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How did we go from Hunter sniffing dirt to measure distances in The Clone Wars to him not knowing that a living breathing creature was right in front of them in The Bad Batch season 3

#the jango sample continues to degrade #the bad batch #he's good at tracking living objects when they're moving #but the leaf grizzly wasn't moving

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Ah, Pabu

A beautiful island in a crystal clear sea

3 parts Pirates of the Caribbean

3 Parts Indiana Jones

1 part Scariff

1 part Coruscant Jedi temple

1 part Jaws

1 part Kamino

1 part Rivendell

1 part space Greece

2 parts Star Wars Resistance

+ whatever else I've either missed or forgotten about

If they'd put a fraction of the effort needed to combine all of these copied elements into creating something original it would have been truly stunning

#tbb #pabu #everything always has to be a copy of something else #but they're capable of so much better

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I strongly dislike the comparison they appear to be making here, I'd love to be wrong about it

BUT

The broad stereotypes we appear to have here, from left to right are

The responsible and caring one with a nose stripe/detail and yellow eyes who's been left to look after the 'baby'

A 'baby' in a wide chunky collar who's strong enough in the force to move weighty objects with ease and who needs their cuddle buddy if you want them to behave

The rash and reckless one who gets himself into trouble

And the quiet one, the thinker. Misses the bold one when he's taken away, doesn't want to see a fellow prisoner punished

And this seems familiar somehow...

#tbb spoilers #breakout 2: omega's boogaloo

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Since the last episode aired I've seen a lot of people comparing the view of Tantiss from above with Narkina 5 while entirely glossing past the far more obvious comparison

And I get why people have latched onto that imagery, it's a prison, it's sorrounded by hostile territory, it looks vaguely similar from above, and the episode before this was seeded with Andor imagery. But Narkina 5 is already a reference to something else

Kamino

With the domed top and the concentric rings, with there being more than one unit standing in shot sometimes when we see it from the side. Vast constructions surrounded by an innocuous looking span of nothing which will allow anyone to leave and survive without a ship to fly them out of there

When Omega tells the other kids that she’s done this before she doesn’t say ‘I broke out of Tantiss before’ we've just been led to assume that that’s what she means

But it’s actually a skewed mirror of TBB episode one where she smarmed her way into the company of four adults (with a tooka doll) who didn’t know better than to respond positively to her regardless of how she appeared out of nowhere before using them to help her break out of her prison through a hole in the wall of a jail cell because she couldn't get out of there alone.

Kamino isn't her home, it's the place where she had been held and tested on in isolation before being allowed to mingle with the general population, and the whole escape plan only worked because 1) those boys never made their appointment with Lama Su because Tarkin sidelined them, and 2) the chief scientist allowed her to leave

#tbb spoilers #kamino #the bad batch spoilers #her inner Palpatine is finally being allowed to shine through her facade now

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Oblique crew tweets already told us who CX-2/the operative is, and it isn't Tech

Tech has gone back to his roots - no, not Kamino. But he'll show up again soon

CX-2 doesn't act like Tech, he acts like all of the Batch do

Which is the entire point

#tbb spoilers #tbb tech #it's all there in the small details

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Tech's neck this, Crosshair's neck that

But Hunter's slutty forehead display with previously unseen tattooed area gets barely a mention?

Shameful

#tbb spoilers #tbb hunter #whore #letting it all hang out

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Preview of episode 12

#tbb spoilers #episode 12 #hunter vs crosshair #iykyk

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Do you ever think how funny it is that we know exactly what Neyo looks like because the animators just wanted us to know he tattooed his number on his face but we will probably never know what Fox actually looks like despite him being in the Clone wars show at least 4 times.

#posts that won't age well

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TCW foreshadowing Tech and his inevitable return

He even strikes a sexy pose for you

#tcw #tbb tech #tbb

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Their Farscape is showing

#tbb spoilers #cx-2 #the operative #scorpius

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#star wars: the rise of sauron #right down to the 'one ring' imagery in the logo #and the warning of a dark power rising #pass

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Corporate entities hate fanmade works and would love nothing more than to get them shut down entirely

They hate that there are people out there using their characters and their settings and having fun with them without having to pay them for the priviledge

But as long as fans aren't making money out of their IP they can currently get away with it. But we've recently seen a crackdown on people selling t-shirt designs, stickers, etc which violate this

So what can they do to try to firm up the laws on this, to get them to fall more in their favour?

Would writing their own fanfic and turning it into a show that they're making lots of money from be enough to do that, for them to sell merchandise and profit from someone else's IP without asking or paying for the use of it?

For it to maybe go to court for a very public fight over who can do what with a property they're a fan of?

Because that could well be what Disney is currently up to with their Star Wars shows

Not just making a few references to other movies or tv shows, but taking entire plotlines, blurring the edges of them, and dropping them right into their own shows

Want an example even if it risks containing show spoilers? of course you do!

Back in Season 7 of The Clone Wars (On the Wings of Keeradaks) we have a scene where Tech uses a recording of the flying lizards they encounted earlier to call them to their position and fly them out of danger

Just like Gandalf summons the eagles to come and rescue his party from the attack from Azog and his team of orcs and wargs, right down to the way some party members are left dangling over a huge drop off the mountainside

Later, in The Bad Batch (Reunion, S1), Hunter has been shot in the chest and Tech gets him up, gets him to safety, and (offscreen) medical aid is provided

Which is extremely close to that same rescue scene in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, only the part of it where Gandalf gets Thorin up and out of danger, with the assistance of the eagles, after he's been severly mauled by a warg, and then rendering medical assistance to him

Tech goes on to have a big fall (Plan 99, Bad Batch, S2), right off the end of a great big crumbling bridge. Sound familiar to any LotR fans?

And in a different episode (The Crossing, Bad Batch, S2) Tech is seen falling and landing in a similarly super familiar looking cave

Which repeats parts of the two separate scenes of Gandalf falling and 'dying' ('The Fellowship of the Ring' for the fall, and 'The Two Towers' for the cave scene) which all the characters get really sad about - until he gets better and comes back. Which has yet to be seen in Tech's case. (How Tech will be able to come back from his fall despite not being a wizard is explained via his character specific movie source they've made repeated use of, but since that's still hugely spoilery I'm not getting into that here)

And this is only a couple of examples of one tiny instance where this is happening, the show is filled with them and it applies to all the main characters not just Techdalf

'Entombed' (The Bad Batch, S2) hits The Hobbit up HARD for it's plot and not only gives us the Arkenstone but oblong, which it directly names as The Heart of the Mountain, which is found and then lost again, but dredges up a fire breathing dragon equivalent. Add in some additional Alien themeing and a lizardy creature that can be shot in the chest with a laser arrow before being tossed out of a window in full on 'OMG it's Ripley with the airlock' style and they're really cramming it in there. They end with a reference to an opportunity to find a golden chalice, which is what Bilbo took from Samug's hoarde as proof that he'd found it But people have been easily sidelined from thinking about any of this too hard by them throwing in a handful of surface references to Indiana Jones, the potential of a love interest being developed, and the 'dragon' being a creature previously seen in the Jedi: Fallen Order video game

And don't even get me started on how Senator Avi Singh appears to live in Dale (Common Ground, Bad Batch, S1), Roland and Isa Durand apparently live in Rohan (Paths Unknown, Bad Batch, S3) or Dr Hemlock and his former base at Dol Guldur (Paths Unknown, The Bad Batch, S3) and what that implies for the remainder of the show

They've blended together a lot of canon prequel & clone wars era Star Wars content with a range of supplementary non-canon SW content such a comic books, video games, Legends novels, etc which maintains the idea that this show is nothing more than Star Wars and keeps a lot of long term fans happy and distracted by seeing non-canon things finally appearing in a canon setting, even if they have changed some of the details

But so many concepts and images have been lifted barely altered from their original sources, not just from Tolkein's works, and just slapped down like we're not supposed to notice how much of it there actually is because they've made the animation and lighting so very very pretty

#the bad batch #the hobbit #star wars #lord of the rings #the clone wars #lotr #fandom #they're specifically taking scenes from the movie versions of these stories #which just makes it easier for them I suppose #already having a nice convenient visual to copy

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if u ever feel bad about ur limited knowledge of the star wars universe, dont worry! din djarin knows less than u and hes literally in it.

#men in armour with their knowledge and world experience deliberately limited #now where have we seen that one before... #the mandalorian #tcw

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Back to the beginning

The Bad Batch story begins at the point where the prequel movies end and TCW finishes. Palpatine has risen to power, claimed a palace for himself, and is confident that nothing can stop him now We first see Omega in the scene where Palpatine is giving his address to his new clone slave army in a way that is the exact opposite to the way he appears He's making a virtual appearance, all shadowy and indistinct. A blue flickering holo image of a wrinkled old man shrouded in a cloak and buried in shadows, while Omega is making a personal appearance in a strongly lit blue toned room. She's young and smooth faced and not obscured in any way. She also observes 'her' troops So we're mirroring events once again and Palpatine's rise to power is replayed as Omega's fall from power. She fails to secure her desired 'apprentice', fails to win over the Vader character on the team despite making sure to be there when he regains consciousness, and is then chased from her palace. Later the chip plot is exposed (not that the boys didn't already know about it) and her mini army get their chips removed against her wishes while she can only watch, but the person whose chip goes off and subsequently attacks her only gets stunned instead of killed, unlike poor Fives She wins some small battles by foiling the Batch's plans to work against her behind her back, like in the episode where Echo dresses up as a droid, but overall power just continues to slip from her grasp and there's nothing she can do about it She panics when Hunter is lost, then sabotages Crosshair's plans to get the others to come and help him out with the less obvious subplot that he's been working on all this time, she once more fails to win him over to her side because he has no interest in playing apprentice to her, and by the time S2 starts she's been reduced to trying to offer Hunter gold and jewels while they're on Serenno in a parallel to winning Dooku over with offers of money and glory. Which once more fails to get her the loyalty she desires from him. The main advantage Palpatine ever had was that no one knew that he was the bad guy, but Omega lacks that advantage. They've known what she is and what she's done from before the show started so she was always going to lose Now she's in Tantiss she's further from having any power than she's ever been in her life. Cut off from the outside world and any way of summoning help from her own personal Dooku by the communications blackout and the need to keep the laboratories meticulously clean

She has nothing here, and she's still not going to win over her desired apprentice. All she can do now is maintain her pretence of innocence and try to break out for long enough to call for help before someone with more power than she now has works out what the source of her power is and takes it for themself. And once that happens and things have been publicly exposed she'll be available to get picked up by her long term partner in all of this and and move on to the role she's playing in the Ahsoka show as the Ventress to his Dooku. And this is why we'll be seeing so much of TCW S1 in TBB S3, because we're going back to the start of the prequel era. That means dredging up old characters, referencing old scenes and harking back to old plot points that were dropped in there right from the early days Grievous, Ventress, the Malevolence arc, Wolffe's eye being taken, and so much more So it might be time for a clone wars S1 rewatch if you're feeling up to it, just to refresh your memory In the broader scope of the trilogy of current shows Omega plays out an Anakin like role, but within the Bad Batch show she's nothing more than mirror universe Palpatine

#the bad batch

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Coolest thing about lord of the rings? The king of horses shows up. It appears he is no different from all other horses

#lotr

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So what's the point of all this faffing about in the end?

Because if there's more to it than lining up multiple shows just so Filoni can set up some overpowered and overhyped girl on girl OC action and have Ashoka take down Unakin (Nonakin?) in a way that she could never do with Anakin I'll be very surprised

Why do we have to slog through 50 layers of heavily applied references in every current Star Wars show?

Because it's a smokescreen trying to make us dismiss the ones which point out the actual underlying story. Which is the exact same story we already know only from a slightly different angle and using clones and technology instead of Jedi since, you know, that's not really an option anymore

The story of a child living on a backwater planet who lives solely with their mother, a child who has an amazing talent for machinery and builds their own droid(s), who gets to run off with a bunch of men (their new 'family') for a far more exciting life which ultimately leads to devastation after they made some really bad life choices because they don't want to accept death as a factor of life

And yeah, I do realise how basically stripped down that description is

First we meet the small child, then we meet them again when they're older and getting all trained up (even if it is done as more of a Dooku/Ventress thing second time around)

And then they hit their final stage where they never ever take their helmet off until the very end of things, and neither of them are using their own speaking voice

Cue the supposed 'shock' ending and a bunch of Disney execs patting themselves on the back for no one seeing it coming

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Each OG role has been divided up between 2-3 current characters so Omega can help Mommy out by building a cyborg to mimic Anakin building C3PO but she hasn't had the opportunity or ability to do the equivalent of killing the Jedi in the temple, that part was farmed out to someone else regardless of whether they stated it on that specific show yet. It already happened and we saw it previously

Tech can stand in for Obi-Wan disliking her flying style, teaching her the skills she'll need to survive and dealing with her on an emotional level (with the assistance of the rest of the 'family' like the Jedi would have supported Anakin), but the big Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight at the end of season 1 was acted out by Hunter and Crosshair instead and since Echo already lost the appropriate number of limbs which that fight claimed before becoming a cyborg there was no need to repeat it

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Unfortunately they've spent so much time on cramming in the surface level references into all of these shows, bending existing characters into shapes that don't fit them (*cough* Ahsoka show *cough*), obscuring the details and dropping any inconvenient parts of former canon they don't like that it's all become a little bit overblown and boring.

The makers of Star Wars just can't get past the Anakin Skywalker story no matter how big the SWU is or how many far more interesting tales there are to tell in it. How many promising looking shows have been cancelled or lost to development hell to focus on this instead?

Just last year Dave Filoni claimed that Anakin was the best Jedi ever (or something like that) and we all laughed at him for it. So why did he claim it in the first place? Who was he trying to convince? Are we just supposed to watch these shows and decide that Disney are doing it better than Lucas ever could? Just what is the point here?

Apart from money, obviously

#screwing tem morrison over as the known face of the clones is also a factor #when they make it so clones can look like anybody you can cast whoever you want to and one actor getting older doesn't matter anymore #and that explains why the TBB clones don't look like the rest of them #that's not about whitewashing just money

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Why do we have to slog through 50 layers of heavily applied references in every current Star Wars show?

Because it's a smokescreen trying to make us dismiss the ones which point out the actual underlying story. Which is the exact same story we already know only from a slightly different angle and using clones and technology instead of Jedi since, you know, that's not really an option anymore

The story of a child living on a backwater planet who lives solely with their mother, a child who has an amazing talent for machinery and builds their own droid(s), who gets to run off with a bunch of men (their new 'family') for a far more exciting life which ultimately leads to devastation after they made some really bad life choices because they don't want to accept death as a factor of life

And yeah, I do realise how basically stripped down that description is

First we meet the small child, then we meet them again when they're older and getting all trained up (even if it is done as more of a Dooku/Ventress thing second time around)

And then they hit their final stage where they never ever take their helmet off until the very end of things, and neither of them are using their own speaking voice

Cue the supposed 'shock' ending and a bunch of Disney execs patting themselves on the back for no one seeing it coming

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Each OG role has been divided up between 2-3 current characters so Omega can help Mommy out by building a cyborg to mimic Anakin building C3PO but she hasn't had the opportunity or ability to do the equivalent of killing the Jedi in the temple, that part was farmed out to someone else regardless of whether they stated it on that specific show yet. It already happened and we saw it previously

Tech can stand in for Obi-Wan disliking her flying style, teaching her the skills she'll need to survive and dealing with her on an emotional level (with the assistance of the rest of the 'family' like the Jedi would have supported Anakin), but the big Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight at the end of season 1 was acted out by Hunter and Crosshair instead and since Echo already lost the appropriate number of limbs which that fight claimed before becoming a cyborg there was no need to repeat it

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Unfortunately they've spent so much time on cramming in the surface level references into all of these shows, bending existing characters into shapes that don't fit them (*cough* Ahsoka show *cough*), obscuring the details and dropping any inconvenient parts of former canon they don't like that it's all become a little bit overblown and boring.

The makers of Star Wars just can't get past the Anakin Skywalker story no matter how big the SWU is or how many far more interesting tales there are to tell in it. How many promising looking shows have been cancelled or lost to development hell to focus on this instead?

Just last year Dave Filoni claimed that Anakin was the best Jedi ever (or something like that) and we all laughed at him for it. So why did he claim it in the first place? Who was he trying to convince? Are we just supposed to watch these shows and decide that Disney are doing it better than Lucas ever could? Just what is the point here?

Apart from money, obviously

#the bad batch #ahsoka show #the mandalorian #anakin skywalker #tbb omega #star wars #ambitious but ultimately bloated and a little bit dull #she's playing palpatine as well #but due to the divided role thing she isn't the only one #all the key players are represented though #ventress grievous mace windu hondo ohnaka etc