#strangetr things

[coniangray]

The proud princess, the lost knight and the flowers in the cave

In s1 ep 8, the party plays DND and after they finish their campaign, Dustin, Lucas and Will respectively asked what happened to the lost knight, the proud princess and those wierd flowers in the cave.

Now, I do believe that the order they said this and who said what is also symbolic, but first I want to start with this general symbolism:

We only see one knight in the whole show, and he was also crowned as the leader, the heart of the group, who is only mike wheeler in the painting with the whole party fighting the thessalhydra/tiamat.

So, in those words, mike is the knight.

It doesn't take much to realize that the proud princess is El, given how she's the only one who not only turned out proud of her powers and who she is as a whole by the end of s4, but also the only one involved with flowers.

The weird flowers in the cave:

In s4 ep1, El mentions how she missed the spring flowers in Hawkins, but she finds it pretty in Lenora too

In s4 ep2, mike, after reading the letter El sent him, collects a bouguet of purple, yellow and pink flowers to gift to El once he'd arrive in Lenora.

(tagged from mike)

In s4 ep9, the flowers "in the cave" are rotting, as the upside down is taking over and bleeding into Hawkins, therefore destroying what they know as their reality.

So, what about them?

The flowers in the begging of s4 are bloomed, untouched by any upside down infection, but yet had to be cut in order to be given as a gift. This mugh be me over exaggerating, but I do think that cutting the flowers (in this case having someone else to do it, since that wasn't Mike's handwriting in the card to begin with, aka he most likely told Karen to buy flowers from Hawkins/ just a hc) might be him pretending that everything is great in their relationship.

BUT

The flowers literally rot in the end of s4, and as we see, El is in front of the others while mike is standing next to will

Therefore, the proud princess has finally accepted herself and therefore is proud of that.

The lost knight is still lost, unable to figure out his unrequired love for the cleric.

And the flowers are rotting.

And the cave?

I'd like to believe that the cave is the upside down itself. This is the blind leading the blind but I'd love to think how the "cave" works as a metaphor for either the gates or the upside down to complete this sense of closeness and fear of the unknown.

Who said what, and why they said it:

This is most likely stupid, but I think that Lucas saying about the lost princess emphasizes the foreshadowing of him trying to get mike back with el in s3 and that Dustin saying the knight also respectively foreshadows him and Mike joining hellfire and coming closer by time.

To add insult to injury, I think that will said the flowers in the cave to foreshadow the love triangle between will, mike and el and the whole situation with the flowers in s4.

Now reminder that this was just a silly scene as a conclusion to s1 which can also mean nothing, but I think the duffers give a laugh about those subtle hints about this scene.

If you want more info about el's letter and how she covered her hard time in Lenora with lies targeted towards mike, you can click here

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[coniangray]

This paralel might be more important than we think

mother and son parraleling each other?? in two sepatrate seasons???

Joyce was the odd one out in s1 bc she was the first person and only one who felt a connection to will in the upside down. Yes, el was connected to him too but in the way joyce was. You ight say this was just maternal instinct of some sort but lets be real, its not just this.

I think joyce byers has powers, more like a sixth sense, and thats why she could sense will more than anyone else.

Her connection to will is stronger than we think thanks to this scene:

This is not just worry, Joyce sensed something was gonna happen, and thats what kept her on edge. This acknoledging sense was all over s2 as well, because of how she reacted to her sons syptoms after he got posessed by the mindflayer after that halloween night.

And heres where she differs from virginia aka henrys mother:

Joyce was always there for her son no matter what while virginia called henry a monster just because of his powers.

thats it i dont have anyting else cus I NEED THE DAMN PLAY IN STREAMING

#no beta we die like my respect for noah schnapp #stranger things #st5 #st5 leaks #st5 theory #stranger things 5 theory #coniangray #strangetr things #stranger things 5 #explore #joyce byers #joyce byers has powers #BECAUSE HOW ON EARTH DID SHE RECOGNISE BRENNER???? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME #AHHHHHHHHH #TERRY JOYCE PARALELS HELP ME

[coniangray]

More proof for the jancy/ stancy debate & screws

Chapter 5: the nina project we see nancy and steve undoing the screws in order to get to the creel house and investigate.

And by undoing, they are resolving a step to go forward in the case of vecna and figure out the clues in front of them. In that same scene later on, steve messes up the sherlock line, while tryna flirt with nance.

Taking this in context of their relationship:

steve messed up with nancy, as he himself admitted in s1 ep8 the upside down, plus given the whole flower thing in s2 and how steve wanted to apologize while going at the wheelers when she wasnt there.

So, considering all visible clues, steve and nancy are unlikely to end up together. bonus points when steve admitted he was crawling backwards in s4ep

BUT

S4ep9: The piggyback, jonathan and nancy are building the window together by screwing in the screws and therefore proteecting the cabin and el at the same time.

PLUS: the joke that jonathan made for steves "leadership" and "who wwould be in charge"

To me at least that sounds like jonathan trusts nancy despite their problems.

Anyways, its late so heres some additional stuff from august of 2022:

#coniangray #jancy #stancy #jonathan byers #nancy wheeler #steve harrington #theory #its 2 am rn and i am SO back on track with these theories #im just watching st s4 lol thats why im rambling #yapping #arty #rambling #nancy #strangetr things #lol #no beta we die like my respect for noah schnapp #your son looks like a girl #lmao