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#top bottom discourse
etherealbabycloud · 2 years
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About John and you: Who’s bottom who’s top?
In what regard? Bunk beds? Or do you mean who is on top of a ranking list of abilities or talents and who is at the bottom? Probably depends which exact aspect you choose to rank us in.
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shieldofiron · 1 month
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I hate top bottom discourse generally but. Remembering when someone said one character would be the top because he was bi, and I ignored it instead of shooting them with super saiyan bisexual energy beams. As was my right.
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scarefox · 3 months
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The secondhand embarrassment by just reading this comment 💀
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maria-taiwin · 1 year
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Wen Kexing 🤝 Yan Xiaohan
TOP gay men who love unapologetically being called wife by their husbands because they shit on gender roles and they don't fear to be "emasculated" (ugh I hate that term)
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amorremanet · 5 months
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“i found someone whose takes on my ship are top-notch, who’s clearly writing with love for both halves of the ship, who doesn’t treat either side of their complicated relationship unfairly……and i can’t read their fics because alas, we are exclusively committed to diametrically opposed top/bottom preferences”: the most tragic self-help manual you will ever read
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porcelaintoybox23 · 2 years
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I’m quite confused about fandom’s tendency toward non-reversible positions in mlm ships. Why? I can understand a preference, but a lot of people are like physically repulsed by the thought of their ship switching.
Maybe I’m letting the ORV fandom be a stat instead of an outlier, but people are very weird about it. I’m generally a switch with all my ships, so that could be why I’m lost. I was looking through the ORVintro hashtag and someone literally wrote “ew” about Dokjoong/Joongdok being reversible. I’ve dubbed myself CEO of tumblr’s Dokjoong tag, but a lot of that fervor is because the fandom sees Dokja as this “uwu twink” that gets railed, which feels a little ooc to me.
I guess something about it feels heteronormative. The smaller man is dubbed more fem, submissive, and is always the bottom. The bigger guy is more masc, aggressive, dominant and tops. It’s hard not to see a reconstruction of binary gender roles. I instinctively have an issue with this because I’m a very small cis woman. Femininity = weakness and submission is a concept that makes my skin crawl. When I was into the MCU, I had to dig to find Tony ship fics where he wasn’t made more effeminate than canon and wasn’t the bottom or sub.
I know if this gets some traction someone will say that I’m policing ships. I’m literally discussing my own confusion and perceptions. It just weirds me out a little and that makes me want to ask about this to challenge my view. I could just have a weird bias that needs to be worked out. Yes, I am being the change I wish to see but it’s a lonely battle.
Also, because I don’t want to make this a separate post, If we’re doing mpr*g with our resident idiots, wouldn’t that make more sense with Joonghyuk? He literally becomes a woman in canon. Yes, I am peddling non-binary, genderfluid Joonghyuk.
Edit: I’m not really inquiring anymore, I have a stance on it. If you attack someone bc they use any variant of a ship name not restricted to sexual positions get a life. If you see red because someone tagged the reverse name on a post to their own blog, get a life. If you’re trying to police how people tag things, don’t post things online. Not everyone speaks your language and not everyone reads your bio or dni or whatever else. If others want to use this post for discussion, have at it. I’m done with it
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kdsburneraccount · 2 years
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So anyways I made this, constructive criticism not accepted /j
(NFL Wide Receivers tier-ranked based on their vibes)
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constantreadermk · 1 year
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This is gonna be a hate post. Yep. My tumblr feed is still scarce. Trying to find some good blogs and not cringe along the way, sadly I have standards this time and zero tolerance for the things I don’t like to know and see. Yeah sure it sounds bad, echo chambering is bad yada yada, I’m very aware, but I just want to have a good time looking through my feed, I have enough of big stress in real life goddammit, so… if I can get rid of some small things that stress me out and escape for awhile, we’ll, I’m gonna do that. Although I still feel like I’m closing myself up for good discourse…. But then again I often want discourse and when I do - I’ll find it anyway. So far my biggest cringe points are: 1. Progressive talk over inclusion and victim contests on sexism and racism and trans-non-binary, whatever, Lord, how I hate that, I don’t even want to go into details on this, they are ruining the the things I love, all fandoms are compromised with this bullshit (cause initially the wokies mostly came from tumblr fandoms and I watched it happen like in slow motion a tragedy unfolding over the years, and here we go, now I have to filter my content severely just to cut this shit out, 2. Top/bottom discourse in fandom. Yes, it IS important to me who’s on top. Cause guess what, ff writers _always_ link the sex position to the character traits (I’ve read tons of ff, don’t even start), and it’s always certain (not necessarily always the same) character traits and a certain dynamic. I _also_ want a certain dynamic, so i AM looking for a certain positions in M and R rated ff. Its personal preferences and those matter. No, I really don’t want to know how it “doesn’t matter because in real life it doesn’t matter” (it does and you know it does, cause authors DO link character traits to the sex position and fanfiction is NOT real life my friends), and I really don’t want to be educated about not being progressive enough, or whatever.
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yes, bunkbeds.
Well we didn't stay yet at a hotel with bunk beds, mostly it's either single beds or a king size bed. But given John's PTSD and if he awoke during the night and stumbled up due to a nightmare or being startled by a noise, it would be a bad idea for him to sleep on the top bed because he would then fall down and could potentially hurt himself. So it would be better and safer if I choose the top bunk bed, and he the bottom bunk bed. And also because I would probably hit my head if I slept on the bottom bed.
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mycupofrum · 2 years
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So is there a consensus on Top!James/Bottom!Sirius or vice versa? I still haven't figured it out. Being so equal, I think they would have taken turns though.
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otaku-babu-vibes · 2 months
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part of me understands t/b/s discourse, the other part just believes it's all so stupid... I'm mostly a switch (most of the time, I can't tell who is topping in a piece of art), but I do have some fixed ships... I also don't understand tagging shit...
like, I see things being tagged (dancae) or (caedan), to me, it's the same ship.. I don't know how it's different... (what I mean is, it could be a piece of art and the characters are just holding hands but it'll be tag as the top/bottom pairing. Like that could go either way, why is it specific?)
I'm following a dkbk artist and I saw they mentioned how they started getting into bkdk and I was like "I thought you were a bkdk artist" (I didn't say anything, just thought it)
to me, this whole t/b/s shit is very confusing and everytime I see posts about it going around, I just get all more confused. Like, the fujo crowed are very serious about it and I'm afraid of posting something and they're gonna yell at me Q.Q I am a literal babu
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I didn't know there were rules for this
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