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roggvers · 6 months
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haven't seen the movie and I'm probably not going to but apparently Carol is in a marriage of convenience with some dude that's not Yon? How dare M*rvel? Yonverinos invented the marriage of convenience trope for Carol 😒
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spacemagik · 6 months
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THEIR EYES????? I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT
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wingedwhirlwind · 10 months
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I asked the wishing-well whether Yon-Rogg is in the Marvels. It gave me this cryptic answer.
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daisy-mooon · 2 months
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carol/yon-rogg… thoughts? (i’m so sorry in advance)
The way I was literally just vagueposting about them on Discord 😭 the TIMING
I've read nearly every Captain Marvel fic on Ao3, Yonvers included, and I have a lot of thoughts
Gonna start this out by saying I hope this ship never becomes canon endgame
Complicated exes
Carol would not go back to him.
She would definitely have regrets and grief, but she would not go back to him. It would he impossible for her to feel safe around him.
She could maybe be a coworker or ally if she's feeling exceptionally generous and the universe would collapse otherwise, but a proper relationship is out of the window.
Yon-Rogg projected onto her a lot. She was an amnesiac clean slate. In the deleted scene, the person he most admired was himself - what if he started admiring himself after he rescued Carol? Viewing himself as a saviour too her?
Yon-Rogg would never see the Supreme Intelligence as Carol. He's a Kree supremacist, and he knows that Carol is human. He can't ever treat her as a full equal.
The Supreme Intelligence would demote him, but I doubt it would give Yon-Rogg any consequences that actually measured up too his actions.
They definitely hate each other after.
They would both beat the shit out of each other if given the chance.
They've definitely been in a relationship and they've definitely slept together.
Carol wouldn't tell Maria everything about Yon-Rogg at first because of the guilt of having a relationship but eventually would spill the beans during the blip. It would be very hard for her to do.
Yon-Rogg would 100% be jealous over Prince Yan. Meanwhile Prince Yan would obviously care, but he'd he incredibly cold and dismissive towards him. He knows him only as the guy that destroyed Carol's life. He's not deserving of his time.
Valkyrie definitely knows about him. Again, like Yan, she doesn't think he's deserving of her time. But she wouldn't hesitate at stabbing him if he came to it.
The Kree have a kinda poly culture so what I'm saying is that Carol was sleeping with Yon-Rogg and Dar-Benn at the same time and they hated each other a lot
Carol's relationship with Dar-Benn is awful but a lot healthier in the sense that Dar-Benn had zero idea about Carol's origins.
I can definitely see Dar-Benn learning about Carol's origins after she becomes Supremor and being shocked, but deciding not to do anything to punish Yon-Rogg. Again, Kree supremacy. Any good will she has for Carol goes out the window the moment she realises she's human.
The shared blood thing... poor Carol.
I NEED people to talk about the fact that Carol literally DIED and Yon-Rogg resurrected her like??? This is how you know the MCU has gone to shit because any good writer would milk the fuck outta this
Carol's fine with blood UNTIL it is blue. Blue blood makes her incredibly squeamish.
She has a Thing against blood needles and transfusions that she refuses to explain.
Yon-Rogg would never call her Carol. Mostly Vers, maybe Captain or Danvers, but never Carol. It would mean that he accepts her as a separate person.
Very bitter over her leaving - "why isn't she grateful for all I did for her?"
Yeah the Supreme Intelligence treated him wrong... but that does not mean Carol should forgive him in anyway
I know some Yonvers fans will kill me but it's an emotionally/psychologically abusive relationship.
She literally does not have access too basic medical information about her species???
Are we gonna talk about the fact that all of this time hes wittering about fair fights Carol physically can't beat him in a fair fight because Kree are stronger than humans? And that she isn't allowed to know that she's human? So she's being gaslit into thinking her failures are her fault when they're not?
I honestly also think its important that not everything should be romantic. They aren't romantic in canon and he still abused her. It's not always a partner or family member that can abuse you - it can be anyone.
I would write more but it's 1am so im wrapping it up. Anyways, final thoughts: a very interesting and deeply unhealthy dynamic that adds a lot to Carol's character but as an endgame ship would detract from her character arc. Anyways im tired af gn squad
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deepinthelight · 7 months
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PSA for Yon-Rogg nation, he’s in the new What If… Nebula Joined the Nova Corps episode, voiced by Jude Law too. Sort of spoilers for characterisation, but he’s high-key sketchy and evil in it. I didn’t think we’d ever see him again in Marvel media, but given this, I’m finding his post-CM characterisation quite fascinating, especially with what we learn about the Kree and Hala in The Marvels. Give it a watch (honestly just watch the show in general if you haven’t yet, I adore What If…?, it’s super engaging and I loved that this particular episode was Nebula focussed) Text me if y’all wanna discuss Yon though cause I hate this man yet I love the character and I wanna pick him apart :)
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graendoll · 6 months
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The only thing missing from The Marvels was a scene with Yon-Rogg at the end being all "that's my girl" as he watches from the ground. Followed by him stepping out from behind the mossy Louisiana swamp trees to tell her that to her face.
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fairyringsandwings · 9 months
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I know I haven't been active in the yonvers fandom in years but I hope you will all tell me if Carol and Yon-Rogg are reunited
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YonVers fanfic
I have no idea how to promote myself so I’m going to do this????
Yon-Rogg returned to Hala with only Carol’s message, and it went better than he could have imagined.  
https://archiveofourown.org/works/48587887/chapters/122560015
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etherealenigma · 1 year
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to the love @leightoningstrike because u inspired me, though I will never compare lol
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therealvinelle · 2 years
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Omg you also ship Carol/Yon-Rog! I won’t admit it to anyone as apparently that’s like very controversial, but damn I thought they were being really heavy handed in the movie. Sure as hell more to work with than Stucky.
Is there any other way to go, daddy-o?
Yonvers is my ship, damnit, my dark horse OTP for the MCU. Watching the credits to Captain Marvel roll, I had that terrible "yup, new problematic ship" feeling that you get when you ship a brainwashed woman with a handler. What can I say?
Ao3 holds a surprisingly rich selection of Yonvers fics, I strongly recommend checking it out. @theoriginalcarnivorousmuffin wrote a fic for the pair too, to be found here.
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roggvers · 2 years
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@butterflyagua4
Do you mean the first movie? All those Kree scenes that supposedly made Yon more sympathetic? Or have there been new concrete news?
The scenes with Yon I know we didn't get:
- Yon and Ronan arguing/talking before the deployment to Torfa (there were stills with them released before)
- Yon and Vers going through Lower Hala (Jude mentioned it was one of his favourite scenes to shoot :/ Brie also said some 'fun stuff' with her and Jude was cut, there was like a few seconds of b-roll footage from a source I wasn't able to track down but there was a gif somewhere)
- The blood transfusion scene (a bit of it was in the trailer, possibly the full scene featured Yon introducing himself to Vers 'for the first time', since they cut out all the scenes where his name is mentioned before the betrayal reveal to ~keep the secret~ even though they were already selling Yon-Rogg toys so it wasn't much of a secret anyway 🙄)
- (Possibly) Yon looking for Vers on Torfa after abduction/being back on the ship and worrying about her but also resolutely stating 'she'll be fine. She's Kree' (there was a still of him in a cave on Torfa, and Hero Storybook, a comic prequel features a form of this scene, and I'm assuming the book was written based on original uncut script for the movie so I'm not sure if it was cut at movie or script stage yet)
Basically I would give a limb for the original uncut script AND the original uncut movie
(another reason I know there were many more deleted scenes is because they did a focus group showing and people apparently were sympathetic towards Yon and since Marvel thinks it's audience is allergic to nuance they cut a lot of those scenes. The movie was definitely over 2 hours long before it was cut down. Also, before the DVD release we were promised 26 minutes of deleted scenes but in the end there were barely 10 minutes so I believe we are missing AT LEAST 15 minutes of Yon (and Vers) footage which is a lot considering Yon probably has like 15 minutes of screen time left in the movie we actually saw :/)
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josephinekhawaja · 5 months
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Captain Marvel 2 got me leaning even more into being Yonvers trash, sorry not sorry --
I am not sure I would classify Carol Danvers as a War Criminal like everybody else, as 100% the Supreme Intelligence needed to go, and is not like she continued to personally scorch the earth from there. But there has definitely been a lot of grey up for consideration in this sequel, and so much of the consequence of her actions, however valid were her feelings to do what she did. And I just find myself really needing her and Yon-Rogg to have a conversation. After all that has happened since 1995, so much that has gone down in space. (Also THANK YOU to the Skrull emperor for that needed line "We have nowhere to go" after an entire Secret Invasion season of Zero Accountability for Nick Fury and Carol Danvers in not finding a permanent settlement for the Skrulls as promised. At least Carol to her credit showed remorse on her face for it. Is a start.)
Like for damn sure Yon-Rogg needs to redeem himself -- have him paying his dues somewhere like Aquaman's brother Orm Marius for all I care -- but at least open the door for those dues to actually count towards something. Evidently this film wants me to ship Carol Danvers with Prince Yan, but nah. The personality difference is too jarring. I much prefer the gradual humanisation of Carol in her friendship (familyship) with Monica and Kamala than whatever switch gets flipped on Aladna. (And on that note, Aladna culture was the most annoying thing in for me a not-so-annoying film, so unlike with Tarnax, I was actually happy to see it get sucked into a wormhole🌀🌀.) If anything, I want Yan to kneel to Dar-Benn😼😽. She could use that sunshine more💔. And I think a lot of my perspective right now is I cannot actually see the villainess of the film, Dar-Benn, as a villain. She has probably been one of the more sympathetic antagonists we have had in the MCU in a minute (and she looked so damn pretty in her speech to Hala -- Imma simp). And through her I feel myself softening towards the Kree more than expected. Whatever the crimes of the empire, they are now a devastated people. And my previous scepticism at mention of "peace talks" in the Secret Invasion has dissipated. I could seriously believe after everything they would be now desperate for relief. And that bleeds its way into my long-sailing ship. Feed me to a pregnant Goose if you like, but still for me it is Yon-Rogg x Carol Danvers. Bring Jude Law back for Captain Marvel 3 (The Marvels 2) please.
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wingedwhirlwind · 4 months
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spacemagik · 2 years
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Made a drawing of Carol coming to save Yon-rogg ❤️‍🔥
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deepinthelight · 1 year
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“I see what you’re trying to do”
“Is it working?”
“Yes”
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