate, wine... but he's never, as far as we've seen, canonically drunk coffee. he must have tried it at some point, crowley likes it/drinks it, so why wouldn't aziraphale have tried it at some point? well, i think he probably has, and didn't like it. i think he tried to change it, in front of the metatron, so he could take a sip and not be offensive. but... it doesn't work. aziraphale's reaction is awkward. and metatron's reaction is smug. i think metatron has a miracle blocker.

aziraphale is not stupid. i think he knows possibly from that moment, or very soon after, that metatron has been up to something. i think he knows that metatron might have eyes and ears everywhere. i think aziraphale has worked out that metatron is not in fact A Nice Old Man, and knows it right through until he gets in the lift (which im going to talk about more in the aforementioned anon ask). i don't think aziraphale has been overtly threatened, because the metatron has worked so hard in this scene to be non-threatening. but he has underestimated how smart aziraphale actually is.

making the offer to reform heaven appeals to aziraphale, there is no doubt on that. and aziraphale is desperate for crowley to be with him - not only on the layer of wanting to be together, or another layer of crowley deserving to have heaven make amends to him, or even the layer wanting to protect crowley under his status as supreme archangel... but because if aziraphale walks away, without crowley, crowley has nowhere safe to go. the bookshop has been compromised, and it is no longer safe. metatron with his almond syrup has Eyes and Ears everywhere. when crowley refuses, aziraphale has to get to heaven, and to metatron, before they get to him.

i do completely believe that aziraphale wants to help heaven, and possibly seek any way in which he can return it to what he thinks or believes was god's original purpose for it - to return or make it into the place that was always meant to stand for good and justice and love. but i also believe that now, more than ever, aziraphale teeters on the edge of giving heaven a chance - or being burnt to ashes, literally or figuratively. idk about you, but i have a gut feeling on what option he, in this moment, would be inclined to take.

#good omens #metatron spec #s3 narrative spec #sanctuary/bentley theory #feral domestic/final fifteen meta #s2 meta

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