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anyway i’m planning on staying up and rewatching thor, avengers, and tdw since it’s been a minute since i’ve watched them all in order ❤️

loki is so pretty who else agrees 😍

#rambling #loki #loki mcu

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they blocked me after they got offended and started dictating whether or not i’m allowed in the loki tumblr fandom, called me a rude brat, and said i’m abrasive… people who don’t understand fandom etiquette in the year of 2024 and getting upset when they see any sort of nuance, ah.. it never gets old 😭😭😭😭

the worst part of all was that they said loki would not approve of me having opinions 🥺 tell me it’s not true loki please…

#rambling #it is 2024

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this lokiologist shit gets so serious like i will not read a fic if it’s even slightly out of character. especially if the reader calls him daddy HE WOULD HATE THAT!! there’s so many other terms that like… display authority or whatever that the reader can call him like he’s literally a god and a prince 😒

#exactly…

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if you can not handle even the most basic, unserious bit of nuance ever please do not join any fandom this shit is crazy

#rambling

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all this because i proposed the idea that perhaps loki mcu (fictional character), an 1000 year old mythological god as well as a prince with father issues that comes from a medieval-esque, otherworldly alien realm and speaks in a shakespearean, old english manner, would not like to be called daddy by the reader in FANFICTION.

loki has literally killed people and is known for verbally degrading people. i don’t think he would really care that i said i’m picky about loki fics and the terms they have the reader address him by or that i have opinions in general. do you even know who loki is if you think he’d give a fuck about any of this shit?

i have wrote fanfics in the past, and i heavily respect any fanfic writer. i understand that it is hard work, and even if it’s not my thing… i respect the fics that they write. i would love to know how me giving my own headcanon/thoughts on certain gifs is me bashing fanfic writers… i never said that they can’t have the reader call loki daddy. i just said i don’t think it’s in character.

i also am a huge fan of loki, so… forgive me for being a bit picky on how he is presented/written in these fanfics. despite that… never have i once gotten on here, and bashed a fanfic writer on how they write him. i will admit that i have said that i don’t really like him being written as vulnerable straight off the bat in fics, and i have made this post where i playfully state that i don’t really think he would like being called daddy. but that is literally it.

but realistically… do you understand how ridiculous this is? a paragraph over me giving my own opinion? you’re calling me abrasive, and unwelcome in the fandom… have you ever been in a fandom before? who are you to tell me i don’t belong in a fandom, seriously!! people have different opinions, and there’s nothing wrong with that. and to bring up my age??? we are talking about a fictional character, and you somehow made it personal by pointing out my age, saying i’m not welcome in a fandom for having opinions/making a post (that was mainly a joke for me and my followers), and assumed that i’m bashing writers who are not confident in their works. if i say i dislike pancakes, am i bashing everyone who likes them as well as amateur chefs who may be unconfident with their cooking skills? no i’m not and the both of us know that!

like you said, to each their own. i don’t give a single fuck if you like reading/writing fics where loki is called daddy. practice what you preach.

but most importantly… loki would SOOOOOOO not give a fuck that i come off as abrasive to tumblr user loki-g0dofstories or that i have opinions on things. out of everything about your reply, that’s what irked me the most… call me immature, abrasive all you want. but mischaracterize my loki poki?! i won’t accept that…

this lokiologist shit gets so serious like i will not read a fic if it’s even slightly out of character. especially if the reader calls him daddy HE WOULD HATE THAT!! there’s so many other terms that like… display authority or whatever that the reader can call him like he’s literally a god and a prince 😒

#are you new to fandoms or something?

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"Emo scene queen Hel! 👑💚"

I've finally drawn Hel into the 2000s emo art style! And of course, I had to make her a emo scene kid. It's perfect for her isn't it? 🥺

#OMG #this is adorable #norse mythology #hel #emo #scene

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odin revealing to thor that loki was adopted, and is also a frost giant sometime between the events of thor 1 and avengers 2012: he’s blue and stuff

#thor #odin #loki #mcu #brodinsons #thor mcu

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#loki #thor 2011

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Happily living mentally in 2013 and even though I don't officially ship Loki with anyone I can ship him with anyone if I want because I don't need "canon" validation from actors and creators to enjoy my fave and actually like the character for the character rather than some weird parasocial thing I have going on with another character/actor as a self-insert by proxy.

#sylkius supremacy!!!

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this lokiologist shit gets so serious like i will not read a fic if it’s even slightly out of character. especially if the reader calls him daddy HE WOULD HATE THAT!! there’s so many other terms that like… display authority or whatever that the reader can call him like he’s literally a god and a prince 😒

#suggestive #loki #loki mcu #loki odinson #loki laufeyson

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THANK YOU it’s so fucking annoying like no one cares!!! i hate the series but just ship who you want and stop being annoying about it omg no one cares if you ship loki with a dude who treated him like shit or a female version of him who treated him like shit YOU BOTH SUCK!!

free tom hiddleston and even owen wilson/sophia di martino from the shackles of ship discourse… CAN YOU PEOPLE (series fans) JUST TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTERS AND NOT THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OTHER????

LMFAO i would SOOOO make a twitter acc, and just start shipping mobius and sylvie to cause commotion 😭😭😭😭😭 i hate lokitwt so bad

Happily living mentally in 2013 and even though I don't officially ship Loki with anyone I can ship him with anyone if I want because I don't need "canon" validation from actors and creators to enjoy my fave and actually like the character for the character rather than some weird parasocial thing I have going on with another character/actor as a self-insert by proxy.

#anti loki series #anti sylki #anti lokius #anti mobius #anti sylvie

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YES OH MY GOD ALL OF THIS!!! this really adds on to what i was trying to get at, and i appreciate it a lot. the concept of loki being brainwashed… it’s just so fanon. it’s a shitty perception of loki’s character, his motives, and the movie (avengers 2012) in general. loki is who he is for many reasons!

if you read the og post, PLEASE READ THIS TOO!!! it’s exactly what i was trying to get at. this theory is so frustrating to me

Debunking the “thanos brainwashed loki” theory (kind of)

DISCLAIMER: i don’t really have any problems with people taking this theory more lighthearted/just as an headcanon/au sort of thing, my issue is when it is accepted as fully canon, and words, meanings, and statements in interviews are completely twisted. people too often use it to mischaracterize loki, and disregard any of his motives, acts, and issues.

when i first got into the mcu and started interacting with the fandom, i too believed this theory when i first heard about it. until i thought about it a little more, and learned more about loki.

i’m aware that this is a little controversial to say since a lot of people truly take the theory as canon and have basically forever now… but in all honesty i REALLY don’t think it’s true. but let me just state that yes, loki definitely was persuaded/coerced into doing the things he did in avengers by thanos and his goons in order to retrieve the tesseract, that’s very canon as we can see in the scene of loki interacting with the other. loki fears thanos for a reason. thanos is a piece of shit and is shown to be a piece of shit to others including nebula and gamora, who were supposed to be his “daughters”. if he would torture his own “children”, why wouldn’t he torture and subject a stranger that he wanted to use to get the tesseract? so loki definitely was tortured.

i know there’s these two interviews, one with tom hiddleston (here) and the other with joss whedon that confirm loki went through a lot of horrible things between the ending of thor 1 and the beginning of avengers. they don’t necessarily give any specifics, just that it was really bad for him. please forgive me as i cannot find the joss whedon one right now, but i believe it was a video. the article with tom hiddleston which i’ve linked, is him saying “I think somewhere between the end of Thor and the beginning of The Avengers, Loki has been to the Marvel equivalent of the 7th circle of hell. At the end of Thor you see him let go. He lets go of the spear, he lets go of Asgard, and he lets go of the need of his brother and father’s affection and approval. He has bigger plans now.” and joss whedon pretty much said the same (in regards to loki going through horrible things between thor and avengers) from what i remember.

(but even with that being said, i’m going to focus more on canon rather than interviews.)

i’m not here to disprove that loki was tortured, i fully believe that he was and it makes sense considering thanos’ character, but i’m here to prove that he wasn’t FULLY brainwashed into doing what he did.

also trust me, i know that most of the movies loki has been in disregard a lot of the shit he’s been through, but i do feel that if he was truly forced into it, it would’ve been elaborated on. which i will elaborate on in this post.

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if anyone was brainwashed into committing the acts loki committed in avengers, they would be very distraught and traumatized when they eventually gained full consciousness and realized that they did those things. examples of this in the mcu being clint (who is literally in the same movie), as well as bucky who really was brainwashed by hydra into being an assassin, and is shown as being deeply traumatized when the brainwashing is undone. even if he didn’t commit those acts intentionally, and in his own will.

we can see in the dark world that loki was not really shown to be regretful about what he did. and honestly, i don’t think that was just them choosing not to show loki as being vulnerable, or them disregarding loki’s issues (per usual) because we actually get to see some of his true feelings, as well as him having a breakdown in the movie. he is willingly vulnerable. “now you see me, brother.”

he is shown to be deeply troubled, and vengeful about the possibility of him unintentionally leading algrim/kurse to frigga, the fact he was locked up and unable to be of any sort of help, as well as obviously frigga’s death in general. it was something that was truly done unintentionally by loki.

if loki had really unintentionally, and unconsciously committed the acts he did, he would be shown to be very distraught about it in the dark world, and it would’ve been elaborated on.

the approach the writers, as well as tom hiddleston wanted to take for loki’s character in the dark world was one that showed us as the audience, and as fans of loki more about him, as well as to see him at his most vulnerable, so why would they leave out his supposed trauma from brainwashing? because that’s not really how it happened.

they would have shown him be vulnerable about being brainwashed, and doing something unintentionally if it were something that really happened. since loki’s writing in the dark world was meant to “humanize” him. we’ve seen him at his most villainous in the last movie, so now let’s see him at his lowest in the one after that.

a major point of mine that disproves the theory is that although loki is shown to fear thanos, he’s not necessarily doing this whole thing JUST for him. he is also focused on ruling over earth, rather than just retrieving the tesseract.

if he was brainwashed, however, he would’ve got the tesseract to thanos without anything in return. thanos wouldn’t have had to bargain with loki, or offer earth/an army to him. he would have just mind controlled him with the scepter, the same way loki did with clint, and called it a day.

another point that disproves the theory is that if loki truly was mind controlled by the scepter, he would act almost robotic, and would be quite still, only doing things when told/motioned to the same way clint was when the scepter was first used on him in the beginning of the movie. (i’ve linked this scene further down in this post when i talk about the misconceptions of loki’s eyes being the same blue as the character’s who were mind controlled.) loki clearly says, and does whatever he wants in the movie. this would not really be the case if he were being mind controlled.

(also another example of loki realizing he had partially caused something unintentionally was thor’s banishment. he is shown to be quite nervous about the fact that thor got banished, although it did end up working in his favor later on in the movie.)

loki has shown many times, even before avengers when he is undeniably a villain, that he has no issues with hurting people to get what he wants. people who use the theory and accept it as canon often (i kind of hate this word, so forgive me for the lack of better words) infantilize and mischaracterize loki as being this character who is completely innocent, and helpless. and that he only became “bad” in avengers. meanwhile loki has always (always meaning since after/during the events of thor 1) been shown as a manipulative character with dark thoughts and violent tendencies. in thor 1, he committed genocide against the frost giants BEFORE he was under the influence of thanos or the scepter.

(let me state that i’m not saying loki is a bad person or a psychopath who just goes off hurting people left and right merely for the fun of it. i’ve elaborated on this, as well as loki’s motives in this post. but basically i’m saying that loki does everything he does with reason, and purpose. he is conniving, and calculated with his decisions. he doesn’t get satisfaction in hurting people, he gets satisfaction in getting closer to his goals.)

loki is already a “tragic victim” type character. you don’t need to erase that he’s capable of and willing to do wrong, and imply that those things were very out of character for him to prove that. characters can simultaneously do bad things out of their own will, while having a shitty past. not all victimized characters are completely innocent, and without flaws.

loki is never shown to have any love for midgard, or midgardians in general. he genuinely wanted to rule over them. in thor 1, loki says “i never wanted the throne, i only ever wanted to be your equal.” in thor 1. but in avengers, he says “i’ve grown, odinson, in my exile.” showing that he, and his motives have changed since then. he’s not the same person he was in thor 1, begging for his father’s love and recognition. not wanting a throne isn’t the case for him anymore. if he wasn’t able to prove himself to his own father, then midgardians were the next option.

in the dark world, loki no longer cares for odin’s approval. “he’s not my father!” “i didn’t do it for him.” as well as banishing/exiling him, and taking his throne. his focus shifting from odin’s approval as his own son in thor 1, to the approval of midgard as their king in avengers, to the approval of asgard as their king in the dark world, shows how loki’s character and his motives developed and changed with each movie. he realized that odin will never approve of him as his own son, let alone as king of asgard. thor 1 was just the start.

the reason this is relevant to disproving the theory, as well as the points i’m trying to make are:

1. the motives were already there. the will to do bad things, was already there before thanos and even the scepter’s influence/interference.

2. loki has changed between thor 1 and avengers, and he didn’t need to be brainwashed for this change to happen. he didn’t change and become “evil” because of what thanos put him through.

3. some people who take the theory as canon, believe that loki is fully good and would have never willingly hurt others to get what he wants, or to prove a point. which could not be further from the truth.

i know most of this won’t really make sense to people who already know these things, but my words (and this post in general) are more directed to/are about those who use this theory to try and make loki seem like he’s a character who only started doing bad things, due to being brainwashed. that he’s a character who would never do anything wrong against his own will. meanwhile, he’s exhibited “bad” behaviors willingly since the first movie he was in.

he’s a character with manipulative tendencies, and deep rooted resentment and jealousy towards those put above him. he is insecure, and is willing to do anything to prove himself worthy.

also a lot of the things and points that the people who believe this theory as canon use as proof are things that have been debunked. a point that they often use is that marvel has confirmed that loki was influenced by the scepter. but the only thing they confirm is that it heightened his anger and negative feelings. a big issue is that people hear “influenced” and misunderstand, taking it as a confirmation that loki was mind controlled, and not that the scepter was just amplifying his negative emotions that were already there, and have been since thor 1.

(link to the whole page.)

nowhere does it say that he was brainwashed, or mind controlled. influenced? yes, that’s what the scepter does.

another thing is people talking about his eyes supposedly being the same blue as clint’s, and erik selvig’s when they were under the influence of the scepter. when in reality… their proof of this is just lighting, edited photos, or them mistaking loki’s eyes as being green when they’re actually blue. tom hiddleston has blue eyes, and loki in avengers has the same blue eyes that he did in thor 1, before he even met thanos. his eyes aren’t green, and have never been. (also if loki was MIND CONTROLLED by the scepter, his eyes would be EXTREMELY blue, considering his natural eye color is blue.)

examples:

he has the same beautiful big blue eyes eye color. not the insanely bright blue that clint, or erik selvig had when they were mind controlled by the scepter.

more examples:

guys, if loki was being controlled by the scepter… his eyes would be the same color as theirs since the cgi was purposely used to make their eyes very unrealistically blue so that everyone would know they were being controlled. these two characters both have blue eyes. these pictures show them before being mind controlled/brainwashed, versus afterwards. also… his eyes would be that same blue throughout the movie. which they’re not… clint’s eyes remained that bright blue until the mind controlling was undone by natasha.

it won’t let me add any more pictures so forgive me, but trust me… it’s not the same blue. loki’s eyes do look a little brighter here so maybe i understand the misconception a little bit, but that’s due many factors that can be explained. one being the makeup put on tom hiddleston in this scene to make his skin lighter as well to make him appear exhausted. another factor being the lighting!! as someone with blue eyes, i know that basically anything can make them appear a different shade. but that even goes for other eye colors. that’s just how it works. another thing to mention is that tom hiddleston is naturally blonde and has warmer skin than this. the contrast of the darker hair and the makeup (ESPECIALLY the makeup used to make his under-eye area look dark, which is only used like that in this scene btw) will make his eyes look really bright especially when he already has bright blue eyes. here’s the scene.

another example of his eye color being this post of mine right here. he literally has the same eyes

we can see that the avengers, specifically the hulk, were influenced by the scepter as well. but their eyes weren’t bright blue, because they weren’t being brainwashed by it and instead their negative emotions that were already there were being heightened. this caused cap and tony to argue even more, bruce banner to become angry and emotional about being the hulk, everyone else to become more hostile, etc… these were pre existing issues. loki’s resentment towards thor as well as his need for approval were pre existing.

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anyway i will probably update this in the future if there’s anything i left out/to correct mistakes.

moral of the story is, loki was canonically tortured, subjected, and manipulated by thanos. but even with that being said, he was not necessarily brainwashed and he was definitely not brainwashed by the scepter. there is no canon proof of that. the scepter only heightened his negative emotions that were already there.

if loki really was brainwashed, don’t you think he would’ve just retrieved the tesseract for thanos without wanting to rule over earth? it would’ve been that simple. but since that isn’t true and loki was consciously and intentionally doing these things, he wanted something in return. neither clint, nor erik selvig wanted anything in return. they did whatever loki needed them to, unconsciously.

people tend to take the proof of his torture, and mistake it as proof of him being brainwashed for some reason. loki is not an innocent character who only started exhibiting “bad” behaviors in avengers. just because he’s done bad things doesn’t mean that you cannot love him, sympathize with him, or see him as the true victim in the story. he is the god of mischief. he is manipulative, and has deep rooted issues that causes him to do bad things in order to prove himself. you don’t need to dumb down his character, and motives in order to like him.

sorry if none of this makes any sense. i’m really bad at explaining my own thoughts and putting them into words, and i’m sure this could’ve been worded better. i just made this to clear things up as well as give my own take on the theory. don’t take it too seriously but also feel more than welcome to correct me on anything, as well as add your own take or anything else onto this.

thank you for reading!!

#loki #loki meta

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For all the mockery over the berries thing, I’m pretty sure they’re there to avoid showing blood while still suggesting bleeding: there’s almost no blood during any of the deaths or injuries in the movie, and that was intentional. The berries are a fig leaf on Loki’s self injury.

#i agree!! #poor loki #loki #the dark world #thor the dark world #tdw

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thinking about this once again AHHHHH

having many Normal, very usual thoughts about this gif of loki 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

#loki

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openly thirsting over loki but keeping it classy as i merely want to explore every aspect of his being. even the more scandalous parts…

#loki #loki mcu #rambling

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Wait this is so embarrassing to post but i was pondering so heavily last night… do we think loki got really needy between the events of avengers/tdw because he definitely went without any kind of intimacy or physical touch from another for years or do we think he handles it well? was he losing his mind in the dungeons of asgard (obviously but i mean specifically from the lack of intimacy), or was it just another tuesday for him… bc loki was definitely sleeping around in the events before thor 1. he was a prince and Thee god of mischief… like did he miss it, or did he grow (in his exile) to not crave it that much anymore?

does post avengers loki crave physical touch (in general) or has he grown to be repulsed by it? i wonder…

bc i was having so many thoughts of loki being sort of animalistic the first time he gets to experience intimacy with another post tdw.

(or even during the events of avengers 2012. which obviously would never happen since he was way too preoccupied, i just like thinking about it because avengers loki is so… Hehe.)

either the animalistic, closer by nine inch nails option, or he tries and is maybe… really repulsed by physical touch of any sort now.

personally, i think he craves it. all thirst aside and to be realistic… he would really want it, but i think he’s probably just too fucked up mentally from all the shit he went through to be able to bed anyone for a while.

he’s 1000 years old and has had sex COUNTLESS times but he definitely would like to experience intimacy with someone again. real intimacy and not just a one night stand.

or once again, he’s crazy about it (since we all know he’s not really normal about anything he desires) and he

*detailed sex scene where he holds a willing person down and just… does that for a while.*

i wish i could ask him. or be that very willing person

#suggestive #so sorry everyone… #loki #loki mcu #loki odinson #loki laufeyson #loki headcanon #loki hc #do i tag this as smut i don’t think so i’m being intellectual and classy about it… #but i will anyway.. #loki smut #loki smut hcs #thirsting over loki on main…

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#iron man 2 being like… one of if not the worst mcu movie ever #poll #marvel poll #mcu poll