#synflow

[9-w-1]

Synflow and Contraflow are silly

Launching this blog with a theory that's been in my mind for a while now, and it's the fact that old typology tumblr gave too much importance to syn and contra.

Some time ago i read a post (idr who wrote it but if i find it again i'll link it here) that explained something that made me go oh fuck, that's true actually. If we assume that sx blinds are the majority of people in the world, are we really so sure that basically half of sx blinds (sosps) are really so bad at living like people describe them to be? Like, since I've been in a new city for uni I've met lots of people. Most of them are soc doms because Italy is a soc dom country. Most soc doms I've met were sosps, and they were not the awkward anxious ridden fuckups of society that ppl think sosps are. Actually, most of them were definitely more adjusted into society than I am, and this takes me to a point I discussed with a friend: in our society soc and sp are the most valued instincts to have, so sp blinds and soc blinds are definitely gonna seem more "contraflow" than a healthy and adjusted sosp. Like, take a Fe dom 9 core sosp for example. Are we really gonna assume that this person is gonna have this extremely contra vibe to them? No. In fact, I'd say that an estp 7 core sosx is gonna vibe more contra to people than a 9 core sosp.

I don't think synflow and contraflow is inherently a bad theory, I think it needs some more expansion and thought because it fails to stand on its own, it's wonky:

Like, maybe it's a bit overemphasized. I don't wanna discard the theory completely, but it needs something more to work in my mind.

By default I still think that having both soc and sp puts you at an advantage in our society, and you're automatically more well adjusted. I've met some sosps with a wonkier sp, but most of them had normal sp like you would expect from a sxsp. My gf is a 3 core sosp and her sp is normal. It's not always there, but you can feel her sp wall sometimes, it's sudden, maybe then that's what contraflow is about, but she's not bad at socing at all. So yeah, stop being mean to soaps >:C But yeah i probably forgot to add other things i had in my mind so if anyone wants to add anything feel welcome to do so :3

#idk how to word things #so like idk maybe contraflow is literally ONLY about your instincts working separately instead of together like in synflow #which yes i know it's the original theory but i rmmbr it escalated to people thinking contraflow immediately meant you suck at society #when actually that's just... lacking either sp or soc #so in conclusion uhhh yes syn and contra probably exists but it's not as present and important as some ppl think it is #friends with better wording help me finish this theory plz #typology #instinctual variants #enneagram #mbti #synflow #contraflow #sx blind #sp blind #soc blind

[counterphobes]

i know there’s already a lot written about synflow vs contraflow but what’s your take on it

Omg hihihi thanks for the ask

So in theory I believe contra vs synflow just describes how the instincts interact with one another. Synflow means the instincts operate together, each of their influence is indistinguishable from the other, which is why spso and sxsp tends to perceive itself as just sp (I think people are just more conscious of where they keep private than what they share, which is why this affect is a thing)

The stack is a unit in synflow, its balanced (which is why I hate subtype, acts as if sxso and sxsp are SO similar to the point of no distinction) while in contraflow, the clashing of the instincts is what creates the "contra energy" that so many people comment on.

Sp without so to balance it out when interacting with others? Spsx school shooter edgelord that doesn't care about being liked or even interacting with others is born. The sx does nothing to help here, all it does is add an extra layer of unfiltered expression that just makes the entire deal even more insufferable

Sx without sp to balance? Birth of sxso, a bulldozing high energy presence overruns everything with no filter and has nothing to keep it in check from getting too intense/vulnerable on the first date. Everything is too much too quickly and there's no sense of privacy because everything is just pushed out for show/broadcasted through the soc

So without sx? Every social interaction turns into the most pained and pushed experience where they barely get what they want, because they have nothing to navigate with and so is vulnerable/open by default. With that sp breathing down their neck sosps r so hyper-aware of how antisocial they are its staggering their attempts at making connections and leaves them unfulfilled.

#enneagram #instinctual variants #instinct #mine #contraflow #synflow

[paimonial-rage]

wriothesley 3, 16, 17 :3 -- @milkstore

[Character Analysis Ask Meme]

What is Wriothesley’s mbti/enneagram?

Wriothesley is a 9w8 ESTP sp/so.

What is the best way to win Wriothesley’s heart?

Wriothesley is a simple man, and simple men require simple methods. Simply put, the best way to win Wriothesley’s heart is to flirt with him. He doesn’t need much more than that. Challenge him, tease him, take him by surprise. Play hot and cold. Accept his invitations for tea, then spurn his advancements the next. Present yourself as a catch, dance right out of his reach, and let his instincts kick in. But make sure you’re having fun too. It’s not a game if both people aren’t having fun.

What are Wriothesley’s strengths in a relationship?

Of the many traits Wriothesley was blessed with, two that stand out are his level-headedness and his tendency toward action. No matter what you may go through as a couple, he will not be overcome by stress or fear. You can always trust him to be solid no matter the storm. Not to mention you can trust he will not take the backseat in your relationship. If there is anything wrong, he will address it. But more than that, if he sees the chance to make you happy, he will take it, whether it’d be bringing home flowers or taking you on a date to something you want to see. In a relationship, he won’t let you feel alone.

#genshin impact #genshin x reader #wriothesley #wriothesley x reader #my writing #character analysis #okay! i admit it! because it was you i let myself get a bit lazy with the writing #it’s not as uwu as it normally is #wriothesley’s ivs were so hard here because you can make an argument for any of the synflow types #he exudes pseudo sx vibes but i’m p sure that’s the case bc he’s the typical leather jacket bad boy types being an estp and 9w8 haha #i will say tho that the winning his heart thing isn’t completely accurate #that’s more how to capture his attention and get him to be interested in you #imo he’s not picky you know? #but if you had to ask i’d say he’s attracted to fighters #not in the super saiyan sense or in the love hate relationship sense p #i mean more like…. you don’t simply accept everything that’s handed to you… even things you don’t like #you have enough self respect to stand up for yourself in the way that you can get him to say #‘oho? i like that look in your eyes’ #he’s a fighter so it only makes sense haha #but that’s just my opinion he’s pretty open

[profoundsubmissive]

Enneagram Instinctual Variants Write-Up (03/12/2022)

The following is merely a port of an entry I wrote in my diary in an attempt to understand my instinctual variant stack, which then evolved into a brief extrapolation of what I believe the instincts truly are. Nothing more. If I conceptually understand the instincts, then even replication of each one should be relatively easy. Further, though I wish to know my instincts, it's a relatively useless concept that is more in the realm of spirituality than psychology. That is—it seeks to explain that which isolates humanity from any other animal, as well as that which keeps it in the kingdom of animalia. The question of old, "do humans have souls?" It seeks to derive from your interpersonal influence, as well as our drives fundamentally. If I avoid the use of instinct, readily this becomes somewhat akin to a, "soul journey," or that which spiritualists may describe as your "karmic path". The dominant instinct being that which is safe, what you know and what you are drawn towards the most. With the auxiliary, a ~~function~~ *instinct* that under normal circumstance of, "synflow" being that which the dominant instinct uses to fulfill its desire. Interestingly, while in synflow Sp -> So -> Sx, the way that the instincts are used is actually in reverse. In Sp/So, the social instinct reinforces the Sp, not the other way around. So since the auxiliary is seen as more of a tool than a basic necessity, it gets relegated to the healthiest expression. However in contraflow, the order of use is actually the opposite, the Sp would flow into the So, this would mean reinforcing the social realm with barriers, walls, likely a melting of one's self conception as isolated, with the social realm, ultimately viewing the social realm as an extension of the self and as such that general concept of "dying on the hill of one's beliefs". *The body as a social statement.* Cutting is an inherently So/Sp act. Ah yes, first we must define something: SP = Self Social = Others Sexual = Genes Yes, it really is this simple. No one is "blind" to an instinct, and a majority of people harmonize with those instincts to live fulling (as defined by their enneatype and instinctual variant order) lives. What the concept of "blindness" attempts to describe is a turning away from that instinct so that it's relegated from conscious action, and instead becomes an underlying thread within the unconscious. It becomes fully supplemental in the triad of instincts. Some people seem to think that in this instance, the instinctual variants are acted upon as 3 equidistant, intersecting, lines and that one can only move along the perimeter of the triangle. Shift your perception to include the fact that one can move *inside* of the triangle, within the area, and it becomes clearer. In fact, someone can stand right in the center of the triangle. Further, is that not the goal? Bodily closeness is an inherently Sp/So and So/Sp act. The body, Sp, reaches out towards another (So) and pulls them in to be as close as possible. Seeing touching, melting into each other's bodies, coexistence and bodily mixing as intimacy. Those that fall furthest from Sx, look towards those of their romantic interest as their body parts first. They wish to get as close as possible, your look and appeal. Collages made by them will feature isolated body parts or wishing to be swallowed whole into a higher concept, such as water (their emotion), absolving themselves of self concept because to exist is to survive. Endure. Looking to the stars, looking towards the unknown, do they wish to place their trust in that higher forces will take care of them. On the other hand, rather than reduce to the body, the Sexual instinct reduces others to their *genes* or *traits* which they will release into the gene pool. It's looking for the perfect *mate*. It's a fully objectifying lens, not seeking closeness but replication as a form of intimacy. The act of sex itself: to penetrate (live), to cum (die), to inseminate/birth (replicate). Thus you will see the femme fatale is a Sexual archetype. There is no use for another when the act of sex has been completed; the object of attraction is granted permission to die. Integrating back into broad definitions of the instinctual variants' individual roles in the personality, the tertiary instinct, *not* the blindspot, is supplementary. If SP is at L2 and SO is at L4, then the sexual instinct still has a gravitational effect on SP and SO, as do they have one on it. You could describe the person as the sun, the Dom as the Earth, Aux as the moon, and Tert as Theia(ignoring the fact that the moon and Theia logically can't coexist, as Theia's impact with Earth is what created the moon. Bare with me though). Curiously, this means that the instincts do not have complete control over one or the other, or that they are subservient to the Dom, but rather they have their own individual influences. However, it is the person themselves which anchors the instincts, not the other way around. Yes, instincts play the most significant role in our lives, but those instincts don't begin to manifest until just before birth. Ultimately more metaphorical approach, this means that Theia or the Tertiary instinct still falls into step along with the other instincts, it's just dancing to the beat of its own drum unlike the moon, the Auxiliary instinct, which is tidal locked. Certain concepts deal with the harmony of the personality, not its discordance and as such when you do introduce concepts such as tri-fix or tritype, you can only use it as a typing maneuver to encompass that which harmonizes, not the cacophony. Some use tritype to explain a push and a pull within their personalities, such as a push and pull between wanting individuality, feeling unique and disconnected from everyone else but also being chronically attached to others, desiring connection and sharing their life. Unfortunately, this is not a 94x, this is simply a 9. An axis between individuality and self-narcotization perfectly describes the inner turmoil of the 9: dissolution in others or complete stagnancy to hold onto what is them. "Do humans have souls?"

Enneagrammer answers this question through pointing to the Social instinct. It's the most traditional view of transcending or absolving oneself of karmic debt. Luckovich specifically references the social instinct as the instinct which searches for the meaning of life; the one would posit the premise of this altogether. To them, the social instinct is the journey to transcendence, as transcendence is to absolve oneself of the self entirely, and instead connect or attach oneself to a higher collective / the collective unconscious / the universe / God / Kami, etc. As they utilize the bhavacakra as a representation of the 6 instinct types, with Sx/So beginning life as the closest to transcendence and as such the easiest life or as they've so titled, "God" for they have already transcended. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have the Sp/Sx, but rather than refer to it as the "Devil," it is instead referred to as "Hell". This is entirely intentional, as to be the devil, one would have transcended to godhood and be aware or at the very least oriented and connected enough into the social realm to act as an antagonistic force against it. In limiting Sp/Sx to, "Hell," Gray attempts to dehumanize the social blinds stemming from the conclusion that they don't have enough personhood to be referred to as a *being* of representation. They are simply, humans in the most animalistic way possible. You'll hear this tooted often on the podcast, how social blinds lack the ability to connect altogether, and as such have no hope of ever being human or even a person. Through my interpretation, I'm actually awarding *more* humanity to social blinds than Gray does. Sx/Sp is referred to as the "Hungry Ghost" because it's looking to restore its humanity by feasting on the souls of those who are worth replicating through based on the gene pool. Obviously, it's determined through the realm of sex. Through feasting on a soul, it's able to take in as much energy as theoretically possible to change and transform itself in hopes of becoming something higher, or perhaps, in his interpretation they aren't even aware of that desire and instead feast aimlessly. You could think of it like a black hole, keeping up with my more astronomical reference of the instinctual variants. To eat and absorb as much energy as possible (live), feel it well up inside like a witch burning at the stake and lose oneself to the scalding of flesh and the melting of innards (die), and then reassimilate, born anew wearing a completely different skin, but retaining the gene pool of the mate and themselves (replicate). A common misinterpretation of the Sexual instinct is that it must be interested in others, intensifies *outward* experiences, is easily visible *outwardly*, wrenches attention towards it, and that it can't go unhidden or veiled even by the deftest of chameleons. Unfortunately, this is actually an incredible social view of the instinct. If someone is constantly looking to incite ire, flame, disrupt the social environment, intensify the social experience, lock onto others, they are using the *social* instinct. To put it simply, Sexual instinct when influenced by Sp intensifies the *inward* experience, and when it's influenced by Social it intensifies the *outward* experience. Social blinds are known for being able to entertain themselves without reaching outward because they are intensifying their own experiences without needing to be other referencing or receive reciprocation or reciprocity. However there's an interesting conundrum. If this possibility exists, why would the Sx/Sp be referred to as the, "Hungry Ghost" if it could simply feast on its own innards and asexually reproduce? That's the thing, *it doesn't*. Sp/Sx is what does that, *NOT* Sx/Sp. There's a difference between looking outward or pushing outward, and looking for *genes* to intensify the *self* or internal experience. In this instance, David Gray's Interpretation makes sense, because then Sx/Sp and Sp/Sx have no reason to be interested in anyone but themselves and the genes they want. Earlier, I referenced cutting as an inherently So/Sp act; using the body as a social statement; "I show my cuts so the world knows my pain and that they're not alone." The Sx/Sp uses cuts as a symbol of *sexual attraction*, the body itself, as a symbol of sexual attraction. It's a way to maneuver the gene pool by showing off their traits, their mating dance, to the person who will cause such visceral change in them that it is akin to self-rebirth. Their tune isn't as visible, or rather, they aren't trying to appeal to as many people as possible for mating purposes, but rather the *one* in the room. Referring back to "God," the Sx/So, we will see that it's referred to as such because it's injecting flame into the social environment, piercing it to the traits that it desires to evolve. So/Sx, dutifly referred to as simply, "Human" because it's what flows naturally, sorting through and orienting one's lens towards others, taking on the beliefs and convictions of others, putting the self out there in order to take care of the off spring as well as use those connections to find the genes that one would wish to spread. Perhaps one could refer to it as a maternal view of the social instinct in this case, because the dominance of the social instinct forces sexual into a more nurturing role. Here, the social instinct is viewed as a softer instinct. What Gray and Luckovich posit with "Sp blindness" is that here none of the energy is taken inward to protect oneself, create boundaries, and intensify one's own; self sacrifice for the sake of the whole. "God," "Humans," and, "Titans," represented by So/Sp; the Titans which procreate and create the gods or rather, facilitate the creation of a world which allows them altogether. The focus is not on procreation, but everything afterwards: society, nurturing, sowing the seeds of creation, dying for their causes, creating a world for others to live in and subsequently, food for the Gods to eat as they are birthed by the Humans on the other side of the heavens. Curiously, they also act as a symbol of reigning in the power of the gods, and acting as a stifling force to stop humanity from going out of bounds and destroying their foundation. This is the dampening effect of Sp, represented by the element of Earth. If you inject the social, represented by the element of Air into the Earth, all that is happening is an expansion of the crust. More space inside of the perimeter is created, but the bounds still exist. Much like when Chronus ate the Gods when they were born and trapped them in his stomach, limiting their growth, ambitions, and imposing a set area of which they were allowed to act. Hopefully, all of this will help everyone understand why this theory refers to Sp/So as, "Animal". The beings which exist in the bounds created by everything else, are poached as food for the Hungry Ghosts, forced into the rules and bounds of the Titans, and endure the revolutions of the Gods attempting to destroy or push the bounds, so that they can escape the limiters. It doesn't grant them significance, it doesn't grant them autonomy, it lowers them to food or fodder.

#sx/sp #sp/sx #sp/so #so/sp #sx/so #so/sx #instinctual variants #enneagrammer #enneagram

[askthesillyplantzombiegame]

ghrhdfhgjdfhgfj fluwer

*holds the silly sunflower gently*

flowur of dah surn

synflower

thnk u for holding her gently

#pvz #plants vs zombies #pvz2 #sunflower

[funkymbtifiction]

hi, thank you so much for your imput yesterday! isfp 9w8 seems right, i misunderstood the fuctions i guess, after rereading the chapter of isfp on your book i see how and why i am one! [...]

by the way do you know what does it mean being a synflow or a countraflaw (idk if i wrote them correctly)? i have seen those terms regarding instinctual variants but i don't understand the explanation i found!

Glad my book helped you, and I'm glad you've found your type and likely stacking. I'm afraid I can't help you with your question; since contra and synflow are concepts that refuse to stick in my brain. I think some of my followers are quite educated on the two, so maybe one of them will reblog and explain them for you.

#question #enneagram #instincts

[indepth-mbti]

what's the key difference between

so blind (specifically sp/sx) 9w1 vs

sx blind (specifically sp/so) 9w1?

like, i am aware of the vague difference between them but they are too general (based on what i read online) and as a person who has a 954 tritype (triple withdrawn) it makes me difficult to distinguish them bc i relate to both subtypes

The most important aspect here is that you're an SP9. That means that your second instinct and your blind spot will 100% be affected by your desire for comfort and your desire for inner peace through meeting your physical needs.

The secondary instinct is present, but it can either support our primary instinct or antagonise it (I recommend reading about the synflow and the counterflow Enneagram theory of David Gray).

The SP/SOC E9 can be considered to be the less assertive of the E9 and the most prone to get with the flow and merge with the group they're in. Due to lacking the intensity of the SX9, this subtype will run away from intimate connections, balancing themselves within their time alone and they desire to belong to something bigger than themselves. I think that this subtype will also embody quite well the inner frustration of the E9. The SP9 is a type that merges with their routines and conformity and that can get quite passive-aggressive if they can't perform their preferred activities, but they find hard to express their true desires. The secondary SOC instinct makes a bit of a pull and push towards that frustration by merging that unsaid desires with the desires of the group they find themselves into - this can include school, or work, or some club, or the group of friends.

The SP/SX E9 is quite the opposite in that sense; still not really assertive but not that concerned about outer dynamics. This is the most guarded E9 and the SOC blindness makes it a subtype that focuses on their own boundaries and intimacy, but still desires to perform the SP9 "safe activities" alone. The main difference between this subtype and the SP/SOC is that the SP/SX E9 doesn't cope by merging with the group, and this makes it experiment a strong inner anger towards their own inability to speak up for their desires and then feeling that others have walked over them. The people around the SP/SX E9 may never actually realize that all of this frustration is happening inside the E9 until the SP/SX E9 enters a "vengeful" dynamic. This will make the SP/SX E9 just focus on their desired activities, their own peace and their chosen person - maybe they'll manifest those SX E9 tendencies through adopting the personality of their chosen person. But if the primary SP instinct is too strong, then this may not happen.

Summarizing: The sp/soc finds easy to navigate social interactions, they are more interested in exploring social cultures, and they use the social instinct to meet the self-preservation resources. It lacks the chemistry and the intense nature of the sexual subtype. The sp/sx tries to be more alluring to others; it portraits the obsession that the sexual instinct has to seek a partner, but it doesn't open up completely. It lacks the seek for external harmony, for the connection with something bigger, and for the desire for fulfilling a role into society.

[tf2-archimedes]

What type of seed is the best, or do you just not care?

vati mixes our seefs wjen he feesd us but if i coulf chose i tjink i like tje round smal; greeen ones

but i like synflower seeds too becayse hevi guves me tgem somwtimws

#tf2 #archimedes tf2 #heavy tf2 #archimedes answers

[blackholewound]

ok thought (tm) that is a word soup about typology and instinctual variants but the whole contraflow/synflow thing doesn't make any sense At All bcs sp/so and so/sp are the most common ivs, followed immidiately by sp/sx. even if u have more of one of these then the other(s) in your immidiate environment, i don't think anyone would argue that these three fuckers make a fuckton of the entire population; and on top of that three of them are -way- more common then the other 3 ivs. and also it's easier to see sp-blinds in their older ages from what i've seen in more 'developed' societies whereas not so common even if young in less developed places. so it's not even 'fuckers die immidiately' but 'sp blind teens and young adults aren't as common as other places in societies where it would be Clearly More Detrimental for them to exist; so based on dom instinct they generally develop into so/sp or somehow end up as an sx-dom based on biology/extremely early development in infancy that would be hard to pinpoint and observe; but probably also due to this both sx/so and sx/sp are rare as fuck in -any- place since that shit not helpful to anyone' lmao. putting all of that together, and the fact that IVs have a certain 'humanity evolving' etc nature behind them, that would mean that humans evolve in a way that instincts are usually compatible with environment/what one might need/also functions etc; and the general notion of contraflow is 'they are honorarily 'less good' in their aux instinct due to it doesn't support the first one as much as it does with synflow' which is completely nonsensical bcs that would mean that most humans would develop in a matter of being synflow but somehow, so/sp and sp/sx are more common then any synflow instinct that isn't sp/so; and not only that but also so/sp and sp/sx combined is probably just as many people as all sp/sos if not slightly more ~maybe~, and how the fuck could that even work? most people are uselessly developing then. also 'aux instinct being only when needed' argument i've seen several times: the whole point of instincts is the Need thing anyway, so being 90% first instinct would not serve you very much and make you at least somewhat incompetent; which would automatically mean that so/sp and sp/sx would be much more rare then they clearly are, AND that sx/sp would be more common then sx/so which... it clearly isn't. like why would half the entire population be contraflow if it had any merit to it? and what would be the point of having an aux instinct if you're gonna be 'half-blind' to it in a sense, for lack of a better wording? in that case there would be no 'stronger/weaker' aux instinct with different people if the general difference was simply syn vs. contraflow; but this is obviously not true since there are -so many- people who clearly have stronger/weaker aux instincts regardless of IV stacking; which doesn't seem to be correct for other aspects of typology like the difference between strong/weak lower function is pretty much exclusively age or development related; whereas IV strenght seems more innate and personal. and you can generally observe it both behaviorally and by visual typing from what i've seen; but that doesn't add up with contra vs synflow. tumblr won't let me type longer:'))) but yeah, i don't think syn vs. contraflow exists to begin with. i don't think 'contraflows' are 'honorarily blind' in their aux instinct either, like i have never seen an sp/sx who can be confused to not have sx at all; or sx/so who could be confused with an sx/sp since the two don't vibe similar At All, but i didn't have the space to talk about that:')))) i'm refraining from so/sp and so/sx comparison since it's easier for me to spot differences between either of the soc-doms since i'm an so/sx; but regardless of that i don't think the whole 'honorary sp blind' thing works at all for any adult so/sp unless it's because of other enviromental shit like 'turbo rich person never has experienced consiquences in their lives And You Can Tell:))' but even then they still don't have sx, so...

#typo #mine; #should i tag this with the instincts i normally do but then it's too long but if i don't it's ~incosisten~:/// #iv #i guess:// #long post #also all of this crumbles down bcs based on this theory most 'evolved' iv is sx/so so that makes me think that i'm missing something..... #djslkdsl

[isekyaaa]

I have Wr*othesley's mbti and ennea down, but what are his ivs? I'm pretty sure he's synflow, but like.... sp/so, so/sx, or sx/sp? The hard thing is that you can make an argument for any of those. However, if I had to do the process of elimination, Wr*othesley seems like he has sp. The fact that he knows all of his prisoners and interacts with them semi-regularly points to soc. But sp/so? He gives off the vibes as someone not very concerned with soc matters. That and would someone soc really have no qualms with choking and killing someone? That seems more soc-blind if anything. So then sx/sp? But does he really show signs of sx?

#character analysis #i am leaning more towards sp/so oddly enough #i think his ennea and mbti make up for the discrepancies

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[counterphobes]

Perspective is important

A rant about the general approach to typology and why it does more harm than good.

So, Instinctual variants has always been a bit controversial and hard to understand for people. Its the best theory to showcase the point I'm making because of its less direct nature. People, if they were synflow, would simply reject the synflow/contraflow dichotomy because it just "didn't make sense" which translated to: "I don't have it, so I can't understand it" Big obstacle for most people who try to get into it.

I found it easy, probably because it takes a lot of observation of others rather than taking people's word for it. Its not a clear cut set of descriptors of personality like enneagram, but a categorization of people's mental and social energy flows. The Se really helps me out here.

Instinctual variants, like the name suggests, are instinctual, lots of it is subconscious behavior but its very evident to other people. It shows in body language, adjustment to society, opinions, rather than set personality markers.

There used to be a theory talking about how the instincts develop based on survival needs, sx is pair bonding, so is community, and sp is basic survival. That was the idea. Personally, I never liked it much, but thats probably for my own lack of sp and the fact that I simply never viewed the world in terms of survival. Its very obvious this perspective was written by an sp-dom, and thats the thing, even if I have other problems with the survival idea -> like the overall lacking sp-blind descriptions because sp blindness inherently invalidates the association of sp=human drive for survival. ( I mean, erybody has that! Even sp-blinds!) or depicting sp-blinds as leaching off of others for survival, I still see the benefit because this perspective explains an sp-dom to me, someone I'm never gonna relate to, this is what they see in the world.

We should realize that the source of those descriptions basically give us an "in" to the brain of the author. Its much more valuable to me to dissect somebody's perspective. than somebody's personality. How their brain works, how they conceptualize things around them, how they're able to understand the world.

Logic is not objective, the things we consider to make sense don't make sense for another and their inability to understand our point doesn't translate to any lack of intelligence. It simply points towards a perspective so different, their way of making sense and understanding things is not comparable, and thats interesting. We need perspectives, we need different interpretations, we need to understand eachother, thats what typology is about for me. Not "who is more intelligent" and making a pissing contest out of it.

I encourage anyone to make their own theories, to make sense of things themselves, translate your world with the descriptors of typology and let other people begin to understand your perspective. Analysis is typology, no matter where you're coming from, as long as you're dissecting things and sorting them, I wish to know by what order the world works to you. What categories do you apply? What similarities do you see? Where do you recognize yourself? What do you find important?

Tell everyone! Write your own shit. Who cares.

#enneagram #mine #instinctual variants #instinct #personality types #mbti #contraflow #synflow #ennea #Rambling.

[paimonial-rage]

sasuke and kazuha being the same mbti was not something i would expect to read in my life.

Yeah well, they both have very different enneagrams and instinctual variants. Kazuha is an 9w1 sp/so ISFP. Sasuke is a 4w5 sp/sx ISFP.

I’m gonna try not to go several layers deep into typology, but basically Kazuha’s typology makes him as smooth and flowing as water. 9w1s are the most peaceful of the enneagram and sp/sos are synflow, and thus flow with people. Sasuke, on the other hand, is a 4w5 which are of the most volatile when unhealthy. This is because 4s are part of the heart triad, so they’re mainly focused with shame and finding their identity. Added to that, he’s sp/sx which is contraflow, so he flows against people.

That being said, where they differ is that 9w1 sp/sos are the types that you will never truly know. Talking to them is like trying to play catch with a plush comforter. You can offer all of yourself, but they will never offer anything substantial of themselves. On the opposite hand, 4w5 sp/sxs are unapologetically themselves. There are no frills or bullshit. They are who they are and you’ll just have to deal with that.

Pick your poison.

#interactions #personally i prefer sasuke #i have so much beef with kazuha #THIS BOY HAS NO SENSE OF COMMITMENT #he doesn’t even want to stay in your teapot for too long #people think he’d be the best bf like uh #he’d run off the moment you try confessing to him #jk ofc but he’d turn you down #i could go into a whole rant abt him #that being said i don’t dislike him #he’s fun to analyze #but I’d think he’s the most boring g person irl

[azenta]

How can I determine if I'm 7w6 sx/so or sx/sp?

The main way to know is by noticing which blind spot the you have, and knowing if you rather attract or repel (syn or contra) also greatly help to tell them apart. 

Sp blindness implies someone who rather neglect or sacrifice its material gains and intimacy quite easily. They prefer challenging and varied connections, therefore it makes them the most shallow and scattered 7 out there. Shallow because Sp blindspot paired with 7 imply a disinterest for intimacy and so, a sort of avoidance of it also. They’re most likely Pe dom or have their Pe integrated on top of having their ego fixated on Pe.

Sx/so over So/sx will be more of a show off and so, more focused on competitivity. Therefore, they tend to use connections around and their engagement to spice things up and heighten the stake of any activity. This usually translates in challenging people to all sort of stuff, casual to serious business, so they tend to be the biggest risk-taker of the 7s. I’d say they’re the most sensitive to being challenged by people, as challenges will be their main source of stimulation, and soc plus w6 will make them sensitive to engage into those challenges due to search for appartenance this combo creates. They tend to have a cp w6 usually because of this, and to be confounded for 7w8. By comparison, So/sx 7′s thrill is to connect and get engaged in social activities of all sort. So/sx 7 will use challenging activities to bond and improve their engagement with whatever they’ve chosen to. It will be less axed toward competition and more so on challenges that force people to cooperate, since So/sx being synflow pushes towards unity compared to contra in Sx/so, which highlights individual survival, as showcased above. This makes So/sx 7s the typical hyperactive social butterfly 7s. 

Soc blindness on the other hand will imply someone who will sacrifice or neglect engagements and social needs. They’ll prefer intimate but challenging connections, which makes them the most typical ride or die 7s. Therefore, they are much more prone to runner-chaser dynamic, which isn't remotely better than being shallow. It’s exciting, but not lasting. They’re not less likely Pe dom, but they are more prone to have some introverted development or ego fixation on introverted function, more likely Pi if they are Pe dom. It is more likely for a 7 soc blind to have an introverted dominant function, compared to the sp blind ones, but they are likely fixated on their Pe as well.

Sx/sp over Sp/sx will be more of a ‘’chaser’’ for opportunities, and so more typically showcasing the assertion of 7s than the Sp/sx stacking. Therefore, they’re the kind to track down what could stimulate them and enjoy the play around getting what they want. They play it safer than Sx/so, as Sp makes them more aware of their resources (material or energy), but they also willingly spare those resources to then use them at the best opportune time in order to own up to any challenge they were seeking for. They are the most thrill seeker of 7s. By comparison, Sp/sx is more the runner, purposefully daring people to some challenges and then vanishing once it is done, creating a sense of wanting more and of desire in their targets. They give just enough to hook people up, but then retreat in Sp, in their safe space, all while creating a storm around to keep them entertained and stimulated. They are non-conventional 7s, as their assertion will play more in spontaneously creating limits out of their ass nowhere, which purposefully instigate tensions and often create all sort of conflict justifying their avoidance (aka, running away). I’d simply call them the most typical avoidant 7s. The syn and contra distinction here would be that an Sx/sp 7 is more engaging as it prefers to pursue what it is attracted to, while the Sp/sx 7 tend to be dismissive and hard to establish anything with. Even tho Sx/sp 7 doesn't guarantee much more commitment on the long run, due to being 7 core and having soc as a blind spot, they are still more open to try to establish some kind of bond, while Sp/sx finds its thrill by maintaining anyone on verge, preventing more often than not to establish anything at all.

What the Sx/so and Sx/sp stacking in 7 core have in common is how they’ll both seek to challenge themselves one way or another. So, they’ll be the most assertive 7s. The biggest distinction is how Sx/sp is more picky and will invest their energy for a longer period of time, but won’t be aware of the engagement it can implicate and will likely disengage themselves the moment the challenge isn’t relevant anymore. While Sx/so is more willing to any kind of challenge and more willing to engage themselves in all sort of opportunities, but will invest less of their energy as it is shared in the ‘’many’’ and therefore depleted compared to their soc blind counter-part.

I would recommend to get further information to get a broader idea of Sp blindness vs Soc blindness, and even syn vs contra flow, so you can get enough information to make a more thoughtful judgement on whether you’re one of those. That’s what I had to share on that matter. There could be more nuances to be added, but I need more specific question to pin point what details you, or anyone, would like to know about.

So, I hope it could be helpful. If you have any other question, you’re welcome to ask. 

#typology #ask #enneagram #en #e7 #7s #7w6 #sx/so #sx/sp #sp blind #soc blind #so/sx #sp/sx #synflow #contraflow #ivs

[istj-hedonist]

Maybe dumb ask lmao but re: ur sp/sx is contraflow so it's very sp, are contraflow types seemingly more dominated by their first instinct compared to the synflow variant (like sx/so will seem more "sx" or w/e than sx/sp)?

with synflow the functions are just in balance and the second instinct serving the dominant one well and you can mostly see them working in symbiosis.

for contraflow it’s more like “90% the dominant instinct only”.. then “10% the second instinct going nuts and ignoring the first one completely and ruining everything the dominant instinct stands for”... and then going back to the dominant one who needs to clean up the mess.

e.g. sx/so will mostly look “extremely sx with no soc” and then at rare times “extremely soc with no sx” before returning back to sx-mode. whereas sx/sp is a constant flow of steady intense sx + a touch of sp.

#contraflow #synflow

[weedinduceddepression]

hello my lovely contraflows!! :) i decided to make us a contraflow pride flag - it’s time we stood up to our oppressor (the synflows) and show pride in who we are!!! if anyone is curious, katy perry stands for so/sp, the axe murderer stands for sp/sx, and the witch stands for sx/so :) :) :)  i hope all of my contras are staying safe today - it can be scary living in a synflowarchal society!!!

(synflows you can reblog)

#typology #instinctual variants #contraflow #synflow