#animation is a medium not a genre

[metellastella]

Animation Usurper

Happy International Asexuality Day!

Fun Fact, I wrote this during Ace Week in October. But apparently I either am so forgetful, or dissatisfied with my prose or am distractible or just couldn’t motivate myself to do clarifying edits, or some combo of those, here we are all these months later. 

So. Let’s make up for lost time.

I’m very far along the ace spectrum, so I typically don’t like Western ‘adult’ cartoons. (as a result of a particular brand of ace, not all ace people experience repulsion) Really, it’s more because the industry has collectively decided ‘adult cartoons’ should mean almost always be *obnoxious and in-your-face* about sexuality, as opposed to some animes made for adults whose focus isn’t that but maybe it includes it occasionally. 

To go on a bit of an unrelated tangent, Japan has a lot more respect for the ART medium of animation. And aside from aesthetics and effort, middling thematic variety between ‘this is all about sex’ and ‘for kids.’ 

(not fond of violence either) 

Sadly though, I find the style repetitive and haven’t really done a deep dive on anime. It doesn’t sate the ‘novelty-seeking’ aspect of my psychology. But I venerate all the effort. I just wish there was some fusion between the two, where Japanese animation was a little less rigid in its style dictates and Western animation aimed a little higher for quality. Maybe that’s arising, as you’ll see here in a bit later. 

It also doesn’t help that Western adult cartoons seem to think it’s funny to have a dial-it-in art style. 

I don’t like the idea of someone spending months of their lives, limited time on earth per minutes of animation, just to have it look scruffy, or flat, derivative, or unimaginative. That is incredibly disheartening to picture, as an artist. Even just being a hobbyist. 

Call it vicarious existential anxiety, I suppose. 

Maybe some might misread that concern and call me a ‘snob’ for that, but, hey, what’re ya gonna do. 

It’s as if, since again they seem to have very little self-respect for their stories or characters, the crude animation and character design itself is a crutch to add to the writing of comedy, and should be laughed at. 

Maybe people do find that funny. 

And note, I’m not even necessarily talking about making animation realistic or proportioning bodies exactly like anime does. Elegance can be found in the simplest of character designs, if someone deliberately creates it that way. See: the animation studio that produced The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, The Breadwinner, Wolfwalkers, and most recently, My Father’s Dragon. 

(kinda glad I dragged my feet and got to give a shout-out to that last one) 

Lego Monkie Kid, for that matter!!!!

Cannot say enough good things about that show. I’ll probably make a whole separate post about it. 

To be honest, I quite frequently find myself digging for aesthetically pleasing ‘moving art,’ and sometimes the story is secondary. A stationary artist doesn’t have to tell me a whole story for me to enjoy their painting- and artist animators who just happen to draw a bad card from the deck and not to be blessed with pairing to good writers nonetheless pique my interest. 

I’ve done enough stationary art browsing over my lifetime, that, in fact, maybe I’ve jaded myself a little. If even a tiny fraction of the stellar character design in art communities online were animated, I think people would start to see the problem, and variety would blossom. 

So, that brings me to an interesting intersection of this musing. 

And don’t worry, the ace spec subject does come back into it full circle. 

Independent animators.

If you had described these two very well-known web animations to me beforehand, and asked me which you think I would like more, I would’ve selected ... 

Bee and Puppycat. 

I mean. Obviously. Cute creatures and whimsical settings. Not too adult and not too babyish either, something that is astonishingly rare among Western animation?? 

You might have heard grumblings of this before in fandom spaces, questioning and wondering about why there seems to be no middle ground.

But, oddly, even though I fully mentally recognize B & P as a landmark achievement, both as a step outside monopolized media production spaces and hitting a sweet spot that is sorely lacking within them ... I just didn’t resonate with it. 

This is baffling to me, because as I mentioned, the style of it is very appealing, so what gives? I’m put off of some shows with good writing because of aesthetic style, (as a corollary to the seeking styles and disregarding writing, kinda like someone may vibe to acoustic stylings of a piece of music even if the lyrics are utterly insipid on their own) but usually the reverse does not happen. Even if I didn’t like the writing or plotting, which is far from the case, as the writing’s fine, I should have been motivated to finish it.

Honestly, I haven’t quite worked that out yet, tho I have an inkling, and it’s related to suggesting an IRL friend to record Bee’s lines since she likes it so much. 

But, that’s not the reason I started this ramble, and not as well-developed as my thoughts on art styles, so forgive me for leaving it aside. 

Enter the Dark Horse animation that, had you asked me beforehand if I would like, I would’ve said ‘yeah prob not for me, I’ll move along.’ 

Helluva Boss (and Hazbin Hotel). 

There are LOADS of reasons I shouldn’t take a shine to this cartoon. 

1. HH & HB are barely above the likes of Rick and Morty and Simpsons et all in its incessant ‘adult’ jokes 

and again don’t misunderstand me here, I /enjoy/ Star Trek Lower Decks. It makes tolerable and judicious use of adult jokes and doesn’t overly rely on them.

2. HH’s style- while absolutely cool- is behind B & P in terms of preference. BUT. In terms of creativity and flow, is heads and shoulders above practically all big name cartoons out there. What I call the “golf ball eye” phenomenon, in which eyes are perfectly round with mere dots. So you get two moldy foods to consume for the price of one: lack of variation in creativity AND lack of character expressiveness and nice looks. Three sci fi examples are Star Trek: Lower Decks, Final Space, and Solar Opposites. One I love, the middle is not bad, and S.O.’s humor is great. Buuuuut. Their face aesthetics….. Even SU Pearl’s exceedingly simple, no-pupil eyes add SO much to the draw of the character with just the inclusion of a single color. I’m not asking for much. I promise. Not even Owl House style highlights are a bare requirement. I know how hard animating is. I like things like She-Ra, soft and round shapes, and tend to dislike sharp edges (Sorry, most recent Ninja Turtles remake. Kipo, you’re fine hunny, just a lil off) and yet. Somehow HH has bypassed that into ‘wtf why do I love this so much.’ Wily little sneaks. 

I mean, when the likes of Aquaman 2022 feels like ‘a breath of fresh air’ because there’s so little visual variety in animation, you know something’s amiss. Not to knock it too hard, though. I wish that had been that artist’s “breakout role,” tbh, instead of the first job he got stuck with before that, because he will be forever remembered as the guy who ruined a nostalgic fandom’s wishes at behest of executives and not the guy who made something as whimsical and fun as this iteration of Aquaman. The character was usually the butt of the joke among DC fans to begin with, and therefore has more leeway to be silly. That style won extra points that supplements its questionable aesthetic raw merit. To be fair, there’s so much motion in the character’s body emoting, that also goes beyond very stiff, basic poses common in other shows, I have to give points for that, too. 

3. HH universe takes religious concepts and obviously has no respect for them. In a somewhat similar but more lowkey way, recalling a screed by a practicing Hindu who was understandably angry at the less-than-respectful comedic moments in ATLA towards certain cultural aspects, I simply find the /premise/ cringe. I know cringe culture is dead and all. I even agree with that general sentiment. I think Vivzie will sleep fine at night if one backwater Tumblr blog- who’s ultimately still complimenting her- uses the term as a one-off. 

It doesn’t help that the vision of Hell typically forwarded in the modern day that is used to terrorize fundie-raised kids during childhood doesn’t resemble the original Hebrew belief and therefore the whole show ends up reminiscent of so much IRL totally unnecessary angst. 

I’d almost rather have a fantasy setting that had its own underworld concept, or could be similar to HH canon but with 4th wall breaks that slyly hinted they’re all in Dante’s Inferno which was, historically, political satire of the time (essentially a longform political cartoon, hue hue) and 0% Biblical to begin with …..  Idk. 

(though I did have a strange conversation with someone recently which indicated Dante’s Inferno may have been based on pieces of the Quran. Weird.) 

4. HB characters are abrasive. I could barely get through Homestuck. Lower Decks is here again a good comedy counterexample of characters that aren’t CONSTANTLY backbiting each other for the sake of a joke.

(or verbally abusing children, as one sci fi protagonist everybody loves to hate)

So, the mystery: how did I manage to stick with this cartoon, with so much pulling against it? 

Again, can’t quite put my finger on it 

But, I know that by the second episode, it had one little grip on me with Stolas sweetly serenading his daughter against a backdrop of the cosmos and exploding planets. 

Encouraged, I thought that perhaps there would be more sincere moments like that. I was hurting for musical animation after all, I can barely comprehend why it’s not more common. (sadly, Centaurworld did not really effectively scratch that itch, for me personally, tho I did latch onto a couple songs long term). Corporations want people hooked on their content, but you don’t offer us that which burrows into the brain and repeats itself for days at a time? 

The one time capitalism fails to take advantage of something, and it’s the pleasant things. Figures.

So, back into the thick of it, I’m halfway through the season and have found some bits and pieces to like, but still am questioning if the likable outweighs the negatives. Then I see Blitz and Moxie do their duet. Now that scene alone was worth everything else. Purely aesthetically it’s a treasure, a subtle shift in artstyle that mimicked the likes of Disney, and the character depth upgraded several notches.

So now by this point, I knew, I’m gonna watch the rest of this series at least. Dunno if I was gonna be super invested in the fandom, but not everything you watch will consume your soul like that, so all good. 

And then. 

Drumroll. 

The Wrath Ring pair visits the club. 

They are relentlessly mocked for being ‘too vanilla’ for everyone around them. 

Man. 

You don’t know HOW hard that hit me. You can’t comprehend it. 

Feeling constantly out of place b/c of not being allosexual. It’s not a perfect parallel obviously, but it nonetheless struck a deep vein of accumulated angst. 

Irony of ironies, the cartoon that may have slipped through my fingers because of VERY SIMILAR issues to that scene IRL managed to take a pickaxe to my psyche. 

Seeing two people being unapologetic about being more modest in their desires in the face of what could be interpreted as amatonormativity on steroids was indescribable. 

In fact, the parallel gets even closer to reality when you consider any perfectly ordinary woman who’s had the accusations flung at her for being ‘frigid’ or ‘repressed’ whether by men pressuring her or well-meaning friends or acquaintances who think they know what’s good for her better than she does. 

An excellent counter-anthem: 

I’d think she’d resonate with this too, and if not, maybe see the episode with new eyes after reading this little entry. 

In the modern era, in these ways, there is ubiquitous prude shaming and over-forced sex-positivity even of non-aces. 

So, I formally present to you my carefully constructed headcanon on behalf of bygone Ace Week: Moxie and Millie are both gray ace. Their attractions are more subtle than that palm sweaty, instant-draw that ‘primary attraction’ often generates, and subsequent strikes of physical desire. 

They might or might not have ‘secondary attraction’ as their only experience (demi) in the stylings of the very popular Friends-To-Lovers trope, but without their backstory of how they met, we can’t determine that yet. 

They are alloromo, of course. Alloace. Probably hetace. 

After some reflection, as an inversion, Blitz could probably be read as aroallo. 

(I know it’s played as if he’s simply ‘afraid’ of getting in a serious relationship, but if you pay close attention, his platonic relationships are presented the exact same way- so it could be just relationships and emotional vulnerability in general. It doesn’t directly have to mean he experiences romo attraction. We don’t see a lot of him deliberating and being ‘drawn’ to it but shying away- rather he’s so oblivious to romance he stumbles into inviting Stolas out without even once thinking what it might mean to the other. Sorry but, that is an incredibly common experience among aro people, not realizing how they’re coming across to another person!!) (and his response to a clearly romantic overture of watching movies and cuddling even more hints that his brain operates in aro mode)  

And Angel Dust gives off vibes which are much more straightforwardly aroallo.

And to round it all out, we have the canon aroace character, Alastor. 

And thus concludes HH’s careful courting of me. The initial rocky start, the resistance, has evaporated and I am invested.

...

P.S. 

If you’d like to see some more independent animation, check out Lackadaisy, which is absolutely stunning 

And Talon, the fluidity of which is somewhat rougher, but is nonetheless ambitious, has some neat light effects, and definitely for those who adore dinosaurs 

#hastag #animation is a medium not a genre #keep repeating it #until people understand #children's cartoons #wolfwalkers #my fathers dragon #lego monkie kid #bee and puppycat #independent animation #character design #animators #star trek lower decks #aquaman 2022 #kataow kipo #atla #religion #history #abrahamic faiths #musical animation #music #colbie caillat #prude shaming #alloace #aroallo #aroace #feminism #friends to lovers #helluva stolas #helluva blitzo

[skywardkey]

the urge to metaphorically break into various production companies and yell directly at their decision makers to stop approving live action adaptations of animated media just grows day by day

#STOP #MAKING #UNNEEDED #LIVE ACTION #REMAKES #ANIMATION IS A MEDIUM NOT A GENRE #THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH ANIMATION THAT CAN'T BE DONE WITH LIVE ACTION #ANIMATION DESERVES SO MUCH MORE RESPECT THAN IT GETS #ALL THIS DOES IS CONTINUE TO PUSH THE NARRATIVE THAT ANIMATION IS LESSER THAN LIVE ACTION AND THAT LIVE ACTION IS THE END ALL BE ALL #ULTIMATE GOAL FOR ANY KIND OF STORY #WHEN THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE! #SOME STORIES ONLY WORK AS LIVE ACTION #SOME ONLY WORK AS GAMES #SOME ONLY WORK AS MOVIES #SOME ONLY WORK AS TV SERIES #SOME ONLY WORK AS ANIMATED MOVIES #SOME ONLY WORK AS ANIMATED SERIES #SOME CAN WORK AS MULTIPLES OF THESE #BUT UNTIL THERE IS ACTUAL RESPECT FOR ANIMATION AS A MEDIUM #FOR TELEVISION SERIES #MOVIES #AND FOR VIDEO GAMES #THEN LIVE ACTION ADAPTATIONS #REGARDLESS OF THE QUALITY OF SAID ADAPTATION #WILL WHETHER INTENTIONALLY OR NOT #CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE STIGMA THAT ANIMATION IS LESSER #AND IM SO TIRED OF IT #IM EXHAUSTED #LET ANIMATED THINGS STAY ANIMATED UNTIL WE CAN LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT VALUES IT AS MUCH AS LIVE ACITON

[twin-images]

People Get Paid for This Kind of Thinking

A quote from Cartoon Network/Warner Bros.' current head of Kids and Family Programming, Amy Friedman, on their recently announced plans to reinsert live-action onto CN:

“Girls often graduate out of animation. Some of our most incredible competitors have been at the live-action game for a long time. We know that’s what girls want. With live action, we’re excited to reflect the world as it is, inviting girls in without alienating the boys.”

Ummm...

So I guess all of those women who attend fan conventions are only there for the food, huh?

#this is beyond dumb and tone deaf #girls don't age out of animation #cut the gender division crap and just make good decent cartoons #animation is a medium not a genre

[5-pp-man]

no you don't get it. i literally love stories where they dive into people's hearts/minds (literally or figuratively) sm it's my favourite type of storytelling.

#p5s #fairy ranmaru #shiguang daili ren #limbo the king #king in limbo #pet anime #pet manga #pet 2020 #dmmd #homunculus #homunculus manga #sankaku mado no sotogawa wa yoru #the night beyond the tricornered window #sarazanmai #id invaded #paprika 2006 #wonder egg priority #tedpost #it allows them to portray emotions in such visually interesting ways #and is a great way to make parallels between the person who's mind they're in and the main characters #these were all the ones i could think of rn but i bet theres more that i havent seen yet #also i only mentioned scramble here because i think it does this concept better than regular p5 lmao. #FEEL FREE TO SUGGEST ME MORE OF THESE #doesnt matter what medium or genre!! could be a book a movie idc i eat stuff like this upppp #EDIT; updates the post after reading ltk and checking if tricorner fit this desc #EDIT; added homunculus too because whilst technically he never actually enters anyones minds he does visualise them into the real world #so its the same end result of seeing a person's true thoughts and feelings. but a slightly different method to get there

[bumblebeebats]

Wow, Guillermo del Toro really said You know what my animated kid's musical needs? Catholicism. War. Death. Alcoholism. Fascism. Frankensteinian undertones. A haunting meditation on mortality and grief. Cate Blanchett making monkey noises. And he was so fucking right

#i really shouldn't be surprised after Pan's Labyrinth and like basically every one of his other films but #Pinnochio was extremely good y'all #and the making-of was incredible too - just the LOVE and CARE that was poured into the overall look and design is just??? #im frothing at the mouth. i love stop-motion so much #pinnochio netflix #guillermo del toro #ANIMATION IS A MEDIUM NOT A GENRE AND THE STORIES IT CAN TELL ARE SO FUCKING COOL

[kingoftheu]

At the risk of starting a discourse, but it is odd how the prevalence of same sex ships is swapped in western cartoons.

Like, m/m ships are in general more visable and prevalent in western culture than f/f both in terms of couples established canon and fandom shiping.

However looking at the cartoon/western animation scene recently, Sapphic Ships are far more prevalent. Korrasami, Bubbline, Lumity, Ruby/Sapphire, Catradora, Harlivy, Rose/Jukela etc. There is a relative shortage of m/m shipping. Gumlee (which ofc is genderswapped Bubbline), Troy/Benson in Kipo, Marc/Nathaniel. There are more but you pretty quickly are digging into background characters or relatively small fandoms. F/f ships are absolutely more likely to get big in the cartoon fandom.

This is by no means exhaustive of course, and also by no means a criticism. Just an interesting inversion of the typical fandom dynamics.

#i understand that this is a medium not a genre #but most animated shows produced in the west are part of a broader tradition and its useful to encapsulate that tradition #cartoons #animation #western animation #gay #queer #lesbian #sapphic #bisexual #sexuality #fandom #f/f #m/m #korrasami #legend of korra #bubbline #adventure time #gumlee #ruby x sapphire #steven universe #lumity #the owl house #catradora #she ra and the princesses of power #harlivy #harley quinn #kipo and the age of wonderbeasts #troy/benson #miraculous ladybug

[hychlorions]

???? i guess???

#.docx #this is what we get for thinking animation is a genre and not a medium

[mihai-florescu]

Any article that calls anime a genre is already wrong in my eyes

#am i going insane or is anime not a medium instead of a genre liek

[overobsessedfanboy23]

My favourite shows as a kid: Animated fantasy shows or gameshows

My favourite shows now:

#yugioh #ygo #yugioh duel monsters #ygo dm #yugioh gx #ygo gx #yugioh 5ds #ygo 5ds #yugioh zexal #ygo zexal #yugioh arc v #ygo arc v #yugioh vrains #ygo vrains #yugioh sevens #ygo sevens #yugioh go rush #ygo go rush #give it up for the best genre of all time: yugioh #literally a fusion of my two fave genres in the superior storytelling medium that is animation

[jumping-jackalope]

the chorus interludes skits getting more obscure.... i don't understand but i love this bar .

#and the structure as a whole #i have very little experience w/ anime as a medium & no other experience w/ the magical girl genre within it #so I'm not sure. how usual is the unrelenting structure of the story? ykwim? #like the sequence before every dueling scene. could be cut yk? its been established. could be shortened at the least #but no. full length door handle ring utena climbing the staircase with song about apocalyptic destruction #anthy sword pull calling on the power of dios. every time..it rocks! #i seem to remember *something* similar with pokeman..... when i last watched it. like. a decade & a half ago #idk! idk. might look up more about the genre(s) bc its rly effective #but itd like to have awareness of whats genre convention #& also learn that way more about what genre elements it subverts #utena #rgu

[divorce-enjoyer]

if marvel wouldn't be such cowards they would have the next episode be in cartoons. musical episode. do u see my vision

if marvel werent cowards this show (and honestly multiverse of madness too) would actually utilise the multiverse as a means to play with different genres and mediums in order to sell the idea that the existence of the multiverse is chaos a la in space with markiplier but instead loki frees the multiverse for… what? what consequence is there? kang, potentially? sorry i didnt watch quantumania so i dont really care.

#CARTOONS! MUSICAL EPISODE! FUSING GENRES AND MEDIUMS! #MOBIUS GETS A GAY LITTLE SOLO WHERE HE SINGS ABOUT HOW HE HAS FAITH IN LOKI #DUETS AND MOTIFS!!! #animated loki is just a stick honestly #loki #asks #mcu (derogatory) #yk honestly atp we could just dm but theres something about sending asks that feels like passing notes in class yk

[stinkrascal]

that ask makes me mad tbh like don't disregard everyone's stories just because u can't read anon. i've read so many beautiful stories that aren't just good for "simblr stories" but are good in general. super lame to disregard those ppl's art just because it isn't conveyed in a traditional medium

#gives the same energy to me as the people who think #that animation is made only for children and can't be a compelling medium to tell stories for adults #or that the horror genre only features exploitative shlock and none of it has any artistic integrity #just bad takes on art in general you know that's what that anon reminded me of #i'm very passionate about this but i 100% believe that storytellers should be considered artists bc they are! look at all the work they do

[hallwyeoo]

Just got to see Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio at the Tiff lightbox + a q&a with Guillermo after, and woah. The man is brilliant. As someone going into animation, I’m so grateful to see people like him advocate for and create incredible art. I was also super happy at how they changed the story and brought the characters to life. Wonderful movie and a talented cast + crew.

#guillermo del toro #pinocchio #pinnochio #lolol? how many ppl also misspell that #movie #stop motion #animation #animated film #this is such a fucking great movie #from the man himself #stop making kids movies sanitized and stop viewing animation as a genre #it’s medium goddamnit. #he also made death this caring nurturing figure #which i always love #in this household we accept death #such a good movie

[superfan44]

The 100 Favorite Movies Challege

As a huge movie buff, I thought I'd try something fun on here. I have decided to launch a new internet challenge: "The 100 Favorite Movies Challenge". The rules are pretty simple and straight forward. You create a list of 100 of your personal favorite movies in alphabetical order, post the list on your home page, then nominate other people/users of your choosing to do the challenge.

There is no limit to what movies can be included on your list. Films within any medium (live action or animated), genre, and decade are more than welcome. Whether it's longtime favorites you were introduced to when you were younger, favorites that you've picked up over the years, or recent discoveries or releases that quickly became your favorites, anything and everything is on the table here.

I'll start off by sharing my list. To be clear, I have way more than 100 favorite movies, but to have the number be anything past that may be a bit much for some people. Please don't judge me if it seems like there might be a few noteworthy titles missing on here. I mainly put this list together just for fun. Alright, here we go!

9 (2009)

Airplane! (1980)

American Graffiti (1973)

Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)

The Avengers (2012)

Avengers: Endgame (2019)

Baby Driver (2017)

Batman Begins (2005)

Beetlejuice (1988)

Beverly Hills Cop (1984)

Big Hero 6 (2014)

Black Dynamite (2009)

The Blues Brothers (1980)

Broadway Melody of 1940 (1940)

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)

Castle in the Sky (1986)

Chicago (2002)

Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (Knockin' on Heaven's Door) (2001)

Deadpool (2016)

Death Proof (2007)

Desperado (1994)

Die Hard (1988)

Django Unchained (2012)

Double Indemnity (1944)

Dragon Inn (1967)

Fantasia 2000 (2000)

Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)

Flash Gordon (1980)

Ghostbusters (1984)

The Godfather (1972)

Goodfellas (1990)

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)

The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)

Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

History of the World, Part 1 (1980)

Hot Fuzz (2007)

How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014)

The Incredibles (2004)

Independence Day (1996)

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)

Inglourious Basterds (2009)

The Italian Job (2003)

Jaws (1975)

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum (2019)

Jurassic Park (1993)

Logan (2017)

The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)

Lupin the 3rd: The Castle of Cagliostro (1980)

Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)

Meatballs (1979)

Men in Black (1997)

Moana (2016)

Monsters vs. Aliens (2009)

Mr. and Mrs. Smith (2005)

The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992)

National Lampoon's Animal House (1978)

Network (1976)

The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)

North by Northwest (1959)

Notorious (1946)

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019)

The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)

Porco Rosso (1992)

Princess Mononoke (1997)

Pulp Fiction (1994)

Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)

Ready Player One (2018)

Rear Window (1954)

Rio Bravo (1959)

Robin Hood (1973)

The Rocketeer (1991)

Romeo and Juliet (1968)

Scream (1996)

Seven Samurai (1954)

Shaun of the Dead (2004)

Sherlock Holmes (2009)

Skyfall (2012)

Smokey and the Bandit (1977)

Spaceballs (1987)

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)

Spirited Away (2001)

Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983)

The Suicide Squad (2021)

Surf's Up (2007)

Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (2006)

The Thin Red Line (1998)

Tombstone (1993)

Top Gun: Maverick (2022)

Treasure Planet (2002)

Tremors (1990)

Tron: Legacy (2010)

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (2007)

The Wind Rises (2013)

Wonder Woman (2017)

Yojimbo (1961)

Young Frankenstein (1974)

Zombieland (2009)

Now, before I wrap things up, I would like to nominate @skygent, @is0gild , @firecraker-j, @mrcowboytoyou, and @piglets-not-so-big-adventure to do this challenge. Hopefully we can get the ball rolling so more and more people can join in. I look forward to seeing what kind of lists you guys will put together. Good luck!

#internet challenge #favorite #movies #100 #list #invite #fun #personal favorites #too many movies to tag #mediums #live action #animation #genres #years and decades of films

[mangoes-and-mothman]

puss in boots: the last wish is such an excellent example of animation geared towards adults without it being vulgar. it had complex themes about mortality and identity that would go over kids heads. and the villain was terrifying, like genuinely scary. the humor was mature without being explicit. its a genuinely a movie kids can watch and enjoy but it really is an adult movie.

#i could literally talk about this for hours #i love love love this new wave of movies where animation is truly being used as a medium rather than a 'genre for kids' #i cant wait for it to translate over to shows and for everything to stop getting cancelled #im going feral #mangoes thoughts #puss in boots #pibtlw

[mourningmaybells]

people treat musicals and generalize about "lack of depth" the same way people treat animation and horror. i forgot where i was going with this

#just so we're clear i know musicals and animation are mediums and horror is a genre with a lot of variety